EPTritoky, FF, Oats for kita
Obi, froggy and FF for lone
I think ritoky for Koshi
Kush got killed by Marley and played horribly.
Gonna evaluate them individually.
If we have a vig he's stupid for not killing Alakaslam.
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Vivax
22080 Posts
ritoky, FF, Oats for kita Obi, froggy and FF for lone I think ritoky for Koshi Kush got killed by Marley and played horribly. Gonna evaluate them individually. If we have a vig he's stupid for not killing Alakaslam. | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
Not sure what i think of the present opening tbh. It would have been great to give them to all the scummy people and forced them to open them/use them to our will :/ 2 biggest proponents of a ff lynch also died which is cool, especially as lm was in the shadows while doing it so didn't look like a high priority kill | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 12 2014 08:40 Holyflare wrote: I'm incredibly disappointed with the vigi if we do because he shot absolutely nobody that was a good shot. Not one of ff, ritoky etc died even though like 4 vets called them mafia -.- Not sure what i think of the present opening tbh. It would have been great to give them to all the scummy people and forced them to open them/use them to our will :/ 2 biggest proponents of a ff lynch also died which is cool, especially as lm was in the shadows while doing it so didn't look like a high priority kill ???? forget about me? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Vivax
22080 Posts
Also I'd like you to answer to kita's points post-his-death. I'll try to carry on what the dead guys couldn't. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
Its possible someone could have killed with the present last night but I dont think that is the case since I know I sent one to dandred. But I dont think that is the case. I think one present is in mafias hands. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On December 12 2014 08:40 Holyflare wrote: I'm incredibly disappointed with the vigi if we do because he shot absolutely nobody that was a good shot. Not one of ff, ritoky etc died even though like 4 vets called them mafia -.- Not sure what i think of the present opening tbh. It would have been great to give them to all the scummy people and forced them to open them/use them to our will :/ 2 biggest proponents of a ff lynch also died which is cool, especially as lm was in the shadows while doing it so didn't look like a high priority kill I thought the pros outweigh the cons and we should give all presents to vanilla towns like I did. Apparently no one else agreed as scummy people like ritoky ended up with them and the most obvious vt who wants to take a bullet for the team didnt get one. | ||
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GlowingBear
Brazil12446 Posts
Time to claim. | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
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Half the Sky
Germany9029 Posts
On December 12 2014 07:29 LightningStrike wrote: If anyone interested in comparing this game of Oatsmaster to his last town game here is his filter from the game that just ended http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471489-student-mafia-iv-new-newish-players-welcome?user=Oatsmaster I know this seem like a random post but earlier in the thread I said I would filter dive Oatsmaster and got him null possible town and wanted to see anyone else can compare that game to this game and see if they are similar in anyway. Lightning: Definitely more involved in Student Mafia IV (the game just ended, so can talk more on that now) than he was this game and he rolled VT in that one. That game, I recall him and Bats going at it, I think he was at it with Vivax earlier in this game, but most of the posts appear anti-Vivax until the Xatalos case which I believe he said he didn't agree with anyhow. Thing is, I'm sure Oats has played more than 2 games, so do you have any normal games to work with from a meta standpoint? Going to read all the filters of all who died if I can get any new insight, although some of the ones already cited I had scumlisted anyhow. | ||
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sicklucker
Canada16987 Posts
On December 12 2014 08:58 GlowingBear wrote: Who was masoned with kita? Time to claim. Like I thought that was ritokys role because only another mason would give this man a present.. Why should they claim tho... Like do you want mafia to kill poor santa? | ||
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ritoky
United States6851 Posts
On December 12 2014 08:44 Vivax wrote: Ritoky what about your present. Also I'd like you to answer to kita's points post-his-death. I'll try to carry on what the dead guys couldn't. On December 12 2014 07:59 kitaman27 wrote: ritoky
1) I attacked LS because he made pure meta reads and they were crap. This post lacks the context of that being in the very first hours of the game. On day 1 I am a pretty hard tunneler on people who do things I think are strange or make excessively bad reads. I felt his reads were dumpster level at the time so I went on them. He came back and started answering people's questions in a town way. Someone asked me how it was town and I told them the same thing I will tell you, he responded directly and only giving what he was asked. That is very townie to me, especially for a new player. Normally mafia try to change the topic or they add too many qualifiers or they give way more than was asked. He didn't, so I started reading him town. 2) First I need to clean this up, since the start of the game up until the night phase I had only called two people mafia: LS and ff. Yet the moment I get a town read, come out of the tunnel on LS and switch to ff; people call me bloodthirsty. I am just moving to my next scum read and pressuring. Kita says that my initial read doesn't matter to him, well I would say that he doesn't do a good job of finding scum on D1 then. I think that when someone believes a read enough to sheep it word for word the very lowest level of trust they should have in that person is leaning town. He had a null read on me after basically quoting my read 5 posts earlier, and then tried to dumb tell it away by saying he didn't read my post. Not town at all. 3) I admittedly have a shit read on bunnies, and I would agree with him that I was mostly outside of that conversation. I did however say: "There's a nearly 0 amount of people defending bunnies, so she is probably town" about 12 hrs into the day. And I did clarify that the stuff that....I don't remember who, can go look...was pushing about her vote on me and it having no real reason was a crap part of the case since it was primarily predicated on our friendship/relationship in mafia. 4) I still want to lynch ff. What about my present? Do you want me to claim which one I opened? If so, why? | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On December 12 2014 08:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Who shoots Damdred/LM over Vivax/Holyflare? Mafia think: Damdred 1. Calls The_Templar out on RNG but scums we should not follow. I don't know how to check the post ID but the numbers seems to work. Lands KeslierSC. Yes, follow this naughty train. 2. Challanges GrowingBear. GrowingBear swipes him away with meta attacks. The scum are ok with this. 3. You believe that he wouldn't NK/lynch Sicklucker or KelsierSC?? Easy to scum, but very few claimed to naughty. LoneMeow 1. Would lynch Sicklucker. 2. Challenges The_Templar. 3. I've seen 3 posts that suggested we should have bailed from the wagon. One by someone who is in a iron bird above, another who was attacked and a weak off hours wagon developed, and LoneMeow who was elavating. Vivax and Holy Flare - They didn't start the wagon, but naughty sexy play SCAMFUSED and it took very little steering to help them lead the way and mafia was able to stand back. They did the work and had the muscle. Vivax with a little steerage introduced more scamfusion. Scum is afraid to Nice Holy Flare not for his current game actions but his reputation. SCUM. There are only 2 Nice in this game. There is no elevator, we need to STEP THE FUCK UP. | ||
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On December 12 2014 08:40 Vivax wrote: If we have a vig he's stupid for not killing Alakaslam. Fucking SCUM. READ HIS POSTS. | ||
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Vivax
22080 Posts
No, thank you, I have better means of wasting my time. What's so special in there? | ||
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LightningStrike
United States14277 Posts
On December 12 2014 09:00 Half the Sky wrote: Lightning: Definitely more involved in Student Mafia IV (the game just ended, so can talk more on that now) than he was this game and he rolled VT in that one. That game, I recall him and Bats going at it, I think he was at it with Vivax earlier in this game, but most of the posts appear anti-Vivax until the Xatalos case which I believe he said he didn't agree with anyhow. Thing is, I'm sure Oats has played more than 2 games, so do you have any normal games to work with from a meta standpoint? Going to read all the filters of all who died if I can get any new insight, although some of the ones already cited I had scumlisted anyhow. I will look into his town normal games and give you his filter from those town games so we get a bigger size to compare and contrast. | ||
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Trfel
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
On December 12 2014 09:11 Trfel wrote: I still don't see very much reason to lynch Fecalfeast. Yes, his play hasn't been amazing yet, and I disagree with many of his reads, but I can still see where he is coming from. I would rather give him some more time before looking back at that lynch. Did you read what lonemeow/kita/me wrote about him? | ||
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Holyflare
United Kingdom30775 Posts
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Tubesock
United States2726 Posts
On December 12 2014 08:22 GlowingBear wrote: It's not WIFOM, rit. It's just looking through perspectives. I can't understand the psychology of a townie who decides to claim he is going to open the present he received. You don't die night one, then BAM! You obviously got a skill and will be killed/roleblocked night2 if you're town. I can never see town doing that. On December 12 2014 08:22 sicklucker wrote: Shit this is horrible I can confirm I sent dandred a present and thats probably why hes dead.. On December 12 2014 08:23 sicklucker wrote: Can you claim then? My whole plan today was to kill you if mafia didnt because you made it so blatantly obvious. Naughty boys. Still reading Sicklucker Nice? On December 10 2014 01:31 GlowingBear wrote: Lian, SL is town. Let him alone. | ||
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