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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 11 2014 22:37 GMT
#1581
On December 12 2014 07:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I've decided that LoneMeow is mafia.

With the caveat that he might not be.

Insightful as ever.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 11 2014 22:38 GMT
#1582
I'll talk about it if I don't die.

Consider it if I do, though.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 11 2014 22:39 GMT
#1583
(But seriously, he's like 100% mafia and should die super hard.)
Retired.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 11 2014 22:55 GMT
#1584
On December 12 2014 05:47 ritoky wrote:
to whomever gave me this present, gonna open it. yolo, wish me luck.


Ritoky my 3rd 100% Nice. Too bad his "present" kills. This isn't that kind of present. Another Nice dies but it wont be FecalFeast, LightningStrike, nor I. We are too important for the Naughty Lynch.

GlowingBear bolds Damdred's meta lie, then sights his previous Arnold role and again sights previous game "Arnie's Got A Gun?". Sicklucker, the naughty friend later reveals he thinks he knows this Arnold.

Both GlowingBear and Sicklucker and NOW The_Templar appear!! Three Naughties and two lurking in the shadows.

Kushm4ster needs to Go West in his Holiday Lear. Somehow won't.

ALPA protects me ssson.

+ Show Spoiler +
[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 04:45 GlowingBear wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 04:24 Damdred wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 03:54 Xatalos wrote:
[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 02:45 Damdred wrote:


People i won't listen about:
Damdred, SL, Templars, HF, Koshi, RS, Oats, probably LS, kush



[QUOTE]On December 10 2014 03:06 Damdred wrote:
Seriously we should lynch GB who's whole d1 policy is to lynch lurkers not ignore them completely and fo after active people this is what he did in the one hour titanic mafia as scum[/QUOTE]

Has he not played similarly as town? His first vote in the Guilty game was on a lurker. Granted, he then went after me and rayn. But I don't see how GB is top scum from that meta point.

On another note, I don't think we should lynch LS today. Well, he already basically claimed to have a role.

I guess 27ninjabunnies isn't a bad lynch at this rate. It's hard to find anything towny about her other than the easy wagon.

Tubesock: could you explain further HTS leaning town / null? I got the impression from your post that HTS was looking bad (or null at best) and that 27ninjabunnies was just worse.[/QUOTE]


[QUOTE]Well Xatalos you are just so overtly town I have to be suspicious of you right now its only the right answer. Besides that I figured that would be your response since we have post restrictions. You did ignore my next post where I said not to lynch you for today though.

The meta on GB isn't that bad, ever since avocado mafia its something gb has followed strictly as town to the point of getting scum read for it in some situations and as mafia going against the lurker lynch to pursue higher profile people. It is not a guaranteed scum to be sure but I think its a good chance at this point.[/QUOTE]

[quote]The bolded is you lying. If you really believe it, you're forcing a read based on only one scum game (Arnold).
I've went to high profile people very recently as town (against marv day1 on that game I forgot the name)[/QUOTE]
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 11 2014 22:55 GMT
#1585
I will clean up the quote in the spoiler later.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 11 2014 22:59 GMT
#1586
Here are my reads after night one. I usually take until day three or four to get a good grasp of what is going on in larger games so I'm sure a bunch of these will change with more information.

Leaning Mafia:

Fecalfeast
  • LoneMeow's case regarding how he votes for bunnies, unvotes her when when he interprets her post as a roleclaim, and then ignores her for a significant period of time once she states that it wasn't a claim.
  • Only provides of a list of reads when prompted. The validity of his reads comes into question when he gives a town read to tube for researching past games, yet doesn't take this into account with his scum read on LS.
  • He makes a post by post response on Templar, without coming to a conclusion. He doesn't show any interest in getting templar lynched until he is prompted.
  • He claims that his vote on ritoky was an attempt to get an angry reaction, but there was no followup to his plan.
  • Shows very little interest in scum hunting. Admits to not reading the thread and suggests a vig shot on himself.

Oatsmaster
  • The too scummy to be scum defense of bunnies that put him on the right side of the lynch for most of the day was pretty sketchy. He adds in a comment at the end that he isn't too bothered by the bunnies lynch, which almost makes me think that he didn't want to be seen as someone with too much knowledge.
  • When he has to move off Vivax based on the effort he was putting in, he swaps to frog without an explanation. The single question about frog's null reads comes off as an attempt to make it sound like he is interested in his scum suspect, rather than something he was going to follow up with.

ritoky
  • I feel like ritoky is picking on things that could be constructed as being scummy, but don't necessarily make a player mafia.
  • His first attack on LS is a relatively long post about him having two town reads that happen to be voting for each other. That kind of stuff happens, I don't see why it makes him scummy. He calls out the sicklucker as being a lie, but I think that comes down to semantics more than something he is maliciously doing. Attacking LS for the meta reads is okay, but doesn't seem as convincing to me as is did to him. He then drops his scum read on LS after he gives a town read on ritoky. I don't see why that should change his mind, it seems more like an excuse to move over to fecal.
  • His initial case on fecal seems to come down to fecal agreeing with ritoky on a subject matter and then giving a Null read on ritoky. This doesn't matter all that much in my view. He exaggerates the defense in passing made by fecal as giving a free pass for the day.
  • With bunnies really dominating discussion on day one, he mostly ignores her. I know he claims to struggle reading her, but there were enough things he could still comment about.
  • I know that listing both Fecal and ritoky as scum reads is a bit strange considering their interactions with each other. I haven't decided if one being scum makes the other town or if there is potentially some scum to scum interactions going on here.





NULL:

Koshi
  • Kinda putting him off for now. My biggest concern would be how focused he was on a single player.
  • From a pure setup speculation angle, I would guess that the present distribution is two town and one mafia. His post about trying to confirm townies rubbed me the wrong way as something potentially mafia would say to try to look good knowing that there may not be a third townie to claim. I'll admit this one isn't very logically sound.


ObiWanShinobi
  • Spooked by the sheer amount of buddying that he is doing. I think we're up to four times.
  • I'm not really sure what made him reconsider his push for the Xat lynch. He opposes the bunnies lynch without giving a strong reason, but says he is struggling to find an alternative. I would have thought Xat would be his alternative.


The_Templar
  • No longer amuses me.


GlowingBear
  • Seems to be struggling with time so I'll likely base my read off of day two.
  • lol not really sure what to think about a guy who says that he is displaying "a lot of mafia traits"
  • My biggest worry would be how little he did to impact the day one lynch. He claims to oppose the bunnies lynch, but doesn't make a strong case why we should move off her or a strong case why we should move to an alternative.





To be continued:
I've run out of time and need to get this post in before the deadline. I don't want to put them down as null since I may develop a town/mafia read after looking closer at their filters. If I survive the night, I'll finish up with these during day two.

Tubesock
KelsierSC
Xatalos
liancourt
batsnacks
Half the Sky
froggynoddy
Alakaslam




Leaning Town:

Not really going to spend time justifying any of these. Some of these reads are stronger than others.

Damdred
LoneMeow
LightningStrike
sicklucker
Holyflare
Vivax
rsoultin
Trfel
(lol I should probably be putting him under NULL)




Why did you sign up for this game category:

kushm4sta
  • Congrats you can get away with doing absolutely nothing on day one. Why are you wasting our time by taking up a slot in this game? Do you get a thrill out of being mildly annoying to everyone else? I think you'd make a perfect house fly.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 11 2014 23:02 GMT
#1587
Why is LM town?
Retired.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 11 2014 23:03 GMT
#1588
No posting, daypost imminent
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 11 2014 23:03 GMT
#1589
On December 12 2014 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:
Trfel (lol I should probably be putting him under NULL)


On December 12 2014 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:
kushm4sta
  • Congrats you can get away with doing absolutely nothing on day one. Why are you wasting our time by taking up a slot in this game? Do you get a thrill out of being mildly annoying to everyone else? I think you'd make a perfect house fly.


wot
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-11 23:06:52
December 11 2014 23:06 GMT
#1590
Day 2



Oh wait... that's not snow, that's corpses...

LoneMeow the Carol Singer is dead
kushm4sta the Scrooge is dead
Damdred the Joyful Child is dead
Koshi the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead
Kitaman27 the Disgruntled Retail Worker is dead





It is now Day 2. Night comes in . Good Luck
Computer says mafia
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 11 2014 23:07 GMT
#1591
ALERT!!! ALERT!!!

HF ISN'T DEAD NIGHT1
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 11 2014 23:09 GMT
#1592
I'm gonna read this thread now. And I'm going to hammer mafai.

Btw, lynch ritoky. I gave him the present. But he claimed that he got the present at night, not caring for being roleblocked. Like, lol.
I'm adorable.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 11 2014 23:10 GMT
#1593
##vote: ritoky
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
December 11 2014 23:12 GMT
#1594
Who shoots Damdred/LM over Vivax/Holyflare?
Retired.
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 11 2014 23:12 GMT
#1595
On December 12 2014 08:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm gonna read this thread now. And I'm going to hammer mafai.

Btw, lynch ritoky. I gave him the present. But he claimed that he got the present at night, not caring for being roleblocked. Like, lol.


????? I got it at the change of phase, and claimed when I decided I was gonna open it????

what are you smoking? you should know that presents change hands at the end of day phase, it is both in the rules and i confirmed it with the mod lol.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
December 11 2014 23:14 GMT
#1596

More gift giving clarifications:

Opening a gift cannot be roleblocked. However if the gift has an action that can be acted upon the next night (2 out of 3 do) then roleblocking that night will cancel the action, and it is lost forever.

All vigilante type roles lose bullets if they attempt to shoot, no matter if they succeed or not.
Computer says mafia
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 11 2014 23:14 GMT
#1597
Kush
Ritoky
HF

probable scum team. Posting for cred.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 11 2014 23:16 GMT
#1598
On December 12 2014 08:14 batsnacks wrote:
Kush
Ritoky
HF

probable scum team. Posting for cred.


Kush flipped Scrooge...
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 11 2014 23:17 GMT
#1599
On December 12 2014 08:12 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 12 2014 08:09 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm gonna read this thread now. And I'm going to hammer mafai.

Btw, lynch ritoky. I gave him the present. But he claimed that he got the present at night, not caring for being roleblocked. Like, lol.


????? I got it at the change of phase, and claimed when I decided I was gonna open it????

what are you smoking? you should know that presents change hands at the end of day phase, it is both in the rules and i confirmed it with the mod lol.


The ability you earn can be roleblocked. I just thought you could use it night one instead of using it night 2.

It doesn't matter anyway, you just revealed to mafia that you have a role now, which makes no sense for a townie.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 11 2014 23:17 GMT
#1600
It was obviously the vigi who shot kush btw.
Just saying.
I'm adorable.
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