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On December 14 2014 05:42 Tubesock wrote:
I WILL GLADLY GO TO ANY OF MY MARKS. i DON'T CARE WHICH. Slam did say he was leaving. I KNOW there are some of you that know he is town. If you wagon off HF or me, and think I'm possibly correct, then the wagon has to be big enough to account for him not switching.
What's your read on FF? He's the biggest alternative wagon to you.
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On December 14 2014 05:45 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 05:44 batsnacks wrote:
I can't vote HF if a FF lynch is possible. Dont vote hf vote kel
Why do you even want to lynch KSC?
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On December 14 2014 05:45 Alakaslam wrote:
Not necessarily. I just finished my shower.
I am set to leave but the wedding does not start for an hour and 15. But it is...
... Bad manners to be poring over your phone at a wedding.
Gogo FF
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On December 14 2014 05:47 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 05:41 Xatalos wrote:On December 14 2014 05:40 liancourt wrote:
Stop throwing votes and vote kel KSC doesn't even have many votes and besides there are far better lynch candidates. This is such a bad reason. If u vote kel there will be enough votes
You specifically said that votes would be wasted on other wagons when he didn't even have many votes (1 or 2).
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Why is LS even scummy Tube?
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On December 14 2014 06:00 Tubesock wrote:You believe FF is mafia more so than Lightningstrike? They are each basically interchangeable for me.
Well then lynch FF. I think LS's claim is decently believable.
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GB: It's hard to reread stuff on my phone, but I think your case is pretty heavy on meta and assumptions. I don't think its particularly scummy to focus on main scumreads rather than some people you mentioned once in a listpost. How do you know that HF's read on Froggy changed without reason? He might have just not reasoned every change of opinion in his filter. I didn't really get your last point. Overall not great reasons to lynch him.
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On December 14 2014 06:17 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 06:13 Xatalos wrote:
GB: It's hard to reread stuff on my phone, but I think your case is pretty heavy on meta and assumptions. I don't think its particularly scummy to focus on main scumreads rather than some people you mentioned once in a listpost. How do you know that HF's read on Froggy changed without reason? He might have just not reasoned every change of opinion in his filter. I didn't really get your last point. Overall not great reasons to lynch him. that's not the point. The point is: he says people are looking terrible but makes no attempt to discover their alignments. Simple as this. He couldn't change his read on froggy noddy - who someone assumed hasn't posted much - like that. There was no particular change of playstyle and he was scumreading him since the entrance. A scumread that was reinforced by a wasted vote. This kind of inconsistency isn't townie.
Without reading through HF's filter (really can't do that now), I'd say that it isn't necessarily scummy to change your read without particular new information. You might just reread his filter, rethink stuff... And it's not like he flip-flopped within a small time period from your explanation. A lot can change during the game.
Your other point is basically assuming that town HF would be more observant/persistent with stuff he notices? Dunno. I don't think I've pressured every single player I've mentioned either.
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On December 14 2014 06:44 rsoultin wrote:
@Xata
Dude, you haven't wanted to lynch KSC all game. Trfel brought some good points against him. Do you have comments? Or a defense for KSC? Cause if not he's likely to be lynched.
I'll be honest, you're the sole reason I haven't switched over to him already.
Damn I can't really focus well right now. Anyways I looked at the case briefly earlier and I think KSC explained the last point decently during N1. I'll look at it again as soon as I can.
I can lynch KSC over HF/SL though if it comes down to it.
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On December 14 2014 07:05 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2014 06:59 Xatalos wrote:On December 14 2014 06:44 rsoultin wrote:
@Xata
Dude, you haven't wanted to lynch KSC all game. Trfel brought some good points against him. Do you have comments? Or a defense for KSC? Cause if not he's likely to be lynched.
I'll be honest, you're the sole reason I haven't switched over to him already. Damn I can't really focus well right now. Anyways I looked at the case briefly earlier and I think KSC explained the last point decently during N1. I'll look at it again as soon as I can. I can lynch KSC over HF/SL though if it comes down to it. you said earlier why we should vote kel and said that kel didnt have enough votes. now we have enough votes. Why aren't you voting him??? he is a contender for lynch and yet you are still voting for ff
When did I ever push KSC to be lynched? It was the opposite. I'll go look at the case now though
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Well, I can see the appeal in that KSC case. Not sure about the ritoky point on its own since KSC explained that decently I think, but it seems like there's a larger theme of weird read changes during the game for him. It lends credibility to the idea that he's making stuff up. Forgetting several things and making a meta scumread without apparently knowing much about that particular meta. I think it's a decent lynch at least compared to some like HF/SL (and perhaps Tube too). It should also be somewhat telling of FF's alignment so it's not too bad.
##Unvote
##Vote KelsierSC
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On December 14 2014 07:30 KelsierSC wrote:
I'm really kind of out of it so dont know what the slam dunk case on me is. I adnit my d2 has been useless butninhave had to spend two nights in hospital.
i mean i made a lot of good town reads and made my case on ff d1 , pretty strong case. I had a logical progression to ny vote. For nb i analysed her play very strongly end of d1, my concern with lynching het was to do with her role claim, ibdidbt want to lynch a power rile, looking at the game from. Different perspectives is a towny action not scummy.
so i skimmed some stuff, i like gb he is town but just vote whatever my town circle votes.
dam,hf,bats kosh,kit,tenplar.xat are the town leaders invite what vou vote for!!
soulton is town too
where is the vote list?
Do you have other reasons for preferring FF lynch over you besides associative reasons?
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On December 14 2014 07:39 KelsierSC wrote:
Xat i don't wna get lynched IM town my ff read is good in my filter, not just introspective. Isbhe a role claim though indidny see it
What does this even mean?
Yeah I guess this lynch can do compared to many of the other options. It's also decently informative especially considering Trfel and FF.
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I'll be back in 20(?) mins. Just lynch KSC. His flip will be plenty informative and it's a good amount more likely scum than HF.
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Shenanigans succeed sometimes :D
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On December 14 2014 07:49 marvellosity wrote:
Counting something
KelsierSC (8): Alakaslam, liancourt, Tubesock, Tubesock, rsoultin, Tubesock, Fecalfeast, Alakaslam, Trfel, Tubesock, Fecalfeast, Half the Sky, rsoultin, ritoky, Xatalos, ObiwanShinobi
liancourt (0): GlowingBear
GlowingBear (0): Tubesock, rsoultin, Holyflare
Tubesock (2): sicklucker, The_Templar, Fecalfeast, froggynoddy, Xatalos, Half the Sky, LightningStrike
ritoky (0): Holyflare, rsoultin, Lightning Strike, Half the Sky
froggynoddy (0): Oatsmaster
Half the Sky (0): batsnacks
Holyflare (7): GlowingBear, Fecalfeast, batsnacks, Tubesock, Alakaslam, Tubesock, Fecalfeast, The_Templar, sicklucker, Vivax, Fecalfeast, Trfel
Fecalfeast (2): Alakaslam, Vivax, Holyflare, KelsierSC, Vivax, Xatalos, Half the Sky, rsoultin, Alakaslam, Tubesock
Oatsmaster (0): Vivax
Vivax (1): Oatsmaster
sicklucker (0): Tubesock
Trfel (1): rsoultin
Currently KelsierSC is set to be lynched. 11m until deadline.
Looking at the votecount I'm starting to think Oats might be a decent target for the shot. He just absolutely wasted his vote... He didn't care enough to even vote for his scumread (Froggy). It would have also been wasted, of course, but it's even worse that he didn't manage to vote his scumread during the day.
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On December 14 2014 08:28 sicklucker wrote:
I SAID IF YOU THINK YOUR GOING TO DIE TONIGHT AND YOU HAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION SAY THAT INFORMATION RIGHT BEFORE TOMORROW STARTS. HINT HINT i DONT WANT ARE SANTAS ROLECHECKS TO BE WASTED IF ITS SOMEONE LIKE XATA WHO DIES.
Yeah a lot of people died last night so the same might repeat here. Claim any gathered info at the deadline if you have something important and you think you might die.
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On December 13 2014 17:58 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On December 13 2014 16:56 Trfel wrote:Thanks rsoultin. I'll take a look. I had a pretty good idea though. One more thing I found interesting about the Oatsmaster argument. On December 13 2014 16:10 Oatsmaster wrote:On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote:On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote:
How is nk analysis even relevant?
Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have.
Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game.
Come on Vivax/hf other bad people.
This post looks so mafia to me right now. Do I care? no. Trefel or Froggy is it today. Actually do I prefer trefel? Yes yes i do. ##unvote
##vote Trefel Last game (Student Mafia IV), Oatsmaster attacked batsnacks early on for advocating a policy lynch on kusmh4sta. This game, in the middle of discussion, Oatsmaster ignores it and advises what is basically a policy lynch instead. I'd definitely like to know why your views on policy lynches have changed, Oatsmaster. Because you clearly aren't a policy lynch? My views haven't changed, you are scum because you've shown none of the previous interest in the game. Vivax, is your best argument, look what this dead dude said?? It doesn't even look like you seriously looked through my filter. And kitas first point is speculation and bad. Second point is bad too, why don't I just go on the nb lynch rather than suggesting my own lynch and making a 'weak' effort to question someone else? Btw, froggy didn't respond to the question I asked. I really rethinking my read on you. It really rubs me the wrong way when you use flipped townies to justify your read.
Well I guess this *might* mean Oats scumreading him..... It's still a very weak/wasted vote. Whatever. Oats can come back to the thread and redeem himself if he doesn't want to eat a bullet.
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On December 14 2014 18:21 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +
Out of the current wagons, I think the KSC wagon is the worst. He's made several plays that are unlikely to come from scum (baiting reactions by making himself look bad, suggesting delaying the 27nb lynch when he's next in line himself, etc.) and his posts during N1 seemed fine. The wagon on him also looks all but inspiring (all the voters are sketchy or at best somewhat nullish players).
Show nested quote +
Damn I can't really focus well right now. Anyways I looked at the case briefly earlier and I think KSC explained the last point decently during N1. I'll look at it again as soon as I can.
I can lynch KSC over HF/SL though if it comes down to it.
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Well, I can see the appeal in that KSC case. Not sure about the ritoky point on its own since KSC explained that decently I think, but it seems like there's a larger theme of weird read changes during the game for him. It lends credibility to the idea that he's making stuff up. Forgetting several things and making a meta scumread without apparently knowing much about that particular meta. I think it's a decent lynch at least compared to some like HF/SL (and perhaps Tube too). It should also be somewhat telling of FF's alignment so it's not too bad.
I mean, look at this. The guy he first calls the worst wagon, is suddenly someone "he can lynch" before he even reviewed the KSC case.
Vivax, he was a worse lynch than ritoky or Tube, not worse than HF. Besides, by the end of D2, ritoky seemed better (considering the present analysis) and Tube looked better (his frantic deadline posting). Also I only said that I'd lynch KSC over HF before reading the case fully... Which had been my stance all along. You should really put a bit more effort in your arguments.
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