TL Mafia LXIX: Carol Of The Bells - Page 54

On December 10 2014 09:30 Half the Sky wrote:


Rasputin = rsoultin

He was called that in our last game.

On December 10 2014 09:23 kitaman27 wrote:






It seems like the reasoning that leads you to believe tube is probably town isn't taken into account when evaluating LS. Why does it apply in one case, but not the other?

On December 10 2014 09:22 Fecalfeast wrote:

Aww I thought you'd get more upset at him calling you sexist. I want more drama.

Guess I have to start it myself. Ritoky is tunneling me because I am ezpz push. I played this exact way in MSPAINT ritoky, except I think I was even more useless there. If ritoky gets his wish and everyone hops on the fecalfeast train all he has to say after I flip town is "omg he played so bad you can't blame me for thinking he's scum" seems like a good mafia play to me


##vote ritoky

On December 10 2014 09:27 Half the Sky wrote:
FF: Looked through your reads and I think you are overseeing why Rasputin has made the points he has on people. You have to also consider why people aren't fighting back. Bats was called out by multiple people, not just Rasputin. As for his push on OWS, he's not posted anything coherent, mostly random things, which is similar to why you had cited Liancourt: random posting. So if you are consistent, there should be nothing wrong with Rasputin pushing OWS.

And regarding meta being anti-town or pro-town, I don't think meta itself is the problem but rather the interpretation of someone else's meta people don't trust. Rasputin is not the only one who disregards meta, LoneMeow has told a few people to disregard meta in their arguments. On the other side of the fence, you have Damdred, LS, etc, using meta to justify some of their arguments. I don't think the use of meta is necessarily alignment indicative, as I've seen it in Student Mafia being used and mis-used for and against people.

On December 09 2014 11:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Nobody, really. Just sicklucker.

I just don't get the feeling that he's the same kind of over-the-top contributor he is as town. The last game I played with him, his desire to contribute was so unbelievably strong that he wound up posting a ton of shit that incriminated himself for the sake of trying to help town.

Instead, we get this game, where he decides to talk about nonsense and fluff in a game centered around posting restrictions. He's posting just to post, when his modus operandi as town is to contribute until his heart stops.

Normally he's incredibly productive and comes up with tons of fresh ideas and perspective. I'm not getting any of that here. Do not like.

On December 09 2014 11:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Scum: sicklucker
sicklucker doesn't seem like he normal town self for this type of game with the post limit and he just throwing a lot of fluff more than anything trying to get the limit early

On December 09 2014 22:11 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker been posting a lot more fluff than any games I played with him and he normally do some funky shenanigans to force people to make early reads awkward at best.

On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.

On December 09 2014 22:39 LightningStrike wrote:

I did but it doesn't make sense though the way he acting though and when I played with him he was Vanilla town in the games I played with him when he had these weird shenanigans but I not seeing this game. This doesn't seem be the sicklucker I know.

On December 09 2014 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I not buying sicklucker claim because he doesn't seem to be himself on making weird shenanigans early in the game which he does when he was Vanilla Town.

On December 10 2014 04:39 froggynoddy wrote:
Why do you keep saying this is doublespeak? This is not double speak fella. I think you should explain why you seem to think so as I don't think I can explain myself any better than I already have.

On another note I don't like lists (apart from Santa's of course). Way too easy to appear town without actually doing anything to benefit town.

FOS:
Ninja (i.e. defends me without really defending - adds a list - no other content or justification)
and possibly Templar (list, does no justify reads, everything posted so far is just description of other people's reads - fluff - or overreaction)

Still reading...

On December 10 2014 09:34 KelsierSC wrote:
So i need to sleep and conserve posts.

I'm going to finish off my town circle tomorrow morning and then lynch into whoever is left.

I'm going to add templar to my town circle, initially he was nl for his story, but his posts did have reads and i really like his reentry post, i agree with all his reads, he doesn't like gb, doesn't like ls, on my phone can't remember 3rd read...maybe it was nb. Ah i knew i liked it though.

its interesting 2 people , one after the other, say my play is one liners or fluffy but ive actually made plays and given substantial reads rather than just spam inane bs in spoiler tags.

On December 10 2014 09:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, I have only 33 posts made, so I'm good for now

WOOT
MORE DEFENSE COMING UP!

Okay, So I think I'm just going to go through filters. So it seems there is a ritoky/FF omgus voting between them going on?

I see someone said ritoky has a case on FF, but FF do you have a case on Ritoky anywhere?

Also, as for LS, where is your mind with that Slam. You said he hasn't done anything townie, but has he done anything scumm in your eyes?

Also @Slam- my bf does want to start playing mafia. Lol, but I think Ima introduce him to video mafia first.... Ya'll slaughter people here in forum. haha

On December 10 2014 09:41 Half the Sky wrote:


27NB, he's a relatively new player, played in the last Student Mafia game with him (disclaimer: game is still in progress) and he's doing here what he's done last time - poke holes, ask questions, although I notice this go, he has a more edgy tone than he did last game, but you can still understand what he's driving at and why he's picking people/points out. As far as I can tell, a solid town read for me.

On December 10 2014 09:42 LightningStrike wrote:

I was scum with Slam on Student and he was Scum on Titanic he not being as useless as those two games as he did tried to start a discussion after a bit of fluff posts and he tried to steer people in the right direction although he does think I'm scum but everyone got their opinions.
@bats I tried to frame you in that game to save my scum team and I not sheeping anyone in this game although yes my post might of looked like OWS but I guess it just our posting style are similar and it was FF post about sicklucker got me to look at sicklucker although I misread his shenanigans this game and thought he was scum but now I think he is town.

On December 10 2014 09:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Oh, that question was directed toward Slam as to why he thought you were scummy!

But thanks for answering. This helps with a read on you!

On December 10 2014 09:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Okay, I reread this like 3 times and had trouble understanding your last paragraph, so I'll try and answer the best way I can.
I don't have scum on Froggy. I had an iffy. Iffy for me does not mean that he is scum. It's more of a null. The scum list for me would be the "People I need to look at". When I make reads, I put them under categories that'll best explain where my mind was at at that moment. I realize, prob doesnt work for other people reading.

On December 09 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
He'll be here in five minutes so I'll leave you with this:

Templar Town
Damdred Town
Slam semitownie

Those I need to look more at:
HF
Vivax
Kelsier

Iffy:
Froggy
Kita (I expected more than just hey)
Fecal

I don't really like how two people jumped to defend me. That always makes me skeptical. Don't get me wrong, thank you for that, because it's absolutely true and makes sense.

HF is making something out of nothing. Idk if it's reaction testing? Or backlash for me calling him out on his post.

tbh, I'm not counting how many posts I make. I type a lot, I ask a lot of questions. If I get near my cap, well then, atleast I know I made a difference in the beginning of the day, instead of arguing later.

Have fun everyone, and see you tomorrow!

On December 09 2014 08:50 27ninjabunnies wrote:


Ummm no, In every game I have played, people always first attack the guy who talks about policy lynching and lurkers, whether doing it is bad or good. The same thing is happening this game. I don't think it is alignment indicative for froggy. I would need him to talk more to get a read. I'm just saying that there's no sense in attacking someone for something that seems "scummy" when it isn't. It seems off to everyone else, which is why people are targeting him, you get what I'm saying?

On December 09 2014 08:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:


I'm not brushing it off, I' trying to look at it objectively. I think what he said makes sense. A. I know what he said. I said he was talking about policy lynching and lurkers. I never specifically said what he thought about it.

I don't think it's scummy. I think people are making something scummy out of nothing.

Thanks for the vote I knew it was to happen eventually, but I figured Ritoky would be the first to do it!

And I will enjoy my date Food and alcohol. what's better?

On December 10 2014 08:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Vivax- after reading through his filter seems really town to me. Actually probably one of my top towns at the moment.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=40#791

This post explain why. I think I've explained why I put Froggy as iffy, vivax, at that time. What do you think? Also, In that post you mention you don't like Koshi, or more so he's freaking you out. Can you go a little bit more into Koshi, and what kind of read you've made on him since that post?

On December 10 2014 07:02 kitaman27 wrote:


Well if you can't keep up with the thread, can you read and give reads on individual filters that shouldn't be more than a few pages long? Really not sure who your scum reads are at all.

If you want individual names, pick some people from rsoultin, froggy, Obi, batsnacks, ritoky, LoneMeow, Tube?

On December 10 2014 09:48 Tubesock wrote:
Kelsier, I'll get back to you. Technically, I said for lack of better word it was flirting. Meaning it's something less but I fully believe that if you thought 27NB had a penis you would not have continued those pointless posts towards her. This judgement has nothing to do with maturity.



I took your iffy as scum. Your list had 3 categories. So, at the time you're saying you had 0 scum reads?



I understand that you don't want to call it a solid scum (or town for that matter) but you can understand how someone reads this and thinks your list is town/null/scum vs town/null/justundernull?

My last paragraph question is, why is HF less iffy than Froggy? You spent 3 posts on why Froggy wasn't scummy yet placed him in your most negative category. Why??

On December 09 2014 08:16 Holyflare wrote:
Here's how it's going to roll. This game has a cap on posts so if you start the game with usual joke crap and useless things like rng that you don't follow through with then I'm going to deem you irresponsible and not worthy of being listened to this game. I've rolled town, I'm going to save my posts instead of being usual and chatty and just come up with my usual list of who to lynch and who to never lynch so that when I get nk'd you can just follow it.

Get rekt mafia