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27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
December 10 2014 00:33 GMT
#1061
On December 10 2014 09:30 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:29 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Who the fuck is Rasputin?


Rasputin = rsoultin

He was called that in our last game.


Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
December 10 2014 00:34 GMT
#1062
So i need to sleep and conserve posts.

I'm going to finish off my town circle tomorrow morning and then lynch into whoever is left.

I'm going to add templar to my town circle, initially he was nl for his story, but his posts did have reads and i really like his reentry post, i agree with all his reads, he doesn't like gb, doesn't like ls, on my phone can't remember 3rd read...maybe it was nb. Ah i knew i liked it though.

its interesting 2 people , one after the other, say my play is one liners or fluffy but ive actually made plays and given substantial reads rather than just spam inane bs in spoiler tags.
Zerg for Life
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
December 10 2014 00:34 GMT
#1063
On December 10 2014 09:23 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tubesack, null/town?: I'm not sure how I feel about a brand new player having such elaborate reads and checking other threads. On the one hand it's towny that he's trying so hard but on the other, I don't know if he's a natural tryhard or is getting a lot of help from a scum QT. If I had to read him without paranoia, he is town just because I'd never take notes as scum and I love playing scum.


Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 12:43 LightningStrike wrote:
I looked GB past games and he seemed to town aligned this game and Slam isn't posting stuff like he did when he was scum in the Titanic Game.


Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 17:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Yeah LS is scummy as heck


It seems like the reasoning that leads you to believe tube is probably town isn't taken into account when evaluating LS. Why does it apply in one case, but not the other?



SILENCE EVERYBODY, THIS POST IS EXTREMELY RELEVANT.
I'm adorable.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
December 10 2014 00:34 GMT
#1064
+ Show Spoiler +
26 players with 4 page filters

i expect 104 pages by tomorrow's deadline

seems we're right on track
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
December 10 2014 00:35 GMT
#1065
On December 10 2014 09:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:15 KelsierSC wrote:
Ah cool tubesock didn't read the thread.

my scrooge play was to get a specific read on ff i explained that before. Outside of that i have given lots of good town reads, all of which are developed reads not one liners, weird misrepresentation of my play again. If you need more explanation , ask.

fyi a guy talking to a girl isn't flirting, grow up.

Aww I thought you'd get more upset at him calling you sexist. I want more drama.

Guess I have to start it myself. Ritoky is tunneling me because I am ezpz push. I played this exact way in MSPAINT ritoky, except I think I was even more useless there. If ritoky gets his wish and everyone hops on the fecalfeast train all he has to say after I flip town is "omg he played so bad you can't blame me for thinking he's scum" seems like a good mafia play to me


##vote ritoky


you're wifoming me having motivations, while not addressing my points against you, admitting you're playing anti-town, and being useless....like i just don't get how anyone can read this guy town.

also regarding last game i read you as town by process of elimination because i was doctor and basically solved the game, not because of your play.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 10 2014 00:36 GMT
#1066
On December 10 2014 09:27 Half the Sky wrote:
FF: Looked through your reads and I think you are overseeing why Rasputin has made the points he has on people. You have to also consider why people aren't fighting back. Bats was called out by multiple people, not just Rasputin. As for his push on OWS, he's not posted anything coherent, mostly random things, which is similar to why you had cited Liancourt: random posting. So if you are consistent, there should be nothing wrong with Rasputin pushing OWS.

And regarding meta being anti-town or pro-town, I don't think meta itself is the problem but rather the interpretation of someone else's meta people don't trust. Rasputin is not the only one who disregards meta, LoneMeow has told a few people to disregard meta in their arguments. On the other side of the fence, you have Damdred, LS, etc, using meta to justify some of their arguments. I don't think the use of meta is necessarily alignment indicative, as I've seen it in Student Mafia being used and mis-used for and against people.


I didn't push on OWS, I pushed on LS for blatantly sheeping one of OWS' posts. See here:

(THIS IS OWS POST)

On December 09 2014 11:33 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
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On December 09 2014 11:30 Damdred wrote:
On December 09 2014 11:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Would lynch sicklucker.


Who else would go to the flaming tree of death this day


Nobody, really. Just sicklucker.

I just don't get the feeling that he's the same kind of over-the-top contributor he is as town. The last game I played with him, his desire to contribute was so unbelievably strong that he wound up posting a ton of shit that incriminated himself for the sake of trying to help town.

Instead, we get this game, where he decides to talk about nonsense and fluff in a game centered around posting restrictions. He's posting just to post, when his modus operandi as town is to contribute until his heart stops.

Normally he's incredibly productive and comes up with tons of fresh ideas and perspective. I'm not getting any of that here. Do not like.


(LS POSTS)

On December 09 2014 11:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Scum: sicklucker
sicklucker doesn't seem like he normal town self for this type of game with the post limit and he just throwing a lot of fluff more than anything trying to get the limit early

On December 09 2014 22:11 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker been posting a lot more fluff than any games I played with him and he normally do some funky shenanigans to force people to make early reads awkward at best.

On December 09 2014 22:26 LightningStrike wrote:
sicklucker: Normally sicklucker likes to do weird shenanigans to force everyones town read that are normally awkward and this game he doesn't seem to be doing that.

On December 09 2014 22:39 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 22:37 Xatalos wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:30 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 09 2014 22:14 LoneMeow wrote:
LightningStrike, a bunch of stuff has happened since you posted your list post with reads, care to share some updated reads with us now?

Well not much of my reads did change as I did read the thread from where we were last night compared to today and it been mostly the same stuff as why I given them their original reads


Didn't you think anything of sicklucker's claim?

I did but it doesn't make sense though the way he acting though and when I played with him he was Vanilla town in the games I played with him when he had these weird shenanigans but I not seeing this game. This doesn't seem be the sicklucker I know.

On December 09 2014 22:43 LightningStrike wrote:
Also I not buying sicklucker claim because he doesn't seem to be himself on making weird shenanigans early in the game which he does when he was Vanilla Town.



Last game LS was mafia he blatantly, as in almost word for word, sheeped me on several things I said. This reminded me of that.
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
December 10 2014 00:37 GMT
#1067
On December 10 2014 04:39 froggynoddy wrote:
Why do you keep saying this is doublespeak? This is not double speak fella. I think you should explain why you seem to think so as I don't think I can explain myself any better than I already have.

On another note I don't like lists (apart from Santa's of course). Way too easy to appear town without actually doing anything to benefit town.

FOS:
Ninja (i.e. defends me without really defending - adds a list - no other content or justification)
and possibly Templar (list, does no justify reads, everything posted so far is just description of other people's reads - fluff - or overreaction)

Still reading...



Also, how jerky is this?

I defend his ass saying his post is not alignment indicative. Go through hell for it, and he fucking scum reads me.


What is this shit?

Also 4 posts? Never should have defended you.
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
December 10 2014 00:39 GMT
#1068
On December 10 2014 09:34 KelsierSC wrote:
So i need to sleep and conserve posts.

I'm going to finish off my town circle tomorrow morning and then lynch into whoever is left.

I'm going to add templar to my town circle, initially he was nl for his story, but his posts did have reads and i really like his reentry post, i agree with all his reads, he doesn't like gb, doesn't like ls, on my phone can't remember 3rd read...maybe it was nb. Ah i knew i liked it though.

its interesting 2 people , one after the other, say my play is one liners or fluffy but ive actually made plays and given substantial reads rather than just spam inane bs in spoiler tags.


You may think you have, but you actually haven't.

Just like, I think I have defended myself pretty well, but apparently I actually haven't.

Your reads seem baseless and one liners to some people....

I'll reread your filter, but I as of now, I still don't like you.

#Unvote: Ritoky
#Vote: KelsierSC


Since you have to go, you can defend yourself later
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 10 2014 00:41 GMT
#1069
On December 10 2014 09:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, who is rsolutin? *sp* I don't like his entrance. Nor any of his posts after. Has anyone played with him?


27NB, he's a relatively new player, played in the last Student Mafia game with him (disclaimer: game is still in progress) and he's doing here what he's done last time - poke holes, ask questions, although I notice this go, he has a more edgy tone than he did last game, but you can still understand what he's driving at and why he's picking people/points out. As far as I can tell, a solid town read for me.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 10 2014 00:42 GMT
#1070
On December 10 2014 09:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, I have only 33 posts made, so I'm good for now

WOOT
MORE DEFENSE COMING UP!

Okay, So I think I'm just going to go through filters. So it seems there is a ritoky/FF omgus voting between them going on?

I see someone said ritoky has a case on FF, but FF do you have a case on Ritoky anywhere?

Also, as for LS, where is your mind with that Slam. You said he hasn't done anything townie, but has he done anything scumm in your eyes?

Also @Slam- my bf does want to start playing mafia. Lol, but I think Ima introduce him to video mafia first.... Ya'll slaughter people here in forum. haha

I was scum with Slam on Student and he was Scum on Titanic he not being as useless as those two games as he did tried to start a discussion after a bit of fluff posts and he tried to steer people in the right direction although he does think I'm scum but everyone got their opinions.
@bats I tried to frame you in that game to save my scum team and I not sheeping anyone in this game although yes my post might of looked like OWS but I guess it just our posting style are similar and it was FF post about sicklucker got me to look at sicklucker although I misread his shenanigans this game and thought he was scum but now I think he is town.
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
December 10 2014 00:42 GMT
#1071
On December 10 2014 09:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:03 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Also, who is rsolutin? *sp* I don't like his entrance. Nor any of his posts after. Has anyone played with him?


27NB, he's a relatively new player, played in the last Student Mafia game with him (disclaimer: game is still in progress) and he's doing here what he's done last time - poke holes, ask questions, although I notice this go, he has a more edgy tone than he did last game, but you can still understand what he's driving at and why he's picking people/points out. As far as I can tell, a solid town read for me.


Thank you for this information.

Might have to dig a bit for myself!
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
December 10 2014 00:43 GMT
#1072
On December 10 2014 09:42 LightningStrike wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, I have only 33 posts made, so I'm good for now

WOOT
MORE DEFENSE COMING UP!

Okay, So I think I'm just going to go through filters. So it seems there is a ritoky/FF omgus voting between them going on?

I see someone said ritoky has a case on FF, but FF do you have a case on Ritoky anywhere?

Also, as for LS, where is your mind with that Slam. You said he hasn't done anything townie, but has he done anything scumm in your eyes?

Also @Slam- my bf does want to start playing mafia. Lol, but I think Ima introduce him to video mafia first.... Ya'll slaughter people here in forum. haha

I was scum with Slam on Student and he was Scum on Titanic he not being as useless as those two games as he did tried to start a discussion after a bit of fluff posts and he tried to steer people in the right direction although he does think I'm scum but everyone got their opinions.
@bats I tried to frame you in that game to save my scum team and I not sheeping anyone in this game although yes my post might of looked like OWS but I guess it just our posting style are similar and it was FF post about sicklucker got me to look at sicklucker although I misread his shenanigans this game and thought he was scum but now I think he is town.


Oh, that question was directed toward Slam as to why he thought you were scummy!

But thanks for answering. This helps with a read on you!
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
December 10 2014 00:44 GMT
#1073
@Batsnacks- Random post time

+ Show Spoiler +
Anyone else read Sicklucker's name as dicksucker?

Or is it just me?
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 10 2014 00:44 GMT
#1074
On December 10 2014 09:36 batsnacks wrote:
I didn't push on OWS, I pushed on LS for blatantly sheeping one of OWS' posts. See here:


Bats: You misread my post. I know you didn't push on OWS, FF was apparently scumreading Rasputin because Rasputin pushed OWS. You being called out by multiple people was an entirely separate point.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
LightningStrike
Profile Joined February 2011
United States14277 Posts
December 10 2014 00:47 GMT
#1075
On December 10 2014 09:43 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:42 LightningStrike wrote:
On December 10 2014 09:28 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Okay, I have only 33 posts made, so I'm good for now

WOOT
MORE DEFENSE COMING UP!

Okay, So I think I'm just going to go through filters. So it seems there is a ritoky/FF omgus voting between them going on?

I see someone said ritoky has a case on FF, but FF do you have a case on Ritoky anywhere?

Also, as for LS, where is your mind with that Slam. You said he hasn't done anything townie, but has he done anything scumm in your eyes?

Also @Slam- my bf does want to start playing mafia. Lol, but I think Ima introduce him to video mafia first.... Ya'll slaughter people here in forum. haha

I was scum with Slam on Student and he was Scum on Titanic he not being as useless as those two games as he did tried to start a discussion after a bit of fluff posts and he tried to steer people in the right direction although he does think I'm scum but everyone got their opinions.
@bats I tried to frame you in that game to save my scum team and I not sheeping anyone in this game although yes my post might of looked like OWS but I guess it just our posting style are similar and it was FF post about sicklucker got me to look at sicklucker although I misread his shenanigans this game and thought he was scum but now I think he is town.


Oh, that question was directed toward Slam as to why he thought you were scummy!

But thanks for answering. This helps with a read on you!

Ops I misread it and thought it was towards me my bad .
May the next light shine/Former #1 Alliance LoL fan/ Current Teamliquid LoL Fan
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 10 2014 00:48 GMT
#1076
Kelsier, I'll get back to you. Technically, I said for lack of better word it was flirting. Meaning it's something less but I fully believe that if you thought 27NB had a penis you would not have continued those pointless posts towards her. This judgement has nothing to do with maturity.

On December 10 2014 09:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On December 10 2014 09:10 Tubesock wrote:In your defense of Froggy (you had 3ish posts defending Froggy) in one of them you stated how NF did essentially the same thing? So, why null NF and scum Froggy?



Okay, I reread this like 3 times and had trouble understanding your last paragraph, so I'll try and answer the best way I can.
I don't have scum on Froggy. I had an iffy. Iffy for me does not mean that he is scum. It's more of a null. The scum list for me would be the "People I need to look at". When I make reads, I put them under categories that'll best explain where my mind was at at that moment. I realize, prob doesnt work for other people reading.


I took your iffy as scum. Your list had 3 categories. So, at the time you're saying you had 0 scum reads?

On December 09 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
He'll be here in five minutes so I'll leave you with this:

Templar Town
Damdred Town
Slam semitownie

Those I need to look more at:
HF
Vivax
Kelsier

Iffy:
Froggy
Kita (I expected more than just hey)
Fecal

I don't really like how two people jumped to defend me. That always makes me skeptical. Don't get me wrong, thank you for that, because it's absolutely true and makes sense.

HF is making something out of nothing. Idk if it's reaction testing? Or backlash for me calling him out on his post.

tbh, I'm not counting how many posts I make. I type a lot, I ask a lot of questions. If I get near my cap, well then, atleast I know I made a difference in the beginning of the day, instead of arguing later.

Have fun everyone, and see you tomorrow!


I understand that you don't want to call it a solid scum (or town for that matter) but you can understand how someone reads this and thinks your list is town/null/scum vs town/null/justundernull?

My last paragraph question is, why is HF less iffy than Froggy? You spent 3 posts on why Froggy wasn't scummy yet placed him in your most negative category. Why??

On December 09 2014 08:50 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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On December 09 2014 08:47 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:37 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:32 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@ Slam
@ Damdred

Didn't HF basically do just the same thing? Except more of he came into the thread with "Omgerd we have cap posts. Im town, follow me later" and then leaves.

And yet, Damdred, you have him as town for basically a shit post?

While I agree, people talking about policy lynching and lurkers seem off, he seems just an easy target for people to scum read because of that.


I'm still here and haven't made an excuse about leaving? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying in bold at all though. It's one thing to talk about policy but this is showing that first and foremost you did not read his post because:

A) he wrote about not policy lynching lirkers because it's bad

And

B) he wrote about agreeing to policy lynch lurkers

And secondly you are defending a person that "is an easy target to be scum read" when that person has done genuinely scummy things and you are brushing it off


##vote 27ninjabunnies

Enjoy your date


I'm not brushing it off, I' trying to look at it objectively. I think what he said makes sense. A. I know what he said. I said he was talking about policy lynching and lurkers. I never specifically said what he thought about it.

I don't think it's scummy. I think people are making something scummy out of nothing.

Thanks for the vote I knew it was to happen eventually, but I figured Ritoky would be the first to do it!

And I will enjoy my date Food and alcohol. what's better?


Well no. You said people talking about lynching lurkers are "off" and he was an "easy target to look scummy" which is already a contradiction in one post and now you are saying you know what he said and it doesn't look bad and people are making mountains out of mole hills which is a contradiction with your first post. There's a great deal of backtracking in what you are saying and I don't like it.




Ummm no, In every game I have played, people always first attack the guy who talks about policy lynching and lurkers, whether doing it is bad or good. The same thing is happening this game. I don't think it is alignment indicative for froggy. I would need him to talk more to get a read. I'm just saying that there's no sense in attacking someone for something that seems "scummy" when it isn't. It seems off to everyone else, which is why people are targeting him, you get what I'm saying?


On December 09 2014 08:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2014 08:37 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:32 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@ Slam
@ Damdred

Didn't HF basically do just the same thing? Except more of he came into the thread with "Omgerd we have cap posts. Im town, follow me later" and then leaves.

And yet, Damdred, you have him as town for basically a shit post?

While I agree, people talking about policy lynching and lurkers seem off, he seems just an easy target for people to scum read because of that.


I'm still here and haven't made an excuse about leaving? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying in bold at all though. It's one thing to talk about policy but this is showing that first and foremost you did not read his post because:

A) he wrote about not policy lynching lirkers because it's bad

And

B) he wrote about agreeing to policy lynch lurkers

And secondly you are defending a person that "is an easy target to be scum read" when that person has done genuinely scummy things and you are brushing it off


##vote 27ninjabunnies

Enjoy your date


I'm not brushing it off, I' trying to look at it objectively. I think what he said makes sense. A. I know what he said. I said he was talking about policy lynching and lurkers. I never specifically said what he thought about it.

I don't think it's scummy. I think people are making something scummy out of nothing.

Thanks for the vote I knew it was to happen eventually, but I figured Ritoky would be the first to do it!

And I will enjoy my date Food and alcohol. what's better?


kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
December 10 2014 00:53 GMT
#1077
On December 10 2014 09:34 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2014 09:23 kitaman27 wrote:
On December 10 2014 07:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
Tubesack, null/town?: I'm not sure how I feel about a brand new player having such elaborate reads and checking other threads. On the one hand it's towny that he's trying so hard but on the other, I don't know if he's a natural tryhard or is getting a lot of help from a scum QT. If I had to read him without paranoia, he is town just because I'd never take notes as scum and I love playing scum.


On December 09 2014 12:43 LightningStrike wrote:
I looked GB past games and he seemed to town aligned this game and Slam isn't posting stuff like he did when he was scum in the Titanic Game.


On December 09 2014 17:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Yeah LS is scummy as heck


It seems like the reasoning that leads you to believe tube is probably town isn't taken into account when evaluating LS. Why does it apply in one case, but not the other?



SILENCE EVERYBODY, THIS POST IS EXTREMELY RELEVANT.


HTS, bunnies, LS, Tube/anyone else in the thread currently. Do you guys feel this is noteworthy as well?
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
21972 Posts
December 10 2014 00:53 GMT
#1078
On December 10 2014 08:31 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Vivax- after reading through his filter seems really town to me. Actually probably one of my top towns at the moment.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/472628-tl-mafia-lxix-carol-of-the-bells?page=40#791

This post explain why. I think I've explained why I put Froggy as iffy, vivax, at that time. What do you think? Also, In that post you mention you don't like Koshi, or more so he's freaking you out. Can you go a little bit more into Koshi, and what kind of read you've made on him since that post?


To be honest I've been fairly lazy so far. I've focused on single things that popped out at me like tube's post and the situation with you at the start of the game. I'll be making some coffee now and work on reading the whole game for real.
I'm guessing there's 5 scum and 1 SK so I hope I can deliver all guesses until the end of the day.

I found that part from Koshi scummy cause as I said in the post it's a thing mafia likes to write especially about teammates. They don't want to not scumread them but also not push them so they agree with the pushers but put in some sort of caveat that allows them to do something else. And I'm generally an enemy of too scummy to be scum arguments, you either find something scummy or you don't.

What you can call such things are posts that can be viewed as falsely scummy, but too scummy to be scum implies you find it scummy.

Brb with coffee and motivation.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 10 2014 00:57 GMT
#1079
I am Rasputin. I also answer to RS, putin, rsoul, what have you.

Because this was eluded to by I forget who...the reasons for voting OWS were obvious in my interactions with OWS, but I do not expect people to actually pay that close attention (as y'all have clearly now demonstrated) so put it all in a nice neat post to see if that would generate any discussion. Which it has to some small extent.

LS is new and learning. My prods at him were to get him to post more and post on things other than just his initial list. If vets want to rely on meta, more power to you, you might actually know what you're talking about (even if I can't trust those of you I've never played with before on others I haven't played with before) however LS using meta makes no sense. That said, he probably is trying to learn from the vets. I see no reason to scumlist him at this time and agree that being fine with tube and not with LS is contradictory.

Spending pages and pages reiterating the same weak points irritates. Thus the dismissal of 27NB and HTS. 27NB has done little in her newest posts either, however...though she has given some reads so I will wait to see when her reading catches up to her posts.

Also...

On December 10 2014 07:02 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 10 2014 06:54 Fecalfeast wrote:
On December 10 2014 06:49 ritoky wrote:
On December 10 2014 06:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Yeah I don't really care, ritoky, sorry.


yup, cuz this is town

Is it scum, though? I /obsed this thread because I knew I wouldn't be happy with certain roles but was told it would be a low content game and not to worry about lurking.


Well if you can't keep up with the thread, can you read and give reads on individual filters that shouldn't be more than a few pages long? Really not sure who your scum reads are at all.

If you want individual names, pick some people from rsoultin, froggy, Obi, batsnacks, ritoky, LoneMeow, Tube?



Hinting I'm scummy, punk? Tell me what you really think xP
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
27ninjabunnies
Profile Joined April 2014
United States2486 Posts
December 10 2014 00:57 GMT
#1080
On December 10 2014 09:48 Tubesock wrote:
Kelsier, I'll get back to you. Technically, I said for lack of better word it was flirting. Meaning it's something less but I fully believe that if you thought 27NB had a penis you would not have continued those pointless posts towards her. This judgement has nothing to do with maturity.

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On December 10 2014 09:18 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On December 10 2014 09:10 Tubesock wrote:In your defense of Froggy (you had 3ish posts defending Froggy) in one of them you stated how NF did essentially the same thing? So, why null NF and scum Froggy?



Okay, I reread this like 3 times and had trouble understanding your last paragraph, so I'll try and answer the best way I can.
I don't have scum on Froggy. I had an iffy. Iffy for me does not mean that he is scum. It's more of a null. The scum list for me would be the "People I need to look at". When I make reads, I put them under categories that'll best explain where my mind was at at that moment. I realize, prob doesnt work for other people reading.


I took your iffy as scum. Your list had 3 categories. So, at the time you're saying you had 0 scum reads?

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On December 09 2014 09:02 27ninjabunnies wrote:
He'll be here in five minutes so I'll leave you with this:

Templar Town
Damdred Town
Slam semitownie

Those I need to look more at:
HF
Vivax
Kelsier

Iffy:
Froggy
Kita (I expected more than just hey)
Fecal

I don't really like how two people jumped to defend me. That always makes me skeptical. Don't get me wrong, thank you for that, because it's absolutely true and makes sense.

HF is making something out of nothing. Idk if it's reaction testing? Or backlash for me calling him out on his post.

tbh, I'm not counting how many posts I make. I type a lot, I ask a lot of questions. If I get near my cap, well then, atleast I know I made a difference in the beginning of the day, instead of arguing later.

Have fun everyone, and see you tomorrow!


I understand that you don't want to call it a solid scum (or town for that matter) but you can understand how someone reads this and thinks your list is town/null/scum vs town/null/justundernull?

My last paragraph question is, why is HF less iffy than Froggy? You spent 3 posts on why Froggy wasn't scummy yet placed him in your most negative category. Why??

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On December 09 2014 08:50 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:47 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:37 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:32 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@ Slam
@ Damdred

Didn't HF basically do just the same thing? Except more of he came into the thread with "Omgerd we have cap posts. Im town, follow me later" and then leaves.

And yet, Damdred, you have him as town for basically a shit post?

While I agree, people talking about policy lynching and lurkers seem off, he seems just an easy target for people to scum read because of that.


I'm still here and haven't made an excuse about leaving? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying in bold at all though. It's one thing to talk about policy but this is showing that first and foremost you did not read his post because:

A) he wrote about not policy lynching lirkers because it's bad

And

B) he wrote about agreeing to policy lynch lurkers

And secondly you are defending a person that "is an easy target to be scum read" when that person has done genuinely scummy things and you are brushing it off


##vote 27ninjabunnies

Enjoy your date


I'm not brushing it off, I' trying to look at it objectively. I think what he said makes sense. A. I know what he said. I said he was talking about policy lynching and lurkers. I never specifically said what he thought about it.

I don't think it's scummy. I think people are making something scummy out of nothing.

Thanks for the vote I knew it was to happen eventually, but I figured Ritoky would be the first to do it!

And I will enjoy my date Food and alcohol. what's better?


Well no. You said people talking about lynching lurkers are "off" and he was an "easy target to look scummy" which is already a contradiction in one post and now you are saying you know what he said and it doesn't look bad and people are making mountains out of mole hills which is a contradiction with your first post. There's a great deal of backtracking in what you are saying and I don't like it.




Ummm no, In every game I have played, people always first attack the guy who talks about policy lynching and lurkers, whether doing it is bad or good. The same thing is happening this game. I don't think it is alignment indicative for froggy. I would need him to talk more to get a read. I'm just saying that there's no sense in attacking someone for something that seems "scummy" when it isn't. It seems off to everyone else, which is why people are targeting him, you get what I'm saying?


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On December 09 2014 08:41 27ninjabunnies wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:37 Holyflare wrote:
On December 09 2014 08:32 27ninjabunnies wrote:
@ Slam
@ Damdred

Didn't HF basically do just the same thing? Except more of he came into the thread with "Omgerd we have cap posts. Im town, follow me later" and then leaves.

And yet, Damdred, you have him as town for basically a shit post?

While I agree, people talking about policy lynching and lurkers seem off, he seems just an easy target for people to scum read because of that.


I'm still here and haven't made an excuse about leaving? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying in bold at all though. It's one thing to talk about policy but this is showing that first and foremost you did not read his post because:

A) he wrote about not policy lynching lirkers because it's bad

And

B) he wrote about agreeing to policy lynch lurkers

And secondly you are defending a person that "is an easy target to be scum read" when that person has done genuinely scummy things and you are brushing it off


##vote 27ninjabunnies

Enjoy your date


I'm not brushing it off, I' trying to look at it objectively. I think what he said makes sense. A. I know what he said. I said he was talking about policy lynching and lurkers. I never specifically said what he thought about it.

I don't think it's scummy. I think people are making something scummy out of nothing.

Thanks for the vote I knew it was to happen eventually, but I figured Ritoky would be the first to do it!

And I will enjoy my date Food and alcohol. what's better?




I like you Instead of attacking me, you are actually trying to understand. I appreciate that.

Okay, let's see.

Those I need to look more at:
HF
Vivax
Kelsier

That was my basically scum list.
Like I said, one: I was headed out on a date, so didn't really make it clear. Iffy is more null yes.
I didn't like HF for this post here.

On December 09 2014 08:16 Holyflare wrote:
Here's how it's going to roll. This game has a cap on posts so if you start the game with usual joke crap and useless things like rng that you don't follow through with then I'm going to deem you irresponsible and not worthy of being listened to this game. I've rolled town, I'm going to save my posts instead of being usual and chatty and just come up with my usual list of who to lynch and who to never lynch so that when I get nk'd you can just follow it.

Get rekt mafia


and for his misread of my post, and instead of trying to understand what I was getting at, he nitpicked everything I said and turned it somehow to scum.

The thing about HF is he is a great mafia player, both in forum and video mafia games. He is someone people like to sheep, because his reads are usually good. His read on me made me think he was mafia trying to push a mislynch. Especially how many people have now followed that read, and I remember seeing one or two people say they are basically sheeping HF.

However, recently I added him now to my town list. Ive liked his reads recently, even if he is still wrong on me. I especially like his questioning of Kelsier, someone I'm not sure about any more.

Also, my read on vivax has changed. I was originally leaning scum on him, and even though he has a short filter, I like some of his posts. They seem substantial.

The only one I currently have on my "Scum/people to look at list" is Kelsier
I suspect the secret of personal attraction is locked up in our unique imperfections, flaws and frailties.~Hugh Mackay
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