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On December 20 2014 03:58 rsoultin wrote:
Lol wasn't Tube the one going on about getting framed for getting passed a present? I don't think he ever claimed it. So that and his "slip" are your reasons, right, LS?
Alright, I'll go with Templar cause I'm going out and not certain I'll be back for EoD.
That said, I still think GB is more likely to flip scum -shrugs- Templar has some issues, but I could see him being just an apathetic lurker all too easily, unfortunately...
##unvote
##vote Templar
His slip and his behavior was scummy before hand too.
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Build a case? If I get back in time I'll take a look. I didn't see your case in your filter, but I only went back a few pages.
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It is a bit disturbing that Tube hasn't posted almost anything today while he went on a crazy posting streak when he was a lynch candidate... Fits the scum pattern of staying under the radar when possible.
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On December 20 2014 04:04 rsoultin wrote:
Build a case? If I get back in time I'll take a look. I didn't see your case in your filter, but I only went back a few pages.
On December 15 2014 13:35 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 13:34 LightningStrike wrote:On December 15 2014 13:18 The_Templar wrote:On December 15 2014 13:18 LightningStrike wrote:On December 15 2014 13:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Why aren't you voting HF, LS? The HF case doesn't look good in my eyes and he felt very townie to me that's all. So why Tubesock? Tubesock acted extremely scummy since Day 2 after the lynch of 27NB and the massacre of deaths of townies and changed his posting style completely not giving up on sicklucker and me being scum when we were clearly Town as I role claimed Ghost of Christmas Present and him scum slipping telling us that they were 5 mafias instead of the earlier guessed 6 earlier in the thread Here the post of the 6 mafias idea On December 10 2014 00:10 Tubesock wrote:Holy Moses. I didn't think I was such a slow reader but it's been hours and I feel I will never catch up to the thread while taking notes also. I'm trying to get reads, but they are conflicting with people who I feel are pretty freaking smart sounding. Namely, Koshi and Xata. Koshi, since you are here can you tell me more about your HTS read? I feel I'm fairly null/town on her. Namely, I believe that Froggy's plynch statement isn't meaningful. Bunny latches and basically posts it's probably bad but she thinks it's ok. Then scum lists Froggy. Then several people jump on her and later Dam asks HTS about the Froggy/plynch read. HTS replies that it's null on his part but Bunnies scum listing is scummy. HTS doesn't seem to scumlist Froggy. Then a bunch more people argue (kelsierSC, Bats, Viv others). I'd like to know why I should elevate the signifigance of HTS's reads and downplay Bunny's? Also I think people should read this more closely from the OP: On December 04 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote:Setup Information All the roles below can be present in the game, and no role has any sort of a guarantee that it exists in the game. There may for example be three Ghosts of Christmas Yet To Come, no other Ghosts and no Scrooge, yet Marley might be present. In the same sense, there may be Disgruntled Christmas Workers without any Santas or Branch Managers. There may also be multiple instances of the same role. It appears that given bad enough RNG we could have 6 Marlows, or 6 Mass Murderers, or 0. Which makes me wonder why we had a Scrooge claim?? It makes me wonder if any claims will matter as we can have multiples...so why not counterclaim? Here the post of his scum slip of saying 5 instead On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:
##kelsierSC
Yes YES. He is of the 5. Here is him assuring it's 5 mafias QUOTE] On December 12 2014 11:41 Tubesock wrote:On December 12 2014 11:16 The_Templar wrote:Not seeing Kelsier being mafia unless someone points out why. His cases make sense and he's putting in some effort, but I haven't read the thread carefully. I don't like LS, as he was 'passively' blue hunting and hasn't really done much besides link people's metas in an attempt to look helpful. He did claim a role though... On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:
##kelsierSC
Yes YES. He is of the 5. 5? Not 6? Please explain why you said 5 ##Vote Oooh let's dance. GB, Slick, and now YOU are here to "pressure" and with your buddy KelsierSC on the wagon. 4 of 5. Is it my 5 or the games 5? Does it matter? No. Oh, wait, you are here to pressure me as your naughty friend Sicklucker's silly ##Vote: Tubesock didn't work. 5 of 5, 5 of mine or the games? Now does it matter? No. Put in some effort. Defend KelsierSC or sink him now. The choice is yours. Distance or closeness. Answer that, should be easy, there is A LOT of content. Then we have a dance. I'll be here. When's your next "test"? How long you here? Huh, you here for 1 response or sticking around to REALLY DIG FOR SOME SCUM???? When KSC did flipped KSC flipped scum and he did say KSC was 1 out of 5 So clearly he got to be mafia at this point which is why I voting for him right now. Fixed formatting.
This was my case on Tubesock.
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On December 20 2014 04:07 Xatalos wrote:
It is a bit disturbing that Tube hasn't posted almost anything today while he went on a crazy posting streak when he was a lynch candidate... Fits the scum pattern of staying under the radar when possible.
oh yeah he's still scum btw
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If we lynch holyflare and he flips town, we can trust his case on Templar as legit and kill scum.
If we lynch holyflare and he flips mafia, I'm gonna masturbate to a photo of me.
I can't see me working this game out without lynching holyflare
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On December 20 2014 04:07 LightningStrike wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 04:04 rsoultin wrote:
Build a case? If I get back in time I'll take a look. I didn't see your case in your filter, but I only went back a few pages. Show nested quote +On December 15 2014 13:35 LightningStrike wrote:On December 15 2014 13:34 LightningStrike wrote:On December 15 2014 13:18 The_Templar wrote:On December 15 2014 13:18 LightningStrike wrote:On December 15 2014 13:14 GlowingBear wrote:
Why aren't you voting HF, LS? The HF case doesn't look good in my eyes and he felt very townie to me that's all. So why Tubesock? Tubesock acted extremely scummy since Day 2 after the lynch of 27NB and the massacre of deaths of townies and changed his posting style completely not giving up on sicklucker and me being scum when we were clearly Town as I role claimed Ghost of Christmas Present and him scum slipping telling us that they were 5 mafias instead of the earlier guessed 6 earlier in the thread Here the post of the 6 mafias idea On December 10 2014 00:10 Tubesock wrote:Holy Moses. I didn't think I was such a slow reader but it's been hours and I feel I will never catch up to the thread while taking notes also. I'm trying to get reads, but they are conflicting with people who I feel are pretty freaking smart sounding. Namely, Koshi and Xata. Koshi, since you are here can you tell me more about your HTS read? I feel I'm fairly null/town on her. Namely, I believe that Froggy's plynch statement isn't meaningful. Bunny latches and basically posts it's probably bad but she thinks it's ok. Then scum lists Froggy. Then several people jump on her and later Dam asks HTS about the Froggy/plynch read. HTS replies that it's null on his part but Bunnies scum listing is scummy. HTS doesn't seem to scumlist Froggy. Then a bunch more people argue (kelsierSC, Bats, Viv others). I'd like to know why I should elevate the signifigance of HTS's reads and downplay Bunny's? Also I think people should read this more closely from the OP: On December 04 2014 19:32 Palmar wrote:Setup Information All the roles below can be present in the game, and no role has any sort of a guarantee that it exists in the game. There may for example be three Ghosts of Christmas Yet To Come, no other Ghosts and no Scrooge, yet Marley might be present. In the same sense, there may be Disgruntled Christmas Workers without any Santas or Branch Managers. There may also be multiple instances of the same role. It appears that given bad enough RNG we could have 6 Marlows, or 6 Mass Murderers, or 0. Which makes me wonder why we had a Scrooge claim?? It makes me wonder if any claims will matter as we can have multiples...so why not counterclaim? Here the post of his scum slip of saying 5 instead On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:
##kelsierSC
Yes YES. He is of the 5. Here is him assuring it's 5 mafias QUOTE] On December 12 2014 11:41 Tubesock wrote:On December 12 2014 11:16 The_Templar wrote:Not seeing Kelsier being mafia unless someone points out why. His cases make sense and he's putting in some effort, but I haven't read the thread carefully. I don't like LS, as he was 'passively' blue hunting and hasn't really done much besides link people's metas in an attempt to look helpful. He did claim a role though... On December 12 2014 10:37 Tubesock wrote:On December 12 2014 09:53 Alakaslam wrote:
##kelsierSC
Yes YES. He is of the 5. 5? Not 6? Please explain why you said 5 ##Vote Oooh let's dance. GB, Slick, and now YOU are here to "pressure" and with your buddy KelsierSC on the wagon. 4 of 5. Is it my 5 or the games 5? Does it matter? No. Oh, wait, you are here to pressure me as your naughty friend Sicklucker's silly ##Vote: Tubesock didn't work. 5 of 5, 5 of mine or the games? Now does it matter? No. Put in some effort. Defend KelsierSC or sink him now. The choice is yours. Distance or closeness. Answer that, should be easy, there is A LOT of content. Then we have a dance. I'll be here. When's your next "test"? How long you here? Huh, you here for 1 response or sticking around to REALLY DIG FOR SOME SCUM???? When KSC did flipped KSC flipped scum and he did say KSC was 1 out of 5 So clearly he got to be mafia at this point which is why I voting for him right now. Fixed formatting. This was my case on Tubesock.
That's not much of a case but yeah, it is one suspicious point about him that's difficult to explain away.
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Late to the party but since the question was asked, as said before I was equal on GB/Templar.
HF is not the lynch, I just don't buy the concept of killing someone to find information especially when we're this close to lylo.
##unvote
##vote Templar
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On December 20 2014 04:07 Xatalos wrote:
It is a bit disturbing that Tube hasn't posted almost anything today while he went on a crazy posting streak when he was a lynch candidate... Fits the scum pattern of staying under the radar when possible.
Apparently he said he needed to step back to review everything. His first game here, so I honestly can't tell.
On December 19 2014 16:35 Tubesock wrote:
I haven't posted anything because I'm trying to reevaluate. It's pretty evident that everything in this game is WIFOM in one way or the other.
I still want to vote Holyflare for fairly simple reasons. I still find it exceptionally hard to believe that KSC and Ritoky would rather let KSC die than easily jump on HF. Sick or not, it's far better to lynch a town and then have the rest of us realize that KSC is 100% mafia and have him die at the next lynching. I also doubt anyone was town reading Templar, so HF's case was probably the easiest case to make. I'm also fairly certain that we won't stop arguing about HF till he lynches or the game ends. He's a huge distraction.
I'm questioning my vote on HF because I think Rsoutlin's case on GB is very well thought out and logical. Also, Sicklucker is pushing hard for it too, and I still scumread him for the same reasons (which I'm WIFOMing myself about).
I was very wrong on Ritoky, and Froggy so it's pretty easy to see my world is incorrect. Now, I'm trying to figure out if it's all garbage or just some of it.
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I'm here.
I have no problem voting HF or Templar. I don't think Templar has done anything towny. I think HF is mafia's ringleader still, and needs to flip one way or the other. We lynch Templar today, then I think we will spend the next three days arguing about HF and GB. If we lynch either HF or GB, then we will probably spend like 10 posts on lynching Templar. It doesn't sound like many people are towning him.
I don't understand why HF will argue for so long with Sicklucker if it isn't to set something up. HF said something like "Fine, I sent my present. Happy Birthday." And the donkey that I am thought he was talking to me since TL changed my icon to happy birthday. So, I thought it was a set up. Anyway, I don't really understand why HF won't say who he was talking to, but I also don't think it matters.
I still think HF, Sick, and Templar are scum. GlowingBear is looking scummier too, but I'm not quite willing to vote him yet over those other three.
Also, why do people think that everytime someone says "I'm sending a present" they are telling the truth? I don't think Sicklucker had a present to give Damdred. IT was just a nice cover to execute him.
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On December 20 2014 05:20 Tubesock wrote:
I'm here.
I have no problem voting HF or Templar. I don't think Templar has done anything towny. I think HF is mafia's ringleader still, and needs to flip one way or the other. We lynch Templar today, then I think we will spend the next three days arguing about HF and GB. If we lynch either HF or GB, then we will probably spend like 10 posts on lynching Templar. It doesn't sound like many people are towning him.
I don't understand why HF will argue for so long with Sicklucker if it isn't to set something up. HF said something like "Fine, I sent my present. Happy Birthday." And the donkey that I am thought he was talking to me since TL changed my icon to happy birthday. So, I thought it was a set up. Anyway, I don't really understand why HF won't say who he was talking to, but I also don't think it matters.
I still think HF, Sick, and Templar are scum. GlowingBear is looking scummier too, but I'm not quite willing to vote him yet over those other three.
Also, why do people think that everytime someone says "I'm sending a present" they are telling the truth? I don't think Sicklucker had a present to give Damdred. IT was just a nice cover to execute him.
If you don't think damdred died to a present, please outline the night kills in a way that makes sense.
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On December 20 2014 05:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
If you don't think damdred died to a present, please outline the night kills in a way that makes sense.
I can't. I also don't think anyone can. It would require knowing the set up which is something none of us do with the exception of mafia.
It just seems awfully strange to me that people don't take into account that people can lie about sending/giving/receiving presents. None of it can be verified in anyway. Every bit of it is WIFOM.
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On December 20 2014 05:26 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 05:20 Tubesock wrote:
I'm here.
I have no problem voting HF or Templar. I don't think Templar has done anything towny. I think HF is mafia's ringleader still, and needs to flip one way or the other. We lynch Templar today, then I think we will spend the next three days arguing about HF and GB. If we lynch either HF or GB, then we will probably spend like 10 posts on lynching Templar. It doesn't sound like many people are towning him.
I don't understand why HF will argue for so long with Sicklucker if it isn't to set something up. HF said something like "Fine, I sent my present. Happy Birthday." And the donkey that I am thought he was talking to me since TL changed my icon to happy birthday. So, I thought it was a set up. Anyway, I don't really understand why HF won't say who he was talking to, but I also don't think it matters.
I still think HF, Sick, and Templar are scum. GlowingBear is looking scummier too, but I'm not quite willing to vote him yet over those other three.
Also, why do people think that everytime someone says "I'm sending a present" they are telling the truth? I don't think Sicklucker had a present to give Damdred. IT was just a nice cover to execute him. If you don't think damdred died to a present, please outline the night kills in a way that makes sense.
I did
And you said PRAISE GB
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On December 20 2014 05:26 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 05:20 Tubesock wrote:
I'm here.
I have no problem voting HF or Templar. I don't think Templar has done anything towny. I think HF is mafia's ringleader still, and needs to flip one way or the other. We lynch Templar today, then I think we will spend the next three days arguing about HF and GB. If we lynch either HF or GB, then we will probably spend like 10 posts on lynching Templar. It doesn't sound like many people are towning him.
I don't understand why HF will argue for so long with Sicklucker if it isn't to set something up. HF said something like "Fine, I sent my present. Happy Birthday." And the donkey that I am thought he was talking to me since TL changed my icon to happy birthday. So, I thought it was a set up. Anyway, I don't really understand why HF won't say who he was talking to, but I also don't think it matters.
I still think HF, Sick, and Templar are scum. GlowingBear is looking scummier too, but I'm not quite willing to vote him yet over those other three.
Also, why do people think that everytime someone says "I'm sending a present" they are telling the truth? I don't think Sicklucker had a present to give Damdred. IT was just a nice cover to execute him. If you don't think damdred died to a present, please outline the night kills in a way that makes sense.
There were 5 night kills.
We know there was 1 vig (OWS)
We know there were 2 scum with extra KSs (KSC-Branch Manager and ritoky MassMurderer)
We know that after these 2 died, mafia still had their 2 auto KPs.
That accounts for the 5 night kills
No one had to die to a present
xP Sorry Tube, no, I don't know that's what happened, but there's hardly a reason for scum not to try to get shots off on the first night, so it's likely that the ones with extra KSs did make kills.
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On December 20 2014 04:12 GlowingBear wrote:
If we lynch holyflare and he flips town, we can trust his case on Templar as legit and kill scum.
If we lynch holyflare and he flips mafia, I'm gonna masturbate to a photo of me.
I can't see me working this game out without lynching holyflare
Also, this just makes me want to lynch you more. Are people really that certain about Templar that with possibly only one mislynch left we'd auto kill him just because HF didn't turn out to be scum? Without discussion? Cause I sure am not that sure about Templar.
Sounds more like a predetermined set of mislynches to me -_-
That and I don't want the image of your junk in my brain. Knock it off.
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On December 20 2014 05:38 rsoultin wrote:
xP Sorry Tube, no, I don't know that's what happened, but there's hardly a reason for scum not to try to get shots off on the first night, so it's likely that the ones with extra KSs did make kills.
I'm sorry, I don't see what we are disagreeing on. I also don't see a reason why mafia wouldn't kill as many as possible the first night. Or the second for that matter.
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So that was a question for tubesack. Thanks gb and rsoultin... I wasn't asking because I can't figure it out.
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On December 20 2014 05:38 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 05:26 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 20 2014 05:20 Tubesock wrote:
I'm here.
I have no problem voting HF or Templar. I don't think Templar has done anything towny. I think HF is mafia's ringleader still, and needs to flip one way or the other. We lynch Templar today, then I think we will spend the next three days arguing about HF and GB. If we lynch either HF or GB, then we will probably spend like 10 posts on lynching Templar. It doesn't sound like many people are towning him.
I don't understand why HF will argue for so long with Sicklucker if it isn't to set something up. HF said something like "Fine, I sent my present. Happy Birthday." And the donkey that I am thought he was talking to me since TL changed my icon to happy birthday. So, I thought it was a set up. Anyway, I don't really understand why HF won't say who he was talking to, but I also don't think it matters.
I still think HF, Sick, and Templar are scum. GlowingBear is looking scummier too, but I'm not quite willing to vote him yet over those other three.
Also, why do people think that everytime someone says "I'm sending a present" they are telling the truth? I don't think Sicklucker had a present to give Damdred. IT was just a nice cover to execute him. If you don't think damdred died to a present, please outline the night kills in a way that makes sense. There were 5 night kills. We know there was 1 vig (OWS) We know there were 2 scum with extra KSs (KSC-Branch Manager and ritoky MassMurderer) We know that after these 2 died, mafia still had their 2 auto KPs. That accounts for the 5 night kills No one had to die to a present xP Sorry Tube, no, I don't know that's what happened, but there's hardly a reason for scum not to try to get shots off on the first night, so it's likely that the ones with extra KSs did make kills.
The OP says only claimed disgruntled workers can be shot.
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On December 20 2014 05:43 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On December 20 2014 05:38 rsoultin wrote:On December 20 2014 05:26 Fecalfeast wrote:On December 20 2014 05:20 Tubesock wrote:
I'm here.
I have no problem voting HF or Templar. I don't think Templar has done anything towny. I think HF is mafia's ringleader still, and needs to flip one way or the other. We lynch Templar today, then I think we will spend the next three days arguing about HF and GB. If we lynch either HF or GB, then we will probably spend like 10 posts on lynching Templar. It doesn't sound like many people are towning him.
I don't understand why HF will argue for so long with Sicklucker if it isn't to set something up. HF said something like "Fine, I sent my present. Happy Birthday." And the donkey that I am thought he was talking to me since TL changed my icon to happy birthday. So, I thought it was a set up. Anyway, I don't really understand why HF won't say who he was talking to, but I also don't think it matters.
I still think HF, Sick, and Templar are scum. GlowingBear is looking scummier too, but I'm not quite willing to vote him yet over those other three.
Also, why do people think that everytime someone says "I'm sending a present" they are telling the truth? I don't think Sicklucker had a present to give Damdred. IT was just a nice cover to execute him. If you don't think damdred died to a present, please outline the night kills in a way that makes sense. There were 5 night kills. We know there was 1 vig (OWS) We know there were 2 scum with extra KSs (KSC-Branch Manager and ritoky MassMurderer) We know that after these 2 died, mafia still had their 2 auto KPs. That accounts for the 5 night kills No one had to die to a present xP Sorry Tube, no, I don't know that's what happened, but there's hardly a reason for scum not to try to get shots off on the first night, so it's likely that the ones with extra KSs did make kills. The OP says only claimed disgruntled workers can be shot.
Lol, you're right, I keep forgetting that.
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Yeah, KSC accounted for zero KP because no one claimed D1. The other variables are Marley killing Kush vs the present.
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