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Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 16 2014 21:11 GMT
#3681
I know it's the only reason to lump them together but it's a pretty big reason for me
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froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
December 16 2014 21:14 GMT
#3682
Well come to think of it. If Rit jumps on HF and HF flips town. Then Kelsier + Rit team is pretty much confirmed. Whilst if he goes on to Kelsier, then only Kelsier (who he knew would flip) is confirmed and Rit has time to make more moves.

Does that make sense?
'better still, a satisfied man'
sicklucker
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Canada16987 Posts
December 16 2014 21:14 GMT
#3683
So I think im allowed one most post, im a little surprised no one knows why I dont mind voting out oats. Like 5-10 posts were about it so I know alot of you are not reading very well. If ritiky is mafia then he gave the kill present to a partner. Im fairly sure oats is mafia so its a chance to reduce kp, killing ritoky wont do this but its not a bad kill i just like the big plays. Mafia might just be sacrificing him here to save kp. I did this in my only game as mafia.

I also get more information by turning this landslide vote into something interesting to discuss im confident in my position as town in your eyes so its just the logical thing for me to start discussion and scum hunt oats.

Im still town reread the facts dont let mafia propaganda sway you. I cant post again so stop asking me to explain things that are already in my filter for another hour plz and letting mafia having an excuse to put dirt on me.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 16 2014 21:14 GMT
#3684
On December 17 2014 06:11 froggynoddy wrote:
I see. But if HF is town then it makes little sense for rit to go on Kelsier (I know I'm slow to the party...). Is rit+GB+HF scum team viable? Seems like super risky scum play to me.


-shrugs- It's a good question. I've already explained how it's possible, but it assumes both GB and rit are scum. If GB doesn't want HF to flip, and GB and rit are working together, then it's not a stretch that rit doesn't want HF to flip either. It is possible that they're all scum, anything's possible...but fighting like this seems like it would be hard to sustain this long.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 16 2014 21:17 GMT
#3685
On December 17 2014 06:14 froggynoddy wrote:
Well come to think of it. If Rit jumps on HF and HF flips town. Then Kelsier + Rit team is pretty much confirmed. Whilst if he goes on to Kelsier, then only Kelsier (who he knew would flip) is confirmed and Rit has time to make more moves.

Does that make sense?


I have posted this several times yes.
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 16 2014 21:17 GMT
#3686
On December 17 2014 06:14 froggynoddy wrote:
Well come to think of it. If Rit jumps on HF and HF flips town. Then Kelsier + Rit team is pretty much confirmed. Whilst if he goes on to Kelsier, then only Kelsier (who he knew would flip) is confirmed and Rit has time to make more moves.

Does that make sense?


I'd agree, my impression was that it was for town cred.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
December 16 2014 21:19 GMT
#3687
Also I'm pretty exhausted from driving so I'm just going to bed if nothing interesting is going to happen. Pretty sure ritoky will flip mafia, kind of weird some aren't even on him at all and especially weird to say give him more chance.
froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
December 16 2014 21:19 GMT
#3688
On December 17 2014 06:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 06:11 froggynoddy wrote:
I see. But if HF is town then it makes little sense for rit to go on Kelsier (I know I'm slow to the party...). Is rit+GB+HF scum team viable? Seems like super risky scum play to me.


-shrugs- It's a good question. I've already explained how it's possible, but it assumes both GB and rit are scum. If GB doesn't want HF to flip, and GB and rit are working together, then it's not a stretch that rit doesn't want HF to flip either. It is possible that they're all scum, anything's possible...but fighting like this seems like it would be hard to sustain this long.


I don't likt this logic. I think it would be quite easy to sustain a concerted argument as scum, you can pretty much rehearse it in QT no? If you can consider it possible for GB and rit working together then you to also have to consider GB and HF working together.

I personally think GB slightly more likley than HF if rit flips. But I think there might be others I want to look to first (like SL + Oats). I still think Templar looks bad.
'better still, a satisfied man'
froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
December 16 2014 21:20 GMT
#3689
On December 17 2014 06:17 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 06:14 froggynoddy wrote:
Well come to think of it. If Rit jumps on HF and HF flips town. Then Kelsier + Rit team is pretty much confirmed. Whilst if he goes on to Kelsier, then only Kelsier (who he knew would flip) is confirmed and Rit has time to make more moves.

Does that make sense?


I have posted this several times yes.


OK sorry. Am struggling to absorb everything in 1 + 2 bouts of reading per day.
'better still, a satisfied man'
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 16 2014 21:21 GMT
#3690
On December 17 2014 06:14 sicklucker wrote:
So I think im allowed one most post, im a little surprised no one knows why I dont mind voting out oats. Like 5-10 posts were about it so I know alot of you are not reading very well. If ritiky is mafia then he gave the kill present to a partner. Im fairly sure oats is mafia so its a chance to reduce kp, killing ritoky wont do this but its not a bad kill i just like the big plays. Mafia might just be sacrificing him here to save kp. I did this in my only game as mafia.

I also get more information by turning this landslide vote into something interesting to discuss im confident in my position as town in your eyes so its just the logical thing for me to start discussion and scum hunt oats.

Im still town reread the facts dont let mafia propaganda sway you. I cant post again so stop asking me to explain things that are already in my filter for another hour plz and letting mafia having an excuse to put dirt on me.


Lol, guilt by association. I don't think you're high on people's lynch list right now though, SL. Even if some of us probably do have doubts about you.

And I should have known this was a present thing again -_-. Either rit did or didn't open the present. The ks is either gone or he never actually knew what was in the present. So this entire line of reasoning you're on is pointless. -facepalms-
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
December 16 2014 21:37 GMT
#3691
On December 17 2014 06:19 froggynoddy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 06:14 rsoultin wrote:
On December 17 2014 06:11 froggynoddy wrote:
I see. But if HF is town then it makes little sense for rit to go on Kelsier (I know I'm slow to the party...). Is rit+GB+HF scum team viable? Seems like super risky scum play to me.


-shrugs- It's a good question. I've already explained how it's possible, but it assumes both GB and rit are scum. If GB doesn't want HF to flip, and GB and rit are working together, then it's not a stretch that rit doesn't want HF to flip either. It is possible that they're all scum, anything's possible...but fighting like this seems like it would be hard to sustain this long.


I don't likt this logic. I think it would be quite easy to sustain a concerted argument as scum, you can pretty much rehearse it in QT no? If you can consider it possible for GB and rit working together then you to also have to consider GB and HF working together.

I personally think GB slightly more likley than HF if rit flips. But I think there might be others I want to look to first (like SL + Oats). I still think Templar looks bad.


Like I said, I consider all of it possible. All three seems to be a stretch, but is also possible. None of this matters until we see how rit flips, though. I'm going to stop speculating about future scum until we know for sure which alignment rit is. Or someone starts shenanies, whichever happens, lol.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 16 2014 21:43 GMT
#3692
So, what happens if Ritoky flips town? Do you guys think HF is scum or town still? GB?
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 16 2014 21:45 GMT
#3693
On December 17 2014 06:19 froggynoddy wrote:
I personally think GB slightly more likley than HF if rit flips. But I think there might be others I want to look to first (like SL + Oats). I still think Templar looks bad.


What in particular reinforced your read of him? (since you said you still think...)

Also wrapped up your case Rasputin on GB....looking good. Couldn't find any issues.
At this point, let's just see what happens with Ritoky and take things from there.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 16 2014 21:46 GMT
#3694
If ritoky flips town I'm going with GB, you(tubesack), slam, SL

Hey ninjavoters, care to post?
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froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
December 16 2014 21:46 GMT
#3695
Hang on. Rit has to have opened the present as scum. If he passed it on and guessed then he had a 50% chance of being wrong right?? (that seems an incredibly risky play as scum does it not?).

No one had claimed getting the seer present at that time or am I being thick?

If he is scum and he opened the present then he would almost certainly have shot someone that night. 2 people died N2 so he was RB'ed by medic or he shot into a vet (or scum KP-ed into a vet).

I feel that the above scenario is the only one that makes sense if rit is scum. And I feel like there are too many iffs... why do I doubt like everything...

'better still, a satisfied man'
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 16 2014 21:47 GMT
#3696
Did slam post why he voted oats? I can't see it
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
December 16 2014 21:48 GMT
#3697
On December 17 2014 06:45 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 17 2014 06:19 froggynoddy wrote:
I personally think GB slightly more likley than HF if rit flips. But I think there might be others I want to look to first (like SL + Oats). I still think Templar looks bad.


What in particular reinforced your read of him? (since you said you still think...)

Also wrapped up your case Rasputin on GB....looking good. Couldn't find any issues.
At this point, let's just see what happens with Ritoky and take things from there.


I don't think its reinforced. I just think he has done nothing to dispell my earlier impression of appearing to help and being present in town discussions, without actually putting much content that genuinely helps town.
'better still, a satisfied man'
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
December 16 2014 21:49 GMT
#3698
I keep forgetting about templar, too. That's not good.
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
Half the Sky
Profile Joined May 2014
Germany9029 Posts
December 16 2014 21:50 GMT
#3699
On December 17 2014 06:47 Fecalfeast wrote:
Did slam post why he voted oats? I can't see it


Nothing on Oats at all his last few pages. Last post actually is:

On December 16 2014 02:33 Alakaslam wrote:
Froggynoddy to lynch


Few quotes before that he was going to vote Froggy but doesn't look like he ever did.
The phoenix must burn to emerge. - Janet Fitch
froggynoddy
Profile Joined February 2011
United Kingdom452 Posts
December 16 2014 21:52 GMT
#3700
Yeah, my reasoning on templar can pretty much be applied to slam. I just have no idea whether he is just insane...
'better still, a satisfied man'
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