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Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 19 2014 20:20 GMT
#4290
I'm here.

I have no problem voting HF or Templar. I don't think Templar has done anything towny. I think HF is mafia's ringleader still, and needs to flip one way or the other. We lynch Templar today, then I think we will spend the next three days arguing about HF and GB. If we lynch either HF or GB, then we will probably spend like 10 posts on lynching Templar. It doesn't sound like many people are towning him.

I don't understand why HF will argue for so long with Sicklucker if it isn't to set something up. HF said something like "Fine, I sent my present. Happy Birthday." And the donkey that I am thought he was talking to me since TL changed my icon to happy birthday. So, I thought it was a set up. Anyway, I don't really understand why HF won't say who he was talking to, but I also don't think it matters.

I still think HF, Sick, and Templar are scum. GlowingBear is looking scummier too, but I'm not quite willing to vote him yet over those other three.

Also, why do people think that everytime someone says "I'm sending a present" they are telling the truth? I don't think Sicklucker had a present to give Damdred. IT was just a nice cover to execute him.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 19 2014 20:33 GMT
#4292
On December 20 2014 05:26 Fecalfeast wrote:

If you don't think damdred died to a present, please outline the night kills in a way that makes sense.


I can't. I also don't think anyone can. It would require knowing the set up which is something none of us do with the exception of mafia.

It just seems awfully strange to me that people don't take into account that people can lie about sending/giving/receiving presents. None of it can be verified in anyway. Every bit of it is WIFOM.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 19 2014 20:42 GMT
#4296
On December 20 2014 05:38 rsoultin wrote:

xP Sorry Tube, no, I don't know that's what happened, but there's hardly a reason for scum not to try to get shots off on the first night, so it's likely that the ones with extra KSs did make kills.


I'm sorry, I don't see what we are disagreeing on. I also don't see a reason why mafia wouldn't kill as many as possible the first night. Or the second for that matter.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 19 2014 21:06 GMT
#4308
On December 20 2014 05:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2014 05:33 Tubesock wrote:
On December 20 2014 05:26 Fecalfeast wrote:

If you don't think damdred died to a present, please outline the night kills in a way that makes sense.


I can't. I also don't think anyone can. It would require knowing the set up which is something none of us do with the exception of mafia.

It just seems awfully strange to me that people don't take into account that people can lie about sending/giving/receiving presents. None of it can be verified in anyway. Every bit of it is WIFOM.


bolded is funny considering the response I got from other people


And each has different scenarios. How does that go against my argument that we can not possibly know?
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 19 2014 22:28 GMT
#4354
On December 20 2014 07:26 sicklucker wrote:
no ty


It's because he's mafia.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 19 2014 22:37 GMT
#4376
Sick, I just can't see how you are town. You should stick to your old guns. I'm a good lynch for the same reasons HF is. There is obviously too much doubt for either of us to live.

I'm either mafia or really donkey town. Sorry guys.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 19 2014 22:38 GMT
#4383
On December 20 2014 07:37 Xatalos wrote:
Btw I don't think Tubesock even voted yet? He might ninjavote closer to deadline.


My vote has been on Holyflare for quite some time. I will not move it unless it can get either HF or Templar lynched.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 19 2014 22:43 GMT
#4388
On December 20 2014 07:42 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 20 2014 07:40 rsoultin wrote:
Eh, I'm on the fence about Oats.

But since I'm scumreading GB and leaning scum on SL, anyone they want so desperately I'm reluctant to move to, to be frank.


And im scum reading alot of the people who are blindly following you. Id rather templar if we cant compromise. But hf you donkey...


He's not a donkey. He's the most productive player in this game. You'd done more damage to this game than even I have.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 19 2014 22:52 GMT
#4403
On December 20 2014 07:49 rsoultin wrote:
I may be having buyers' remorse here in about 12 minutes, I'll admit, however this is the most pushback I've gotten from my scumreads since the Templar wagon took place.

Plus almost all of my townreads are involved in it.

^^ So...if I'm wrong, Tube, sorry, bud. But I think this was the way to go.


No worries, I agree. I think lynching me ends some obvious confusion, and saves discussion at a later date. It's pretty much exactly why I am tunneling HF so much.

I do hope you look into Sicklucker more, and I hope I'm right that he's protection for his scum mates. Then that will lead you back to HF, hell it may strengthen your case on GB. I originally thought GB was the scum, but WIFOM'd myself into believing mafia was setting him up to be a mlynch since he kept acting so scummy while he "trapped" people.

Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 19 2014 22:57 GMT
#4409
On December 20 2014 07:56 GlowingBear wrote:
NO

YOU DON'T GET IT

HOLYFLARE IS STILL ALIVE AND IT'S DAY 4

SCUM DECIDED TO KILL KOSHI INSTEAD OF HF
SAMDRED INSTEAD OF HF

HOW THE FUCK YOU DON'T SEE IT?

HF IS A STRONG PLAYER AND IF MAFIA FEARED HIM HE WOULD BE SHOT
SHOT

THEY KILLED KOSHI, FUCKING KOSHI INSTEAD OF HOLYFLARE


Please think about this guys.
Tubesock
Profile Joined April 2011
United States2726 Posts
December 19 2014 22:59 GMT
#4419
Fecal, you make me want to shake babies.
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