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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 25 2014 12:48 GMT
#63
/in
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 25 2014 22:02 GMT
#100
On November 26 2014 03:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 03:30 marvellosity wrote:
On November 26 2014 03:01 Sn0_Man wrote:
probably
onegu was the scummer who ended up living through mylo
we lynched marv on the basis of "well the games going poorly so marv has to be scum"

that was Desert, rayn was town that game

I remember. He often tells the story of how he lynched you instead of some other dude that was confirmed scum to him. Sylencia I think.

That was the best day of my mafia life and no better will ever come.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 26 2014 07:07 GMT
#108
On November 26 2014 07:07 Sn0_Man wrote:
as previously mentioned, we literally lynched marv cuz the game wasn't going well

Not really...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 07:17 GMT
#297
##vote jat
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 07:21 GMT
#298
On November 27 2014 11:53 Elvis! wrote:
Obi - town since he's similair to last game and that's the best intel I have so far (even though it's still terribly weak).
Sent is mafai since he's complaining about people not being productive while he falls under his own critera. Again crazily weak argument, but an argument

Did you just cope breshke's post on sentinel from last game?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 07:24 GMT
#299
Also where does Sentinel complain?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 09:08 GMT
#301
Oh god...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 09:25 GMT
#305
jat do you seriously think there is any reason for you to defend yourself?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 10:45 GMT
#315
On November 27 2014 18:53 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 27 2014 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jat do you seriously think there is any reason for you to defend yourself?

A better question is this - what need was there for you to add a 3rd vote to a wagon on someone who hadn't posted yet?

Do *you* really believe that what HF said about jat makes him mafia?

lol what the.....?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 11:00 GMT
#319
Marv i'll be on a coffee break in 30min.
Until then explain my mafia motivation for my vote.
Same goes for jat.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 11:48 GMT
#348
The answer is more telling than the case is.
Last time i have seen jat play as scum something unexpected happened (i voted -- out of the blue -- marv for mayor and we, with Koshi, made a huge push on his scumbuddy who had pretty much no pressure on him). What happened is jat reacted really... i don't even know what to call it. Weirdly? In a way i wouldn't ever think anyone would react into something as either alignment.

I wanted to see what happens when there are vores on him, preferrably as much as possible, when he enters the thread. And the reaction was weird. There is nothing to say to the case. He just says he slept. He is either telling the truth or lying and noone can possibly tell the difference. Also hf is not the one to question. It should have been sentinel or me. He doesn't do that until marv points me out.

I think my vote is in a cool place.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 11:51 GMT
#350
EBWOP: because that kinda cases are traditional for holyflare.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 11:53 GMT
#352
Noow why didn't you, marv, consider this since you were in the game -- with about 20hours of IM's with me?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 11:54 GMT
#354
Anyways i am already late.
Laterzzz...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 11:56 GMT
#357
On November 27 2014 20:54 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 27 2014 20:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Noow why didn't you, marv, consider this since you were in the game -- with about 20hours of IM's with me?

I can't remember at all how jat reacted.

The thing I remember is basically leaving jat alone that game and letting other people deal with him. Pretty sure this could be verified with my filter there, doubt I said much in PMs to you about jat either

Hmm.. this could actually make sense since jat started mass pming me questioning our motives. I don't remember if we in fact talked about it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 13:52 GMT
#443
I'll dig my pm's when i am home, and the thread. I am 99% surecthat's not what happwned (like jat said), unless i correctly fabricated a scumread on him in that game -- as town.

Hey maev, you never answered me. Why was my vote scummy?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 14:32 GMT
#459
On November 27 2014 23:27 marvellosity wrote:
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On November 27 2014 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'll dig my pm's when i am home, and the thread. I am 99% surecthat's not what happwned (like jat said), unless i correctly fabricated a scumread on him in that game -- as town.

Hey maev, you never answered me. Why was my vote scummy?

my line of questioning was very clear

But you later on said you do not believe me and holyflare are both mafia.
Therefore, at that time there was at least one townie pushing jat.

Then your conclusion was "because i think at least one of them is town maube there is something they are seeing i am not". Why wasn't this your conclusion earlier, when you obviously didn't even know why i am voting for jat?
In addition, you didn't really answer my question.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 14:33 GMT
#460
On November 27 2014 23:29 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 22:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'll dig my pm's when i am home, and the thread. I am 99% surecthat's not what happwned (like jat said), unless i correctly fabricated a scumread on him in that game -- as town.

Hey maev, you never answered me. Why was my vote scummy?

also don't bother, you genuinely misremember things constantly.

I'll bother whatever i want to.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 14:34 GMT
#461
On November 27 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:
He is aggressive for the sake of being aggressive.

And that mqkes him mafia how?
That's what literally always does, especially as town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:10 GMT
#463
Yeah now i know why it was weird and it's not what i said.
It was because he kinda picked up his game when shit started hitting the fan. Which is apparently no more relevant as he can actually play scum really well.

##unvote

JAT still, i am not going to drop my notion that you over-reacted to HolyFlare's case. You should know better.
I also still want to know why you attacked Holyflare instead of me or Sentinel. You only attacked me after marv pointed out (something really stupid), and you NEVER said a thing about Sentinel's vote -- while the most common thing you do as town is probably asking "why".

So could you explain?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:21 GMT
#468
getripped could you explain why;
- there is a townread on Cava in your big post without any reasoning?
- there is a scumread on GlowingBear?
- you think Sentinel's snarky comment to you is townie?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:21 GMT
#469
On November 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 27 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 27 2014 23:18 justanothertownie wrote:
He is aggressive for the sake of being aggressive.

And that mqkes him mafia how?
That's what literally always does, especially as town.

Did I say it makes him mafia? No. Does he always do this as town? Hell no, certainly not in this way.

If it doesn't make him mafia what's the point of the post you made?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:22 GMT
#470
On November 28 2014 00:12 marvellosity wrote:
Past game not how rayn remembered it shocker

Don't piss me off...
You're not doing very well atm.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:33 GMT
#479
On November 28 2014 00:23 marvellosity wrote:
I'm doing extremely well.

Go fish in another pond, boy

Look. I do not know your alignment. Knowing if you are town or scum is probably the most important thing in this game before D2. Just because you act like a dick as mafia and slay out every single question directed to you back like you are above all the other people and you don't have to explain shit to them.

I also understand you do this as town aswell because obviously it doesn't help you find scum and it's "wasting your time" or whatever. But the fact is -- even if you are town -- then people like me will find you scummy, and while they probably cannot even get you lynched you are wasting THEIR time which could be used into something productive instead of having a shitfest with you (i happen to know this for a reason because it has happened before, and not even just once).

I don't know how did you reach to your conclusion because i don't understand the train of thought of yours regarding Holyflare's case, JAT, and me. So could you please explain it if you are town? It should not be hard for you.

Also how do you read geript?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:36 GMT
#481
On November 28 2014 00:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
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On November 28 2014 00:25 justanothertownie wrote:
But since you are so serius you might aswell explain yourself then.

I'm gonna rig your vote.

I wanna hear more from Elvis. His style is completely different from what I saw in Campus Mini (like someone else mentioned, absent are his walls of text) and that doesn't sit well in my gut. Kinda like Indian food.

I don't like Elvis because in the Campus game he was literally unable to give ANY townread ~2500 posts into the game when someone asked.

Now he had a townread, ~5 pages into the game. The guy is apparently paranoid as fuck, and therefore his reads (the scumread aswell) and the reasoning didn't sit well with me if compared to what he did in the last game.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:45 GMT
#484
Okay geript's filter is pretty lackluster in Survivor series.
Maybe i am just bad at reading him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:47 GMT
#485
I am curious JAT. Do you scumread Holyflare or not?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:50 GMT
#487
Also Superbia is town and anyone trying to lynch him will die in fire.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:52 GMT
#490
This is what i originally wrote about him in the Campus game:
My problem is the targets Superbia is proposing look really fucking good for me but otherwise his posting and activity -- compared to his earlier scum/town games does look way way way more like his scumplay. It's like he is more cocky and doesn't give any fucks about how he looks as town and in this game he seems more interested in how other people view him rather than convincing people his targets are mafia.

Applies here.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:54 GMT
#497
On November 28 2014 00:53 marvellosity wrote:
yes, still a ridiculous read. There's nothing townie in his filter.

Contentwise agreed.
Playstylewise 100% disagreed.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:56 GMT
#501
Like you cannot say that marv.
Go look at his past games. There is like a day and night difference in his scum/town play and it's easily notable regadless of what he says in his posts.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 15:57 GMT
#505
On November 28 2014 00:54 Sn0_Man wrote:
day 1's the worst why do i have to read all this shit

You argued for a non-weekend start and when you got it you don't wanna do anything?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 16:08 GMT
#510
I kinda want to kill GB but his post on Elvis is spot on so meh.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 16:20 GMT
#522
jat why didn't you vote for me when you said i was lying?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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November 27 2014 16:33 GMT
#538
On November 28 2014 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:
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On November 28 2014 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jat why didn't you vote for me when you said i was lying?

Marv was berating me that it wasn't scummy/I rarely vote early in the day anyways.

On the first part this sounds like you need to wait for marv to give his opinion before you can make a judgement call. Why?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 16:34 GMT
#540
On November 28 2014 01:21 Elvis! wrote:
GB so you think my posts are weird because:
-I'm trolling (in the first couple of pages)
-I'm giving out an early read which I didn't before.

Well superbia asked me what I think of these people.
If you remember, I disgust it if people refuse to answer questions and I read them scummy for it.
You know my usual style at the beginning is to wait for things to happen and then make big posts (expect one this evening, so approx. 3-5 hours from now).
I repeated a lot that my reads were weak, so you can see how uncomfortable I felt giving them since that's not a thing I deem good for town. It's okay for town to do these at the beginning to begin a discussion but it doesn't help all too much.

So you meta read me with nitpicking things that aren't even alignment indicative? Weird.

This should clear things up, will post things on scummy people later.

The real question is why do you give reads when you do not have reads?
If you do not have reads and someone asks you say "i don't have reads", no?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 16:38 GMT
#543
On November 28 2014 01:36 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 28 2014 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 28 2014 01:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 28 2014 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
jat why didn't you vote for me when you said i was lying?

Marv was berating me that it wasn't scummy/I rarely vote early in the day anyways.

On the first part this sounds like you need to wait for marv to give his opinion before you can make a judgement call. Why?

Are you really attacking me for respecting marvs opinion? What kind of bullshit line of questioning is this...

No i am not. You seemed to have a some sort of an opinion on couple of things, related to me.
Yet you could not lay them out before marv commented on them first. That has nothing to do with respecting / not respecting one's opinion.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 16:40 GMT
#546
Yeah so why did you not?
You are dodging the question.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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November 27 2014 16:42 GMT
#547
Anyways i am going off for a while.
I am getting angry because JAT is not giving clear answers to like anything in this game...
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 27 2014 22:09 GMT
#708
meh i fell asleep. seems like nothing much happened.
cya tomorrow which is when i am gonna get to a proper screen and to a place which is not work and where there is not at least three people around me.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 07:11 GMT
#958
I have a townread on wave which probably means he is scum.

If Palmar hasn't done anything when i get home from work i'll lynch him.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 07:16 GMT
#959
Meh.. i really don't like the fact Elvis failed to answer me while oosting and then got himself replaced.
Damdred you scum?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 09:15 GMT
#979
On November 28 2014 17:23 Holyflare wrote:
Still not gonna remove jat from my list no matter how much he whines though, he hasn't really done anything this game but qq defence and then just chat about nothing in particular.

This is how i feel aswell. It's -- for some reason -- impossible to make him talk about anything you want to.
It's like marv but worse.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 09:37 GMT
#999
I dunno hf. Are you trying to convince jat he is mafia?
I think everyone gets what you are saying so there is really no need to repeat it.

Could you look into elvis/damdred and tell me what you think?
Also do you think gb is mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 09:38 GMT
#1001
Well that settles one thing.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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November 28 2014 09:48 GMT
#1008
On November 28 2014 18:41 Holyflare wrote:
I also get annoyed with people that act like brick walls rayn you should know that

I know i do that too.

I agree on gb. I think he is scum but because his observation on elvis slot makes me hesitate. Ugh.. i think one of them is mafia and the other one town because they are my top scumreads besides jat.

Everyone else looks more or less town, except for Palmar who needs to die if he doesn't play.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 15:01 GMT
#1108
Koshi logic applies to damdred.
If he does say unsmart unrememberable stuff he is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 15:03 GMT
#1111
##vote Palmar
And i am not even home yet..
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 15:04 GMT
#1113
On November 29 2014 00:02 justanothertownie wrote:
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On November 29 2014 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Koshi logic applies to damdred.
If he does say unsmart unrememberable stuff he is mafia.

Damdred says unsmart stuff as town all the time.

Yes but there is some sort of logic of his own behind the stuff he says.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 19:25 GMT
#1369
On November 29 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I should add rayn to the list. If he doesn't show up soon I probably will. Ignoring his awful attack on me he produced 2 really weird and unexplained reads on superbia and damdred.

fuck you and i am here and reading.
yo uare scum because of this post in which everything is wrong in and you haven't done shit in this game besides one good observation on Superbia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 19:26 GMT
#1372
On November 29 2014 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I should add rayn to the list. If he doesn't show up soon I probably will. Ignoring his awful attack on me he produced 2 really weird and unexplained reads on superbia and damdred.

you srsly saying he doesn't do this as town? :>

yeah not to mention i explained both of the reads.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 19:36 GMT
#1378
JAT and Wave get massive angry points.

I am moving to a new apartment on Monday. I have lived at my friends place for the last week. There are at least three people around me all the time i am not sleeping or at work. Every single day i have found time to play this game (or last two days) -- at every single break i have at work, and every single night when it's possible. I just drove 450km to pack my stuff ready for Sunday when i am driving back. Yeah i think i should be doing the packing right now so i can actually do it in time. But hey, here i am again. And then pretty much the first thing i find out some idiot has nerve to call me scum for "lurking".

No, this is not a defense. This is because i am pissed off. Especially coming from two guys who have wasted at least 24h of this day into saying ONLY useless shit.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 19:38 GMT
#1381
On November 29 2014 04:27 justanothertownie wrote:
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On November 29 2014 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 29 2014 01:57 marvellosity wrote:
On November 29 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Maybe I should add rayn to the list. If he doesn't show up soon I probably will. Ignoring his awful attack on me he produced 2 really weird and unexplained reads on superbia and damdred.

you srsly saying he doesn't do this as town? :>

yeah not to mention i explained both of the reads.

You said superbias playstyle is different and damdred has his "own logic". That's hardly an explanation.

There is nothing else to say.

I told marv to go look because i don't bother to explain my townreads. Apparently YOU FOUND THAT OUT WHEN YOU WENT LOOKING?!!?!? lol

Damdred in unmemorable as mafia. That's the thing. There is literally nothing else to explain. He is unmemorable this game. He is probably mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 19:39 GMT
#1384
Sno is town.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 19:42 GMT
#1392
Murder Palmar he had time earlier today.
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raynpelikoneet
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November 28 2014 19:42 GMT
#1393
On November 29 2014 04:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Sno is town.

Ok. Please explain.

no.
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Profile Joined April 2007
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November 28 2014 19:47 GMT
#1404
On November 29 2014 03:43 justanothertownie wrote:
And what also weirds me out is that you think rayn cared in that game because I don't agree with that at all.

Now this is a good point.
My team was fucking awful (sorry for everyone who were on that team for me saying this but it's true) and i didn't read maybe more than 10 posts in that game.

I mean, they even failed to shoot Holyflare who was obvious vigilante. I have never cared as little about aNY game than i did that game so Wave is talking out of his ass.

More scumpoints to Wave.
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November 28 2014 19:49 GMT
#1406
##unvote
##vote Waveofshadow


He is mafia.
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November 28 2014 19:51 GMT
#1410
Wave's reasons for scumreading me are UTTER SHIT and PROVABLY completely wrong.
Just because i do not post for 6 hours he decides to take a route where he switches discussion to me (while NEVER bringing up anything about my "carelessness" in this game up before) and push me as a lynch.

mafiamafiamafia!!!
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November 28 2014 19:54 GMT
#1414
On November 29 2014 04:38 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT and Wave get massive angry points.

I am moving to a new apartment on Monday. I have lived at my friends place for the last week. There are at least three people around me all the time i am not sleeping or at work. Every single day i have found time to play this game (or last two days) -- at every single break i have at work, and every single night when it's possible. I just drove 450km to pack my stuff ready for Sunday when i am driving back. Yeah i think i should be doing the packing right now so i can actually do it in time. But hey, here i am again. And then pretty much the first thing i find out some idiot has nerve to call me scum for "lurking".

No, this is not a defense. This is because i am pissed off. Especially coming from two guys who have wasted at least 24h of this day into saying ONLY useless shit.

Well, I assumed you would have time when you said you would go after Palmar when you are done working. Sue me.

I literally wrote "i am not even home yet".
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raynpelikoneet
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November 28 2014 19:54 GMT
#1419
On November 29 2014 04:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave's reasons for scumreading me are UTTER SHIT and PROVABLY completely wrong.
Just because i do not post for 6 hours he decides to take a route where he switches discussion to me (while NEVER bringing up anything about my "carelessness" in this game up before) and push me as a lynch.

mafiamafiamafia!!!

lol now this feels like town rayn.
Seems like I had to kinda provoke it out of him but meh.

So do you or do you not scumread me for "not caring"?
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November 28 2014 20:01 GMT
#1429
On November 29 2014 04:54 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:49 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##unvote
##vote Waveofshadow


He is mafia.

No. Go read Damdred. We're not lynching Wave today. Hes not a good lynch. Look at his interactions w/ me and Marv last night.

I have read Damdred. His reads are opportunistic and weird and nothing he says really makes those people mafia because:
1) What he says about GB is characteristical to his townplay aswell.
2) What he says about Sent is not scummy for Sent. In fact Sentinel could possibly draw attention to himself by acting like that. Doesn't make him town, but doesn't make him scum aswell. Especially his vote on JAT which would probably mean JAT is scum aswell in case Sentinel is scum because he likes to vote for his scumbuddies ALOT!
3) Sno hardly ever does anything useful on D1 and always looks scummy. Except for when he is mafia.

So, really bad reads and he is probably scum but what Wave said is 1000x more scummy.
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November 28 2014 20:03 GMT
#1430
On November 29 2014 04:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:38 justanothertownie wrote:
On November 29 2014 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
JAT and Wave get massive angry points.

I am moving to a new apartment on Monday. I have lived at my friends place for the last week. There are at least three people around me all the time i am not sleeping or at work. Every single day i have found time to play this game (or last two days) -- at every single break i have at work, and every single night when it's possible. I just drove 450km to pack my stuff ready for Sunday when i am driving back. Yeah i think i should be doing the packing right now so i can actually do it in time. But hey, here i am again. And then pretty much the first thing i find out some idiot has nerve to call me scum for "lurking".

No, this is not a defense. This is because i am pissed off. Especially coming from two guys who have wasted at least 24h of this day into saying ONLY useless shit.

Well, I assumed you would have time when you said you would go after Palmar when you are done working. Sue me.

I literally wrote "i am not even home yet".

Which to me indicated you would be home later?!

I am puzzled. You knew i was not ready to play yet but you still wanted to add me into your scumpile because i promised to play but didn't?

Is this what you are saying?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 20:05 GMT
#1434
Wave go compare Cultured game to this one and to my "totally more caring scumgame".
Tell me what you find out. You have 10 minutes.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 20:09 GMT
#1439
On November 29 2014 05:05 marvellosity wrote:
rayn I don't really want to lynch Wave today. I think Damdred is the right lynch, I have nothing to add to reasons already given by you and others.

##Vote: Damdred

Game v hard because struggling to pick 3 mafia

Dude!!

He is trying to argue i am not caring about this game!! He is arguing i am not caring about this game MORE than i was in a game i have given LESS FUCKS THAN ANY MAFIA GMAE EVER!

He has done research and come to that conclusion, otherwise he cannot even say that.

SERIOUSLY?!?! That is so fucking bullshit i have never seen anything like that. NEVER.
Please, you were in the very same game. Do you think i am not caring about this game? Do you think i am caring LESS than i did in FFL2?

Do you think wave, as town, doesn't say anything about this until i have "lurked" for 6 hours? It's not like me not posting for 6 hours makes my WHOLE PLAY INT THIS GAME "not caring at all". Why didn't he say that earlier? Right, because he got an "opportunity" to do so as i was away.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 20:11 GMT
#1442
On November 29 2014 05:10 marvellosity wrote:
maybe. but maybe he's being bad.

yeah and he makes terrible cases as mafia as he fucking said himself.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 20:17 GMT
#1450
On November 29 2014 05:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:05 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave go compare Cultured game to this one and to my "totally more caring scumgame".
Tell me what you find out. You have 10 minutes.

Not entertaining your shit rayn. It's nice you're back and playing but you can go and bite someone else's head off for a while.

I am asking you to back up your read because in Cultured game -- which you happened to play in i "lurked" the whole second half of D1 and ended up sheeping Holyflare on suki while i was "sure" Mocsta is mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 20:17 GMT
#1452
On November 29 2014 05:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
I wonder if rayn remembers the veeeeery first game we played together

probably PYP Broadwalk Empire or Desert Mini mafia?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 20:22 GMT
#1466
On November 29 2014 05:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
I wonder if rayn remembers the veeeeery first game we played together

probably PYP Broadwalk Empire or Desert Mini mafia?

no it was before that
u tunneled town wos mega ultra super hard with koshi riding ur nuts

I tried to defend wos as hard as i could
wos flipped town
we almost fuckign lost and I was 1000000% sure u were scum cuz wos was obivously town but you forced his lynch anyway

was it the game where he was a cop?
(also the game i completely solved on N2 and everyone sheeped me to sweet victory)
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 20:25 GMT
#1471
On November 29 2014 05:21 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 05:19 Sn0_Man wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 29 2014 05:12 Sn0_Man wrote:
I wonder if rayn remembers the veeeeery first game we played together

probably PYP Broadwalk Empire or Desert Mini mafia?

no it was before that
u tunneled town wos mega ultra super hard with koshi riding ur nuts

I tried to defend wos as hard as i could
wos flipped town
we almost fuckign lost and I was 1000000% sure u were scum cuz wos was obivously town but you forced his lynch anyway

Rayn can't read me, Sn0. He's never been able to, and then he goes crazy attacking me while I attempt to defend myself and it turns into a day-long ordeal where he eventually comes around for no particular reason and certainly not because of anything I said.

I just ignore him when he does this now. It seems to work pretty nicely.

Then defend yourself. Tell me how my play is different from Cultured?
It is a simple fucking question.

Here, i give you three relevant quotes from that game:
On February 27 2014 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote:
For once in my life i am gonna be a fucking sheep.

On February 28 2014 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote:
##Vote: suki
I'll be back before deadline if i wake up.

On February 28 2014 10:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I DIDN'T EVEN CARE AND VOTED FOR MAFIA GODFATHER! LOL!

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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 20:32 GMT
#1480
Also what you just said Wave is garbage and really annoys me because for the last some months i have tried to be really nice to people and not shit things up but it's impossible with you because what you always do is say some dumb provocative shit to me and then, when i call you scum for your dumb shit your response is like "oh noes here we go again" while YOU have done that all by yourself, every single time, just because you refuse to talk to me like a human being.

Yes, lately i have reduced the amount of angry towards someone -> he is mafia (like it used to be regarding you).
Last game i played with you you did the same shit you are pulling off now, you were mafia. I laid back because i somehow compared that to your other games and it looked the same. It was dumb. What you are trying to argue here, in this game, is extremely dumb. It is not true. You know it. That's why you are mafia. You didn't say that before. You would have said so when you started playing if you had felt so -- as town. That's why you are mafia.

The last paragraph was to everyone.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 20:53 GMT
#1532
marv:

I voted Wave based on this:
On August 22 2014 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh it WAS Wave. Wave explain the question you asked. Why?
Show nested quote +
If you had to pick a scummer based on people who have posted right now, who and why?

Glowingbear explain why you answered the question when you do not even think KSC is necessarily mafia?

I think you get why this is scummy as fuck?

Anyways here is how he responded:
On August 22 2014 21:41 WaveofShadow wrote:
[...]

Now Rayn i'll tell you why you're voting for me.
Because a) you do it in the beginning of every game regardless of my alignment
b) you enjoy playing dumbass mindgames. Why you need that to show you Hapa's alignment is truly puzzling honestly. All hapa needs to do is like post twice and he's an open book.

[...]

and for some time later on...
On August 22 2014 22:38 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2014 22:35 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 22 2014 17:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Wave explain the question you asked. Why?
If you had to pick a scummer based on people who have posted right now, who and why?


Show nested quote +

Now as for why I ask questions? 'Cause I do it every game and I like doing it. In this case I had already offered an answer to my own question myself earlier (thought damdred looked scummy earlier) and I wanted to see if people could attempt to commit to something this early in the game/gauge some thoughts.

Not to mention, of course, to try and blatantly get some reads from people.
You should probably read the rest of that post too because it should answer you questions, but of course it won't.
I hate your nitpicky bullshit because now you're going to harp on it for the next 18 hours until you have an aneurysm and then magically forget about it/don't care anymore.


Like i can't call him mafia in any game because i have misread him.
These posts in that particular game made me somehow think he is town.
But look at the first post. The question is just as fucking stupid than his "case" on me is right now. Which isn't really a case at all because he is not even voting for me.

marv, please. One thing. Compare Wave's attitude early game and this moment.
He doesn't give any fucks. Then he is really "productive and helpful. Now he apparently doesn't give any fucks. He just wants to sheep you. In between he made a case which was awful. Fuck i hate myself for not being able to explain myself clearly....

I can't explain it. I just can't because i don't know the proper words. He is playing from mafia mindset because he is doing shit when shit needs to be done. But the shit is bad. But it's okay because it's on rayn and other people just don't wanna read the shitfest which is gonna happen anyways.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 20:54 GMT
#1536
On November 29 2014 05:43 Damdred wrote:
Sucks replacing in.

On phone,

Rayn might be scum here honestly. His early vote on jat for reasons is strange for him and the follow up to it is ok enough but his play besides that has been lackluster and he thinks I'm scum but would rather have a fight and look active then push his scum suspect right now in a way to get him lynched.


second worst post in this thread.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 20:58 GMT
#1542
maybe even death miller?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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November 28 2014 20:59 GMT
#1543
is the deadline in 1h?
my tl time is never correct and i hate it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 21:00 GMT
#1547
sno are you set on sheeping marv on D1?
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November 28 2014 21:00 GMT
#1550
On November 29 2014 05:59 GlowingBear wrote:
Damdred will flip town and you're all stupid for that.

why and who do we lynch then?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 21:04 GMT
#1560
you don't feel he is town and we should not lynch him?
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 21:05 GMT
#1563
there is plenty of time left.
i only have to convince marv and shit happens.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 21:07 GMT
#1568
also GB why are you even saying this.
Who do you think i will vote if not Wave?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
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November 28 2014 21:52 GMT
#1644
On November 29 2014 06:45 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know if i exactly want to lynch wave when he isn't here based on him refusing to answer rayn because that's happened in this game before.

To someone looking into the ffl2 game if you just read rayns filter i assume it doesn't look that bad, it's only if you were in the game do you realise how little he cared.

Then why does he not take account my towngames?
I pointed out a towngame i did not care.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 22:04 GMT
#1650
On November 29 2014 06:53 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 06:52 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On November 29 2014 06:45 Holyflare wrote:
I don't know if i exactly want to lynch wave when he isn't here based on him refusing to answer rayn because that's happened in this game before.

To someone looking into the ffl2 game if you just read rayns filter i assume it doesn't look that bad, it's only if you were in the game do you realise how little he cared.

Then why does he not take account my towngames?
I pointed out a towngame i did not care.


He was just told to look at one game?

Ehhh... that's not how you meta and you know it.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 22:05 GMT
#1651
He wasn't pointed out to look at anything. He did it himself.
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Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 22:27 GMT
#1678
Why can't you just vote for wave, marv?
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
November 28 2014 22:34 GMT
#1689
I wanna vote for html.
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raynpelikoneet
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November 28 2014 22:35 GMT
#1691
Also i am afraid damd is town.
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raynpelikoneet
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November 28 2014 22:37 GMT
#1698
Lets murder wave.
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November 28 2014 22:41 GMT
#1715
On November 29 2014 07:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Lets murder wave.

Not yolo he is mafia.
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November 28 2014 23:25 GMT
#1777
Mehh.. wave.
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November 28 2014 23:27 GMT
#1778
Fuck this doesn't even tell much.
The votecount i mean.
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November 29 2014 01:22 GMT
#1792
Wos am i scum or not?
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2014 02:09 GMT
#1799
On November 29 2014 09:12 WaveofShadow wrote:
Though ts

Superb could be scum. Not for the fact that he pushed GB all day and got a towny lynched but because his vote never wavered once and he never questioned anything.

Not a fan of HF's end of day GB push either... He was pretty active about it though rather then just simply letting it go through so that's something to think about I guess.

JAT jumps on directly after marv..

Do you fucking read me scum or not?
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raynpelikoneet
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November 29 2014 02:10 GMT
#1800
Don't give me some probable shit.
Give me answers. with reasoning.
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raynpelikoneet
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November 29 2014 02:12 GMT
#1801
yes or no i enough.

if i was good enough to draw i would draw you sucking on a walls dick.
fucking awful.
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raynpelikoneet
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Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2014 02:13 GMT
#1803
I hope you die.
I know you die.
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November 29 2014 02:13 GMT
#1805
AND THIS IS ALSO IN REAL LIFE JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE A FUCKING ASSHAT!
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Finland43268 Posts
November 29 2014 02:14 GMT
#1807
so yeah. go die in rl wos.
go. die.
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November 29 2014 02:14 GMT
#1808
On November 29 2014 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Aww, so sweet.
Anything else?

yes i am off.
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raynpelikoneet
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November 29 2014 02:15 GMT
#1810
i was and have been nice to all other ppl but this shitfaceidiot cannot comply.
so die. you shitfaceidiot.
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November 29 2014 02:16 GMT
#1811
On November 29 2014 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Anything else to say?

die you shitfaceidiot.
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November 29 2014 02:21 GMT
#1815
On November 29 2014 11:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Rayn go to sleep it's 4 AM and you're drunk

agreed. doesn't change the fact.
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November 29 2014 02:23 GMT
#1816
shitface
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November 29 2014 08:35 GMT
#1837
Sentinel why is it possible i am mafia?
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November 29 2014 08:39 GMT
#1838
Like i have no idea how you go from this:
On November 29 2014 10:34 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 10:32 WaveofShadow wrote:
I've never been a vig.
Always wanted to be.

I replaced into a game and fired a nuke hours later in Nuclear Winter and hit scum. My hunches tend to be right most of the time.

My current hunches are:
Damdy
JAT/geript, one of the two
??? <- haven't thought of one here, because I'd never have that many bullets as vig anyway.

to this:
On November 29 2014 15:51 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I'm trying to pick who's the scummier between rayn and Palmar. The latter I feel might be a candidate, but the last time I only figured out he was scum through deductive reasoning and that involved me trying to start a suicide wagon on myself a few hours out of day 1.

Maybe we can do that again. ShiaoPi is a good host and allows self voting.

Inbetween you accuse geript of something. Which is neither correct nor scummy.
Then, when you've been corrected, you throw out one of me/Palmar being mafia, or at least scummy?!?!?
Where did JAT go?
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raynpelikoneet
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November 29 2014 08:54 GMT
#1839
meh JAT has 14 pages of filter so he has to be town.
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December 03 2014 19:56 GMT
#3364
I gotta stop playing for awhile again.
I had fun when it was fun to play.
gg town.
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raynpelikoneet
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December 03 2014 19:59 GMT
#3366
..geript i read your big post.
i am really sorry i wanted to play well in this game and win against whoever in case i rolled mafia.
I just can't play with Wave. I just can't. It's impossible.

sorry.
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December 03 2014 20:02 GMT
#3367
And yes FF that would be right.
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December 03 2014 22:09 GMT
#3369
I was fucking fed up with you not doing anything Palmar.
I hope i never roll mafia with you again tbh.
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December 03 2014 22:15 GMT
#3370
Also i am never going to believe Waveofshadow had reasonable reasons to sub out.
Just because he did that.. right after i got modkilled.
haha. ^^
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December 03 2014 22:25 GMT
#3372
On December 04 2014 07:17 Holyflare wrote:
he did rayn

so apparently everyone else knows it other than me. why?
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December 03 2014 22:27 GMT
#3374
t_T
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