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On November 25 2014 02:24 WaveofShadow wrote: Trying to get one of jat/hf/marv lynched seems like way too much effort, and being on a scum team against that is also more effort than I think I want to give. rofl | ||
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On November 26 2014 01:37 marvellosity wrote: what an excellent playerlist yup  | ||
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On November 26 2014 03:30 marvellosity wrote: that was Desert, rayn was town that game I remember. He often tells the story of how he lynched you instead of some other dude that was confirmed scum to him. Sylencia I think. | ||
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On November 26 2014 23:35 Palmar wrote: If you fail to meet the expected activity standards set by your earlier performances, I will policy lynch you. Not if I policy lynch you first for trying to policy lynch me. On November 27 2014 00:08 marvellosity wrote: I might go for the controversial play to win strat :OOOOOO | ||
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You have no power here, scrub. | ||
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Well, at least one third of that team would be demotivated ^_^ | ||
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On November 27 2014 04:35 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Pls Lynches are decided by the people who count the votes, not by the people who make them Your point? | ||
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On November 27 2014 08:51 Holyflare wrote: only time he can't make deadlines are weekends deadline is really really nice where is jat? answer is mafialand qqing that he rolled mafia in here with a full time job On November 27 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote: how do I not have a case on either? One player said the deadlines were PERFECT for him and then didn't turn up when ordinarily he'd be enthusiastic about the game starting and at least post something. Another player literally didn't want to comment on anything I said and has only talked about russia (which is fine on its own) but he was all defensive when I told him to comment on it or he was next 1) Since when am I afraid to post as scum? Horseshit. The lineup in heavyweight wasn't really that much worse than this one. 2) If I was there in the mafia qt why would I not simply post something in the thread. Ah, I forgot. Cos I'm afraid... 3) I wasn't around for game start in several of my towngames. The only thing you can conclude from that is that I am absent/asleep whatever. Yes, I said the deadline is nice for me. Because it is. Often times deadline is much later than this midnight deadline for me. It makes it possible to stay up when it gets important but I don't see why you think I would keep myself awake after midnight just for the start of the game. On November 27 2014 10:27 Holyflare wrote: not when role pm's get sent out an hour early because that's a whole hour of a mafia pm being left to sink in and so he'd just give up and go to bed early at rolling mafia in this probably stacked game i'm almost positive the first message in the qt is like "we're so fucked" look at your response, i ask you to comment on something you are reluctant but end up doing it anyway look at his response, i ask him to comment on it and he gives a VERY generic "i dont vote on ANYONE EVER early" response and then criticises me and leaves what good natured towny wants to shut down any productive discussion even if it's misplaced? the answer is no good natured towny ever I am not believing for a second that this is your read on me. On November 27 2014 11:11 Holyflare wrote: no it's irrelevant because unless all the vets are mafia they will be against some vets and therefore be fucked if i was mafia with marv/me/wave or w/e i would still say fuck this shit as soon as i entered and be super demotivated and i probably would have just gone to bed, heck just look at all the pre-game hype about people wanting to not roll mafia the "we're fucked" thing is totally not the point I am making at all it was just to counter obi's trivial point about jat being motivated to post as mafia when that wouldn't probably be the case at all with pm's an hour+ before deadlines I also don't believe this at all. So Holyflare is pushing something that isn't scummy really hard here. If he keeps doing that then he is probably mafia by his own selfmeta. Oh, btw. don't you think that is much more scummy to be here in the thread without posting anything even remotely useful than to be completely absent? Like marv did for example? | ||
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On November 27 2014 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote: Here I can post and you can focus on my awkward entrance instead. Also was the most recent Olympics not the most glorious ever? I remember Wave opening similar as scum. On November 27 2014 09:00 marvellosity wrote: as cases on someone who hasn't posted go, it's pretty good. Explain. | ||
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On November 27 2014 18:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: jat do you seriously think there is any reason for you to defend yourself? For my survival? No. To show that HF is pushing something that isn't alignment indicative as scummy? Yes. I called out 2 specific things that I have trouble seeing HF believe. Do you think that what HF would be afraid of posting as scum? Do you think HF believes that I would be afraid? If the answer to that is no then the whole push is bullshit. The only question that remains is if HF made an awful push to get discussion going as town or if he just wants to seem tryhard and active as scum. | ||
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On November 27 2014 18:53 marvellosity wrote: A better question is this - what need was there for you to add a 3rd vote to a wagon on someone who hadn't posted yet? Do *you* really believe that what HF said about jat makes him mafia? Also answer this. | ||
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On November 27 2014 19:24 marvellosity wrote: Further, if rayn thinks there's no need for you to defend yourself, jat, then the logical conclusion is that he believes there's nothing to defend against, in which case his vote shouldn't be on you. Exactly. | ||
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On November 27 2014 20:34 GlowingBear wrote: I understand your mafia motivation to shoot usImplying you think rayn is town? | ||
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On November 27 2014 20:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: The answer is more telling than the case is. Last time i have seen jat play as scum something unexpected happened (i voted -- out of the blue -- marv for mayor and we, with Koshi, made a huge push on his scumbuddy who had pretty much no pressure on him). What happened is jat reacted really... i don't even know what to call it. Weirdly? In a way i wouldn't ever think anyone would react into something as either alignment. I wanted to see what happens when there are vores on him, preferrably as much as possible, when he enters the thread. And the reaction was weird. There is nothing to say to the case. He just says he slept. He is either telling the truth or lying and noone can possibly tell the difference. Also hf is not the one to question. It should have been sentinel or me. He doesn't do that until marv points me out. I think my vote is in a cool place. How about this - you explain my "weird reaction". I don't remember reacting weird in that game either. On November 27 2014 20:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hmm.. this could actually make sense since jat started mass pming me questioning our motives. I don't remember if we in fact talked about it. Bold faced lie. I never masspmed anyone in that game. The player who got the most pms from me was marv and they weren't many. On November 27 2014 20:05 Holyflare wrote: You spent all of your time commenting on something that you don't know the motive of instead of commenting on the rest of the game/my posts. That doesn't particularly enthuse me. You expect me to have a read on you a few hours into day1? lol | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:04 marvellosity wrote: In rayn's defence, JAT, he often misremembers how events occurred in past games. I've noticed it several times before. That's a pretty big thing to misremember. | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:02 GlowingBear wrote: Nah, implying the only way marv could be wanting to shoot me is from a mafia perspective Fine. What IS your read on rayn though? | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:05 Holyflare wrote: So it was quite irrelevant when we've been talking about you Being a joke doesn't make it irrelevant and the discussion about me isn't productive anyways. Apart from the fact that rayn is just openly lying right now. | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:06 marvellosity wrote: you might think so, but it fits his "narrative" if you like. Like with what I siad, it would be a pretty stupid thing to purposefully lie about, because you can verify it's veracity by looking at your inbox, and he'd be forced to mass forge some PMs or something. it would be a totally pointless lie to make on purpose Yeah? I am the only one who knows he is lying though. | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:07 Holyflare wrote: I mean you return to the thread see us continuing to talk about you, rayn posting "lies" or whatever and the first thing you do is comment on that. It just looks like you wanted to try and do a joke post to fit in My post wasn't a joke?! | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:09 marvellosity wrote: and he'd know you'd know he was lying stop being silly So what you are saying is that I shouldn't be bothered about rayn lying about something that I cannot disprove in the thread to push me as scummy? Whatever. I will be back later. | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:11 Holyflare wrote: ....... You know it's a joke post but you responded with a super serious "so rayn is town" post...? If you know it's a joke post that response didn't fit in the slightest It's not like mafia only slip when they aren't joking - but that is not the point. Am I not allowed to question GB about his reads? What you are doing right now is asinine if you are town. | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:28 Holyflare wrote: Yeh no shit he shouldn't be. JAT is saying he is though so it's a narrative for him. Not you or I. FIrst you say I am scummy for not "jumping all over that shit" now I am scummy for thinking rayn is scummy. Cool fucking story bro. | ||
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Subject: Re: ... Date: 1/12/14 00:31 Hm, ok. I am curious if he will start a campaign at some point... he said he might. Original Message From raynpelikoneet: I've been talking with marv in irc for about last 10hours or so. he seems pretty town to me. Hide nested quote - Original Message From justanothertownie: What do you think of marv? I think he would be the best mayor tbh but I didn't get the strong town feeling I usually have about him yet. You are the only realistic candidate who I really have a townread on so I will probably vote you if nothing changes. This is literally our whole pm conversation in that game. #masspming | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:33 marvellosity wrote: like I seriously can't be fucked to be a mediator all game long, so can we just not do whatever all of this is. Fine. I have no intention to drag this out either. I don't have that much time to spent on this game and I won't waste it by talking about myself from now on. HF and rayn are doing a good job at annoying the hell out of me though. | ||
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On November 27 2014 21:36 marvellosity wrote: see that wasn't so hard. now why would rayn lie on purpose when you could just do that? I thought that would be against the rules for some reason. | ||
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On November 27 2014 23:11 GlowingBear wrote: There was serious discussion going on. Nonetheless, it was a bad one since you can't get someone's alignment from that. The thread has stopped motion and I tried to gather information. What's happening with you HF? You're pushing things that are silly to push since the beginning to the game Yes. In a very nitpicky manner. | ||
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On November 27 2014 23:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: And that mqkes him mafia how? That's what literally always does, especially as town. Did I say it makes him mafia? No. Does he always do this as town? Hell no, certainly not in this way. | ||
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On November 28 2014 00:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yeah now i know why it was weird and it's not what i said. It was because he kinda picked up his game when shit started hitting the fan. Which is apparently no more relevant as he can actually play scum really well. ##unvote JAT still, i am not going to drop my notion that you over-reacted to HolyFlare's case. You should know better. I also still want to know why you attacked Holyflare instead of me or Sentinel. You only attacked me after marv pointed out (something really stupid), and you NEVER said a thing about Sentinel's vote -- while the most common thing you do as town is probably asking "why". So could you explain? HF seemed serious and was the only one trying to justify a vote on a 0 poster. Sentinels vote looked to me like he was just rolling with his "joke" about rigging my vote. | ||
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On November 28 2014 00:21 raynpelikoneet wrote: If it doesn't make him mafia what's the point of the post you made? There is no point. It is just really annoying me. | ||
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On November 28 2014 00:24 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I like how "joke" is in quotations because you know I'm serious "serious" | ||
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On November 28 2014 00:30 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: I'm gonna rig your vote. I wanna hear more from Elvis. His style is completely different from what I saw in Campus Mini (like someone else mentioned, absent are his walls of text) and that doesn't sit well in my gut. Kinda like Indian food. Such a funny guy. | ||
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On November 28 2014 00:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Look. I do not know your alignment. Knowing if you are town or scum is probably the most important thing in this game before D2. Just because you act like a dick as mafia and slay out every single question directed to you back like you are above all the other people and you don't have to explain shit to them. I also understand you do this as town aswell because obviously it doesn't help you find scum and it's "wasting your time" or whatever. But the fact is -- even if you are town -- then people like me will find you scummy, and while they probably cannot even get you lynched you are wasting THEIR time which could be used into something productive instead of having a shitfest with you (i happen to know this for a reason because it has happened before, and not even just once). I don't know how did you reach to your conclusion because i don't understand the train of thought of yours regarding Holyflare's case, JAT, and me. So could you please explain it if you are town? It should not be hard for you. Also how do you read geript? Anyone scumreading marv for acting like that has no idea how to play this game. Just let him do his thing and his alignment will probably be somewhat obvious before D2. Geript looks rather towny to me btw. he is also tryharding but his posts feel more genuine than HFs. I don't really think that he would write "I am the second best townplayer in this game and will be a deciding factor" as mafia for example however wrong I may think he is with that. | ||
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On November 28 2014 00:53 marvellosity wrote: yes, still a ridiculous read. There's nothing townie in his filter. Is there something scummy? I just read it btw. | ||
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On November 28 2014 00:54 Sn0_Man wrote: day 1's the worst why do i have to read all this shit You call a thread of 25 pages that contains a lot of pre game banter "all this shit"?! What did you expect? | ||
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On November 28 2014 00:53 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: He seemed quite a bit defensive when I half-joked that I would lynch him to reduce the number of posts I have to read. Does town Holyflare normally have that kind of character? I haven't played with him recently, to the extent of my knowledge I don't really remember what exactly you are talking about right now but yes, town HF gets defensive which makes his attack against me even more ridiculous btw. | ||
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On November 28 2014 00:55 marvellosity wrote: not particularly, other than the post i commented about when talking about my Obi townread. It's very nothing, which would be scummy later but he was only around at the start. Nothing in there to justify a "burn with fire if you lynch this townie" read from rayn though. Fair. | ||
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On November 28 2014 00:57 justanothertownie wrote: I don't really remember what exactly you are talking about right now but yes, town HF gets defensive which makes his attack against me even more ridiculous btw. Actually... which game was it where he got really defensive because people attacked him, I noted that and marv said to me that being defensive there was only natural. I don't remember which game it was and if he was town or scum in it. Marv? | ||
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Cool. You can die then. | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:06 Sn0_Man wrote: As far as I'm aware everybody *can* die in this particular game. I fail to see the value to that statement. Anyway, teh way I see it i'm at a disadvantage reads-wise bcuz I lack recent meta (or any meta) experience with a large amount of the players here. So I'm in absolutely no rush. Oh, you don't have to rush. If you fail to produce anything until deadline I might lynch you though. | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:15 Sn0_Man wrote: obi's TLDR here is "lurking totes doesn't make me scum. brb lurking" Yes. Impressive observation right there. | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:17 marvellosity wrote: sorry jat, i can't remember Makes fun of rayn for bad memory. Doesn't remember his own games. | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote: jat why didn't you vote for me when you said i was lying? Marv was berating me that it wasn't scummy/I rarely vote early in the day anyways. | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:22 marvellosity wrote: ##Vote: WaveofShadow I'm bored. Good idea. Would be even better if your target was there to respond to the pressure though. | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:26 GlowingBear wrote: Aww don't make me search for it... Fanfic? I think fanfic. You mostly post big lists Shouldn't it be "every game" instead of "I think fanfic" though if you want to call him a big walls poster? | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:27 marvellosity wrote: I prefer it when they aren't tbh. Leaves them a nice little surprise when they read the thread later. Mostly I'm not really sure what's happening with the game and it's easier to fit a scumteam with him in it than out of it. Thats sounds like you have quite a few reads you could share. | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:30 marvellosity wrote: not really, they're all tenuous and weak. as you well know, if i thought i should share them, i would have done Complains about being bored. Gives the most boring answer possible. Also votes guy that isn't even here but expects that to make his boredom go away?!?! :D | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: On the first part this sounds like you need to wait for marv to give his opinion before you can make a judgement call. Why? Are you really attacking me for respecting marvs opinion? What kind of bullshit line of questioning is this... | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:37 Sn0_Man wrote: marv is as capable as anybody else is of rolling scum Another very impressive observation. Has nothing to do with what I said though. | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: No i am not. You seemed to have a some sort of an opinion on couple of things, related to me. Yet you could not lay them out before marv commented on them first. That has nothing to do with respecting / not respecting one's opinion. There is a difference between "I could not" and "I did not". | ||
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On November 28 2014 01:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Anyways i am going off for a while. I am getting angry because JAT is not giving clear answers to like anything in this game... If you start asking clear questions that aren't loaded with bullshit I might be able to give you clear answers. Until then you will have to work with what I am giving you. | ||
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On November 28 2014 02:43 Holyflare wrote: I dunno, really dislike GB this game because all he did was ask me useless questions and say he's getting the game in shape while saying it was already in shape with discussion and then the thing with you/superbia... just meh Then he picked me out saying i look weird for not pushing anything good even though he's voting on the target i said i agreed with you about -.- -.- -.- -.- sn0 - scummy originally and still scummy done absolutely nothing sentinel - same as above wave - -.- MEH jat.... i dunno i'll probably end up wrong but he hasn't done much to convince me otherwise just chiming in with nothing useful really palmar? this is my shit list Wow. So you have your GB read and nothing else and you complain about me having nothing useful. Your shitlist consists of me who is town and literally the 3 guys refusing to participate. | ||
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On November 28 2014 02:45 marvellosity wrote: I think Sentinel is town based on him being shit #greatread Didn't he get lynched for being shit in a recent game and flipped mafia? I mean I didn't really read that game but it seemed Kush and him just gave up without a fight. | ||
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On November 28 2014 02:52 marvellosity wrote: I think that was Campus mafia and he was poo in a different way. If you look at his filter (I think I checked the first 2-3 pages) he actually tries/pretends to play the game. Ok, I see what you are talking about... don't really know if it qualifies as #greatread though. | ||
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On November 28 2014 02:55 Holyflare wrote: Who is the one i say I'm not particularly sure about. Now instead of calling it shit tell me where the hell you disagree The part where I am on your shitlist. | ||
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On November 28 2014 02:56 marvellosity wrote: the hashtag implies it isn't based on amazingly sound thinking, dear. Although it is what I currently think. No shit. ^_^ | ||
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On November 28 2014 02:58 Holyflare wrote: I don't know why you're being so obnoxious and can't even have a discussion instead of being a twat and shitting on everything. The fact that YOU are saying this to ME is quite ironic. | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:01 Holyflare wrote: Well I've completely backed off of you in order to have that discussion so no it's absolutely not ironic. It is quite childish on your part though that someone who found you scummy for actual reasons that he elaborated on is being shut down because you couldn't handle that pressure briefly. 2 questions. 1) If you have completely backed off - why am I on your shitlist? And no you didn't bring a single good reason for that read. Such a thing doesn't even exist. 2) If I "couldn't handle the pressure" how am I able to shut you down? The answer is there is no pressure. It is just you making an awful unsubstantiated read while being annoying/nitpicky about it and me calling you out for it. | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:02 geript wrote: Look JAT. It's as simple as stop sucking if you're town. No biggie. Is this the point in time where we go to the database to find out who has the highest town winrate in this game? | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:11 Sn0_Man wrote: I mean asserting that u win erry game as town or w/e just makes u look worse I think if ur play is meh because ur supposed to be some godly town or something. Not that I think HF or geript have particularly good grasps on this game atm My play isn't meh though. How do you come to the conclusion that they don't have a good grasp on the game if you claim to have no reads? | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:12 Holyflare wrote: Being on a list is completely different from continually pressuring you which is what i mean by backing off. It doesn't matter if you think it exists or not. It's what i felt and i fully explained why i felt it. Whether you agree/disagree or I'm right or wrong is irrelevant to what I just said. You are shutting down discussion not shutting down my arguments why is this even a point? Ok, what discussion am I shutting down? I remember discussing several things today. | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:15 Holyflare wrote: I want to discuss what you think is wrong with my list. Quite clearly disagreeing about yourself is irrelevant. You are shutting down talking about the rest of my reads because you are bitter about earlier and i called it childish. You asked me what was wrong about your list and I answered. There was no shutting down. If I had a big problem with any other read of yours I would have said so obviously. | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:15 Sn0_Man wrote: well for one thing both of them have strange ideas about me being scum based on the literal nothings asserting that ur play is godlike day 1 is questionable regardless of veracity. see: geripts earlier claims I don't remember calling my play godlike. On November 28 2014 03:15 Holyflare wrote: Who is scum jat? If I knew I would probably tell, don't you think? | ||
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On November 28 2014 03:21 Sn0_Man wrote: see now ur putting words into my mouth too Well, do you or do you not disagree with anything they said besides their read on you? | ||
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On November 28 2014 06:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Well there is kind of a reason I haven't played in a while and only just barely joined at the last second. I mean if you think lynching me for my play is a good way to win (and you're town) then by all means. Otherwise shhh. You're making me waste valuable posts. Nobody forced you to join this game. | ||
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On November 28 2014 06:59 Holyflare wrote: aka how i got to it And why didn't you say that the first time? We could have avoided some stupid shit you know... | ||
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On November 28 2014 07:58 marvellosity wrote: dw he'll flip mafioso am bussing I can believe half of this statement. | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:00 marvellosity wrote: well i can't be bussing if he's not mafia, so i think i'm good :p I am surprised that you figured this out. | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:21 marvellosity wrote: well Palmar was only a wildcard. Superbia your post reads pretty well to me, but my gut isn't wholeheartedly in it just yet. I'd like to see it play out between you. I will say that that post does a better job of demonstrating suspicion than your last one did which demonstrated "badness" more, for wont of a better word Yeah? I think he is on the list for now. I only remember FFL2 and the werewolf game and superbias reads in those games where extremely superficial and non commital according to my memory. | ||
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On November 28 2014 08:29 Holyflare wrote: .... you didn't really want to discuss anything with me at all and still don't even town read me so who cares? Well, boohoo. | ||
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On November 28 2014 17:08 Holyflare wrote: Also the wave qq seemed legit I agree. He also started doing things. On November 28 2014 17:23 Holyflare wrote: Still not gonna remove jat from my list no matter how much he whines though, he hasn't really done anything this game but qq defence and then just chat about nothing in particular. Yeah, you are not leaving my shitlist either. | ||
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On November 28 2014 12:01 geript wrote: JAT and GB seem really weird to me. Like jat's whole response re: Ryan's response seems nonsensical. Like he's more concerned with how people (specifically Marv) see him rather than proving things one way or another. It reminds me of panicked thinking more than "I've caught obv scum lying." 1) I DID prove things. 2) Since I was perfectly able to prove things (see 1)) there would be no reason for me to panic at any point in that as scum. What a fucking idiotic read. | ||
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On November 28 2014 17:50 Holyflare wrote: Yes but your reason for having me on a shit list is non existing It is quite the other way round but I won't argue with you about that any further. | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:05 Holyflare wrote: Please do. I'm on your shit list which means I have a good chance to be mafia according to you. So please outline your read on me so you'll actually be culpable for something this game. As it stands nothing in your filter is a real stance on anything. If you think that I haven't given reads this game then you did not read it. It is that simple. | ||
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On November 28 2014 11:51 WaveofShadow wrote: One of the first things JAT said resonated with me (even though I don't trust JAT either): Yes, this post is all defense and the beginning of a stupid shitfight with HF, but it's mostly true. ESPECIALLY the part where he says he doesn't believe HF's read of him. If you'll recall I said: As far as forced things go, this whole deal of his looked SUPER forced. Of course the problem becomes HF can certainly do that shit as town, and what does it hope to gain him as scum? On the other hand there are definitely blatant lies within HF's early posting (such has himself being demotivated if he rolled scum---yeah he gets a little annoyed sometimes but ALWAYS plays it out. Like me. And he would NEVER let it show in thread.) Same problem though---I've seen him lie as town before (can't remember if he's aware he is doing it or not even when I point it out to him.) Again conclusion is I don't feel like delving into this shit and we should be lynching him. I like this post and am actually surprised that noone else ever said something about that. | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:08 Holyflare wrote: Have you also ditched your rayn read completely even though you proved he was lying? You didn't mention anything about rayn when you were disagreeing with marvs list. No, I explicitly said that I agree with the rest of his reads which includes rayn. I proved that he was lying but it would be such a stupid move for him to do as mafia to try and attack me with that and then admit that he was wrong afterwards that I have trouble seeing this world. | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:09 Holyflare wrote: Yes please stop making useless posts like this where you halter the discussion all over again and get to actually discussing your scum read on me. What if I don't? I think I will just ignore you and your incessant nitpicking on minor things. | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:14 Holyflare wrote: Like me making a case about you with 0 posts and then attacking you and dropping the attack afterwards? #dounlestandards That's very different and you know it. Stupid post. | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:17 Holyflare wrote: This is really not fucking minor jat. You have 1 original content spree of posts and that's on me which is fucking simple to do when i made a laughable case on you based on you not even posting. The rest of your game does not exist, it's just simply not there. That is your opinion and frankly I don't care about it. I will start working now so why don't you try to figure rayn out? I don't remember you interacting with him much. | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:21 Holyflare wrote: It's a simple question, outline your case on me. It should be a simple answer of a few lines that just outlines your thoughts. It's the easiest thing in the world to do if you're town. Why is it like drawing blood out of a stone? Maybe you should look at my very first post in this game. It still stands. I will not answer you again on this. | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:24 Holyflare wrote: Yeh the post where you say the stuff I'm doing is not alignment indicative ok jat ##unvote ##vote justanothertownie There is nothing like this in that post but nice try. | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:28 Holyflare wrote: I just quoted the exact place where you said this Which is a different post. | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:31 Holyflare wrote: Didn't I completely drop that case as soon as you returned anyway? I'm almost 100% sure I did which further should outline that it wasn't a proper push. The fact that you dropped it doesn't make it any less scummy. | ||
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On November 28 2014 18:34 Holyflare wrote: But no. You've done no legwork to see whether that was the case. You don't want me to outline what I think about you. All you do is try and shut down anything productive when I talk to you and shy away from ever giving out elaborated scum reads even on me you don't even have a scum read becauae you shut down your whole case when you said it's not alignment indicative I did NOT say it wasn't alignment indicative. I said that I wasn't absolutely sure what it was at that point but your play since then does not suggest that you are town. End of discussion. | ||
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On November 28 2014 19:42 marvellosity wrote: I'm starting to think there's a decent chance jat is mafia, he's really prickly and actually pretty unproductive all round. Since when does me being prickly mean that I am mafia? If you don't townread me then I get that but you should by no means have a scumread on me at all. I didn't do much this game because my time is limited but I commented on things and I tried to work with you. Like I said the first time I will be able to really take a closer look at this game will be later today. If you disagree with anything I said then say so and tell me why. If you are so sure that HF is town then show me why because I don't see it at all. If you want my opinion on anything then ask me. I think that you are probably town and if you are really scumreading me then something in this game has gone really wrong. | ||
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On November 28 2014 20:10 marvellosity wrote: I'm not so sure that HF is town, but what I just said about your read on him still stands. I'm aware you have work but normally you're proactive/active as town, and a bit more behind and snipey as mafia. I don't really understand at all why you continue to antagonise HF like you are, I don't get it at all. "go back and read my first post" is a really shit basis for a scumread jat. yes you said that. Yes, I did and I meant it. Look at the posts I quoted in my first post. HF says he believes I would be demotivated to post as mafia. Do you think that's true? Do you think HF believes that? Because I don't. HF says he would be too demotivated to post as mafia and would have went to bed instead. Do you believe this? I don't. The way how he is pushing things like this in general seems malicious and nitpicky to me and it doesn't matter if he backed off of that. Does not look like town HF to me. I generally agree with most of the things he says when he is town. | ||
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On November 28 2014 20:16 marvellosity wrote: Really really bugged by geript jumping on Obi like that. Arg. Yeah, that was kinda weird. | ||
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On November 28 2014 20:22 marvellosity wrote: still don't mind the rest of his filter though. hmmph. jat if you're making a case based on HF's early push on you then that's just silly. Pretty sure rayn (and others) pointed it out but HF makes retardo hard pushes fairly regularly at the start of games. And of course it matters that he backed off it. I think I can absolutely scumread him if I don't think he has done anything that he couldn't have done as scum afterwards. And I don't remember a retardo push like that from him. | ||
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On November 28 2014 20:23 marvellosity wrote: like there's virtually nothing in the last few pages of your filter addressing GB, or Damdred, or practically anyone other than arguing with HF and sometimes talking to me why? if you have enough time to post 40 times arguing with HF then you have enough time to do those things, even if just to a small degree. Theoretically. I didn't even really have the time to argue with HF and shouldn't have done so but he is just annoying me too much. I will give you an opinion on Damdred/GB once I reread them which will be later. I don't remember anything about them despite GB accusing Superbia for being a big wall poster which was bad and people pointing out that Elvis played differently than he did in his recent towngames which I agree was the case. | ||
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On November 28 2014 20:28 marvellosity wrote: So why are you shocked that I might be scumreading you? What have you done that you can't have done as scum? I have something about HF that I think is scumindicative. I just presented that to you. Like I said if you don't townread me that is not shocking to me. But you don't have anything scumindicative about me. That is literally impossible. | ||
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On November 28 2014 20:33 marvellosity wrote: you do realise scumminess is, in large part, absence of towniness, right? To a degree. | ||
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On November 28 2014 20:35 Holyflare wrote: This is bull shit because all I quite clearly asked for was for you to elaborate your read on me and you decided not to and it took 2 pages for you to say look at page 1 That's quite clearly not what happened and I won't go into that again. | ||
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On November 28 2014 20:38 marvellosity wrote: I disagree, for example on my catchup I posted something that HF posted that I agreed with his stance completely. (on GB) That is townie. Partly because he bothers having a stance on GB at all (  ), but actually because I agreed with it, especially the reasons he's not sure GB is mafia.It's basically what I was referring to when I said to Superbia that his 2nd case was good but my gut wasn't in it. Fine. If you are so sold on this then I will just ignore HF for today but if he is mafia then that is completely on you. Don't expect me to put up with his shit though. | ||
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Whatever. I will leave now. I will take a new look at this whole game later and try to be unbiased. | ||
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On November 28 2014 22:27 marvellosity wrote: one of "the better players" is pretty much bound to be mafia, but the thing about being such a "better player" is that getting lynched on day 1 is a pretty tricky business. I'm not a risk-taker on day 1. Don't worry. By deadline you won't want to lynch me anyways. You can safely focus on different targets for now and if I don't deliver later lynch me for it. | ||
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On November 28 2014 22:41 WaveofShadow wrote: Which once again makes me wonder why you professed to think I was scum, but whatever. I also am not even remotely appeased by what JAT just said. Hella easy to put forth content when under the gun. wat | ||
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On November 28 2014 22:52 marvellosity wrote: what i'm saying is, you're saying my heuristic doesn't apply because this is way out of his town range, well unless you're gonna show me a game where it's in his mafia range, then meh. This feels like a day for shenannies Don't tell that to Wave he will flip his shit. | ||
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On November 28 2014 23:04 WaveofShadow wrote: But also good to see you're contributing JAT. Solid play all around. I know. Thanks. | ||
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On November 28 2014 23:05 marvellosity wrote: What I really mean by "it feels like a day for shenannies" is "i'm finding it hard to make any sort of firm decision right now, will have to wait till a raft of late posting and try decide then" Will you be around in a few hours? | ||
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On November 29 2014 00:01 raynpelikoneet wrote: Koshi logic applies to damdred. If he does say unsmart unrememberable stuff he is mafia. Damdred says unsmart stuff as town all the time. | ||
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On November 29 2014 00:03 marvellosity wrote: GB first called out Elvis Damdred (Elvis) going for Sentinel Superbia going for GB all somehow connected. hf. k | ||
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On November 29 2014 00:08 Damdred wrote: Screw you JAT no reason to be snarky at me at this point. Wasn't snarky. It is a fact and if rayn reads you this way he is bound to be wrong at some point. Would love an explanation or example of this "own logic" btw. | ||
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This game there is nothing but trolling/posting pictures/throwing votes around. Very possible that the slot is mafia. Will read damdred next. GB calling that out is good but I will reserve judgement until I read his filter. | ||
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On November 29 2014 00:27 marvellosity wrote: the question is then, would he play so blatantly differently as mafia? it's not even trying to play similarly. Yes. But you can waffle about it endlessly and come to no conclusion. The simplest explanation would be that he is just mafia. Damdreds filter doesn't really make me strongly lean one way or the other. He is going after the easy targets (not necessarily a bad thing) except for his GB read and I don't know why but that one feels weird. He spends most of his time on that read and does not come to a real conclusion. I don't see why he even spends so many words talking about GB. On November 28 2014 13:12 Damdred wrote: I chose you sno and GB. GB has played oddly by his standards but has a few staples of his town play. This sentence in particular. Half of his filter is explaining how GB is maybe scummy but then he writes this which to me reads like a townlean and would rather lynch sentinel. Another thing I notice is that he is pretty adamant about getting GB to explain his scumread on marv but I don't know what I should conclude from this. He probably wants GB to make himself look bad by doing this because marv is pretty towny. Overall I would absolutely lynch this slot. | ||
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On November 29 2014 00:42 Damdred wrote: Spent most time on GB because I'm most familiar with GB probably. I'm more null for you jat but you would rather lynch me? You are null leaning scum and Elvis was scummy -> I would lynch you. | ||
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On November 29 2014 00:54 marvellosity wrote: I don't remember the order of how things happened this game, but I'm going to step in if I think something is incorrect regardless. I can easily think someone is mafia but also think the arguments being used to attack them are false or bad I know that, thank you very much. | ||
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On November 29 2014 00:59 marvellosity wrote: the sad thing is, i post relatively more than 95% of people do as mafia, i'm just a spambot as town :< I know that too. | ||
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On November 29 2014 01:05 WaveofShadow wrote: Where the fuck is Rayn? Is he scum? If he was telling the truth he should be around soon. | ||
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On November 29 2014 01:07 GlowingBear wrote: By the way I'm rescinding my town read on obi since he is playing just like he played when he was mafia Explain. | ||
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On November 28 2014 12:29 Damdred wrote: I'm pretty much caught up I won't go into my town reads but I have a good many of them this time around. I think it is time to go into your town reads. | ||
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On November 29 2014 01:21 marvellosity wrote: Interesting tidbit: Superbia focused quite early in Fanfic (i think maybe he replaced, not sure) on the 3 people scumreading him. Which is at least consistent with what he said about his concentration here. Hmmz Yes, I remember that. Palmar townread him for it while everyone else called him scummy. | ||
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On November 29 2014 01:29 marvellosity wrote: On the flipside, I really don't buy rayn's tone argument, Superbia started off lightheartedly enough here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467273-2p2-vanilla-werewolf-13er?user=Superbia Yes, but he hasn't made his trademark awful list post he always does as mafia. No superficial and noncommital reads like I said earlier. | ||
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8. Elvis! replaced by Damdred Day 1 9. GlowingBear 10. [UoN]Sentinel 12. Palmar Currently I think we should lynch into this list. I will try to narrow it down in the next hours and will also take suggestions of who to take out or put back in. | ||
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You only got there first because you have perfect information and are bussing as usual. :/ | ||
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On November 29 2014 01:56 Sn0_Man wrote: u do realize that if I was scum i'd have the low hanging fruit you tried to shove into my hands and made something with it right? Stop the WIFOM and do something. Thanks. | ||
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On November 29 2014 01:57 marvellosity wrote: you srsly saying he doesn't do this as town? :> Producing weird reads? Maybe. Those reads? I don't know. At the very least they are lazy reads that don't show any towny effort. He was really more helpful and towny in his recent towngames compared to this game so far I think. | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:03 marvellosity wrote: dat votecount I don't think I ever saw something like this. Does not look very promising. | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:07 geript wrote: @Rayn talk to me about Palmer. Marv just a lurker vote? What is there to talk about Palmar? | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:15 Sn0_Man wrote: I'd disagree with like 8 people at one vote, scum can literally pick and choose their lynch at will A town-driven mislynch is likely to provide more infromation and hit a less valuable (to town) target than a scum driven one. This post is bullshit. | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:17 Sn0_Man wrote: u literally just want to read me as scum i can tell cuz ur fact denying It is bullshit to think the fact that the votes are spread means that scum will control who the lynch will be. It is bullshit to say that scumdriven wagons offer less information than towndriven ones (lol). It is also bullshit that towndriven mislynches hit less valuable targets. | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:20 Sn0_Man wrote: ? i'm literally sheeping marv cuz i dont know who scum is that doesn't mean that I can't assist town by reminding them that they are being retarded and maybe we might win if they try being less retarded Are you still sheeping him if he decides that you are the lynch? | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:28 Sn0_Man wrote: ? I 100% guarantee that we will not hit scum if the leading lynch candidate has 2 votes. the fact that you don't agree means that... you failed kindergarten math? iunno And lets be real, if scum are controlling the lynch then we literally can't hit scum, which means on a whole town gets far less out of it. Stop the fearmongering. Everyone here knows that this day won't end this way. You seem to be very eager to discuss this meaningless issue instead of giving us anything of substance to work with. | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:39 marvellosity wrote: that's not what i gathered from browsing damdred's games... Totally awful connection speculation: + Show Spoiler + GB and damdred both being scum would kinda explain damdreds weird read on GB and GBs backpaddling now that he thinks he can actually defend the slot. He might have seen Elvis play and went "omg he is SO different from his towngames if I don't call this out now someone else will". | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:41 WaveofShadow wrote: I want this to be enough to not lynch him. I really do. I agree. This is so frustrating though. | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:50 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Aight, first four reads Marv - town. He keeps going on about his long filter, so I checked his most recent scum games and found exactly that. He's had two filters longer than 13 pages recently as scum, with 25 pages in Shadow over seven days and 15 pages in Desert over four days. So still far less than 13 in half of day 1. Also his play is very similar to what it was in ##Mafia, where he spammed up the thread but only to get others talking. And he was town there. Which makes me think he's town right now. HF - null-town. Not as memorable, but he seems to be chugging along. Poked a few holes in JAT's reasoning, is focused on pressuring. Fantastic. Superbia - null. Not too sure about him yet. Structurally his filter is about the same as it was in Campus. I think the key element of his scum play is how you forget his presence, and I don't know if I'm getting that feel from this game just yet. I mean, I forget a lot of players, so maybe that's not the best metric for me to be making decisions on. JAT - I'm gonna rig his vote. But really, null, maybe a bit scummy. The thing HF called him out on, having problems with geript's reads and then posting his about the same reads in an about the same manner, makes me question JAT a little bit. I don't know how to feel about him right now. Huh? | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:51 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh you meant specifically. Thought you were you were joking around ego-wise. Um...I mean....I guess? We just have a massive coin-flip of a waste of a slot here and I truly don't like not really attempting to find real scum D1. I mean yes Palmar could very well be scum but then it's not exactly like we 'caught' him, is it? And yet leaving him alive doesn't serve us any purpose....subvaouybvalwbgvaligbadlgb Now you are concerned witch catching scum instead of just lynching them suddenly? | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:53 GlowingBear wrote: Cool, so, no one to lynch. Very important contribution Yeah. Townread on marv and 3 nullreads. Great. Why even single those reads out then... | ||
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On November 29 2014 02:59 geript wrote: JAT been really active. I don't think that's indicative for him though. He keeps on making these little annoying pokes at people. Seems more interested in getting in shut fights than anything else. His response to Rayn into subsequent absorption of Marvs point later on bugs me. I really hate his lynch me later post. I see scum do that shit all the time on video. Scum pile for now. Stupid pile for now. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:04 WaveofShadow wrote: I don't see what one has anything to do with the other. Palmar is catchable, if he plays the game. That's pretty tempting actually. I don't think I've ever seen Rayn play so little though. It's hard for me to believe that's alignment indicative so I wonder if we'd be lynching him for the wrong reasons. Let me read him because I haven't. If that is the only thing that's bothering you take a look at FFL2. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:15 Sn0_Man wrote: I mean rayn cares as scum tho FFL2. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:16 GlowingBear wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote:Superbia Let's get this going. No, let's not get this going. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:22 WaveofShadow wrote: Oh wait he was scum and got replaced? Wtf? What happened in that game? He was scum and got vigi shot. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:26 WaveofShadow wrote: Ok was it batsnacks who got replaced? Ok I think I have a handle on things now. Well I mean in any case I don't know what you were trying to prove by suggesting FFL2 because Rayn certainly showed more care there than here, and I know as town he REALLY cares. Like enough to swear at people and get modkilled on a regular basis. So what was YOUR point exactly? Yes, he cares as town. He did NOT care that much in FFL2 and if you think he cared more in that game than here then you should scumread him hardcore. Storrzerg was the one getting replaced by superbia who played really different than he does in this game. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:38 WaveofShadow wrote: Of course it was weird, I screwed up and realized it right after I posted. Either way, I was trying to show how Rayn cares more as town than scum and while FFL2 showed him caring a little, it's certainly more than he cares here. I have a question for you though, why did you bring up the example? Here and a couple other places in your filter you bring up rayn subtly painting him in a scummy light and then you don't do anything about it. Is there a particular reason? Ok, let me get this straight. You say you could see rayn being scum but have doubt because he is playing so little. I present you a game where rayn does very little as scum. What is there that does not make sense to you? Then after that you go "rayn cares way more as town". Oh, yeah? If that is what you are thinking how come you doubted your read earlier because he played so little? Something doesn't add up here. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:41 Sn0_Man wrote: Alright I'm having issues figuring out how to explain this, but this post feels like it's written from a scum perspective. Wouldn't a townie be more concerned about "I shouldn't be voting for town" and less "i shouldnt' be voting for my town read? if that makes sense ? Would you write it this way? Because I don't think I would. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:45 geript wrote: And you've been asked to read the game and post your thoughts. This. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:46 Superbia wrote: Also we're not killing Palmar today. Do explain. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:46 WaveofShadow wrote: It was a response to you linking FFL2 to Sn0. And I still doubt my read. Answer my question JAT. If Rayn is so scummy to you that you need to bring up evidence as to his scumminess to both me AND Sn0, why haven't you done anything about it? Yes, I linked that game to sn0 to demonstrate that his read is wrong. I don't see how that changes anything. What do you think I should do about it? I already said if rayn doesn't deliver soon he will be back on my lynch list. | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:49 Superbia wrote: Because I feel he's town and he always gets killed for dumb fucking reasons near EoD. Why do you feel he is town? | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:53 WaveofShadow wrote: Why are you still waiting for him to deliver with 4 hours left on the first day? It seems are you're already attempting to convince yourself and others he is scum but not really pushing it particularly hard, and it really rubs me the wrong way. You mean I am scummy for going after your scumread? | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:56 Holyflare wrote: I'm lying in bed on my phone right next to her? How are you writing this while you are lying on your phone? | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:57 Holyflare wrote: I don't see how this is relevant. Of course you can be. No, that should not be his first reaction to it. How about you give your opinion on the whole matter instead of posting this post which is irrelevant itself? | ||
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On November 29 2014 03:58 Superbia wrote: Mostly this post: I really liked Obi's post as well. The fact that he's completely acting upon this thing is a bit weird, but not scum indicative. In fact I think it's rather townie, especially coupled with the fact that he's giving the appearance of being busy due to thanksgiving. I also personally liked the little tidbit of me being the first post in every town game I've been in. Also I agree with most his (limited) reads, excepting the rayn part. I haven't really read rayn. Though I'm mostly defending him here because I felt a "lolz let's vote for plammar gais" garbage lynch coming, into him flipping town, into town having made 0 progression. Fair enough. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:04 Superbia wrote: I find this really hard to believe. Yesterday you essentially said you agreed with my points on GB, and since then I've interacted with GB and giving my input on Elvis and Sent. Care to elaborate why you're reading my posts as scummy? I would also love to hear this. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:13 Holyflare wrote: I couldn't care less if you pushed every single one of my scummiest reads either that means nothing in tl mafia if you look scummy doing it I'll push you Cool story bro. Now to the part where you give an opinion on the actual read. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:16 Superbia wrote: That's fair enough, but my history with playing with Palmar has always resulted in him getting lynched early on the game for an, in my opinion, dumb fucking reason (partially his own fault) and he flipped town. This feels almost exactly the same as then. People are scum-reading him because of his inactivity/weirdness, he comes and gives some reads and says he'll not be around for EoD. He ends up getting lynched and I end up yelling at people for being stupid. If you are talking about werewolf he eventually was doing much much more than in this game. In Fanfic too. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:18 GlowingBear wrote: Where's sentinel with his scumreads? Sentinel has no scumreads. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:22 Superbia wrote: In fanfic I hard defended him during d2 and I felt like I really had a good read on Palmar. I ended up being correct. In werewolf I already knew his alignment (I was scum), and his play there seemed to follow the exact same structure as it does here: 1. Palmar does something weird or whatever the fuck. 2. People are scum-reading and voting for Palmar. 3. Palmar comes out and gives out a small number of reads, doesn't seem to care that much about the pressure, then goes afk. 4. Palmar gets lynched. 5. Palmar flips town. You are either misremembering or intentionally trying to mislead here. By the time he was lynched in werewolf Palmar was easily the towniest player in the game (he had also given a good amount of different reads) which made the fact that those idiots lynched him so awesome for us scummers. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: fuck you and i am here and reading. yo uare scum because of this post in which everything is wrong in and you haven't done shit in this game besides one good observation on Superbia. Cute. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:26 raynpelikoneet wrote: yeah not to mention i explained both of the reads. You said superbias playstyle is different and damdred has his "own logic". That's hardly an explanation. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:33 Superbia wrote: What? I did not feel like he was the towniest player at all at that point in the game (though to be honest, I do not know who was, that game was a clusterfuck for town). I remember agreeing with the pressure on Palmar, but finding the lynch mindbogglingly bad. Maybe my read on Palmar is bad, so I'd love to see a case on why he's scum here. As it stands I still believe it's a shit lynch. I don't think it is possible to make a case for Palmar being scum OR town here which is the problem. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: JAT and Wave get massive angry points. I am moving to a new apartment on Monday. I have lived at my friends place for the last week. There are at least three people around me all the time i am not sleeping or at work. Every single day i have found time to play this game (or last two days) -- at every single break i have at work, and every single night when it's possible. I just drove 450km to pack my stuff ready for Sunday when i am driving back. Yeah i think i should be doing the packing right now so i can actually do it in time. But hey, here i am again. And then pretty much the first thing i find out some idiot has nerve to call me scum for "lurking". No, this is not a defense. This is because i am pissed off. Especially coming from two guys who have wasted at least 24h of this day into saying ONLY useless shit. Well, I assumed you would have time when you said you would go after Palmar when you are done working. Sue me. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:38 raynpelikoneet wrote: There is nothing else to say. I told marv to go look because i don't bother to explain my townreads. Apparently YOU FOUND THAT OUT WHEN YOU WENT LOOKING?!!?!? lol Damdred in unmemorable as mafia. That's the thing. There is literally nothing else to explain. He is unmemorable this game. He is probably mafia. I am not sure if I understand this post but I can dig the conclusion. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:39 Superbia wrote: His play followed the structure I have seen in previous games in which he was town. That's why he's town for me. He's not strong town, but it's enough not on the lynch table for today. I think what has been said re: it does not tell us anything whatever he flips is the only reason not to lynch him. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Sno is town. Ok. Please explain. | ||
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Rayn, if you are town it is in your best interest to show me and other townies why Sno is a bad lynch since he definitely is on the table for today. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:44 WaveofShadow wrote: Welp, town lynch today boyos. wat | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:53 WaveofShadow wrote: lol now this feels like town rayn. Seems like I had to kinda provoke it out of him but meh. Come on. I am not believing for a second that this was your intention. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: I literally wrote "i am not even home yet". Which to me indicated you would be home later?! | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:49 Holyflare wrote: I would lynch jat and palmar. Not honestly sure about damd tbh but wouldn't mind the pressure on him for now, wave feeels a bit unfocused but I'm not sure why i feel like that and I haven't really read him properly it just feels that way from watching him interact so kiiind of wary on that Would lynch sentinel If me and Palmar are still your biggest scumreads you basically have to be scum. | ||
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On November 29 2014 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote: lol the scumteam is definitely out in full force during this clusterfuck. Hard to identify who that is. I'm tempted to go 'enemy of my enemy' on this and lynch JAT maybe. Geript you could be right about damdred but to be completely truthful I think my appetite will only be satiated this game if I can lynch one of the big names. It's kinda silly but it's where I'm at right now, and considering at the very least statistically it's fairly likely for at least one of them to be scum I doubt I'm too far off. If you think it is me you are pretty far off. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:03 raynpelikoneet wrote: I am puzzled. You knew i was not ready to play yet but you still wanted to add me into your scumpile because i promised to play but didn't? Is this what you are saying? I knew you weren't ready to play yet. But I thought your posts indicated that you would have time to play later. So I said if you don't deliver LATER I would put you back on my scumlist. Where is your problem? | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:04 Holyflare wrote: You still haven't done anything towny imo. You just reply to things and call things bad. You went on a tiny spree of filter dives which was weird and looked forced because if it was me I'd be all up in that shit based on memory. You are so off this game. If you think from your perspective that scum JAT who was busy for most of day1 has a bigger filter then town HF and picks fights with almost every player in the game except for marv then you are insane. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:05 marvellosity wrote: rayn I don't really want to lynch Wave today. I think Damdred is the right lynch, I have nothing to add to reasons already given by you and others. ##Vote: Damdred Game v hard because struggling to pick 3 mafia This implies you are still townreading rayn, yes? | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:08 marvellosity wrote: yes Then I will sheep you on that. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:14 Holyflare wrote: I haven't even been playing actively and it's irrelevant because your posts don't say anything. Laughable. You are scum. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:18 Holyflare wrote: Why is it laughable when several people, marv included, had the same conclusion? You practically begged him to wait till later and you still did the same amount of nothing in your posts. I never begged and there was certainly wasn't nothing in my posts. If there is someone whose posts have been lacking any content recently then that is exactly you. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:19 Holyflare wrote: No i have my opinions on who to lynch and i don't care which of the 3 do get lynched. Lazy isn't alignment indicative jat, you should know that. You can't possibly have a read on Palmar. You are still wrong about me and not evaluating even though I have been extremely active and towny in the last hours. It is looking pretty bad for you. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:20 marvellosity wrote: I'm gonna post way less tomorrow if i'm about. somehow i think my posting leads to these arguments even though i've only had one dumb slapfight with wave really. Huh??? | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:24 marvellosity wrote: it may not to others :p It indeed makes absolutely no sense to me. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:28 Holyflare wrote: You haven't at all. You've literally done absolutely nothing. I never said I had a scum read on palmar either, I was asked who I wanted to lynch. I'm not looking bad for doing anything. You already think i look bad/scummy so saying it's looking bad for me just means you didn't think that originally. That's it. Not a chance in hell that you are town this game. ##Vote: Holyflare | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:30 Holyflare wrote: Do you know what evaluation means? I've literally incorporated what you have done and made my read on you. Just because it is the same read does not mean I haven't reevaluated, especially when I've incorporated everything after the time you said you'd look more towny. No you fucking didn't. You incorporated nothing at all since you claim that I did nothing which is absolutely ridiculous. Just die. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:32 Holyflare wrote: Absolutely nobody will follow you jat. Just like nobody will probably follow me. I'm content with both tbh. And that is why you are scum. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:34 Holyflare wrote: Doesn't change what I think in the slightest. If I'm town and thinking this then maybe you've gone wrong somewhere. Fortunately you aren't town. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:39 Holyflare wrote: Have a guess fucktard I am not playing your games. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:42 Holyflare wrote: Yes well you'd be advised to start looking mega towny on someone who is actually mafia jat. Jusy sayin. I am already looking really towny. I don't need to do shit for you. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:43 Damdred wrote: Sucks replacing in. On phone, Rayn might be scum here honestly. His early vote on jat for reasons is strange for him and the follow up to it is ok enough but his play besides that has been lackluster and he thinks I'm scum but would rather have a fight and look active then push his scum suspect right now in a way to get him lynched. wat Isn't pushing a scum suspect exactly what he is doing right now? | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:44 Holyflare wrote: Yes well you can just die then Yeah? Are you trying to claim vig or wtf are you doing right now? | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:51 Holyflare wrote: Think damd is actually a good lynch No shit. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:53 Holyflare wrote: "tone it down" I never said "fucktard" or something even remotely insulting. I don't have to tone down in any way. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:53 Damdred wrote: K I'm a vt far as I know sorry I suck at mafia in general I guess "as far as I know"? | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:53 Holyflare wrote: You can't really say that either when you aren't and haven't voted him at all. I have said he is a good lynch all day. | ||
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On November 29 2014 05:57 Damdred wrote: knowing my luck I'm an unaware miller or something. Oh god.... | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:02 GlowingBear wrote: Because I don't feel he is town and because I find odd that geript is voting with one I free guys he said "oh we can let them live" when he had no motive to do that and also because he is voting with Sno, who, if I remember correctly, was scumread by geript Damdred is town because you don't feel he is town. Seems legit. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:05 GlowingBear wrote: Mistype. I feel he is town. If you want anyone to listen to this you will have to give us a little more than that. Why you are feeling this way for example. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:10 GlowingBear wrote: Nobody is willing to kill WoS today Rayn, you'll be wasting breath and time for nothing. Focus the possible lynch targets and give ideas. Read what I've said about Superbia. He is here, GODAMMIT. Maybe you should have read what rayn and I said about Superbia. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:12 marvellosity wrote: HF - what do you think of rayn's stuff on WoS? Could you explain that stuff to me in a nonrainy way? I don't really understand the post and where the quotes are from. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:17 marvellosity wrote: i.e. in 1) wave can't possibly believe that (is the contention) and for 2) he did the same to me this game that's the idea 1) Is a good point. It is MY point btw. 2) I don't know if you can compare how he threats you and rayn. Hmm. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:20 Superbia wrote: Make a forced read on you? You fucking called out my case as coming from a genuine point of view! Good point. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:21 Sn0_Man wrote: I didnt' think that wave's interaction with rayn was terribly similar to his interaction with you marv. Like with you he literally was like "i dont' care if ur voting me, you'll move" with rayn it was "lol rayn's a rabid dog I can't change his vote so i wont pretend to try. He'll move on or he wont" Or in other words, his arguments wer "Marv is too good to keep voting me" (bad argument obv) and "rayn is too bad for me to try to convince him to move" Nah. His argument was "marv will do shennanigans in the end instead of lynching me" as far as I understood it. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:28 marvellosity wrote: he may be. i'm really extremely uncertain on almost everything which isn't very helpful i know. You are the worst. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:38 GlowingBear wrote: FOR CHRIST SAKE MARV, WHY WOULD I, AS SCUM, GO AGAINST ONE OF THE MOST AGGRESSIVE AND PERSUASIVE PLAYERS ON THE THREAD? WHY WOULD I TAKE THIS STANCE IF I KNEW DAMDRED WAS GOING TO DIE INSTEAD OF ME? THAT'S EXACTLY THE POSITION SUPERBIA IS IN. HE IS NOT GETTING LYNCHED, THEREFORE, FUCK HIS SCUNREAD, HE'LL JUST STAND BY AND SEE THE GUY I CALLED OUT BEING LYNCHED. Maybe to say exactly this? This anger is unwarranted and I don't know if I believe that it is genuine. | ||
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I will listen if you present me a reasonable argument. WIFOM about what you would or would not do as scum alone is not gonna cut it and like Superbia I don't think that damdred and you could not both be scum. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:47 Holyflare wrote: I'm also not sure a mafia wave vs a town rayn goes into that game (thinking rayn is town in it) and trying to show how little "mafia" rayn cares in this game compared to that one. Why? That sounds pretty logical to me. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:50 Holyflare wrote: Yes but you were in that game and cared about looking at filters. Wave was just thrown a comparison and quickly skimmed over it. Hah, cared about filters. We seem to remember a different game. | ||
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On November 29 2014 06:51 Holyflare wrote: Well i don't particularly want to speak for wave but i don't really want to lynch him today. So who do you want to lynch then? And don't say me because that is never going to happen. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: He wasn't pointed out to look at anything. He did it himself. That's not true. I pointed towards that game multiple times. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:08 GlowingBear wrote: I've repeated two times why Superbia is scum and you're focusing on the first hard defense I've made myself. This is you not listening to me I focused on the post that I quoted and we both were talking about. To me it seems like your whole argument is that superbia is fine with lynching damdred or you. I don't see why he could not have scumreads on both of you since I personally kinda do. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:14 GlowingBear wrote: This is not what I'm saying. I'm saying he isn't trying to lynch me and he is okay that someone he obviously townread is going to be lynched. He only got back to talking now that I'm pointing him out. When did superbia say he townreads damdred? | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:16 GlowingBear wrote: Lol people, just look at the vote count. 3, 4 votes spreader and a huge wagon with only one person against if. You really believe that damdred isn't going to flip town? Lol Didn't you say something similar about batsnacks last time? | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:16 GlowingBear wrote: He said my push on Elvis was weak, which means he was townreading Elvis and scumreading me. That's what he did. No, it doesn't mean that at all. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:21 marvellosity wrote: I'm here but don't have much to add at this stage, we gotta go ahead with Damdred. I was about to call you out. Somehow everyone seems to be gone and it is really scaring me. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:23 marvellosity wrote: can't really let martrying like that stick. True. Still weird that noone is doing anything besides GB sobbing in his corner. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:24 marvellosity wrote: does GB rage in his mafia games? I don't remember him doing so in fanfic. He was just coasting not doing much. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:25 Superbia wrote: GB can you explain why damd is a misslynch as well? I think this has been asked before but I don't remember seeing an answer. Because he feels damdred is town :/ | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:27 Superbia wrote: Yeah well no shit, but how did he get there. That was his explanation. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:29 Sn0_Man wrote: at that moment i opted to sheep marv when palmar lynch fell through damdred was next up ez Well, thank you for leading us then. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:34 raynpelikoneet wrote: I wanna vote for html. Understandable. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:37 marvellosity wrote: i don't know what to do halp You are supposed to tell me what to do stupid. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:38 marvellosity wrote: are we going to yolo kill someone? Depends. We could yolo kill Sentinel. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:39 marvellosity wrote: am tempted to yolo kill wave D: hmmmm..... | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:49 Holyflare wrote: also apparently gb said i have a "tell" which i think is absolute bull shit when he said my meta was ripped wide open last game Yes, I actually agree with that point. He made it seem like you were really easy to read in general. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:50 marvellosity wrote: essentially at this point i feel like whatever choice i make is the wrong one that isn't a nice feeling. This is the hardest day1 lynch for me in a while. | ||
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On November 29 2014 07:59 Sn0_Man wrote: well i've been overruled if nothing else I feel like gb's flip is informative Yes. If he is scum there are quite a few parts of his filter that could be tmi. | ||
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On November 29 2014 08:05 marvellosity wrote: because now damdred's defence of glowing looks like tmi :p >_> | ||
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On November 29 2014 08:06 Damdred wrote: Just get a big to shoot me then, I could just have a good read on GB... Not the worst idea ever. | ||
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On November 29 2014 18:32 Palmar wrote: I'm still catching up btw, but the whole thing where we're modkilling people almost every game for dumb shit is getting a bit old. Yes. This quite sad especially because rayn was probably town. WoS gets on the shitlist for egging him on and "analyzing" the lynch without putting any reasonable thought into it. Same goes for Sentinel who already was on the shit list before. At least I made my vote count instead of fucking off way before deadline and coming back during the night to shit on the people actually trying to figure out the game. Palmar, I have a suggestion. Why don't you just start playing the game and thereby improve the whole atmosphere? | ||
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On November 29 2014 15:32 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Did the math wrong with the upvotes. JAT is the scum here between the two. No sane person would think that this has ANYTHING to do with math. What kind of towny looks at an eod wagon where at least 3 people switch between maybe a minute and goes like: "Well, exactly the one that was the hammer has to be the scum here. No doubt about it." without any thought about how it went down or considering the gameplay of those people. Kill this guy. | ||
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On November 29 2014 09:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I have no idea why we killed gb. When I get to a computer I'll figure it out. Maybe you should try out influencing the lynch then? | ||
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On November 29 2014 14:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Wave, what exactly was the point of that whole back-and-forth? The point was rayn getting modkilled. | ||
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On November 29 2014 17:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: meh JAT has 14 pages of filter so he has to be town. This is a fitting last post. My filter is almost as big as marvs who is very likely town even though I was busy for most of the day. Anyone who is still scumreading me as town needs to reevaluate immediately. | ||
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On November 29 2014 10:26 WaveofShadow wrote: Probably not though something tingles in the back of my head regarding your weird tunneling even when you're scum. I'd like to think that you're not capable of that specific outburst/rage as scum but for some reason I seem to think there's precedent for it, not that I'd be able to find it. At the very least I don't think I'd lynch you above JAT or HF, not that either of them will ever get lynched this game so we already lose. WoS thinks rayn is town. Still let's him modkill himself and even eggs him on while obviously being perfectly calm himself. This is not what a townie does. | ||
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On November 29 2014 21:14 WaveofShadow wrote: Yeah Jat, f*** you. I actually responded to him personally reasonably and he still acts like a dick, so he can go and self destruct himself. I had absolutely nothing to do with it. Yeah. Sure, you had nothing to do with it. Oh wait... On November 29 2014 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote: Aww, so sweet. Anything else? On November 29 2014 11:14 WaveofShadow wrote: You said that already. Anything else to say? On November 29 2014 11:16 WaveofShadow wrote: I think you need some help, buddy. Good luck. | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:05 Holyflare wrote: Going to be out all night so have fun, if jat doesn't die I got rb'd I am so afraid. | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:12 Holyflare wrote: ? What are you even talking about Either you're town and you're informing mafia or you're mafia and still informing mafia lol, superbia confirmed unable to use qt | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:16 Holyflare wrote: Guess who loves to point out anything they can? Mafia! Why would town ever call out someome who is claiming a role that can't ever happen??? Because noone believes your claim. Maybe you are a scumvig but you certainly aren't a town one. | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:19 Holyflare wrote: Which still can't shoot till n2???? ? ??? And? | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:27 Holyflare wrote: In fact it almost makes me super confirmed town for a) not knowing any vigi could shoot till n2 which i would most definitely know as mafia And B) saying you informed mafia instead of just calling you stupid means that i don't actually know whether you are mafia or not because if i was mafia i wouldn't tell you that you informed my own team Wow I'm super confirmed now ty! rofl Nothing in this post makes any sense and you know that. | ||
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On November 30 2014 02:59 iamperfection wrote: Marv you should quote more so when I just read your filter I can know what's going on. You are reading marvs filter instead of the thread? That's not advisable. | ||
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On November 30 2014 03:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: Elvis's completely different playstyle Reads on ezlynch players Getting bailed out at the last moment You're cum and I know it Well, he definitely WAS at some point... | ||
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On November 30 2014 03:23 geript wrote: And then half my reason to playing is gone. All Sent's reasons are terrible. I can't fathom how he could actually believe what he's said. So much this. | ||
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2. Holyflare 6. Sn0_Man 8. Elvis! replaced by Damdred Day 1 10. [UoN]Sentinel 12. Palmar The scumteam is probably in here. Wave was on that list too but he got replaced which implies that he was genuinely frustrated. I reserve judgement on iamp until he posts. 2. Because you have done nothing even remotely towny all game. You were a nonfactor regarding the lynch and everything you said since then was complete and utter bullshit. 3. I am not mad right now. | ||
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On November 30 2014 04:07 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: You sound a little mad right now You should talk about your feelings I ain't. Maybe you should talk about the game instead. | ||
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On November 30 2014 04:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: If you can't handle me at my worst you don't deserve me at my best No idea what you are talking about. I think I will just lynch you day2 if I am alive. | ||
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On November 30 2014 04:11 geript wrote: I'd give JAT confirmed town status but iirc correctly he's had huge filters as mafia before. I've started feeling worse and worse about HF. It's not just not lynching scum. Most of his town games as of late have had ridiculous activity. In my experience HF is less active as mafia. And yes, 12 pages on D1 is low activity for him. More importantly: For someone who's relieved and I presume excited to roll town again his filter including length doesn't really show it. Especially when it gets to the lynch. These are important for two reasons. HF could absolutely push a lynch on JAT or anyone he wanted. As town, HF hammers what he believes to be true. He a conceited asshole who has no doubts whatsoever in his ability (it's part of the reason I enjoy playing with him). But when you look at the lynch it's far more ambivalence. Also note: 3 minutes to read and analyze a filter is quite fast. Seeing as how HF has seemed to be phone posting most if not all the time, that's blazing. More likely though it's just bullshit. For Damdred beaing a great lynch in HF's own words he ends up on a meh GB. Like this is really odd. The argument applies equally both ways. HF thinks these things through as town. He's an exceptionally logic based player. But look at the length of his progression. 1. Would lynch JAT, Palmer, Sent; Damdred ambivalent 2. Shit fight with JAT but is content with no one sheeping him on JAT 3. Damdred (some who has been flawless reading Damdred) is a good lynch 4. Will listen to Damdred 5. Damdred towny enough to move to sent 6. Sent towny enough in filter to switch elsewhere 7. Ends on GB HF's previous 100% lock solid read on Damdred changes. JAT a preferred lynch come rely disappears and is never pushed. Mystical speed reading ability. GB move out of ass over suggestions (Marv/me) toward Sn0. A person (sent) who is a preferred lynch hasn't been read whatsoever but can be cleared in 3 minutes. HF is scum. He's not caring about getting a right lynch. He only cares about a not mafia lynch. This is a good post. HF has not been trying to figure out the game at all leading up to the lynch. | ||
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On November 30 2014 04:23 marvellosity wrote: hello all. just got back from paintballing all day and i'm exhausted. not sure if i'll end up reading things in between until tomorrow, should i be merrily alive. You better do. Give us at least some thoughts before they shoot you. | ||
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On November 30 2014 04:34 marvellosity wrote: just lynch HF if it's lylo/mylo and quote this post if you're a townie and you want backup :p Or we could just do it before that. | ||
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On November 30 2014 05:12 marvellosity wrote: i just clicked palmar's filter - i gather from that i missed a big argument and a rayn modkill? Seriously. Just read the 5 new pages. | ||
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On November 30 2014 05:18 marvellosity wrote: i'm going to assume that makes rayn town and will justify my read on him (hopefully) so let's say you guys are right about HF. something like 2 from sn0/damdred/palmar? i checked various ppl's filters quickly to see who had been posting this phase, sn0 has been totally absent, palmar rubbish/non-existent. sentinel seemed to be trying a bit, superbia seemed to be arguing with HF in a kinda natural way there's also speculation that i can't help making on wave, kinda feel like the replacement thing is an edge towards town from him, hopefully iamp (yes?) will be readable enough anyway You did not even read what sentinel posted, did you? | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote: This guy. Just reading THIS game is asking enough. Reading other games I don't even. So, have you read THIS game? | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:46 marvellosity wrote: he has a very natural style of posting that he can kinda fake as mafia for a while, but he always drops off at some point if he's mafia. he'll always keep the drive as town not necessarily 100% helpful in the short term, but you can try to read him normally in that case Thanks, I guess... | ||
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On November 30 2014 06:56 geript wrote: Taking a break from driving. HolyflRe One of Damdred or Sent One of Sno, super Wave This is where I'm at right now. My money's on HF, sent, Sno but HF Damdred Wave is reasonable too. I don't think JAT and HF fight this much scum-scum; haven't soecifically looked at their interactions but what I remember doesn't look like town-town. Sno's refusal to be helpful whatsoever and is inane. Otherwise Read my filter. What about Palmar? | ||
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On November 30 2014 07:16 geript wrote: I don't really see a team he fits on. I know this isn't whooly accurate but a while back in champions maybe or pyp mini Marv gave a heuristic for reading Palmer. Basically as town, palmer has 2 gears: on a scale of 1-10 he's either a 0 or an 11. Whereas as mafia he's like a 6-7 because he hates playing mafia but tries to not drag his team down by being lunch able. Usually I just read Marv and sheep his read on Palmer in game but that's nonexistent this game. Fair enough. I remember that read. | ||
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On November 30 2014 07:23 Damdred wrote: Well i'm here to answer anything for the next few hours if you have questions I'd rather see you do stuff on your own without us having to force you to. | ||
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On November 30 2014 07:46 marvellosity wrote: easy to read me town when i'm always town in games with you, amirite That's mean. He seemed so proud... | ||
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On November 30 2014 07:49 marvellosity wrote: still super regretting not just sticking on damdred. think there's a pretty good chance he's mafia still I know  | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:06 Palmar wrote: Oh, I guess I'm okay with people who are mafia getting themselves modkilled. Also, I was literally just about to drop a mega analysis on why rayn was mafia, so I'm claiming credit for that. This is 100% true. rofl | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:09 Palmar wrote: I didn't really read, but why did you change your mind on rayn marv? I seem to recall you making some kind of a statement on him early during the day. That was roughly the time he said I could be mafia and HF is town so safe to say not one of his greatest moments. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:11 marvellosity wrote: if people can read that set of quotes and tell me damdred is town, i am all ears that's all i care about now If he flips scum can we finally lynch HF then? | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:13 marvellosity wrote: cannot believe rayn got himself modkilled as mafia that's so epic That's only fair for all the towngames he ruined this way. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:15 marvellosity wrote: it's just so alien to me, because i can't get that angry as mafia I can't get that angry as any alignment. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:18 marvellosity wrote: as for what Palmar brought up, it does make jat look better for that (simply in a vacuum), dunno if rayn is the sort to pop a 3rd vote on his scumbuddy there at the start of the game You need that to read me? r u srs... | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:20 marvellosity wrote: i said in a vacuum, pls read there is a problem with HF being mafia, in that he did his stupid semi-claiming thing and I got roleblocked. How is that a problem? | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:22 marvellosity wrote: because if HF is mafia he should be claiming roleblocked You think they would waste a roleblock for that when nobody believes HF is a role anyways? | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:26 Damdred wrote: Marv might of been hit with the JK rather than mafia blocker also True. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:28 Damdred wrote: Well sent now that i'm probably going to die nows a really good time for you to find the other scum and show how towny you are instead of tunneling on one person (whos the easiest lynch which is one of your points against me is i went after easy lynches). Now would also be a really good time to show us that you are town if you are. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:34 marvellosity wrote: duh rayn calls him out consistently rayn calls him out BUT NEVER WANTS TO PUT HIS VOTE ON HIM Yeah, but if damdred is town he really doesn't have to if half the game is on him. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:35 marvellosity wrote: like you have to tell me why rayn says damdred is probably mafia but then is repeatedly and consistently adamant about me changing to wave even though i am voting someone he thinks is mafia Because it looks good later when we lynch damdred and nobody is listening to his rambling. And if we lynch WoS it is also ok for him. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:36 Damdred wrote: This just really bohters me for some reason, its like super is playing dumb about me and we've played together before and even been on a scum team together. It might not even matter but it really bugs the hell out of me Yes, I thought that was really weird too. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:36 marvellosity wrote: yeah i don't believe it. you do what you want, my vote is not moving. Like I am not saying damdred isn't mafia but I don't think it is as clear as you seem to think. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:38 marvellosity wrote: I mean this is what I did to Toad in Shadow. I literally bussed him for 3 gamedays but never actually tried to get him lynched. Yes, you did. How is that relevant? You are not rayn. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:39 marvellosity wrote: because you're suggesting an epitome of scumplay (calling someone out but never tried to get him lynched) as a counterpoint to damdred being mafia, and it makes no sense I am just surprised that rayn calls a buddy out from the get go. I agree that generally you are absolutely right. | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:42 marvellosity wrote: you can't claim credit for trying to move the lynch off a townie if you were calling that townie mafia at the time meh | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:43 marvellosity wrote: pretty sure rayn was asked about damdred, didn't volunteer it? and basically had nothing else to say other than damdred was mafia because he'd done nothing townie. then tried hard as fuck to get me to move on to wave near deadline when damdred was leading the votes (despite him being a scumread) like he was not happy at all that one of his scumreads was in the lead? na. Did you forget that damdred replaced Elvis who rayn called out very very early? Was he really asked to do that? | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:44 marvellosity wrote: you can't meh, the logic is correct and what you said is wrong meh | ||
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On November 30 2014 08:57 Damdred wrote: Ok JAT, i've only seen mafia HF twice I think. Every time i've seen him (hearthstone, Fanfic) he has never not mentioned or talked to his team mates or totally threw the bus into drive and ran over them to grab that cred. Is this the norm? Or would you say HF usually ignores his team mates? HF doesn't bus without a reason. | ||
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On November 30 2014 09:03 marvellosity wrote: what about rayn on HF? i'm lazy to look atm Like I said - next to nothing both ways. They had one weird and brief conversation talking about how scummy I was (lol) earlier in the day and rayn mentioned an urge to vote HF eod offhand but that was very obviously not a serious attempt to convince anyone. | ||
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On November 30 2014 09:35 Holyflare wrote: Basically I'll reveal it if something cool pops up, otherwise move along and analyse those baddies pushing me. Very helpful. If you think this crap saves you then you are wrong. | ||
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On November 30 2014 09:40 marvellosity wrote: well if he's going to get lynched and he can prove he knows someone went somewhere, it kinda does save him, unless we think he's using his only remaining scumbuddy to try to avoid being lynched... Yeah, IF he can prove anything which I heavily doubt at the moment. | ||
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On November 30 2014 10:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Do I actually have to read this game? Yes. | ||
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On November 30 2014 10:42 geript wrote: Lack of better #2. Like he's been ass and complete worthless all game. He either blue or red. wat | ||
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On November 30 2014 10:49 geript wrote: Wat wat. Like 2 mafia left. Probly 3 blue. HF is idk. Probly stunt. Damdred Mac. 75% town better odds than most you losers. Misread Rayn. Wave dead. Like other then me and Marv none fucknig obvioid town. Like I could weite a case an any of you. It's impossible. wat | ||
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On November 30 2014 10:57 geript wrote: Simple math. 3/4=75%. Like I'm great at reading town. But for most of you I have way more scum points and little to no town points. Nothing to do with math since you can't be sure about this blue or red read. Putting Sn0 as top 2 town there is extremely weird. But you might actually believe this ridiculous stuff. I mean you also believe you can read HF. | ||
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The way he went at me. Especially how he lied about what happened in the pm game trying to make me look bad. | ||
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You were almost 100% sure HF is town day1. Now you think he is scum. Just sayin. | ||
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On November 30 2014 11:06 geript wrote: Rayn doesn't lie as maf. No point. Can be caught. I know out to read Rayn. 100% read on him. He doesn't lie as maf. He did lie as mafia in this very game. It has been proven. | ||
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On November 30 2014 13:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: The odds of happening twice in a row are amazingly slim You mean in YOUR games that would never happen right?l | ||
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On December 01 2014 03:36 Holyflare wrote: ? why? Read his filter. | ||
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On December 01 2014 03:57 Holyflare wrote: rayn doesn't really mention: obi sentinel (he talks to him once or twice and nothing more, looks fluffy) geript (actually at all, he asks "what you think of geript" etc and defends a post against sentinel but never really comments on him) likely a mafia in there ^^ Add yourself to that list. | ||
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On December 01 2014 04:04 Holyflare wrote: dude stfu i'm an un cc'd tracker who can literally prove where either a blue or a red went in the night so just drop it and go qq in your corner that you were wrong all game You are saying that - doesn't mean it's true. Also I have no intention of joining you in the corner. ^_^ | ||
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On December 01 2014 04:04 Holyflare wrote: i've also decided it's actually a blue and not a red Then you should shut up about it. | ||
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On December 01 2014 04:07 Holyflare wrote: it actually really does, you try and fling shit on me like "oh he's claiming to pull the lynch off of damdred!" but i've literally just told you i've come to the conclusion the person is blue so that adds nothing to your claim that i'm doing that there's literally no reason for me to claim tracker unless it was real here, get over it When did I ever said that or anything even remotely similar? | ||
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On December 01 2014 04:12 Holyflare wrote: + Show Spoiler + On November 30 2014 09:39 justanothertownie wrote: Very helpful. If you think this crap saves you then you are wrong. On November 30 2014 09:42 justanothertownie wrote: Yeah, IF he can prove anything which I heavily doubt at the moment. On November 30 2014 09:47 justanothertownie wrote: Why would HF even out this saying he knows a mafia if the only possibility that the person he tracked is mafia is if he is the roleblocker which is - as was mentioned earlier - pretty unlikely given the fact that marv claimed rb. On November 30 2014 09:47 justanothertownie wrote: While there are several possibilities for the tracked person being a blue role... On November 30 2014 09:53 justanothertownie wrote: Oh, there could also be a rolecop. Hm.,, Still not very believable that you would think "this person is obviously mafia!" after tracking someone like that. On November 30 2014 11:00 justanothertownie wrote: Nothing to do with math since you can't be sure about this blue or red read. Putting Sn0 as top 2 town there is extremely weird. But you might actually believe this ridiculous stuff. I mean you also believe you can read HF. your collection of fuckery where you literally just harp on about me being mafia because you can't handle the alternative Yeah, because I am supposed to believe without a doubt when a person that has been extremely scummy all game claims something. Anyways you didn't answer the question. The answer is I never said anything like that and you completely made that up. | ||
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On December 01 2014 04:13 Holyflare wrote: like i literally start doing work after saying i cba and there you go dragging it back to saying "oh you so mafia add yourself to that list huehuehuehuehue" I can say that because it is true. I already mentioned that you and rayn ignored each other basically the whole game. | ||
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On December 01 2014 04:15 Holyflare wrote: you know there's a rber in this game because marv claimed it, there's not even a chance that if it's a mafia rber they'd leave me un rb'd in this game and if i was fake claiming i'd be randomly gambling that there is a) no tracker in this game at all b) that we'd blue snipe every single day so that we could put the rb on me or the person we shoot both of those are retarded 1) Since the rb is on marv there is a chance that it was a jailkeeper. The blue snipe argument is weak. Your only argument is that you could be cced which I admit is a decent one. | ||
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On December 01 2014 04:17 Holyflare wrote: well it's not true so what you're doing is being an asshole for no reason how about just leaving the thread for a while so i can actually play and solve this game now run along and be a good boy now I will not leave the thread but feel free to solve the game I won't hinder you. | ||
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On December 01 2014 06:21 Damdred wrote: Really unable today to be super active at work. But I still think super sent and Sno are my top scums You work on a sunday? Where I live it is a holiday too... Anyways what about tomorrow? You promised to play and we will lynch you 100% if you don't. | ||
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On December 01 2014 06:33 marvellosity wrote: Also came back from an enormous dinner and thought "ooh, 2 new pages" and then it was jat and HF arguing again and I was all like Noones is keeping you from producing pages :p | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + No, this is not an attack on you HF. Don't start crying. | ||
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On December 01 2014 06:47 marvellosity wrote: I have enough pages bbygrl You have less pages than me. Maybe I should start worrying? | ||
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On December 01 2014 06:56 marvellosity wrote: i'm like 2 pages short of my all-time mafia record when i was super motivated (shadow) and that was over 4 gamedays. so probably not Boring. | ||
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On December 01 2014 07:02 marvellosity wrote: sorry I don't believe you. | ||
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On December 01 2014 07:06 marvellosity wrote: LAJ Sounds like a stupid policy. | ||
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On December 01 2014 07:11 marvellosity wrote: i do still think he's town but i'm less sure than i was before. I share this feeling. | ||
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On December 01 2014 07:52 Superbia wrote: Actually feel really good about HF now. Because of the claim? | ||
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On December 01 2014 08:06 Superbia wrote: He was off the lynch list due to the claim. He's on the town list for that obi read lol. Ok. | ||
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On December 01 2014 08:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Then...Find them? You're on the hot seat bro. You mean he is supposed to tell us who his buddy is? | ||
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On December 01 2014 09:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I used this fact as ammo during my one and only successful outing as scum so you should be aware that you don't have anything here. What the fuck are you doing? Why should anyone read you town if you don't do anything? | ||
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On December 01 2014 15:11 ObiWanShinobi wrote: ##vote holyflare Nah. You can get lynched. If you're just going to act like an idiot and nitpick at my posts then I'm just going to vote you and leave. I've explained my thought processes and you're just like "no, lol." Gtfo. It would be appreciated if you answered the stuff he brought up instead of omgussing since I think he has a point. | ||
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On December 01 2014 15:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Uhm. He doesn't? I fail to see what point was worth discussing since I feel like almost everything he brought up has been explained adequately. Especially the point where you list towny stuff from damdred but don't know who else to lynch while people like sentinel and palmar are in the game. | ||
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On December 01 2014 15:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I called Palmar out and you jackasses said that it was scummy because I was supposedly not doing anything either. Now I do something and FUCK HE'S NOT CALLING PALMAR OUT. I'm not even voting Damdred right now. I said if he doesn't pick his play up and look more town, then I'd vote him. Is my vote on him now? Is my read on him solid? It isn't, and it's not, so saying that I'm just going to up and fucking lynch Damdred because I think he could be townie at the end of the day is literally stupid. No, you are instead wasting your vote on the uncced blue who is never going to be lynched today. | ||
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On December 01 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote: Also, this game is 120 pages and HF/Marv/JAT have 60 of those between them. Thanks guys, you're making shit real easy on us! Stop the whining and do something or I will start another argument with HF/start trolling marv. On December 01 2014 18:54 marvellosity wrote: maybe Sn0 = Palmar, this is dumb and snipey for someone who hasn't tried all game. He was definitely talking about Palmar?! On December 01 2014 19:53 marvellosity wrote: well, how about you check out Sn0/Superbia/Obi, none of them have that long filters Yep, if you lazy mofo don't want to read "the big 3" then at least do the rest. | ||
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On December 01 2014 19:55 Palmar wrote: Already did sentinel, am going to do Sn0 next. And Superbia is confirmed town for posting first in the game, remember? Like seriously, people need to take my best analysis more seriously. If this is your reasoning I might take lynching you seriously... | ||
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On December 01 2014 19:58 Palmar wrote: HF being full of shit doesn't really make him mafia. It just makes him HF. It makes him the lynch if he lied. | ||
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On December 02 2014 00:41 marvellosity wrote: Damdred FYI if I do end up moving the lynch off you today, you have to promise to call me top town for it Don't listen to this guy. He is just jealous because I am townier than he is. | ||
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On December 02 2014 00:47 Palmar wrote: Did geript explain what happened that made Sn0 go from "pls modkill" to "top town"? Cause that statistical quote seems awful. Besides the statistic thing there was no explanation that I remember. | ||
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On December 02 2014 00:53 Damdred wrote: Thoughts on what i've posted JAT please. @Palmar, could you go into more specifics and be awesome like that. @Marv i'll think about it but then i'll make the promise and right at eod you will shenanigans the lynch back on me the truth is out there.... I will give thoughts once I am at home. Leaving work now. | ||
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On December 02 2014 00:30 marvellosity wrote: it is just a teensy bit tempting to lynch sn0 It is. The problem with that is that the people openly/blatantly refusing to do stuff are often town. On December 02 2014 02:08 Palmar wrote: No you just demonstrated that you're more Shit than I thought you were so maybe my case that was based on you doing something bad could be explained by you being bad and not only by you being scum This is true. Beware of glass houses though. On December 02 2014 02:22 Sn0_Man wrote: oh ur flaming me for sheeping i'd liek to point out that i was not on board with the gb mislynch That's not a point in your favor. | ||
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On December 02 2014 03:15 geript wrote: Sn0 looks absolutely nothing like his town games. Town Neat and TIdy Hogwarts I'm a Cop Witchcraft Mafia SMB Here's the glaring differences I've seen from his town play: As town he's not a complete asshat and seems to actually enjoy himself As town he's actually makes comments and tries to be helpful regardless of blue/green As town he wants to win but fears looking dumb more than losing As mafia, he's a whiny asshole who trieds to add as little to the thread as humanly possible. Skimming those filters I really have to agree here. Sn0 voluntarily participates in every towngame and the attitude from this game is completely absent. | ||
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On December 02 2014 03:33 geript wrote: On the plus side, Damdred does bus as mafia True. | ||
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On December 02 2014 04:33 geript wrote: Yes, I'll be clear. That shit is sketch. But why are you not considering his meta whatsoever? No offense Obi, but HF he's not a great player. He'll do scummy shit. I can go back and look to see how many times he's been mislynched if that helps. I just seem him at best as the #3 best lynch for today at best. I can attest that mislynching him is pretty easy :D | ||
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On December 02 2014 04:43 Damdred wrote: I'm really trying not to suck the tunnel is pretty great here though. Me rayn sno/sent can't be mafia together I think even using my bus tendencies The thing is though - you are still the main wagon. Why are you so defeated? Where is the fight if you are town? | ||
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On December 02 2014 04:45 Sn0_Man wrote: I gave up not-sucking ages ago marv's doing his marv thing and nearly everybody else who is actually trying just wanted to be rude and unfun so meh. ps i think u forgot superbia You are right. I literally forgot superbia. Not a good sign. | ||
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On December 02 2014 04:46 Holyflare wrote: why do you "think"...? it's literally impossible because you are "town"?? Come on now... | ||
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On December 02 2014 04:47 Sn0_Man wrote: I usually try checking the OP before making posts with lists in them You really want to be lynched, don't you? | ||
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In that case you probably shouldn't join mafia games btw. | ||
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On December 02 2014 04:49 Sn0_Man wrote: not really Well, fair warning: Commenting like you did in that post instead of posting anything of use makes it more likely for me to lynch you. | ||
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On December 02 2014 04:53 Damdred wrote: I'm defeated because no matter how much I try to do or say people say meh and switch back to me. Its insane bit oh well How do you know if you aren't even trying? | ||
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On December 02 2014 05:03 Damdred wrote: am trying when I'm in thread I just know I'm lynched We seem to understand the term "trying" in a very different way. If you keep resigning like this and then flip town I will be really disappointed with you. | ||
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On December 02 2014 05:18 Damdred wrote: I've given my thoughts sno is making things up and acting scummy but yea I'll flip town Then give more thoughts. Give us a read on every player (yeah, you kinda did so) and compare their play to other games. Tel us why you are town and why we should not lynch you. Do anything. Getting mislynched is pretty awful and if you don't fight against it I will just assume that you are scum. | ||
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On December 02 2014 05:27 Palmar wrote: JAT you said there was still reasons to wagon me. Can you elaborate? Being useless and therefore unreadable. Basically a policy lynch. | ||
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Pretty much, yeah. You had some decentish posts but nothing that wouldn't be easily doable as mafia. | ||
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On December 02 2014 05:48 Holyflare wrote: so why is obi not here defending damdred who he town reads and even said he would defend if that was the case? Do you expect us to have an answer for that? I don't know. Maybe he IS scum. But in my opinion his play is different from werewolf. | ||
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On December 02 2014 06:02 marvellosity wrote: I'm painting in a flat without a PC. Essentially afk Will that chance until deadline or are you content not deciding this lynch? | ||
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On December 02 2014 06:11 marvellosity wrote: I'm content not deciding tbh. I think my vote is where I want it I really don't like this answer. | ||
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I don't think that is hard to understand. On December 02 2014 06:18 Holyflare wrote: if you think damd is mafia then they'd have to be on him...? not like they can push anyone else today Maybe. But I am not that sure about damdred and those 2 on the wagon aren't making me feel better about it. | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:27 Superbia wrote: Real quick. Who has played with sn0 before? I need a link to a town game and possibly a scum game as well. Geript listed some games earlier. Look into his filter. | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:10 Superbia wrote: Why are you only interested in the game when you're about to get lynched? Awful and unhelpful post. On December 02 2014 07:16 marvellosity wrote: I could switch to sn0 tbh, he just disappeared when the pressure went away Yeah. I very much agree. I can live with a loss due to lazy idiots that refuse to play as town and get mislynched but I have a serious problem with losing against this kind of mafiaplay. I don't think I want to tolerate this kind of gameplay. | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:35 Palmar wrote: I haven't actually double checked if geript's observations are true, but if they are this guy should be lynched with fire. Then skim a few of them and check. He is definitely right about a big difference between this game and the towngames he listed. The scumgame isn't quite like this but more similar I guess? | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:36 Sn0_Man wrote: I've certainly never played a game this lazy as any alignment It's not entirely about that. In your towngames you actually play the game and do things from the get go. | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:40 Sn0_Man wrote: i've been over why from the get-go i gave up on doing thigns this game Then you can just die as far as I am concerned. If you are town consider not joining a game again if you don't intend to play it. | ||
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You shouldn't have said that... | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:48 Holyflare wrote: no it's 100000000000000000000000000000% not a cop Then it has to be a rolecop almost?! Right? | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:49 Holyflare wrote: well it could actually be parity Then let's ignore it. | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:50 geript wrote: Get back on Sn0. Can't be doc unless HF tracked mafia. Are you kidding me? | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:53 Holyflare wrote: i'm going to post who i tracked at deadline tomorrow in case Probably a good idea. | ||
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On December 02 2014 07:53 geript wrote: He claims targeting Marv. Marv was Rb'd. HF claimed a track to JAT. JAT hasn't claimed RB. Track + any cop role = OP in a mini. Period. JAT has seemingly denied mason. Doc x2 = broken. Unless we assume one of HF/Sn0 is lying then things don't add up for a mini setup whatsoever. The tracked person could also be mafia?! | ||
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Palmar did you save marv? | ||
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maybe we should just lynch damdred or sentinel and decide tomorrow | ||
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##Unvote ##Vote: Sentinel | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:03 marvellosity wrote: Obi had his vote on hf? For realsies? Yeah, pretty fucking awful. | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:03 marvellosity wrote: Had zero time to think, timing of palmar claim made more sense That's why we don't lynch one of them -.- We could have killed sentinel... | ||
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Didn't want to lynch damdred, didn't want to lynch between the protective roles. Came to late I know. | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:05 marvellosity wrote: Because I'm a really obvious hit? Lol How stupid is this. They are not both fake so why do they need to explain this? | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:08 Palmar wrote: Sure. In fact if Sn0 is town mafia has DEFINITELY a roleblocker AND a vigilante left to counter 2 protective roles. How would they have a roleblocker or do you think they hid it n1? | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:09 Holyflare wrote: there's no way we have a doctor and a jk... just no way Then sn0 is fake. Fakeclaiming doc when you are about to get lynched is not exactly unheard of. | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:08 Palmar wrote: Sure. In fact if Sn0 is town mafia has DEFINITELY a roleblocker AND a vigilante left to counter 2 protective roles. Wouldn't rolecop + vig also make sense somehow? -> HFs check looks extremely suspicious then. | ||
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I think at deadline is still probably best. Right? | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:13 Palmar wrote: maybe. If you're green Sn0, I will literally find where you live and take a dump in your bed. lol | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:16 Superbia wrote: sn0 being the 1-shot mafia vigi and doing the fake-claim to ensure double KP tonight makes the most sense. Possible. | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:16 justanothertownie wrote: If I had to guess right now mafia is between Sn0, HFs check, Sentinel and maybe also Obi. So 3 or 4 people. We still have a chance. HF could of course also be fake :/ | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:18 Sn0_Man wrote: how come people haven't figured out that I wouldn't be useless if I was maf lol You shouldn't be fucking useless as doc either. Wtf man. There is no way you get shot for being a little more towny with this player list. | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:19 Holyflare wrote: well i was at least trying to push the lynches in directions that weren't damdred today I did that too. Sort of | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:47 marvellosity wrote: so it could be possible we have doc/jk if tracker is our investigative role, because it's super weak Then HFs check has to be mafia. | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:49 geript wrote: Because that means that who HF tracked is one of the following: Miller Parity Cop Role Cop Wait, starting masons, weird. guess it didn't matter. It gives us the setup. Setup could be something like: Doc, Tracker, Miller x2, Vet vs RB, Framer, Rolecop OR Doc, Tracker, Miller vs RB, Framer, Goon. The first would be odd with 2 protective roles and I think I've run a setup almost exactly like the second. Or it could be something like: JK, Tracker, Parity Cop, Miller x1-2 vs RB, Rolecop, Framer. I've seen the setup before somewhere (maybe BH ran it) where JK in theory balances out the double investigative role because you can't both protect and investigate. It's a counter wifom setup. 2 wandering Millers seems unlikely, no? | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:55 geript wrote: In a setup with 2 investigative roles, I don't think so. My usual rule of thumb for trackers is that they need an equal number of town and mafia to be able to track. I wouldn't balk at 2 millers but 1 is fine there too. How do 2 wandering millers make sense though? According to your logic the second investigative role would be another tracker then... | ||
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On December 02 2014 08:56 marvellosity wrote: essentially i'm just dying to know holyflare's track :d Yeah, me too. | ||
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On December 02 2014 09:03 Superbia wrote: Does framer interact with parity? Of course. | ||
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On December 02 2014 13:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why did Jat move his vote at the last second to someone who could never feasibly be lynched in that short a period of time? Think hard about it I am sure you will find the solution. If you dare comparing my vote to yours again I might start supporting HF. | ||
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On December 02 2014 22:24 Palmar wrote: I am not following HF's plan, I will do my own thing. so hardcore | ||
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On December 03 2014 00:24 marvellosity wrote: because he's a strong sassy black woman and she ain't takin no shit from no man I read a similar post about you recently. It made me laugh pretty hard. | ||
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On December 03 2014 01:00 marvellosity wrote: i've decided sentinel is a million percent mafia See? Should have lynched that guy instead of damdred. I mean even if he by some miracle didn't get a mafia rolepm he is still a million percent mafia. | ||
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On December 03 2014 01:33 Palmar wrote: Also, in case I play dota or wow tonight and don't come online before I'm dead (which seems sort of likely), lynch marv in lylo, but don't even consider it until then. If he hasn't found mafia by lylo he's either a) mafia or b) bad, in which case it's a glorious way to end the game anyway. Don't lynch HF, he's probably town. JAT is actually probably town too, he's just bad. Last time a game was going sorta badly it was blatantly obvious that JAT literally didn't give a shit about the game and he was mafia, I said something super smart like "JAT knows this game is a train wreck and he doesn't care", but I didn't follow through on it. You said JAT is probably town before you got lynched in that game smartass. On December 03 2014 02:45 marvellosity wrote: if you played in Noir you'd understand the rage >_> On December 03 2014 02:50 marvellosity wrote: Definitely the worst play i've ever seen. I'll never forget. I'm sure jat can tell you all about it too The funny thing is: the guy who did this doc fakeclaim as VT (Mocste) - I had a redcheck on him. I was parity cop and checked him different against a flipped towny and I still thought he was town (correctly). Fucking piece of shit game. | ||
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wat... I don't normally post like you do?! | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:28 Superbia wrote: Btw, no way I would be the parity because if I wanted a for sure green check I would've checked GB. Which would be an awful play. | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:29 Superbia wrote: Also JAT would probably be a horrible RC check. Explain. | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:33 Superbia wrote: Same with Marv, I had you top town and as being VT. No idea where mafia would get the idea of wasting an RC check on you. You would've been a perfect target for KP if anything. Leave RC for more questionable townies. You can't have meas VT. I play every blue role exactly like I play VT. Everyone should do that btw. | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:32 Superbia wrote: Obviously I would've checked with the host before submitting such an action. I thought the parity cops in all-stars could check dead people, but maybe I'm getting confused with checks that end up dead the same night. No, they can't. And even if they could it still would be an awful play. | ||
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On December 03 2014 07:42 Superbia wrote: I would not personally make the play of trying to get a for sure green-check to start off with (ensuring you know who's on what side of the different check). But if the parity would prefer that meta, and could check dead targets, it would be a fine play. No. It's not a fine play. It's wasting a check. GJ Palmar btw. Thought you would do it, | ||
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On December 03 2014 20:00 Palmar wrote: I was supertown! JAT even said so, and my CC didn't even consider me a viable option for mafia. You weren't supertown. I thought your claim meant you were very likely town. Thankfully superbias watch on HF solved the game. Selfish from geript to concede for the both of you but you couldn't have won. The only supertown scum in this game was geript. Respect. I don't remember ever thinking he was really towny in a game we were both in so I thought he stepped it up and basically gave him a pass. | ||
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On December 03 2014 13:05 Holyflare wrote: yeh getting modkilled as mafia is.... terrible You mean like getting modkilled as town? | ||
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On December 03 2014 20:27 marvellosity wrote: i had my vote on mafia at some point this game bro did you? Irrelevant. You didn't push for his lynch at all. Also I vote less in general so your chances of randomly hitting mafia with your vote is way higher. AND I had my vote on Sentinel at one point who was mafia regardless of what Shiaopi is trying to tell us. ^^ | ||
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On December 03 2014 20:31 marvellosity wrote: so "no" was your answer it was a "no, but..." | ||
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At least I can read you. | ||
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11-29-2014 09:51 PM ET (US) I'm drun If I was in the game I would hammer mafia -> look at GBs lynch list -> laugh your ass off | ||
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