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On November 28 2014 11:05 marvellosity wrote: I literally said to Superbia that I'd like to see it play out with you...
remember that fanfic game, i said i was sad that i coached you, that was only if you were town, because you were saying/pushing some really dumb shit. you were mafia so it was ok.
*shrug*
No, you were sad because I voted you for no reason.
I'm town here so you can start crying a river.
I can't see how this is ridiculous.
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On November 28 2014 11:07 marvellosity wrote: ##Vote: GlowingBear
Bah.
GG. Sheep marv. He's got the read. I'm a red magikarp.
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On November 28 2014 11:04 GlowingBear wrote: Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that's the read I have on all this discussion. But, by the way you were discussing, this idea is likely.
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On November 28 2014 11:13 marvellosity wrote: most of all i just want damdy to post
g'night
You can also tell us what you've got from the outcome between me and Superbia.
Kthxbai
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On November 28 2014 11:41 geript wrote: Right now I'm thinking about GB. He had the early tow read on Obi that seemed meh. The recent stuff of his has bugged me too but that was from following instead of reading so I want to catch up on that. Damdrd kinda bugs me because he's a bit more active as town and I think he'd be super excited to play and post if Elvis rolled town. Palmer is palmering. I know I'm forgetting other stuff. What do you think of HF?
"Think of me with kindness Please remember former days Sweet the song that once we sang The silent parting ways"
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If damdred doesn't like me, the probability of we both being town raises exponentially
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I'm really annoyed about people scumreading me or calling me dumb.
Can you guys break down those reads to this dumb magikarp so I can understand what I'm being accused of?
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On November 28 2014 11:57 Damdred wrote: Then what does it mean that I really like Geript up to page 25 mean gb hrm!!!???!!!
It means you're
+ Show Spoiler +
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Btw WoS sounds completely different from the guilty mafia WoS. You're subduing much more townish here. It's marv I'm not liking.
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Gonna sleep.
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On November 28 2014 12:07 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 12:05 GlowingBear wrote: Btw WoS sounds completely different from the guilty mafia WoS. You're subduing much more townish here. It's marv I'm not liking. Pls you don't know what I sound like as mafia. You only caught me in Guilty due to host error and process of elimination. (And stupid fucking Robik).
I'm saying that you sound different from that game. If I caught you or not is not in question
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On November 28 2014 12:07 Damdred wrote: Why don't you like marv gb
It's in my filter damdy.
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On November 28 2014 12:11 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 12:08 GlowingBear wrote:On November 28 2014 12:07 WaveofShadow wrote:On November 28 2014 12:05 GlowingBear wrote: Btw WoS sounds completely different from the guilty mafia WoS. You're subduing much more townish here. It's marv I'm not liking. Pls you don't know what I sound like as mafia. You only caught me in Guilty due to host error and process of elimination. (And stupid fucking Robik). I'm saying that you sound different from that game. If I caught you or not is not in question And what about me sounds different? You sound different too, and in that game you were town.
You're actually contributing. You're now putting genuine thoughts and taking stances that are your own. You did not complain about the joke phase being gone (you wanted so much that the joke phase would go on on guilty mafia that you even pusses Kelsen sc off).
My town playstyle is constantly changing. For bad, it seems. I was never called dumb and stupid so many times since I started playing. It's annoying the shit out if me, specially when my reads are right.
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On November 28 2014 12:29 geript wrote: @gB. Why does your meta change so much? Is it intentional?
No it's not. It's because I'm constantly trying to refine my gameplay. I always learn a lesson from each game.
I also think of my role as town in each game, mostly considering the playlist. As a lot of good analysers signed in, my plan as town was to point out things and generate discussion, and evaluate other players reads. I'm looking scummy for that and I sincerely have no idea why
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On November 28 2014 12:49 Damdred wrote: @GB, when you get back talk to me more about your marv misgivings there really isn't much in your filter about why hes scummy besides you don't see him trying to solve the game in the way you want him to. Could you point out some things in his filter to me that you think points to scum marv and a scum mindset rather than town marv?
@Wave, Who would you want to lynch right now if you could and all of us would sheep you onto it?
I will do this soon.
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Marv thinks my early townread on obi is weird, yet he also townread him.
On November 27 2014 20:23 marvellosity wrote: Superbia's underwhelming but it's a little thin.
Got nothing on Sn0.
One of the reasons I liked Obi is because he asked Superbia about the post he made saying Sn0 was contributing to look like he was contributing. I almost responded to that post as super weak right then, but decided to leave it, and a couple posts later Obi questioned it. And Superbia deflected.
Unsure whether it's early game silliness related as yet
You may not agree with the motives I bring to townread someone, but when you've got the same impression from the same player, it's nitpicking to say the person is giving weird read. Calling me scummy for that looks scummy to me.
On November 27 2014 20:40 marvellosity wrote: my read on GB was Obi related, I thought Obi's question about reading him was pertinent and correct, also I thought GB pulled up a really generic post of Obi's to justify the townread.
dunno, maybe he actually believes it though.
So, now he says he doesn't know if I really believe that. So his willing to shoot me is justified by a null read. I'd expect town to push me, to ask me questions before calling someone scum. Instead, marv thought I was scum before justifying it, and then, when justified, it's a null read. He doesn't hard push me after that, which is odd, for I am his leaning scum.
So, JAT starts pushing Rayn, and marv intervenes with this:
On November 27 2014 21:04 marvellosity wrote: In rayn's defence, JAT, he often misremembers how events occurred in past games. I've noticed it several times before.
If marv has a leaning scum on Rayn, if he is interested in discovering rayn's alignment: 1) Why is he letting JAT do the dirty work, instead committing to it himself? 2) Why does he intervene like that to make Rayn comfortable with the push? See, he is taking a very passive stance regarding his scumreads, which is a way to hide, to not put his hand in the fire. But still, while commenting things like that, he looks contributive.
Now, compare these two posts:
On November 28 2014 02:10 marvellosity wrote: well your case definitely demonstrates GB's play is weird as shit Superbia. Whether that makes him mafia is another question.
Let's lynch wave instead?
On November 28 2014 06:11 marvellosity wrote: Sn0, snap-reads on GB-Elvis-Superbia?
They're all grouped in my head.
This doesn't make sense. He's being scumreading me. Then he says he is semi gone on me being mafia. Then he says Superbia's post about me it's good and shows that my gameplay is weird, but that doesn't makes me mafia. Now he includes me in a group where there might be mafia in there. I can't understand this stream of thought. And remember: I gave him all of my scum games and he didn't compare any of them with my current gameplay yet, just what he remembers while playing with me. He asked those games for nothing.
Another example of him being wishy washy, being passive:
On November 28 2014 06:20 marvellosity wrote: well i think i townread rayn now i also think i townread holyflare and geript i townread obi sentinel might be town for terrible reasons palmar wildcard
already my list is shrinking
I have no problem with townreads. But it's already page 6-7 in his filter and he doesn't have a single scumread instead of calling me scum but not really. It bothers me that he isn't pushing anybody, attacking anybody. He is still taking a very passive instance. Passive stance =\= activity. You can be very active while ACTING passive.
Again a non committal post, on spoiler:
+ Show Spoiler +On November 28 2014 06:25 marvellosity wrote: the thing with HF is, right, I think he would be a bit more "rounded" as mafia. He went hard out the gates at jat and ended up with a list full of non-players and jat, who he kinda seems to be tunnelling. I think as mafia he'd be going at someone more than his original case on jat. but at the same time he backed off jat after i lectured him about it (I like to think it was me). I think a lot of his posts feel ok.
i think i missed quite a few of HF's scumgames, but i remember last time i felt ok about holyflare in... maybe cell? i was right there.
anyway it's not strong but that's the lean.
Now this:
On November 28 2014 08:34 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 08:29 justanothertownie wrote:On November 28 2014 08:21 marvellosity wrote: well Palmar was only a wildcard.
Superbia your post reads pretty well to me, but my gut isn't wholeheartedly in it just yet. I'd like to see it play out between you.
I will say that that post does a better job of demonstrating suspicion than your last one did which demonstrated "badness" more, for wont of a better word Yeah? I think he is on the list for now. I only remember FFL2 and the werewolf game and superbias reads in those games where extremely superficial and non commital according to my memory. I'll check out Superbia's games at some point before EOD. My memory of Superbia is being unmemorable as mafia, it's how i casually guessed at him the couple of games i vaguely saw. not seen him play town i don't think. I just meant he hadn't bought my vote on GB yet.
God if Superbia looks good, if he has no information on Elvis, if he has been leaning scum on me, and he thinks there is mafia between us three, WHY ISN'T HIM CONVINCED THAT I'M MAFIA??? Marv is extremely passive.
Now, there is also that WoS push that felt completely weird. His vote was completely random and he was convinced by something that shouldn't be motive to drop a pressure vote. Their argument was pretty bad and sterile. Me and Superbia engaged on strong arguments but marv didn't commented on them. He said he would like to see the outcome. Funny. He didn't want to see the outcome of JAT and Rayn, who he had scumreads, and he commented on them. But on me and Superbia? Nah.
Now that we've finished the discussion, marv didn't comment on the outcome. Lol
Marv, you were going to say you have 11 pages filter right?  Two things:
On November 27 2014 09:17 marvellosity wrote: HF, I met someone just like you in the champion of champions game. He had like a zillion more posts than everyone else and flipped mafia
You also posted a 58 pages filter game here. I think that, for that pre game stuff, I believe you would go for the active mafia after these things. Your filter argument is utter shit and it makes me believe even more that you're scum as you know you're very capable to keep activity high as mafia.
##Unvote ##Vote: marv
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And now I'm late for work because I've spent a huge time doing this on a phone.
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On November 29 2014 00:49 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2014 00:46 GlowingBear wrote:Marv thinks my early townread on obi is weird, yet he also townread him. On November 27 2014 20:23 marvellosity wrote: Superbia's underwhelming but it's a little thin.
Got nothing on Sn0.
One of the reasons I liked Obi is because he asked Superbia about the post he made saying Sn0 was contributing to look like he was contributing. I almost responded to that post as super weak right then, but decided to leave it, and a couple posts later Obi questioned it. And Superbia deflected.
Unsure whether it's early game silliness related as yet You may not agree with the motives I bring to townread someone, but when you've got the same impression from the same player, it's nitpicking to say the person is giving weird read. Calling me scummy for that looks scummy to me. This is an absolutely terrible point, and I can't believe you are so bad as to bring this up? If you're townreading someone for the wrong reasons, it's absolutely right to bring it up, even if i'm also townreading the guy this is mindbogglingly bad GB
Of course you can call that out. Reading me scum for it? Hardly.
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On November 28 2014 21:07 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 28 2014 12:29 geript wrote: @gB. Why does your meta change so much? Is it intentional? No it's not. It's because I'm constantly trying to refine my gameplay. I always learn a lesson from each game. I also think of my role as town in each game, mostly considering the playlist. As a lot of good analysers signed in, my plan as town was to point out things and generate discussion, and evaluate other players reads. I'm looking scummy for that and I sincerely have no idea why
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Funny though marv, you've only picked the easily defendable parts of my case, but didn't explain the bolded.
Being wishy washy on one post is suspicious but not mafiaish. Being passive throughout the game is.
By the way I'm rescinding my town read on obi since he is playing just like he played when he was mafia
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