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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 21 2014 09:13 GMT
#42
Just finished school today so I have some time to spare. I've played 3 games on TL before so I'm still kind of new. I can \in if there's a spare slot.
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 23 2014 07:23 GMT
#57
/confirm
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 24 2014 23:27 GMT
#99
Student mafia, eh.... Did you know? Sperm whales have the largest brain of any animal.
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 24 2014 23:39 GMT
#103
On November 25 2014 08:20 sicklucker wrote:
imo day ones are stupid. I never take too much info out of day one but I do try to get some and start the game rolling I try to take charge as town. Im certainly not going to vote breske because of it , this is the kind of thing you look back at when you have more information.


Kind of agree with your day one idea. Not to say that it's stupid, but it takes some time to make a decent read.

On November 25 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:23 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
boring im town again afk


Looks like we found our d1 lynch already

##Vote: Sicklucker


Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy?

Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way.


This is pretty townie. This got me at least one slight town read


Anyone could have said this. It's not uncommon to have a policy lynch on lurkers. I don't know why you would come out and say that it looks town. Unless you're going to say that it's a meta-play and you're trying to judge Breshke on his reaction to you saying he's town, but then you could say that everything is a play and you wouldn't have to be held to anything you said.

Anyway on the topic of policy, I wouldn't necessarily lynch all lurkers on day 1. Only if there was no reasonable candidate scum lynch.
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 24 2014 23:41 GMT
#104
On November 25 2014 08:36 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 08:27 meatpudding wrote:
Student mafia, eh.... Did you know? Sperm whales have the largest brain of any animal.


Cool stuff what do you think of the couple things that have been posted so far


I have my eye on sicklucker. Not really sure what he's up to but I expect he's fishing for reads. I would like to see what he comes up with by end of day. Otherwise I'm marking it as suspicious.
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 25 2014 00:11 GMT
#115
On November 25 2014 08:48 Damdred wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 08:41 meatpudding wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:36 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:27 meatpudding wrote:
Student mafia, eh.... Did you know? Sperm whales have the largest brain of any animal.


Cool stuff what do you think of the couple things that have been posted so far


I have my eye on sicklucker. Not really sure what he's up to but I expect he's fishing for reads. I would like to see what he comes up with by end of day. Otherwise I'm marking it as suspicious.


I know its not much posted so far but is there anyone else you are looking at or hinking about?

Not really. Breshke and HtS look like they're trying to reason their way through the game. You're asking lots of questions which is good. Not enough info for me to put you on by bang list.

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 08:39 meatpudding wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:20 sicklucker wrote:
imo day ones are stupid. I never take too much info out of day one but I do try to get some and start the game rolling I try to take charge as town. Im certainly not going to vote breske because of it , this is the kind of thing you look back at when you have more information.


Kind of agree with your day one idea. Not to say that it's stupid, but it takes some time to make a decent read.

On November 25 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:23 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
boring im town again afk


Looks like we found our d1 lynch already

##Vote: Sicklucker


Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy?

Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way.


This is pretty townie. This got me at least one slight town read


Anyone could have said this. It's not uncommon to have a policy lynch on lurkers. I don't know why you would come out and say that it looks town. Unless you're going to say that it's a meta-play and you're trying to judge Breshke on his reaction to you saying he's town, but then you could say that everything is a play and you wouldn't have to be held to anything you said.

Anyway on the topic of policy, I wouldn't necessarily lynch all lurkers on day 1. Only if there was no reasonable candidate scum lynch.


Could you alk more about the bolded and where lurker lynch/policy lynch came from.


Maybe I could explain the bolded part a bit better. sicklucker opens by saying he's going to afk. I guess he was fishing for a reaction from someone and Breshke jumps in and votes, because an afk town is essentially useless. (Though I would usually let the modkill go through).

Now sicklucker isn't playing afk at all, he seems to be poking and fishing around for responses. Could be ok, or could be suspicious.

I think it was way too early to give a town read for that just based on Breshke's response. Really easy for anyone to make that call. Now, since sicklucker backflipped on the afk deal, maybe he is just saying Breshke is town, and fishing for more info, or maybe he really is posting that as a read.

If it's a genuine read, I don't really think it's justified based on that small interaction. If it's fishing, then I can't really trust any of his reads because he can use that excuse to drop false information.

Actually on first read I thought he was saying that Breshke's vote was townie, but now it looks like he was saying HtS's defense was townie. Hm, maybe it's not so bad. Would like to hear whar sicklucker is really thinking now.

Often in other games players have put forward a Lynch all Lurkers and Lynch all Liars policy. I don't really agree with these but I was wondering if anyone else follows policy votes. Also in other games we have posted our reads in Marry/Bang/Kill format. I'll be doing that once some more people have posted.


Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 25 2014 23:37 GMT
#312
HTS, do you have any read on kush?
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 26 2014 00:18 GMT
#325
Ok, here's where I stand right now. If you're name's not on the list then consider it a null read for the time being.

Marry
Breshke
Bang
HTS
Trfel
Kill
Damdred
sicklucker
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 26 2014 00:21 GMT
#326
I haven't really made good reads on most people. Some players are spamming and trolling a lot. Not really able to get a good idea.

bats and oats seem to know each other and are talking a lot. I would like to see you two focus less on each other.


HTS

Being very defensive. At least he is asking stuff and showing some reasoning. I think he is fairly cautious but nothing stands out that would make me call him scummy. In fact I would lean town on HTS at this point.

Breshke

His first vote for sicklucker is not alignment indicative in any way. At least it put some pressure on him to start the game.

On November 25 2014 11:52 Breshke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 09:35 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:29 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:24 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:09 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:06 sicklucker wrote:
Breske knows im super active and push the thread. I expect him to give me more time since he should be able to read me better then anyone else in this game since hes played the most with me. I also think ill read him better then most people here so I wont pass judgement.


What if i decide to play completely different to last game? I don't think one games experience is enough to have a good read on someone at least im not going to claim that on you.


I agree some but of all people I dont expect you to insta vote me. We just played for like 2 weeks you know I cant keep my mouth shut for very long. If anything I talk too much as town


So you think you talk to much as town but are suprised that i pushed on you ebcause you said you were going afk which is an excuse to not post as you didnt really go afk.

Anyway damdred what do you have so far?


i have a two town leans, a few nulls and a slight scum lean


Is this a thing people do so newbies dont sheep them early? Care to elaborate anymore?


I would read Breshke as town just because of this post.

sicklucker

I said it before, his setups and meta-plays look really weird. If he pulls some valuable info then ok, I will accept the value of it. But right now I think that he is setting himself up to distance from his own posts and I don't like that. Kind of scummy but not my highest priority lynch.

On November 25 2014 08:00 sicklucker wrote:
do i think breske is mafia*


His counter onto Breshke seems really scummy though. Easy to see that his vote was because sicklucker is at best donkey town.

LS

Says oats is being very constructive. Not sure I 100% agree with that read.

kush

afk's. Reads damdred as top scum. Then switches votes to cock even though he wasn't in his scumpile. Slightly scummy I think.

Damdred

Opens with 'ignore me,' yea right. I like his line of questioning tho, very active. Seems very defensive of sickluckers play. Pushing on sicklucker a lot though. I'm slightly suspicious of the early interaction between Damdred, HTS, and sicklucker (see below)

slam

On November 25 2014 11:32 Alakaslam wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
boring im town again afk



Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 07:23 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
boring im town again afk


Looks like we found our d1 lynch already

##Vote: Sicklucker


FOR THE GLORY THAT IS KENPACHI!!!


## VOTE BRESHKE!!!

Interpret me sson


Why vote breshke? Because you're scum. Or did you even read the thread. I have no idea why you would want to vote him as town. Anyway you unvote before he has a chance to respond and then go afk.

cock

Interaction at the beginning seems weird. Most posts are devoid of anything to read.

Oats

Some defensive posting. seems to say a lot without saying a lot.

Trfel

Super logic. I'm not sure I follow his argument, but at least he has an argument.

batsnacks

Basically just tunnelled on oats. Not sure I can lean either way with this.


OK something that caught my eye in the very first posts (p5). sicklucker sets his 'trap' and Breshke falls into it. Damdred and sicklucker set up some rapport. Then HTS questions Breshke's response. sicklucker jumps on it straight away to say how townie it is that HTS would defend him like this. He says 'A mafia would be unlikely to defend me.' At this point I see Damdred trying to pull info from sicklucker, kind of indirectly trying to defend him.

So, I don't think that HTS is mafia. But if sicklucker is, then I wouldn't be surprised if Damdred was his partner. To me, it looks like they are trying to align, without directly giving each other a town read.

Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 26 2014 00:26 GMT
#329
On November 26 2014 09:22 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 09:18 meatpudding wrote:
Ok, here's where I stand right now. If you're name's not on the list then consider it a null read for the time being.

Marry
Breshke
Bang
HTS
Trfel
Kill
Damdred
sicklucker


I am not familiar with this terminology. I assume you mean kill is like a lynch/scum vote. but what is "marry" and "bang"?

Also taking note of your inquiry, on kush, he did not strike me one way or another going through the thread, but let me filter and pull together his posts for a better read.


Marry is towniest of town. Bang, I would consider you town for now, but it just might not last. Kill is scum.
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 26 2014 00:31 GMT
#333
On November 26 2014 09:27 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 09:21 meatpudding wrote:
I haven't really made good reads on most people. Some players are spamming and trolling a lot. Not really able to get a good idea.

bats and oats seem to know each other and are talking a lot. I would like to see you two focus less on each other.


HTS

Being very defensive. At least he is asking stuff and showing some reasoning. I think he is fairly cautious but nothing stands out that would make me call him scummy. In fact I would lean town on HTS at this point.

Breshke

His first vote for sicklucker is not alignment indicative in any way. At least it put some pressure on him to start the game.

On November 25 2014 11:52 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:35 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:29 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:24 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:09 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:06 sicklucker wrote:
Breske knows im super active and push the thread. I expect him to give me more time since he should be able to read me better then anyone else in this game since hes played the most with me. I also think ill read him better then most people here so I wont pass judgement.


What if i decide to play completely different to last game? I don't think one games experience is enough to have a good read on someone at least im not going to claim that on you.


I agree some but of all people I dont expect you to insta vote me. We just played for like 2 weeks you know I cant keep my mouth shut for very long. If anything I talk too much as town


So you think you talk to much as town but are suprised that i pushed on you ebcause you said you were going afk which is an excuse to not post as you didnt really go afk.

Anyway damdred what do you have so far?


i have a two town leans, a few nulls and a slight scum lean


Is this a thing people do so newbies dont sheep them early? Care to elaborate anymore?


I would read Breshke as town just because of this post.

sicklucker

I said it before, his setups and meta-plays look really weird. If he pulls some valuable info then ok, I will accept the value of it. But right now I think that he is setting himself up to distance from his own posts and I don't like that. Kind of scummy but not my highest priority lynch.

On November 25 2014 08:00 sicklucker wrote:
do i think breske is mafia*


His counter onto Breshke seems really scummy though. Easy to see that his vote was because sicklucker is at best donkey town.

LS

Says oats is being very constructive. Not sure I 100% agree with that read.

kush

afk's. Reads damdred as top scum. Then switches votes to cock even though he wasn't in his scumpile. Slightly scummy I think.

Damdred

Opens with 'ignore me,' yea right. I like his line of questioning tho, very active. Seems very defensive of sickluckers play. Pushing on sicklucker a lot though. I'm slightly suspicious of the early interaction between Damdred, HTS, and sicklucker (see below)

slam

On November 25 2014 11:32 Alakaslam wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
boring im town again afk



On November 25 2014 07:23 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
boring im town again afk


Looks like we found our d1 lynch already

##Vote: Sicklucker


FOR THE GLORY THAT IS KENPACHI!!!


## VOTE BRESHKE!!!

Interpret me sson


Why vote breshke? Because you're scum. Or did you even read the thread. I have no idea why you would want to vote him as town. Anyway you unvote before he has a chance to respond and then go afk.

cock

Interaction at the beginning seems weird. Most posts are devoid of anything to read.

Oats

Some defensive posting. seems to say a lot without saying a lot.

Trfel

Super logic. I'm not sure I follow his argument, but at least he has an argument.

batsnacks

Basically just tunnelled on oats. Not sure I can lean either way with this.


OK something that caught my eye in the very first posts (p5). sicklucker sets his 'trap' and Breshke falls into it. Damdred and sicklucker set up some rapport. Then HTS questions Breshke's response. sicklucker jumps on it straight away to say how townie it is that HTS would defend him like this. He says 'A mafia would be unlikely to defend me.' At this point I see Damdred trying to pull info from sicklucker, kind of indirectly trying to defend him.

So, I don't think that HTS is mafia. But if sicklucker is, then I wouldn't be surprised if Damdred was his partner. To me, it looks like they are trying to align, without directly giving each other a town read.



I said breske was null wtf? How am I a donkey town or mafia if after all of that I didnt get anything out of breske and said so(I got alot out of other people... like ALOT)


Your post I quoted suggests otherwise. If you have some more reads, then update me.
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 26 2014 00:38 GMT
#339
On November 26 2014 09:33 sicklucker wrote:
If your so sure of mine and dandreds interactions how did you miss the posts where he asked me If I thik breske is scum and I said no? Because I have yet to call breske scum the worst I called him was "weird"


Not sure what this means? If you changed your mind on breske then what would that have to do with Damdred?
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 26 2014 00:38 GMT
#340
On November 26 2014 09:36 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 09:26 meatpudding wrote:
On November 26 2014 09:22 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 26 2014 09:18 meatpudding wrote:
Ok, here's where I stand right now. If you're name's not on the list then consider it a null read for the time being.

Marry
Breshke
Bang
HTS
Trfel
Kill
Damdred
sicklucker


I am not familiar with this terminology. I assume you mean kill is like a lynch/scum vote. but what is "marry" and "bang"?

Also taking note of your inquiry, on kush, he did not strike me one way or another going through the thread, but let me filter and pull together his posts for a better read.


[B]Marry is towniest of town. Bang, I would consider you town for now, but it just might not last. Kill is scum.[B/]


Can you not use nivknames so I know who your talking about plz?


HTS = HalfTheSky
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 26 2014 00:54 GMT
#345
On November 26 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote:
##vote meatpudding

Coincidental maybe that you suddenly come in with a buttload of reads after I ask where you went and disappeared to, but that screams lurking to me. You've talked lynching policies a lot and got in early game on the sl, breske business defending breske's vote as not indicative of an alignment...and came out in favor of a no-lynch. Those by themselves aren't that significant. I don't see much value added the first day though.

And the timing today...that's what really has me suspicious. Got a good reason for that?


Not sure if you're saying I'm in favour of no-lynch? I haven't mentioned that, and I haven't voted yet either. As for the time, it's morning here. On that topic end of day is at 8am for me.
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 26 2014 09:01 GMT
#416
On November 26 2014 10:14 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 10:07 sicklucker wrote:
On November 26 2014 10:03 rsoultin wrote:
On November 26 2014 09:54 meatpudding wrote:
On November 26 2014 09:48 rsoultin wrote:
##vote meatpudding

Coincidental maybe that you suddenly come in with a buttload of reads after I ask where you went and disappeared to, but that screams lurking to me. You've talked lynching policies a lot and got in early game on the sl, breske business defending breske's vote as not indicative of an alignment...and came out in favor of a no-lynch. Those by themselves aren't that significant. I don't see much value added the first day though.

And the timing today...that's what really has me suspicious. Got a good reason for that?


Not sure if you're saying I'm in favour of no-lynch? I haven't mentioned that, and I haven't voted yet either. As for the time, it's morning here. On that topic end of day is at 8am for me.


Reread your posts and it was SLs comment on trying to lead town you were agreeing with, not the no-lynch suggestion. My bad.

I'll accept the alibi for now. Still find the timing coincidental, but you were active at about this time yesterday, too.

##unvote


Im pretty sure meat made a small 1 liner post you missed and he was already around. Also I do buy his Australian excuse


No offense, dude, but you're wrong. Check the filter. Over 24 hours passed between when he asked HTS for a read on kush yesterday and his Marry/Bang/Kill list today, which was posted about a half hour after I asked where he'd gotten off to. The coincidence of the timing is legit.


Nope. He's right. My posts were about 1/2 an hour apart. I was just chiming in while I caught up on the thread.
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 26 2014 09:13 GMT
#417
On November 26 2014 10:30 Trfel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 26 2014 10:24 batsnacks wrote:
On November 26 2014 10:21 Trfel wrote:
On November 26 2014 09:57 batsnacks wrote:
Trfel point me toward what you think oats has gained and utilized from his nitpicking. All I see is people calling him out for it and people complaining about it.


On November 26 2014 02:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
So I'm not a scum read rsoultin?
Interesting. Why aren't you putting in effort to find scum since you have no scum reads? I don't see an inquisitive mindset from you.


This seems to be the best he's gotten. My point still stands, to me you are looking very much like scum. Trying to turn people's attentions towards Oatsmaster doesn't change that.


I'm CLEARLY not trying to turn attention. Exactly the opposite. I have been trying to get people to pay attention to you and your case.

I think oats is scum and I'm trying to explain it to you.

You are voting me because I, allegedly, don't have scum reads.

Simply having one scum read, which I feel started as a reaction for being voted for, doesn't feel like enough to me. Still though, I'll take a closer look later tonight.

To everyone else (except Half the Sky, thanks for sharing your thoughts, I'll take a look at Damdred later tonight), I'd really like some feedback. If my case is really stupid, let me know. If it's full of holes, show them to me. Otherwise, vote for batsnacks.


I'm not convinced. If you were to sum up your case it seems you're saying that he was highly analytical in other games, but mostly posting without content in this game. So that might be a clue and it's a good observation. At the moment it puts him about equal with kush, slam, LS, rasputin who have not put in very much. (I know I have a one page filter too..).
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 26 2014 09:35 GMT
#418
On November 26 2014 12:48 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
My mistake. It was page 10 when you first called HTS town but a couple posts later put him up as your scumread. SL wrant from null to scum as well. Though reading through bats filter I can see that of everyone he's made and effort to not post reads or reasoning for votes so for today my vote stand on him
## vote bats


This looks like you're just sheeping Trfel. At least he went to some effort to explain his reasoning. It's not like I think you're totally wrong but on the other hand he's not the only one who hasn't made reads.
Be excellent to each other.
meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
November 26 2014 10:44 GMT
#420
On November 26 2014 19:01 Breshke wrote:
Hey meat pudding so i saw your stuff on the damdred/SL interaction but i see it differently from you. I think if damdred is mafia he doesnt single out SL in his initial post (not that he was talking about alignments but he still specifically mentions SL)

Show nested quote +
On November 25 2014 07:46 Damdred wrote:
The tryhards are out in their full glory besides SL.

Ignore me today while I find scum going to wreck them


And then i don't think he goes on to question his scum partner so meticulously. This is just a gut feeling though like i don't think in this setup scum comes out and interacts that much with their partner when bussing is definitely an option for them. Although you can go down an entire meta hole of thats exactly why he would do it.

Anyway are these two still your scum reads? What do you think of batsnacks and oatsmaster?


Yeah that would make sense except SL was definitely drawing attention to himself at the time. So besides that, I would still have my suspicion on sicklucker, because he was super quick to give out town reads at that time, but since then hasn't given much of a read on anyone. He wasn't too fond of my initial case, but I didn't see him elaborate on the holes he says he found. I was really liking Damdred at first, I though his activity was bringing good results. I only had second thoughts when I went back to read it a second time. It just looked to me that when SL gave his first townread on HTS, that he was setting up for a read on Damdred to make them both confirmed town. Since I mentioned it they seem to have a point of disagreeing, but I could just be paranoid. I would not be opposed to lynching either one.

I need to read the part of the thread where bats and oats came in. It really confused my first time. I've said that I'm not sure about the case on bats, but I wouldn't say either are town atm.

I'm going to do some diving now. I don't think anyone else is around and I need to vote tonight because I won't be able to catch up before the hammer.

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November 26 2014 11:28 GMT
#422
On November 26 2014 20:19 Breshke wrote:
Yeah man deadlines are rough for us. I will probably be around if you find anything you want to talk about.

I think you are being paranoid about damdred but it could be a world just not one i think we should consider today.

What do you think of bats taking his vote off of Oats to vote dicksmash?


Not bad actually, I can't see any real reason not to vote for dicksmash.
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November 26 2014 12:33 GMT
#427
On November 26 2014 20:46 Breshke wrote:
I disagree

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On November 26 2014 11:07 batsnacks wrote:
Oats seriously it shouldn't be hard for you to convince me you're town in this game. Give a good read on someone else it will go a long way.

You're halfway there already, I agree with your meatpudding read.


This feels like he knows Oats alignment and is trying to get him on his side. If not what then convinced him that oats was town that would make him then change his vote to someone he had an early town read on and hasn't done much in the mean time

Yes the fact that dicksmash ahsn't done much in the mean time is bad and that he won't be around until later is also bad but I don't think bats has actually tried to figure out Oats at all and am not sure what he is trying to accomplish with his vote on dicksmash since he hasn't said anything at all about think he is scum.

But is voting someone you dont have a reason not to vote for a good play. How many other people fit into that category for you at this time?


It's not the best play, but it's day 1 and information is so limited... definitely no one is confirmed and I only have like two town lean. It's like the battle between the spammers and the lurkers right now. I think bats is pressure voting, I'm not convinced how serious he is with any of his reads.

Bats could be scum, but why on earth would he choose oats to pocket? oats has been on his case the entire time.

Do you think there is a chance that they are a scum team?

Oats is looking almost like a town lean to me. In every post he is pressing for logic and reason. The big problem I have with him is that he has tunneled on batsnacks so hard. Also the fact that both of them said my post was funny, but none decided to push me on it or even vote for pressure. So that's a bit odd. Especially considering the random voting of bats. And yeah while it seems bats hasn't done that much, it looks like he's trolling. It doesn't come off as townie but I'm still not feeling scum here. Anyway I'm not trying to defend bats at all so whatever.

I'm not as confident on Trfel as I was before. I feel like what you said about bats could be applied here. He did some good research, but he's pretty much just sheeping oats, no? I fell like he's trying to make a case that feels more solid than it is.

The next most scummy thing I've seen so far is slam coming into the thread, random voting and then disappearing. Since he was being ignored he hasn't had to post anything since.

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November 26 2014 12:34 GMT
#428
Dicksmash, what do you think of Trfel and Alakaslam?
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November 26 2014 13:23 GMT
#433
I'm going with my guts and voting sicklucker.

He conveys a lot of confidence in his reads, but I don't see any reasoning behind them. I'm not really sure where he stands on breshke.
On November 26 2014 08:53 sicklucker wrote:
Bet my left nut on towns - hts, trfel
leaning towns - dicksmash, Ls, slam?

Longshot crack pot day 1 mafia team call out for fun - rsoultin, Damdred, breske

I think we got 2 mafia in the more experienced players, im liking alot of the new guys

On November 25 2014 09:59 sicklucker wrote:
Ive given my breske read as well. I pretty much just said its weird but hes null . If I wanted to push him id push him. Hes one of the few players I know so I want him to stick around soI can read him more.


This read on Damdred is super mysterious and odd. I think he's trying to make it look like he's contributing more than he is.
On November 26 2014 09:10 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred I think what ive seen is scum. I found it super weird how he never asked breske one question but he asked me 15 of the same question. I dont want to push him yet because I think I can soulread him as I have in a current game I cant talk about.

Bresk individuality I dont have much but he hasint been around. I just put him in that longshot scum team from their really weird day 1 interactions together.


This is a good start but where is the follow up? If he was town I think it would be important to push on this statement.
On November 26 2014 09:34 sicklucker wrote:
I already found holes in meats story I dont like him at all.


He seems to be handing out reads at random. Trying to justify everything by saying 'I have a good reason but I just can't tell you.' I feel like his game plan is to not get lynched rather than figure out the game.

##Vote sicklucker
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November 27 2014 00:17 GMT
#638
Damn. He didn't even try to defend himself.
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November 27 2014 03:30 GMT
#688
On November 27 2014 12:24 rsoultin wrote:
-_- SL, I see why people keep thinking you're scum. You are not at all careful about what you're saying, what you're reading, what verb tenses you're using. If you're town, dude, learn to take the time to think before you post and actually reread it to make sure it's saying what you meant to say. Or you're going to misdirect people into thinking you're mafia simply because you're acting like a self-contradicting looney toon.


I'm actually starting to think that SL's erratic behaviour means he could be town. I think if he were scum he would be a little more careful with his accusations.
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November 27 2014 03:51 GMT
#710
bats what do you think of kush right now? I haven't really agreed with his reads yet or seen anything from him to put him in my town pile. But you seemed to switch to a town read on him fairly easily. How do you feel after the flip?
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November 27 2014 04:01 GMT
#718
On November 27 2014 12:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
man fuck this game, there are like 6 scummy dudes.
Damdred
Bats
Meatpudding
Lightningstrike
rsoultin
slam


Why do you think rsoultin is scummy?
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November 27 2014 23:03 GMT
#871
Hey guys, I'm in the middle of this http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-11-28/brisbane-storms-68000-residents-still-without-power/5924112. I don't have power at home but hopefully can catch up a little bit.
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November 29 2014 01:00 GMT
#1083
Hi guys.

Sorry I couldn't post. I went to school after the storm hit but they closed the labs for repair. I can't post form my phone

Anyway caught up now. I wanted to post my thoughts at the end of night, but it's pretty much moot now.

Also, I wanted to push on slam, but because of the replacement I would change my read from scum to null.
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November 29 2014 01:03 GMT
#1084
So, my top scum read right now is kush.

I'm on the fence about both Bats and Damdred. On bats, I haven't really been reading him as scummy for most of the game. So far, each case I have seen is not convincing enough for me. His posts are either null or town leaning for the most part. In fact, I would have put bats as a town lean which is the most likely scenario, except for something which make me consider a world where he is scum. His outright agreement with kush being the main thing. I haven't been convinced and I don't buy that bats would read kush town after such a brief amount of posting. So, because I feel that it's about 60-40 that he is town, I am calling it a fence read.

On Damdred, I was leaning scum D1, but after that I have no strong feelings one way or the other. It's pretty obvious that he's not scum team with sicklucker as I first thought. And I doubt that he is scum team with bats. It could be the case, but I think a better guess is kush/bats or kush/damdred. Damdred's posts come off to me as distractions to town. He is acting very defensive about everything. He is asking questions often, but I don't see how they shape his reads. I feel like he is pushing on everyone who makes any kind of statement against him, but is just trying to corner them or wear them down in a 'do you really think that' kind of way. So, I don't really agree with his reads at all and I feel like he should have come a lot further than he has, considering his post count. I don't get his defence of bats, though I am inclined to believe that bats could be town maybe damd is trying to pocket.

On kush, I have seen him as the most scummy player so far.

He lurked D1 and basically didn't post anything except to directly answer questions. I think this is not even a null read, this is scummy, there is very little put forward to help town.

What bothers me more about this is that even though he has not done anything to earn a town read, I feel like he has been given a free pass to the game. So I'm not sure what to make of this. Would his scum partner have the balls to say that kush is def town? I think that is a pretty bold move but it's wifom to think about.

His D2 reads have been no better, and basically random. Breske? (lol) HtS? I don't feel that either. Is he just trying to see what sticks and jump on a wagon without making a case? Meanwhile he I feel like he is being covered for by a partner. Either that or town is being really dopey.

LS i am null leaning scum. I think he pretty much takes slam's place on the list. Something about his posts has kind of bothered me, like he's lurking but not pushing. What makes me suspicious enough to call scum is that kush never mentions him nor interacts with him at all. He gives a D1 scum read with no backup and then just drops on it. Hm.

My town reads from least to most are oats, HtS, rasputin, sicklucker and breshke. The last three especially are pretty legit.
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November 29 2014 01:57 GMT
#1087
On November 29 2014 10:35 rsoultin wrote:
First off lol >< I do have to apologize to you meat. I was wrong. I must have looked at your filter five times and still screwed up the timestamp on your posts. You did post the question about a read on HTS a half hour before your Marry/Bang/Kill post, so that's my bad.

November 25 2014 17:58
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On November 26 2014 08:58 rsoultin wrote:
Gonna help you out here, SL. rsoultin. Spell the name right, bro.

Now I know you want to push Breske for pushing you in the beginning, and I didn't jump on that bandwagon. But I'll concede that you may be town and just bad at this whole let's set a trap thing. (I mean, really, what were you expecting out of that?) It doesn't seem like a mafia move just cause it's too stupid. So I won't push you, bro.

On a sidenote, where is the meatpudding? He was all gungho yesterday, talking about all his spare time...


November 25, 2014 18:18
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On November 26 2014 09:18 meatpudding wrote:
Ok, here's where I stand right now. If you're name's not on the list then consider it a null read for the time being.

Marry
Breshke
Bang
HTS
Trfel
Kill
Damdred
sicklucker


Before that you had made your short post.
November 25, 2014 17:37
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On November 26 2014 08:37 meatpudding wrote:
HTS, do you have any read on kush?


For some reason I confused the timestamp with the one on this post:
November 24, 2014 18:11
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On November 25 2014 09:11 meatpudding wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:48 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:41 meatpudding wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:36 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:27 meatpudding wrote:
Student mafia, eh.... Did you know? Sperm whales have the largest brain of any animal.


Cool stuff what do you think of the couple things that have been posted so far


I have my eye on sicklucker. Not really sure what he's up to but I expect he's fishing for reads. I would like to see what he comes up with by end of day. Otherwise I'm marking it as suspicious.


I know its not much posted so far but is there anyone else you are looking at or hinking about?

Not really. Breshke and HtS look like they're trying to reason their way through the game. You're asking lots of questions which is good. Not enough info for me to put you on by bang list.

On November 25 2014 08:39 meatpudding wrote:
On November 25 2014 08:20 sicklucker wrote:
imo day ones are stupid. I never take too much info out of day one but I do try to get some and start the game rolling I try to take charge as town. Im certainly not going to vote breske because of it , this is the kind of thing you look back at when you have more information.


Kind of agree with your day one idea. Not to say that it's stupid, but it takes some time to make a decent read.

On November 25 2014 08:21 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:26 Half the Sky wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:23 Breshke wrote:
On November 25 2014 07:14 sicklucker wrote:
boring im town again afk


Looks like we found our d1 lynch already

##Vote: Sicklucker


Are you voting him down because he's serious and just trolling or because you're a baddie trying to lynch a good guy?

Granted this is my first ever TLM game so you probably know this lad more than I do...just saying. I can read that either way.


This is pretty townie. This got me at least one slight town read


Anyone could have said this. It's not uncommon to have a policy lynch on lurkers. I don't know why you would come out and say that it looks town. Unless you're going to say that it's a meta-play and you're trying to judge Breshke on his reaction to you saying he's town, but then you could say that everything is a play and you wouldn't have to be held to anything you said.

Anyway on the topic of policy, I wouldn't necessarily lynch all lurkers on day 1. Only if there was no reasonable candidate scum lynch.


Could you alk more about the bolded and where lurker lynch/policy lynch came from.


Maybe I could explain the bolded part a bit better. sicklucker opens by saying he's going to afk. I guess he was fishing for a reaction from someone and Breshke jumps in and votes, because an afk town is essentially useless. (Though I would usually let the modkill go through).

Now sicklucker isn't playing afk at all, he seems to be poking and fishing around for responses. Could be ok, or could be suspicious.

I think it was way too early to give a town read for that just based on Breshke's response. Really easy for anyone to make that call. Now, since sicklucker backflipped on the afk deal, maybe he is just saying Breshke is town, and fishing for more info, or maybe he really is posting that as a read.

If it's a genuine read, I don't really think it's justified based on that small interaction. If it's fishing, then I can't really trust any of his reads because he can use that excuse to drop false information.

Actually on first read I thought he was saying that Breshke's vote was townie, but now it looks like he was saying HtS's defense was townie. Hm, maybe it's not so bad. Would like to hear whar sicklucker is really thinking now.

Often in other games players have put forward a Lynch all Lurkers and Lynch all Liars policy. I don't really agree with these but I was wondering if anyone else follows policy votes. Also in other games we have posted our reads in Marry/Bang/Kill format. I'll be doing that once some more people have posted.




So no, you did not suddenly start posting when I asked where you were. That is my bad. And you were right about posting 30 minutes before. All that leaves in terms of why I was questioning you was the unexplained time gap of almost 24 hrs between the last post linked above and the request for a read on HTS. I thought you were avoiding the question, but I was asking it wrong because I'm a dolt. Could you explain that gap please?

If you can, I no longer have any issues with you, especially if you remain active now. Meh I need to learn to timestamp better.


Oops I think that was when I was working on the map analyser. If you're into starcraft you should check it out in the custom maps forum. Oh I probably should have posted that evening though.

If I remember correctly that was when bats/oats showed up. It was a bit of a shitstorm I didn't really have much to contribute but tried to follow it as well. I noticed that's when Kush showed up as well, but only posted a few times.
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November 29 2014 01:58 GMT
#1088
On November 29 2014 10:42 kushm4sta wrote:
scum might just get lucky enough that im too busy to do anything today


Without any defense I have no reason not to ##Vote kushm4sta
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November 29 2014 02:13 GMT
#1090
On November 29 2014 11:05 rsoultin wrote:
Got a link? I'm not but I'd still like to see your map, lol. Some friends are.

And yeah the shitstorm had me very grumpy. That and probably jet lag, but I'm going to pretend it was all them yup. Bats switched his vote to Oats right before kush came in. Inclined to follow suit on that vote with you, meatpudding. Yet another non-post by Kush.

Most I've seen from him was his helping to push Dicks with Damdred.


Check my sig, it's not really on topic for this thread.

So far I haven't really bought into the case on bats, as I said above. But he's one of the people who gave kush town cred, when I clearly feel he doesn't deserve it at all. This could be a meta read by bats, and I don't like it. I'm still a newb player but I;ve never seen so much meta than in this thread. It's pretty easy to game the meta, so I don't read too much into those arguments.

Another scenario is that kush, bats are the same alignment. It would be an extremely forward move to town read your buddy just like that. But maybe he would try it because we would never expect it. Wifom, etc....
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November 29 2014 02:23 GMT
#1095
On November 29 2014 11:20 sicklucker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 29 2014 10:00 meatpudding wrote:
Hi guys.

Sorry I couldn't post. I went to school after the storm hit but they closed the labs for repair. I can't post form my phone

Anyway caught up now. I wanted to post my thoughts at the end of night, but it's pretty much moot now.

[B]Also, I wanted to push on slam, but because of the replacement I would change my read from scum to null.[B/]


How does this matter at all?


My main reason for reading scum on slam was that he was lurking, so I don't have a case now.
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November 29 2014 02:24 GMT
#1096
On November 29 2014 11:21 sicklucker wrote:
Meat scum reads me and votes me. Now he doesint even mention me in his reads???????


I'm not reading you as scum anymore SL. I put you in my reads as nearly top town. I don't see you as pushing the scum agenda at all.
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November 29 2014 06:46 GMT
#1108
On November 29 2014 13:53 LightningStrike wrote:
Before I go to bed I got question rsoultin,Breshke, and meatpudding
What is your case on kushm4sta because I willing to change my vote if you guys give me a better case than the case on meatpudding as I got both them as my top scum.


If it;s kushm4sta and meatpudding that are your top scum you should definitely vote kushm4sta.

Outlined the gist of it in my first post. The silence factor is a big deal. By being read town, he had very little motivation to say anything.

The fact that he was being read town after doing next to nothing was my second concern. I'm not sure that I want to commit to saying that he's working with a partner, but I am suspicious.

His D1 read like scum to me. Same with D2.

So before he started voting on D1 there was this kind of interaction.

On November 25 2014 18:50 Breshke wrote:
Got any reads you want to share kush?

I don't really like sicklucker at the moment but i can't really express why. I don't get why people make these "traps" and then he has come to almost 0 conclusions from it. Like the trap in itself is not alignment indicative because he set it up before he knew his role but he seemingly got nothing from it and it was just an excuse because of his bad initial post.

On November 25 2014 18:58 kushm4sta wrote:
breshke, what was scummy about sicklucker I think moreso than that he set a trap, was that he used it as an excuse to omgus you.

On November 25 2014 21:17 Breshke wrote:
yeah i think what i was trying to say is the same as you kush. What did he egt from that trap/ What was he hoping to get from it?

Kush what's your read on Oats if you have any at this time

On November 25 2014 21:43 kushm4sta wrote:
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On November 25 2014 21:17 Breshke wrote:
yeah i think what i was trying to say is the same as you kush. What did he egt from that trap/ What was he hoping to get from it?

Kush what's your read on Oats if you have any at this time

Probably town because he's acting pro town but that's a weak read. Granted I haven't read the whole game yet.


Basically Kush is posting without giving too much away. I think if he didn't have any reads then he could have just said that? Like he is feigning interest in the game maybe. His posts are half jokes and banter, where the actual content of his reads are just flat lists with no justification.

Then out of nowhere
On November 26 2014 01:39 kushm4sta wrote:
##unvote
##vote damdred

with the corresponding explanation
On November 26 2014 01:55 kushm4sta wrote:
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On November 26 2014 01:42 batsnacks wrote:
Penny for your thoughts kush


I'm caught up. On my phone.

Scum pile
Rasputin
very little content. I remember what's there being scummy.
ls
similar to above in that i don't remember precisely why he's scummy.
Damdred-stronger read
His tone reads like a know it all. His arguments defending his shit pushes make no sense.
Oats
I changed my mind on this one having read everything. His tunnel on bat is so superficial yet he's not letting it go.

So he voted because "he's scummy but I don't know why" and then after this is going onto dicksmash.

Then he rolls over, says he's too busy with half a day left to go, but he's obviously still in the thread. This alone isn't such a scum tell. But if he is scum, as I suspect, then there's no way he gets a free pass by continuing to be afk.

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November 29 2014 09:59 GMT
#1110
On November 29 2014 18:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kush isn't scum.

Can you give an idea of why you think that?
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November 29 2014 10:19 GMT
#1113
On November 29 2014 19:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
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On November 29 2014 18:59 meatpudding wrote:
On November 29 2014 18:47 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kush isn't scum.

Can you give an idea of why you think that?

It's so bad for scum kush to react like this to pressure.
Because shit like what you guys are doing happens.

Well yeah... but are you really saying that going afk under pressure confirms town?
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November 30 2014 00:36 GMT
#1329
One positive thing to take from this is that he didn't vote so would have been modkilled anyway. It was essentially a no-lynch.
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December 01 2014 00:54 GMT
#1443
Oh shi- good morning nice to see some early vote activity
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December 01 2014 00:56 GMT
#1444
here's some vote analysis that i wrote during the night. I'm going to have to rearead and revise my reads obviously.

HtS
Votes kush obviously to keep himself alive when he was the other wagon. Can't read into the alignment here.

meat
You can see my reasoning for suspecting kush in my other posts.

Breshke
Idk why breshke chose to vote kush, maybe because he was lurking.

rsoultin
Not sure actually why he votes kush when he said Damdred was his scum read.

D1 final count

batsnacks (2): Oatsmaster, Trfel, Breshke
Dicksmash Mcironcock (6): kushm4sta, Damdred, Half the Sky, LightningStrike, SickLucker, rsoultin, Alakaslam
sicklucker (1): meatpudding
Trfel (1): batsnacks


D2 final count

Kushm4sta (4): Breshke, meatpudding, Half the Sky, rsoultin
Half the Sky (3): Oatsmaster, Batsnacks, LightningStrike
rsoultin (2): Hopeless1der,Damdred
batsnacks (1): sicklucker

conclusion
excluding sl and breshke for the time being
pretty unlikely that hopeless and damdred are both scums, but likely that one of them are.
one of oats, bats, LS likely to me mafia
one of hts, rasputin.

I'm kind of leaning town on both hts and rasputin. I would consider taking another look at brashke. Kush's suggestion on the roleblock scenario seems too far-fetched. MAYBE the roleblocker was afk and breshke claimed, I doubt it so much.
My best guess based on the votes is HtS, LS, Damdred
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December 01 2014 00:57 GMT
#1445
But as of now my top three would be HtS, LS, hopless1der
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December 01 2014 01:37 GMT
#1448
Yeah I know Damdred flipped. I had to chenge it after I saw that.
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December 01 2014 13:23 GMT
#1541
I'm still here. If things keep going the way they are I'm going to have to vote to keep myself alive. I'm not opposed to a vote on LS anyway. Best shot imo.
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December 01 2014 13:25 GMT
#1543
On December 01 2014 22:22 rsoultin wrote:
Okay, so now it's time to be newb and need help.

"hammer" - does that mean vote? cause "hammer" sounds negative lol

And I am reading the damn timestamp right this time, right? We've got more than 24 hours left?


Hammer is the vote that sets it to lynch. And yeah over 24h (48 h days)
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December 01 2014 13:40 GMT
#1549
On December 01 2014 22:36 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 01 2014 22:30 sicklucker wrote:
Ya another odd spot where you and bats dont mention each other. Who did you vote d1 again?


Lol, SL...circular reasoning dude. I didn't like that in Damdred (HTS is bad cause SL is bad cause HTS is bad), and I don't like it here. Sides, he left me off too. I seem to recall being left off several lists early game.

Felt unloved ;o; Though I was being a bit of a sarcastic ass too so that's okay lol. No one has to love me.


I'm sure oats loves you. Oats loves everyone.
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December 02 2014 01:10 GMT
#1585
Why are you so sure about HTS breshke?

I was going to say lynch LS then HTS but I don't have a good enough case on either right now.
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December 02 2014 01:37 GMT
#1590
On December 02 2014 10:26 rsoultin wrote:
Edit: @ meat

Would really just like to hear what you have. It's okay if it's not super solid or something. I think we're all uncertain right now, which is why everyone is so worried about who to lynch and lynching the wrong person, lol.

In a way, I assumed he was N2 after for voting kush. Mainly because LS was already scum read to me and I assumed that neither bats or oats would be. So leaving off rasputin, breshke and sl that left me with hts and hopeless 1der.
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December 02 2014 01:46 GMT
#1593
On December 02 2014 10:44 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 02 2014 10:37 meatpudding wrote:
On December 02 2014 10:26 rsoultin wrote:
Edit: @ meat

Would really just like to hear what you have. It's okay if it's not super solid or something. I think we're all uncertain right now, which is why everyone is so worried about who to lynch and lynching the wrong person, lol.

In a way, I assumed he was N2 after for voting kush. Mainly because LS was already scum read to me and I assumed that neither bats or oats would be. So leaving off rasputin, breshke and sl that left me with hts and hopeless 1der.


Honestly, meat, by that logic you should be voting for me lol. Which I wouldn't blame people for doing. I'm the one who voted for kush last and refused to change my vote to HTS.

It might help if you read EoD Day 2 and Night 2...your last few posts lead me to believe you haven't been paying attention to those.

I have read it, is there anything you want to draw my attention to? Maybe I missed something... Also I am more confident that you are town over HtS, so far I haven't been convinced on bats either.
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December 02 2014 02:04 GMT
#1598
On December 02 2014 10:58 rsoultin wrote:
HTS didn't switch his vote to me when he could have to prevent his being lynched. He also said something when he thought he'd been lynched, but a couple of the votes weren't counted. Those two reasons are my reasons. He was pretty null to me before EoD Day 2 as well.

Since you read that, I assume there's a reason you're still suspicious of him?


Wait, he didn't prevent himself being lynched so that makes him town? That's weird of him either way. I'm going to check it again, I had thought that the last votes were counted.
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December 02 2014 12:48 GMT
#1616
Ok I don't have much to post and since I'm going to die anyway, I should at least vote against myself. So, I don't know if you are voting me because I started voting kush or not, but otherwise it would have been hts lynched yeaterday. If I had been on I would have switched probably anyway. I haven't had a proper dive since then but if i should be convinced on hts, if i survive another day then assuming ls flips then that would be a place to consider him from.

Ls is in this game to ask dead end questions and be all around pilly wally. What has he done besides cover his tracks and post little during the times when he was able to coast, mainly because bats and oats and mainly the rest of town has been fighting over one another.

So my previous vote analysis notwithstanding, it's almost clear that scum has had almost no play in the push of town against town, and this explains the passive play by ls. He could vote for A or B or whatever and it doesn't really matter because either way one step closer to lylo. I would be happy to vote on ls even if I had another viable choice here. In fact I would have thought about it yesterday, but kush being afk made me assume that he was lacking in defense.

Oh oats I guess I owe you an apology. You were right about kush all along. But the problem is that you did a crappy job of convincing me or anyone else. I dind't have any reason to believe you especially when the way I was reading him was different to yours. I guess you have played together before still it's pretty easy to change your play especially when you're not posting much, right?
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December 02 2014 12:48 GMT
#1617
##Vote LightningStrike
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December 02 2014 13:17 GMT
#1619
On December 02 2014 22:08 Breshke wrote:
Meatpudding what i don't get it you read kush as scummy for not posting much of a defense or whatever, and i agreed with you on that so im not blaming you for starting that wagon but you have been under the spotlight most of today and at least in my eyes have failed to defend yourself until now. Why were you happy to do something that made you read kush as scummy?

I had to read that a couple times before it made sense but you're asking why I haven't been defending myself? I guess I suck at defense. I was hoping to put together a good case but I didn't get the diving done that I wanted to, especially the more recent posts by hts and oats. So I also haven't really updated my reads at all. But about kush I was first reading him as scummy for making very off topic and limited content posts. When he went massively afk that was just a bonus reason.
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December 02 2014 13:32 GMT
#1621
On December 02 2014 22:17 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay I will explain my sheeping since I woke up. I did sheep in my last game too till I got lynched and when I was in the OBS qt for that game after death I swore after one player that died who called sicklucker town sicklucker was scum because afterwards his posting seemed to be scum like at the time. I was shocked to learn he really was town and so I don't really trust my own judgement still after that game so I was going with the Veterans of TL mafia for voting unless I get a power role that can detect alignments aka Cop/Detective or Tracker/Watcher. That's all I can say about my sheeping. Read my filter from the Campus Mafia for proof of my sheeping in that game.

Vt has the power to vote. Not using your votes to hunt for scum in anti town hence leaning heavily on scum for your alignment.
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December 02 2014 13:54 GMT
#1624
Hopeless is looking viable but I still think ls is ok.
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December 03 2014 10:46 GMT
#1728
Oh that was close!
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December 03 2014 10:50 GMT
#1729
On December 03 2014 08:50 Half the Sky wrote:
Breshke, it's almost midnight here, I can crank a few more things for the next half hour, anything in particular you want me to check? Almost through with LS. Here's another post we can examine...

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On November 28 2014 12:56 LightningStrike wrote:
Okay since now that my cousin and his wife and son have left I can finally give you guys my current reads for the time being.
Breshke: Town since he displaying the same kind of approach for today as he did in my last game when he was town.

Batsnacks: Null leaning town since he is acting close to the same way he did last game with me when he was a doctor but he been dodging questions from Oatsmaster and Half the Sky.

Damndred: Null leaning town since he was one of the major pushers for the lynching of DSIM without much of a good reason and been defending Batsnacks actions but at the same time he been giving losts of questions although DSIM didn't respond well to the questions.

Half the Sky: Town since he been giving good reasonings for his reads throughout the game although I don't like his case for Batsnacks being scum based on my own experience playing with Batsnacks in my last game.

sicklucker: Town because his posting style had pretty much stayed the same from the last game I played with him although he did looked very scummy in that game but he was just a Vanilla town and since our power roles had been lynched/killed I having a safe bet that sicklucker is town.

meatpudding: Null leaning town he had some decent questions after being gone for a while and now he claiming to have no power at his house it could be a scum move because one of the scums in my last game tried to pull that move but failed so perhaps meatpudding could scum.

alakaslam: null leaning scum since he not posted much of his reads but he also admitted to notread much of the thread during the time of us lynching DSIM but I need to see more posts of his though since he said he had to go earlier in the thread to confirm my suspicions.

Oatsmasters: Town since he been asking lots of questions to everyone and been trying to lead the discussion when he can which isn't a trait a scum member would do.

kushm4sta: Null leaning scum since he not been contributing a lot like his last scum game which was my last although he did give a couple questions to people he also didn't post much so I need to wait for him to post more so I can get a better read on him

rsoultin: Null leaning town since he trying to ask some questions and responding to questions he been asked by others although he did convence me to lynch DSIM that is haunting me because of my last game experience :|


The above was D2.


What is the point of this? Half his reads are null anyway. Is there anything you can tell from here or any reason to repost it now?
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December 03 2014 10:52 GMT
#1730
On December 03 2014 13:00 sicklucker wrote:
Heres the only situation you should vote breske out. If theirs one mafia left and its the roleblocker. Even then im not saying you should do it but thats the only situation where it makes sense.


That makes absolutely no sense. Any scum could have claimed not just the rb.
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December 03 2014 10:58 GMT
#1731
On December 03 2014 14:04 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 03 2014 12:08 sicklucker wrote:
Could oats and bats be scum together? I think theirs a chance and it could be the uneasy feeling were getting breske. I have no idea why Ive been the one pushing bats over his since d1. His defense was terrible. Unlikely Tho

at eod2 did ls move the votes off of ryoulin?


Bats did. Though looking back through, it was Hope who started the lynch push on me, after bats posted that list and Damdred said I was acting scummy with the hammer vote and that he wished more were around so they could lynch me lol.

Hrum. Whatcha think? LS following bats (who he had a scum read on) around like a duckling a clever move designed to implicate bats if he ever flipped, or a new scum player transparently following bat's lead?


I don't think even a new player would be that transparent.
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December 03 2014 11:23 GMT
#1733
On December 03 2014 20:19 sicklucker wrote:
Meat who are the last two mafia

Probably not bats
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December 04 2014 01:13 GMT
#1874
On December 03 2014 21:57 Half the Sky wrote:
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On December 03 2014 19:50 meatpudding wrote:
What is the point of this? Half his reads are null anyway. Is there anything you can tell from here or any reason to repost it now?


Read this AND the last thing I posted on his record. Now that we know LS is scum, I'm re-reading everything he's done and put out there. His list of threes tells me he seemed like he wanted to take you out for awhile, which makes me reconsider you as scum, second page, since all the reads are together, he probably didn't want to indicate he was possibly aligned with anyone. It's always good to go back and re-examine someone when their role is revealed and that's so that we aren't missing anything. I am also posting such that if anyone else here had a different opinion on this, they can say something on it.

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On December 03 2014 19:52 meatpudding wrote:
On December 03 2014 13:00 sicklucker wrote:
Heres the only situation you should vote breske out. If theirs one mafia left and its the roleblocker. Even then im not saying you should do it but thats the only situation where it makes sense.


That makes absolutely no sense. Any scum could have claimed not just the rb.


Context. If there's one mafia left and it's the roleblocker...the key word here is AND. Even then I would take this a step further and say that if it's one scum left, we know it's RB, and the people left are what we think are the towncircle. Either way his situation he describes is that we know what specifics are being revealed as a scum goes.

You read the N3 post right? It revealed LS as a goon, so we have one goon and the RB left.


This still doesn't make sense. IF mafia didn't use the rb, then the rb could have asked someone else to claim.
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December 04 2014 01:15 GMT
#1875
On December 03 2014 23:32 batsnacks wrote:
Dudes just lynch hopeless tomorrow. You can always lynch me the next day I'm not going anywhere after how hard scum has been pushing my mislynch all game.


Why is it necessarily scum that has been pushing for your ml, do you think?
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December 04 2014 01:16 GMT
#1876
On December 03 2014 22:41 Half the Sky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 03 2014 13:02 rsoultin wrote:
Bats reads super scummy to me. Hope is a null. He did try to get me to play ball with him end of day 2, however, which is odd to me for scum.


Damn quote boxes.

I'll be completely honest, Rasputin, I might sound crazy here, but I just haven't been impressed with Meat's posting at all this game. Maybe it's inexperience, I think we're all learning. But even as a beginner myself I've had a difficult time following where he's trying to go with his posts half the time. Although now, I'm not as convinced he is scum after re-reading LS's posts.

There are eight alive right now. I'm good on you, Breshke, SL, Rasputin

We have Meat, Hopeless, Oats and Bats left.

Meat could be scum, but it's unlikely, though I will admit I'm not sold on an argument yet as to why he's not. He did say he's bad at his defense, EoD D3.

Hopeless is a complete tossup.

Bats is the clear scum for me. I think if we take him out, that will reveal all we need to know about Oats.

So in order: Bats, Hopeless and a tossup between Oats and Meat.


What would a bats flip tell you about oats? If bats flips, to me that would suggest that oats is a team, and that they were staging a bus. Can you confirm if this is what you are trying to say.
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December 04 2014 01:28 GMT
#1877
Sorry I didn't post reads during the night phase. I was pretty happy that at this point I wouldn't be shot. No problem with updating what I have.

Bats has been under close scrutiny since D1, started by oats and having varying degrees of success. Though he never acted like scum that had been caught. He's been reading slightly town to me, at least not scum at all. I'm bothered by his night posts and late day posts, they are null at best. I can say rasputin hts and the late sl throwing their opinions around but bats is just trying to counter without pushing too much. So with that I can see some reasoning behind the swing to him, I think a case could be made for bats today.

Knowing the alignment of ls is a big step up here. It's been repeated that ls was sheeping bats, and that would not have been a super bright move for a team. From that alone I would say the ls flip was in bats favour.

Maybe he isn't doing the most out of anybody but at least he has been doing something.

On November 28 2014 16:42 batsnacks wrote:
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On November 28 2014 16:38 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 28 2014 16:31 batsnacks wrote:
On November 28 2014 16:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 28 2014 16:20 batsnacks wrote:
On November 28 2014 16:13 Oatsmaster wrote:
On November 28 2014 15:51 batsnacks wrote:
Oats penny for your thoughts on slam/meat

i told you what I thought about slam earlier.

There was some shit day 1 that I didnt like about meat.
Damn i gotta look but i did mention something day 1.
And his absence kinda doesnt help.

You did say repeatedly day 1 that you didn't like meat. You said you didn't like the content of his list post and some other stuff I think. Your reads are consistent and reasonable for the most part I'm not looking for holes or anything. I just want to know what you think about lynching meat vs lynching slam.

way more for meat, his stuff has some thoughts meaning alignment indicative. None of slams stuff is alignment indicative.

What do you think about rsoultin? I have never once thought this game that he is interested in finding scum.

I like that rsoultin doesn't think I'm mafia but that's all really.

In retrospect he only started not thinking I'm mafia after I called him out on something, so he could just be taking the path of least resistance, which would be scummy.

can you be a bit more solid on your reads? All of your shit is like "eh maybe kinda looks like, maybe maybe maybe".


I'm having a hard time reading people in this game. I can't tell the difference between who's confused, misguided, mafia, or afk.


This actually sums up my thoughts as well. It kind of explains to me why bats has been going after everybody without going after anybody. It's more of a feeling that he is not scum rather than that he is town. (usually) He's been asking good questions but only making one-liner reads and not putting forward any convincing cases. I think he is just unsure of where to go. So now is the time to step it up. We're on a roll so prove to me that you are town and let's lynch scum before I decide to vote you myself.
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December 04 2014 01:30 GMT
#1879
So far I'm with voting hopeless. I can't remember what he said that I thought was scummy, I guess it was more about the way he said it. I'll take another look at yesterday because he hasn't posted much in the night. Even though slam only came on once or twice I still had a scum lean on him so I'll take a good look.
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December 04 2014 01:39 GMT
#1880
On December 01 2014 11:37 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On December 01 2014 11:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
You have 2 pages in like 3 days.
Thats afk/lurking.

Come on Hopeless, try harder pls.

But i dont wanna. meat is so clearly scum, cant i just coast another day?


This is a little bit of sarcasm, but isn't he just pushing the easy lynch instead of making a case? Was the same coasting tactic as ls used.
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December 04 2014 01:44 GMT
#1881
sl was for pushing hopeless today, he said it several times. Did he give any reason for it? Perhaps it was by the process of elimination by who he thought was town? If I remember correctly it was oats who suggested first to lynch hopeless.
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December 04 2014 01:49 GMT
#1882
On December 03 2014 23:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hopeless is massively scum.

You guys are giving him a free pass for lurking?
No town lurks this hard when they are almost gonna lose the game.

scum does though, because apparently nobody wants to lynch him for it.

I really cant believe that you guys dont think lurking is a legitimate scumtell. This late in the game, it is.

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On December 02 2014 11:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
meatpudding dies today. In the meantime I want someone (not sicklucker) to comment on the following:



Series of damdred related quotes from sicklucker:
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On November 26 2014 09:10 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred I think what ive seen is scum. I found it super weird how he never asked breske one question but he asked me 15 of the same question. I dont want to push him yet because I think I can soulread him as I have in a current game I cant talk about.

Bresk individuality I dont have much but he hasint been around. I just put him in that longshot scum team from their really weird day 1 interactions together.

On November 26 2014 10:13 sicklucker wrote:
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On November 19 2014 10:59 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
/in
I'm not really a newbie so put me down as either in just don't wanna force someone out of a spot they want/need.


Well Ill take my town read away I thought he was a new player but I did like him calling out damdred.

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On November 25 2014 09:28 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:26 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:22 Damdred wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:20 sicklucker wrote:
On November 25 2014 09:08 Damdred wrote:
SL tell me what you think of Half the Sky.

And since you are so good at reading breske give me a preliminary read (especially since you are fond of fast reads)


Like hes the only person in the game ive given a read on yet. Why do you keep asking


Because your read is half ass'd and at one point you say that he defends you when he never does and in almost his very next post he says "Oh nvm i'll vote him and keep my eye on him" basically.


Thats bullshit Everypost I made in this entire thread was about those two players. Its like your posting to make yourself look good while adding nothing.

i kinda agree with this.


On November 27 2014 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
Ya dont vote slam. Hes been pretty inactive in the other game too. Ill be able to read him well after mafia reading him so easy I think. same with damdred. They will also be great town assets if they are.

On November 27 2014 04:45 sicklucker wrote:
if we have a cop or tracker check damdred. Dont check me ill be oozing town soon.

On November 27 2014 05:40 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred I just think you played a very scared cautious mafia game before but that has yet to be confirmed. Once you come out with this im very happy to join in on your horse.

On November 27 2014 06:11 sicklucker wrote:
Kinda ya Im skeptical of damdred but his posts were enough for me to join in. rsoultin is not he joined after

On November 27 2014 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred im not even pushing you and your so defensive? what gives?


On November 28 2014 16:27 sicklucker wrote:
Damdreds been super defensive. I talked alot early about how im going to soul read him and hes put alot of effort into making me look bad. As it is now hes gotta die at some point things can change. I would rather solve the bats mystery first.

On November 30 2014 07:36 sicklucker wrote:
Ah shit I missed the vote im so bad. Catching up did we rly vote out one of my top towns


Once again, sicklucker was on Damdred's team in his previous game. He was not reading him, but he claims to have developed the innate ability to read damdred (and slam) since he just played with them together as scum. How does that claim not bother anyone? How does that even make sense? I do not like the way that his read on damdred develops. I do not like the way that he tries to take credit for damdred being nked. His story changes constantly and he is being townread for being insane.

Then he tries to push sicklucker by referencing his read on damdred? His points are not even legitimate.
This reads so much like hopeless trying to create a lynch outta nothing.
And for him to be actually doing stuff so he has some content. It sucks.


LYNCH HOPELESS.


This just takes me back to kush. We haven't had another ml since then. So you stepped in to defend kush for lurking, which unfortunalteyl didnlt work. But now you want to lynch hopeless for lurking. Now how much later in the game is it since kush was the only ml since then, and how does that make it so much different? I really want to see what you are thinking, you obviously have good reads but I can't follow them. Can you let me know your argument without just repeating your conclusion in caps?
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December 04 2014 02:16 GMT
#1885
On December 04 2014 11:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
no, i defended kush cause he said stupid shit.

Hopeless has said scummy shit.


Like what? anything besides that sicklucker post?
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December 04 2014 03:41 GMT
#1894
On December 04 2014 11:45 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2014 10:16 meatpudding wrote:
On December 03 2014 22:41 Half the Sky wrote:
On December 03 2014 13:02 rsoultin wrote:
Bats reads super scummy to me. Hope is a null. He did try to get me to play ball with him end of day 2, however, which is odd to me for scum.


Damn quote boxes.

I'll be completely honest, Rasputin, I might sound crazy here, but I just haven't been impressed with Meat's posting at all this game. Maybe it's inexperience, I think we're all learning. But even as a beginner myself I've had a difficult time following where he's trying to go with his posts half the time. Although now, I'm not as convinced he is scum after re-reading LS's posts.

There are eight alive right now. I'm good on you, Breshke, SL, Rasputin

We have Meat, Hopeless, Oats and Bats left.

Meat could be scum, but it's unlikely, though I will admit I'm not sold on an argument yet as to why he's not. He did say he's bad at his defense, EoD D3.

Hopeless is a complete tossup.

Bats is the clear scum for me. I think if we take him out, that will reveal all we need to know about Oats.

So in order: Bats, Hopeless and a tossup between Oats and Meat.


What would a bats flip tell you about oats? If bats flips, to me that would suggest that oats is a team, and that they were staging a bus. Can you confirm if this is what you are trying to say.


Oats has been half-defending bats and directing the lynch toward hopeless instead without actually saying that he thinks bats is town. You should probably just read the night posts for yourself and make your own judgment call.


On December 04 2014 11:49 rsoultin wrote:
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On December 04 2014 10:44 meatpudding wrote:
sl was for pushing hopeless today, he said it several times. Did he give any reason for it? Perhaps it was by the process of elimination by who he thought was town? If I remember correctly it was oats who suggested first to lynch hopeless.


Again, should probably just read the night posts. You'll see who SL was pushing and why.

My problem with hopeless is he's basically a policy lynch, which at this point in the game I feel is insufficient unless you genuinely think all the rest of us are town.


reading for myself definately, but I'm interested in what oats thinks of hopeless. Like I know oats said mopeless was scummy, and I want him to say why he thinks that.

On SL, I see he was pushing for hopeless and bats but I didn't see him say why.
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December 04 2014 04:01 GMT
#1896
On December 04 2014 12:53 rsoultin wrote:
Can probably find the quote for you, meat, but he really is just echoing me. HTS, SL and I were more or less in agreement last night before SL was killed. Take that as you will.

I don't disagree with lynching hopeless on principle. Once again it looks like we're all going to be piling on the same person, though. Except bats who suddenly reversed who he wanted to vote without being able to explain it (at least not very well when I questioned his decision). Trying to tell me that you really think mafia is going to buss their last partner voluntarily when they just lost LS? I'm kind of surprised we're buying into the same mentality as yesterday.


That's the thing, everyone says vote hl but noone can really say why. So really no one can agree on a second lynch as well.

Though I agree with breshke, at this point policy is mostly a necessity. If we don't lynch and he turns out to be scum then what?

At this point I still would vote but even when he flips it tells us nothing.
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December 04 2014 04:08 GMT
#1897
Well yeah after reading sl's filter again he was set on hopeless/bats because he had a town read on everyone else.
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December 04 2014 04:22 GMT
#1900
On December 04 2014 13:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
I said why man meat. Have you even read his filter?

It's not like there is a lot of posts, why can't you make up your own mind?


What? I have said what I'm thinking so far. To repeat, it's voting hl. But I was looking into sl as well because he was saying the same thing but I wanted to be sure why he thought that. It turns out that his argument was poe. All you said on hopeless was that he was lurking and said scummy shit. We still have all day to consolidate on a vote and it can't be that hard. Again, it's not that I don't agree with your conclusion but why can't you go into what you think the scummy shit is?
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December 04 2014 13:03 GMT
#1929
Kill hopeless first then hts. I'm sure on hopeless I don't think any defense hopeless can put forward would change my mind. He's scum.
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 04 2014 13:17 GMT
#1933
There's nothing on oats. He's acting really funny sure, and I even started to put a case against him, but he voted on ls when he could have switched. I don't think there's anything to say but if he's scum then he's terrible.
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 04 2014 13:29 GMT
#1934
Also hts, why do you want to vote bats before hopeless. This is the biggest thing I don't understand.
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 04 2014 13:29 GMT
#1935
##Vote Hopeless1der
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 04 2014 13:38 GMT
#1936
I don't think we need to plan more than one day ahead here. So if you're going to vote for who you think is scum why risk waiting for another day. Like if you vote for your second guess and you're wrong, then you still have 2 left and they can vote against you. Like bats is a town read for me I think this push is silly, but even if I have to reconsider there is still another scum and we lynch him today. Digging up old LS posts isn't proving anything and to me it smells of a desperate argument to try to make something happen with 'proof' and I don't follow it. It would help if bats was around, because I"ll admit that his latest posts have been very null and I'm going off my earlier reads.
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 06 2014 03:36 GMT
#2101
wth happened last night?
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 08 2014 12:47 GMT
#2152
##Vote Hopeless1der
Sorry don't have time to post
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meatpudding
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia520 Posts
December 08 2014 12:47 GMT
#2153
On December 08 2014 21:47 meatpudding wrote:
##Vote Hopeless1der
Sorry don't have time to post

##Vote Hopeless1der
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