EPTI'm not sure of bats, personally, but am willing to admit that's probably biased with him coming at me so hard. Seemed opportunistic from my standpoint. I will say though that generally any scum could have participated in (probably not led) all the shenanigans voting last night and come out smelling good since the lynch options probably weren't scum.
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I'm not sure of bats, personally, but am willing to admit that's probably biased with him coming at me so hard. Seemed opportunistic from my standpoint. I will say though that generally any scum could have participated in (probably not led) all the shenanigans voting last night and come out smelling good since the lynch options probably weren't scum. | ||
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bats, sl, ls without any teeth pulling...riding on damdred's coattails. hts is cool w/ meat. oats mentioned meat the moment night ended. hopeless i'd bet will be jumping right on that bandwagon too many people. someone's bussing or something's off | ||
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On December 01 2014 07:37 Breshke wrote: What has meat done that is town? Why didn't you have these views when dicksmash was lynched you seemed fine with that wagon. I'm not sure why the dicksmash vote is relevant here, but that was a race between dicks and bats that was actually fairly even until the end. Here there's nothing but meat, meat, meat. So not the same situation. As for what meat has done for town, nothing off the top of my head. Doesn't make this seem any less off. | ||
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I'd still rather be voting LS. Yes I'm still stuck on that. I still think he's contributed a whopping nada. He's also been after meatpudding's ass at least since Day 2, so either he's bussing meat, i'm wrong (along with most of the rest of the players), or we're going after the wrong person yet again. With so many uncontested votes on meat... You're not getting why this feels off? @ bats, why would it be bad if LS turns mafia, so bad he shouldn't be voted? | ||
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I will say that Damdred was trying to save Kush. The others...not so sure. | ||
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On December 01 2014 09:02 rsoultin wrote: LS has in fact been voting meat all of Day 2 until the end. Did not choose to move to kush. He is not lying about that. Edit: However, you did not vote for me until they (Damdred, bats) did, and then you said that they convinced you and added that I had voted for you as an additional reason. | ||
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As for why I voted kush...he, Damdred and you were part of my original 3 when asked at the end of night 1. I started voting you and removed it because my only issue with you was the afking/lurking and what seemed to be dodging my questions (however you weren't; i'd phrased them poorly). There was a push at EoD Day 2 to consolidate votes on either HTS or Kush. I went with Kush. Bats then started coming after me for a list I'd posted at the beginning of Day 2 (when listing my top 3, of which kush was one) and everyone (Damdred, Bats, LS, Hopeless) tried to lynch me lol, couldn't because HTS wouldn't switch votes either, moved back to HTS last minute, and Kush was lynched, flipped town. If anyone has anything to add to that/disagrees with the summary, feel free. | ||
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On December 01 2014 10:51 Oatsmaster wrote: Rsoultin, everyone voting meatpudding does not necessarily indicate that he is town, it could be that scum have no other strong pushes so they bus their buddy to get cred or buy time to further convince people that they are town. Lol that would be true except my name keeps appearing in their lists too  . Which is why I think if everyone's on him, he's town. With that 6:3 ratio, we hit another town today we're down 4:3. SL probably gets killed tonight, lynch me tomorrow. That's game. No need to sacrifice scum to do it.Not like there are a lot of town reads everyone agrees on, yeah? | ||
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Meat is suspected by a lot of people. I am now because of what happened yesterday and bats' editing my posts (which he still has failed to explain/answer for). And LS. LS would be an easy push, but he tells all of us we shouldn't vote LS, that if LS is scum it's a bad lynch. Why? I was on LS yesterday before the vote consolidation. Trfel was building a case against Bats/Damdred. Dicks had spoken out against bats. That with all the votes on meat? Meat's an easier push than I am because bats has to sell people on the idea that HTS is scum...most aren't reading him that way. HTS or I being scum really only works if we both are. Bats has already started to push that idea. He asked Damdred for his reads right before he was killed, already knowing Damdred's reads (Damdred posted them soon after EoD when kush flipped town). Bats and LS...and probably Hope who came in just in time to play shenanigans. I think Damdred was used, then killed for the cred. | ||
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As for the team, not sure on Hopeless. But Bats and LS I'm pretty sure on. Bats knew Damdred was dead before he turned up dead. Good guess, maybe, and yeah I could see Damdred being a logical choice for scum to kill, too. But bats really seemed to know. And what is this bs about lynching any scum being a bad thing? Of course this assumes that I'm town and I know a lot of you don't think that, and that the logic here As for oats...he seems to be trying to figure things out? I've never claimed to be sure of him, The third person scum I'm not sure on. I'm most sure on you, SL, and HTS as town right now...and leaning pretty sure on meat too just because of the way the votes are going. They should be trying to lynch me and aren't. Why pick scum over me? Doesn't make sense. | ||
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On December 01 2014 16:14 Breshke wrote: Are you reading Hts scum only because he didn't hammer you? Why can't you be scum and HTS town. I don't like your scum team mostly because everyone who was changing their votes around at the EoD is in them. Do you really think 3 scum would be apart of a 5 person lynch mob for now I really don't think that is the case. If you think bats killed damdred because he was townreading him why do you think I was roleblocked and trefel was killed? Trefels reads weren't imortalised with his death and lucky because he was wrong on at least damdred, so why would mafia think damdreds reads would not be reconsidered. I think Trfel was killed because he wouldn't come off bats, because he was trying the hardest in the game to figure things out, and because hardly anyone was reading him as mafia (though someone did say something about his long posts being scummy, only I can't remember who). I think both kills were solid town reads for the majority of the players in the game at the time of their deaths, which can only benefit mafia, since they can't force a lynch on them anyway. Not sure why you were roleblocked unless it was just because you've only been semi-active (pretty towny but not out there like some of the rest of the players) and they guessed you to be a likely candidate for a role. Not saying Damdred's reads would not be reconsidered. Saying that he and bats in each other's pockets plays really well to bat's advantage if he's scum, and until that little push where bats jumped on board bats was still being strongly considered. Plus SL all but said he'd follow Damdred's lead anywhere, and rolled bats right into that assessment. If bats is scum, he now has at least one town lackey. The other one most of us liked for scum is LS. I'm voting LS. ##vote LightningStrike | ||
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I'm voting LS right now because bats said don't, but didn't argue that he wasn't scum. It's weird. I want to see what happens. And I'm voting LS right now because if I do vote meat...I strongly suspect he'll flip town. On December 01 2014 05:43 batsnacks wrote: Oh and don't waste a lynch lightning. If lightning is mafia we lose. ^ How does that make any sense? More to the point, bats has not answered when I ask him. | ||
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I'd vote bats or ls today, but I doubt that bats would ever get enough traction to be lynched. LS is at least one who more than just I have said reads scum. I'm almost certain meat is town, and if meat flips town today we're all but done. One more lynch. All three mafia still alive. Just four to their three and shooting blind in the dark. I don't like it, and I'm going to try to stop it lol if only for the post game cred. | ||
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And yes, I know. I can't give better reasons than I have already. It's frustrating. If you take it from the standpoint/assumption that I am town, it's a lot stronger, because pretty sure there are enough people willing to lynch me to make it easy. At least from what I've seen ever since EoD Day 2. So if meat is scum, don't see why mafia is bussing. Regardless, meat is a null read for me and ls has been a scum read for awhile. He was my vote for day 2 until I was asked to consolidate. Hell, ya'll can lynch me tomorrow if I'm wrong, because I screwed it for all of y'all lol. But you're absolutely right that mafia is in a prime position right now. They can afford to lose scum. So if I'm scum defending scum I'm an idiot for doing this -shrugs- | ||
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and yeah you and breshke do have me wondering now if maybe they're not just bussing meat...but still, going with 3 mafia into day 4 has to be better, i would think. just running the numbers meat is town 5:3, town dies 4:3, lynch town with just 1 or 2 mafia reads from other town players (game) meat is mafia 6:2; town dies 5:2, lynch town with just 1 or 2 mafia reads from other town players 4:2, town dies 3:2, goes to another lynch round the second just seems way more risky. that's why i don't think it's a buss. could be wrong, but they could just get me lynched instead | ||
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