Student Mafia IV (New/Newish Players Welcome) - Page 4

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 01:15 GMT

#1875

On December 03 2014 23:32 batsnacks wrote:
Dudes just lynch hopeless tomorrow. You can always lynch me the next day I'm not going anywhere after how hard scum has been pushing my mislynch all game.

Why is it necessarily scum that has been pushing for your ml, do you think?

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 01:16 GMT

#1876

On December 03 2014 22:41 Half the Sky wrote:

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Damn quote boxes.

I'll be completely honest, Rasputin, I might sound crazy here, but I just haven't been impressed with Meat's posting at all this game. Maybe it's inexperience, I think we're all learning. But even as a beginner myself I've had a difficult time following where he's trying to go with his posts half the time. Although now, I'm not as convinced he is scum after re-reading LS's posts.

There are eight alive right now. I'm good on you, Breshke, SL, Rasputin

We have Meat, Hopeless, Oats and Bats left.

Meat could be scum, but it's unlikely, though I will admit I'm not sold on an argument yet as to why he's not. He did say he's bad at his defense, EoD D3.

Hopeless is a complete tossup.

Bats is the clear scum for me. I think if we take him out, that will reveal all we need to know about Oats.

So in order: Bats, Hopeless and a tossup between Oats and Meat.

What would a bats flip tell you about oats? If bats flips, to me that would suggest that oats is a team, and that they were staging a bus. Can you confirm if this is what you are trying to say.

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 01:28 GMT

#1877

Sorry I didn't post reads during the night phase. I was pretty happy that at this point I wouldn't be shot. No problem with updating what I have.

Bats has been under close scrutiny since D1, started by oats and having varying degrees of success. Though he never acted like scum that had been caught. He's been reading slightly town to me, at least not scum at all. I'm bothered by his night posts and late day posts, they are null at best. I can say rasputin hts and the late sl throwing their opinions around but bats is just trying to counter without pushing too much. So with that I can see some reasoning behind the swing to him, I think a case could be made for bats today.

Knowing the alignment of ls is a big step up here. It's been repeated that ls was sheeping bats, and that would not have been a super bright move for a team. From that alone I would say the ls flip was in bats favour.

Maybe he isn't doing the most out of anybody but at least he has been doing something.

On November 28 2014 16:42 batsnacks wrote:

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I'm having a hard time reading people in this game. I can't tell the difference between who's confused, misguided, mafia, or afk.

This actually sums up my thoughts as well. It kind of explains to me why bats has been going after everybody without going after anybody. It's more of a feeling that he is not scum rather than that he is town. (usually) He's been asking good questions but only making one-liner reads and not putting forward any convincing cases. I think he is just unsure of where to go. So now is the time to step it up. We're on a roll so prove to me that you are town and let's lynch scum before I decide to vote you myself.

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 01:30 GMT

#1879

So far I'm with voting hopeless. I can't remember what he said that I thought was scummy, I guess it was more about the way he said it. I'll take another look at yesterday because he hasn't posted much in the night. Even though slam only came on once or twice I still had a scum lean on him so I'll take a good look.

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 01:39 GMT

#1880

On December 01 2014 11:37 Hopeless1der wrote:

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But i dont wanna. meat is so clearly scum, cant i just coast another day?

This is a little bit of sarcasm, but isn't he just pushing the easy lynch instead of making a case? Was the same coasting tactic as ls used.

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 01:44 GMT

#1881

sl was for pushing hopeless today, he said it several times. Did he give any reason for it? Perhaps it was by the process of elimination by who he thought was town? If I remember correctly it was oats who suggested first to lynch hopeless.

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 01:49 GMT

#1882

On December 03 2014 23:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Hopeless is massively scum.

You guys are giving him a free pass for lurking?
No town lurks this hard when they are almost gonna lose the game.

scum does though, because apparently nobody wants to lynch him for it.

I really cant believe that you guys dont think lurking is a legitimate scumtell. This late in the game, it is.

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On December 02 2014 11:25 Hopeless1der wrote:
meatpudding dies today. In the meantime I want someone (not sicklucker) to comment on the following:

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On November 26 2014 09:10 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred I think what ive seen is scum. I found it super weird how he never asked breske one question but he asked me 15 of the same question. I dont want to push him yet because I think I can soulread him as I have in a current game I cant talk about.

Bresk individuality I dont have much but he hasint been around. I just put him in that longshot scum team from their really weird day 1 interactions together.

On November 26 2014 10:13 sicklucker wrote:

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Well Ill take my town read away I thought he was a new player but I did like him calling out damdred.

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On November 27 2014 04:41 sicklucker wrote:
Ya dont vote slam. Hes been pretty inactive in the other game too. Ill be able to read him well after mafia reading him so easy I think. same with damdred. They will also be great town assets if they are.

On November 27 2014 04:45 sicklucker wrote:
if we have a cop or tracker check damdred. Dont check me ill be oozing town soon.

On November 27 2014 05:40 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred I just think you played a very scared cautious mafia game before but that has yet to be confirmed. Once you come out with this im very happy to join in on your horse.

On November 27 2014 06:11 sicklucker wrote:
Kinda ya Im skeptical of damdred but his posts were enough for me to join in. rsoultin is not he joined after

On November 27 2014 08:16 sicklucker wrote:
Damdred im not even pushing you and your so defensive? what gives?

On November 28 2014 16:27 sicklucker wrote:
Damdreds been super defensive. I talked alot early about how im going to soul read him and hes put alot of effort into making me look bad. As it is now hes gotta die at some point things can change. I would rather solve the bats mystery first.

On November 30 2014 07:36 sicklucker wrote:
Ah shit I missed the vote im so bad. Catching up did we rly vote out one of my top towns

Once again, sicklucker was on Damdred's team in his previous game. He was not reading him, but he claims to have developed the innate ability to read damdred (and slam) since he just played with them together as scum. How does that claim not bother anyone? How does that even make sense? I do not like the way that his read on damdred develops. I do not like the way that he tries to take credit for damdred being nked. His story changes constantly and he is being townread for being insane.

Then he tries to push sicklucker by referencing his read on damdred? His points are not even legitimate.
This reads so much like hopeless trying to create a lynch outta nothing.
And for him to be actually doing stuff so he has some content. It sucks.

LYNCH HOPELESS.

This just takes me back to kush. We haven't had another ml since then. So you stepped in to defend kush for lurking, which unfortunalteyl didnlt work. But now you want to lynch hopeless for lurking. Now how much later in the game is it since kush was the only ml since then, and how does that make it so much different? I really want to see what you are thinking, you obviously have good reads but I can't follow them. Can you let me know your argument without just repeating your conclusion in caps?

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 02:16 GMT

#1885

On December 04 2014 11:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
no, i defended kush cause he said stupid shit.

Hopeless has said scummy shit.

Like what? anything besides that sicklucker post?

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 03:41 GMT

#1894

On December 04 2014 11:45 rsoultin wrote:

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Oats has been half-defending bats and directing the lynch toward hopeless instead without actually saying that he thinks bats is town. You should probably just read the night posts for yourself and make your own judgment call.

On December 04 2014 11:49 rsoultin wrote:

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Again, should probably just read the night posts. You'll see who SL was pushing and why.

My problem with hopeless is he's basically a policy lynch, which at this point in the game I feel is insufficient unless you genuinely think all the rest of us are town.

reading for myself definately, but I'm interested in what oats thinks of hopeless. Like I know oats said mopeless was scummy, and I want him to say why he thinks that.

On SL, I see he was pushing for hopeless and bats but I didn't see him say why.

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 04:01 GMT

#1896

On December 04 2014 12:53 rsoultin wrote:
Can probably find the quote for you, meat, but he really is just echoing me. HTS, SL and I were more or less in agreement last night before SL was killed. Take that as you will.

I don't disagree with lynching hopeless on principle. Once again it looks like we're all going to be piling on the same person, though. Except bats who suddenly reversed who he wanted to vote without being able to explain it (at least not very well when I questioned his decision). Trying to tell me that you really think mafia is going to buss their last partner voluntarily when they just lost LS? I'm kind of surprised we're buying into the same mentality as yesterday.

That's the thing, everyone says vote hl but noone can really say why. So really no one can agree on a second lynch as well.

Though I agree with breshke, at this point policy is mostly a necessity. If we don't lynch and he turns out to be scum then what?

At this point I still would vote but even when he flips it tells us nothing.

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 04:08 GMT

#1897

Well yeah after reading sl's filter again he was set on hopeless/bats because he had a town read on everyone else.

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 04:22 GMT

#1900

On December 04 2014 13:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
I said why man meat. Have you even read his filter?

It's not like there is a lot of posts, why can't you make up your own mind?

What? I have said what I'm thinking so far. To repeat, it's voting hl. But I was looking into sl as well because he was saying the same thing but I wanted to be sure why he thought that. It turns out that his argument was poe. All you said on hopeless was that he was lurking and said scummy shit. We still have all day to consolidate on a vote and it can't be that hard. Again, it's not that I don't agree with your conclusion but why can't you go into what you think the scummy shit is?

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 13:03 GMT

#1929

Kill hopeless first then hts. I'm sure on hopeless I don't think any defense hopeless can put forward would change my mind. He's scum.

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 13:17 GMT

#1933

There's nothing on oats. He's acting really funny sure, and I even started to put a case against him, but he voted on ls when he could have switched. I don't think there's anything to say but if he's scum then he's terrible.

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 13:29 GMT

#1934

Also hts, why do you want to vote bats before hopeless. This is the biggest thing I don't understand.

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 13:29 GMT

#1935

##Vote Hopeless1der

meatpudding

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December 04 2014 13:38 GMT

#1936

I don't think we need to plan more than one day ahead here. So if you're going to vote for who you think is scum why risk waiting for another day. Like if you vote for your second guess and you're wrong, then you still have 2 left and they can vote against you. Like bats is a town read for me I think this push is silly, but even if I have to reconsider there is still another scum and we lynch him today. Digging up old LS posts isn't proving anything and to me it smells of a desperate argument to try to make something happen with 'proof' and I don't follow it. It would help if bats was around, because I"ll admit that his latest posts have been very null and I'm going off my earlier reads.