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On November 24 2014 23:40 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 22:28 ritoky wrote:
people posting around the time of that post:
rayn, GB, templar, damdred, slam
@damdred, slam, templar - why did you not question rayn in regards to his save claim particularly when there's nothing in the rules about it and someone even pointed it out? Hi. This is a good point. I actually wasn't here, but it is something I had already considered. It is highly unlikely to be false however and a really dangerous move for scum to pull because the medic knows who they saved. Therefore, while not holding Rayn 100% confirmed, I am basically consid- Oh yeah. Rayn also sees well with the eyes of Hijole; though different from Chupazi the way of Hijole is not useless. For tthis i then say ÁNDALE PUES RAYN
You know, medic could actually save mafia Rayn.
Anyway, this will confirm itself throghout the game.
WHO ARE WE LYNCHING TODAY?
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On November 24 2014 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 09:17 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm out people.
Reevaluate your reads. I want to lynch between sick lucker, ritoky, or slam today. Give thoughts.
Also, I want damdred to comment on Templar and Templar to comment on damdred. I also want both commenting on slam. You guys are refusing to do this awesome. Templar, please comment on damdred. How do you read him?Damdred, please comment on Templar. How do you read him?Templar and Damdred, please comment on Slam. What do you think of him? How do you read himIf you guys keep ignoring these questions I'll lynch both.
Damdred is a null read, Alakaslam is a town --> null --> slight scum read as I read through his filter.
Damdred's responses to my pressure are towny, although they take a while to get anywhere.
My first problem with him now is his response here.
On November 24 2014 11:49 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 09:17 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm out people.
Reevaluate your reads. I want to lynch between sick lucker, ritoky, or slam today. Give thoughts.
Also, I want damdred to comment on Templar and Templar to comment on damdred. I also want both commenting on slam. You guys are refusing to do this awesome. Templar, please comment on damdred. How do you read him?Damdred, please comment on Templar. How do you read him?Templar and Damdred, please comment on Slam. What do you think of him? How do you read himIf you guys keep ignoring these questions I'll lynch both. Sorry just got home from work crazy day. I'll start off with Slam. I really don't know how to read slam, Oats or VE told me you can tell something about slams alignment how freely he posts and if he makes posts that actually make sense. If thats actually correct then he looks townish even if he was wrong on the kos. Templars is a really hard alignment for me, i had a town read going into the night with him with how he was thinking. But his night activity with hitting me over the head for thinking he was towny really set me back on him and left a bad taste in my mouth. He read me as pinkish at one point during the night (mafia lean) I take it, but now has me null by his last drawing, his case for today was some form of trap for people to stumble into which doesn't make much sense to me. He also said last night that if my play did not improve dramatically he would lynch me but besides a few posts in response to me hasn't really pushed me or tried to get me lynched despite my activity being low again today in fact he only mentioned my scum read SL and I think hes willing to vote with me. All of its really weird play when you consider last night and today and fell off activity wise so i'm moving him into my scum lean category
So first of all, he doesn't actually answer your question about slam. He also tried to make me look worse than I should look for pressuring him over the night. Let me put something very clearly right now: I was not reading him as a slight pink solely because he was saying I was town, but because he was trying to look like he was contributing without providing any substance.
He ridiculed my pressure of him in its aftermath which is extremely confusing, acting as if I should have never tried. So, I read him null at the time as these two conflict quite a bit.
Also,
On November 24 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote:
Also was just rereading something to see if i remembered correctly, besides SL and his paint Temp hasn't given reads today even though hes asked and dodged a lot today about them. Also his read on SL is just a trap so not sure
Why didn't you go at him again about those reads he was hesitant to share with you before GB?
I already said this was an actual meta-read, and that it didn't exist for the sole purpose of being a trap. I said this multiple times so I don't know why he's mentioning anything else.
Alakaslam:
I don't really know him at all and he's extremely confusing.
That said, his posts towards the end of day one gave me a town vibe as he was active, asking questions to gather current data instead of merely reading the thread to catch up (although it seems he did both). The exception:
On November 22 2014 08:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Let's kill Liancourt.
Because why not. Someone defense him for to FITE ME because I dont' think he will even defend himself.
Followed by a "You don't want to lynch him? Then who do you want to lynch?" post towards me, followed by switching to lead the lynch on the other lurker. If he was going to lynch a lurker, why did he bother to do anything besides figure out why he should unvote me?
On November 22 2014 11:21 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:On November 22 2014 11:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Ritoky have you ever been in a game with Chezinu Izhunizech?
I can't remember if I spelled that right, sorry C
Please answer promptly ritoky. nope, no idea who that is ... Chezinu... Anyway so Chezinu does as he does. He plays according to the House of Brown. He is the founder, I visit on occasion. He sees VERY clearly with the eyes of CHUPAZI, my own vision is about 20:20 left eye, 20:32 right eye. However Chezinu sees with a clarity unsurpassed at 20:10 both eyes. As scum he is to be feared. He will snipe every blue and guide the RB, allowing the blues to live just long enough that they do not realize they are compromised. As town he is indecipherable to the scum, suddenly he knows your alignment and you do not know how, but he simply KNOWS. I fear him more when I roll scum than just about anyone on the site. He is not to be lost Day1.
Also, I'm curious on this post. I have seen no evidence of what Chezinu has been said to be capable of in this thread. All he is doing is posting images of various geometric shapes, save one large list of reads. So unless he "knows" the mafia the above post is just filler.
His day 2 activity is similarly confusing to me. His activity pre-page o' spam mainly consists of talking about the night actions and not actually doing anything about the reads flying around, as he did in day 1.
On November 24 2014 15:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Deli rean is actually pretty slow.
You know I find that often, when vets early in the game make a read but it gets ignored and is followed by a mislynch, the read was actually correct.
Having been humbled, and finding all The vets are most likely town, I will vote Templar with my phone paint
In case sent doesn't recognize it
Nice explanation of voting me... wait
Most of his posts that aren't talking about the night actions are "I will consider this" followed by not really doing anything about it, filler, asking for help figuring people out, or stuff I actually can't read like this
On November 24 2014 15:30 Alakaslam wrote:Oh! True I haven't given reads... So I would say Sicklucker and Lian aren't cool, but Lian wants to lynch temp, similar to vets, doubt he would bus after attention fell away. So can't both be scum! Glowing bro b mah brodda, seems he wouldn't like that; guess he just that HAWT gal in high school dat iz lieks by erry body but h8s ppl, including me  Den vets praktikal konfirm SSON; town actually in a very good place. I give Chezinu much  earlier you should know how I see him Who is left? Ah damdred I dunno I DINNAE see him
The thing about the Chezinu read in this post is that we don't know how Alakaslam sees him. We just know that he respects him as a player, nothing he has said about Chezinu is actually alignment-indicative.
I don't know, he seems like he is dodging doing anything helpful that makes sense. His list of reads looks rushed (and I can barely read it) and he hasn't done anything original since day 1 at all except filler. I feel like this heavily depends on his meta but I've already been driven to madness by looking through his filter here.
On November 24 2014 23:41 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 22:41 ritoky wrote:On November 24 2014 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hosts can you confirm whether or not a doctor save is informed in case they get shot. regardless of if the host says yes or no, the fact that you posted this gives me a town boner +1 rayn
Will you still have this opinion if Rayn is basically confirmed as mafia by the host? (Although I seriously doubt that will happen as mafia Rayn probably asked by PM, no?)
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On November 24 2014 23:48 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 23:40 Alakaslam wrote:On November 24 2014 22:28 ritoky wrote:
people posting around the time of that post:
rayn, GB, templar, damdred, slam
@damdred, slam, templar - why did you not question rayn in regards to his save claim particularly when there's nothing in the rules about it and someone even pointed it out? Hi. This is a good point. I actually wasn't here, but it is something I had already considered. It is highly unlikely to be false however and a really dangerous move for scum to pull because the medic knows who they saved. Therefore, while not holding Rayn 100% confirmed, I am basically consid- Oh yeah. Rayn also sees well with the eyes of Hijole; though different from Chupazi the way of Hijole is not useless. For tthis i then say ÁNDALE PUES RAYN You know, medic could actually save mafia Rayn. Anyway, this will confirm itself throghout the game. WHO ARE WE LYNCHING TODAY?
You mean, medic saves the mafia Rayn from vig, mafia shoots Holyflare and janitor shoots hopeless (who was not generally considered to be towny)?
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On November 24 2014 23:59 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 23:48 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 23:40 Alakaslam wrote:On November 24 2014 22:28 ritoky wrote:
people posting around the time of that post:
rayn, GB, templar, damdred, slam
@damdred, slam, templar - why did you not question rayn in regards to his save claim particularly when there's nothing in the rules about it and someone even pointed it out? Hi. This is a good point. I actually wasn't here, but it is something I had already considered. It is highly unlikely to be false however and a really dangerous move for scum to pull because the medic knows who they saved. Therefore, while not holding Rayn 100% confirmed, I am basically consid- Oh yeah. Rayn also sees well with the eyes of Hijole; though different from Chupazi the way of Hijole is not useless. For tthis i then say ÁNDALE PUES RAYN You know, medic could actually save mafia Rayn. Anyway, this will confirm itself throghout the game. WHO ARE WE LYNCHING TODAY? You mean, medic saves the mafia Rayn from vig, mafia shoots Holyflare and janitor shoots hopeless (who was not generally considered to be towny)?
Nope.
Vigi shoots hopeless
Mafia shoots holyflare
Luger fails (50% chance)
Mafia Rayn is healed by the doctor. He gets the notification. He sees the Luger failed and claims he was shot AND healed, confirming himself as town.
It's more likely that his claim is real, tbh. But this is a possibility, if everytime someone is healed, they know it, even if they aren't shot.
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On November 25 2014 00:04 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 23:59 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 23:48 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 23:40 Alakaslam wrote:On November 24 2014 22:28 ritoky wrote:
people posting around the time of that post:
rayn, GB, templar, damdred, slam
@damdred, slam, templar - why did you not question rayn in regards to his save claim particularly when there's nothing in the rules about it and someone even pointed it out? Hi. This is a good point. I actually wasn't here, but it is something I had already considered. It is highly unlikely to be false however and a really dangerous move for scum to pull because the medic knows who they saved. Therefore, while not holding Rayn 100% confirmed, I am basically consid- Oh yeah. Rayn also sees well with the eyes of Hijole; though different from Chupazi the way of Hijole is not useless. For tthis i then say ÁNDALE PUES RAYN You know, medic could actually save mafia Rayn. Anyway, this will confirm itself throghout the game. WHO ARE WE LYNCHING TODAY? You mean, medic saves the mafia Rayn from vig, mafia shoots Holyflare and janitor shoots hopeless (who was not generally considered to be towny)? Nope. Vigi shoots hopeless Mafia shoots holyflare Luger fails (50% chance) Mafia Rayn is healed by the doctor. He gets the notification. He sees the Luger failed and claims he was shot AND healed, confirming himself as town. It's more likely that his claim is real, tbh. But this is a possibility, if everytime someone is healed, they know it, even if they aren't shot.
Seriously doubt that you would get notified a doctor healed you unless you were actually shot.
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On November 24 2014 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is an idiot if he rhinks me and ve would do something this stupid as scum because if i am scum it means ve is scum aswell.
So in case that's the case and there is a vigi ve is auto-lynched. In case there is a doctor who didn't doc me BOTH of me and ve are auto-lynched.
RIGHT GB!!! SUCH GREAT SCUMPLAY ROFL!
That dude is telling the confirmed townies are mafia. ROfl. Again. ROFL!!!
Whoa whoa whoa....how does your claim in any way affect mine?
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Can we vote someone between slam, sick lucker or ritoky please?
I really don't want to lynch ritoky today but I will if you guys don't want to lynch the others.
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Why those three GB? Why isn't templar in the list?
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On November 25 2014 01:03 Damdred wrote:
Why those three GB? Why isn't templar in the list?
Because
I
Townread
Him.
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How do you take his response to what you asked of him right now towards myself and slam then?
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On November 25 2014 01:11 Damdred wrote:
How do you take his response to what you asked of him right now towards myself and slam then?
I'm at work so I didn't put much thought in it. I'm gonna the read it but I read it as "meh"
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On November 24 2014 23:58 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 09:17 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm out people.
Reevaluate your reads. I want to lynch between sick lucker, ritoky, or slam today. Give thoughts.
Also, I want damdred to comment on Templar and Templar to comment on damdred. I also want both commenting on slam. You guys are refusing to do this awesome. Templar, please comment on damdred. How do you read him?Damdred, please comment on Templar. How do you read him?Templar and Damdred, please comment on Slam. What do you think of him? How do you read himIf you guys keep ignoring these questions I'll lynch both. Damdred is a null read, Alakaslam is a town --> null --> slight scum read as I read through his filter. Damdred's responses to my pressure are towny, although they take a while to get anywhere. My first problem with him now is his response here. Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 11:49 Damdred wrote:On November 24 2014 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 09:17 GlowingBear wrote:
I'm out people.
Reevaluate your reads. I want to lynch between sick lucker, ritoky, or slam today. Give thoughts.
Also, I want damdred to comment on Templar and Templar to comment on damdred. I also want both commenting on slam. You guys are refusing to do this awesome. Templar, please comment on damdred. How do you read him?Damdred, please comment on Templar. How do you read him?Templar and Damdred, please comment on Slam. What do you think of him? How do you read himIf you guys keep ignoring these questions I'll lynch both. Sorry just got home from work crazy day. I'll start off with Slam. I really don't know how to read slam, Oats or VE told me you can tell something about slams alignment how freely he posts and if he makes posts that actually make sense. If thats actually correct then he looks townish even if he was wrong on the kos. Templars is a really hard alignment for me, i had a town read going into the night with him with how he was thinking. But his night activity with hitting me over the head for thinking he was towny really set me back on him and left a bad taste in my mouth. He read me as pinkish at one point during the night (mafia lean) I take it, but now has me null by his last drawing, his case for today was some form of trap for people to stumble into which doesn't make much sense to me. He also said last night that if my play did not improve dramatically he would lynch me but besides a few posts in response to me hasn't really pushed me or tried to get me lynched despite my activity being low again today in fact he only mentioned my scum read SL and I think hes willing to vote with me. All of its really weird play when you consider last night and today and fell off activity wise so i'm moving him into my scum lean category So first of all, he doesn't actually answer your question about slam. He also tried to make me look worse than I should look for pressuring him over the night. Let me put something very clearly right now: I was not reading him as a slight pink solely because he was saying I was town, but because he was trying to look like he was contributing without providing any substance. He ridiculed my pressure of him in its aftermath which is extremely confusing, acting as if I should have never tried. So, I read him null at the time as these two conflict quite a bit. Also, Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote:
Also was just rereading something to see if i remembered correctly, besides SL and his paint Temp hasn't given reads today even though hes asked and dodged a lot today about them. Also his read on SL is just a trap so not sure
Why didn't you go at him again about those reads he was hesitant to share with you before GB? I already said this was an actual meta-read, and that it didn't exist for the sole purpose of being a trap. I said this multiple times so I don't know why he's mentioning anything else. Alakaslam: I don't really know him at all and he's extremely confusing. (I am sorry. When I tried to be more mainstream Rayn & Lian lost their shyt. So I lost my shyt again.) That said, his posts towards the end of day one gave me a town vibe as he was active, asking questions to gather current data instead of merely reading the thread to catch up (although it seems he did both). (Well yeah, I need to catch up...?) The exception: (and nobody did and he totes went unnoticed and I was like this guy could Deffo be scum, until he comes back and explains a few things and everyone big townreads him because... Ah can someone remind me why Lian is town? Like wtf?) Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 08:15 Alakaslam wrote:
Let's kill Liancourt.
Because why not. Someone defense him for to FITE ME because I dont' think he will even defend himself. Followed by a "You don't want to lynch him? Then who do you want to lynch?" post towards me, followed by switching to lead the lynch on the other lurker. If he was going to lynch a lurker, why did he bother to do anything besides figure out why he should unvote me? Show nested quote +On November 22 2014 11:21 Alakaslam wrote:On November 22 2014 11:15 ritoky wrote:On November 22 2014 11:14 Alakaslam wrote:
Ritoky have you ever been in a game with Chezinu Izhunizech?
I can't remember if I spelled that right, sorry C
Please answer promptly ritoky. nope, no idea who that is ... Chezinu... Anyway so Chezinu does as he does. He plays according to the House of Brown. He is the founder, I visit on occasion. He sees VERY clearly with the eyes of CHUPAZI, my own vision is about 20:20 left eye, 20:32 right eye. However Chezinu sees with a clarity unsurpassed at 20:10 both eyes. As scum he is to be feared. He will snipe every blue and guide the RB, allowing the blues to live just long enough that they do not realize they are compromised. As town he is indecipherable to the scum, suddenly he knows your alignment and you do not know how, but he simply KNOWS. I fear him more when I roll scum than just about anyone on the site. He is not to be lost Day1. Also, I'm curious on this post. I have seen no evidence of what Chezinu has been said to be capable of in this thread. All he is doing is posting images of various geometric shapes, save one large list of reads. So unless he "knows" the mafia the above post is just filler. (I don't claim to understand Chezinu; I have learned much from him though. It is a way to seek the uncommon knowledge.) His day 2 activity is similarly confusing to me. His activity pre-page o' spam mainly consists of talking about the night actions and not actually doing anything about the reads flying around, as he did in day 1. Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 15:18 Alakaslam wrote:
Deli rean is actually pretty slow.
You know I find that often, when vets early in the game make a read but it gets ignored and is followed by a mislynch, the read was actually correct.
Having been humbled, and finding all The vets are most likely town, I will vote Templar with my phone paint
In case sent doesn't recognize it Nice explanation of voting me... wait (it was a sheep vote, what can I say? XD) Most of his posts that aren't talking about the night actions are "I will consider this" followed by not really doing anything about it, filler, asking for help figuring people out, or stuff I actually can't read like this Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 15:30 Alakaslam wrote:Oh! True I haven't given reads... So I would say Sicklucker and Lian aren't cool, but Lian wants to lynch temp, similar to vets, doubt he would bus after attention fell away. So can't both be scum! Glowing bro b mah brodda, seems he wouldn't like that; guess he just that HAWT gal in high school dat iz lieks by erry body but h8s ppl, including me Den vets praktikal konfirm SSON; town actually in a very good place. I give Chezinu much earlier you should know how I see him Who is left? Ah damdred I dunno I DINNAE see him The thing about the Chezinu read in this post is that we don't know how Alakaslam sees him. We just know that he respects him as a player, nothing he has said about Chezinu is actually alignment-indicative. (I fear him as both alignments as he is basically a macro of my own play; if I am some strange, half insane jedi, he is EV Yoda.) I don't know, he seems like he is dodging doing anything helpful that makes sense. His list of reads looks rushed (and I can barely read it) and he hasn't done anything original since day 1 at all except filler. I feel like this heavily depends on his meta but I've already been driven to madness by looking through his filter here. (Curse of Alakaslam ™) Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 23:41 Alakaslam wrote:On November 24 2014 22:41 ritoky wrote:On November 24 2014 22:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hosts can you confirm whether or not a doctor save is informed in case they get shot. regardless of if the host says yes or no, the fact that you posted this gives me a town boner +1 rayn Will you still have this opinion if Rayn is basically confirmed as mafia by the host? (Although I seriously doubt that will happen as mafia Rayn probably asked by PM, no?)
I say stuff up inside there
But generally: I was gathering info and it all said "Vets are arguing!" And "heck ppl just fite fite fite and it says very little"
BUT I felt the bit about vets fighting was very important- I decided I should not trust their read.
So usually I default to voting question marks or sheeping when in a situation where I am unsure and worried. Since I was both, AND the folks I would usually sheep were all pants on head (fighting while agreeing on you & hopeless) I decided the only lurker I percieved as at all scummy (Lian) should go, until hopeless (who I townread) pointed out that killersos was an even bigger lurker.
Hence.
However ultimately, seeing all the foolishness about hopeless has reminded me I am indeed on my own this game, whatever alignment the vets are.
So I will vote for SL.
Because I have had that nagging gut thjng and he has made some egregious blunders; and I am thinking at this point too scummy to be scum doesn't exist.
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On November 24 2014 22:26 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 22:04 GlowingBear wrote:
OP says you receive a message when veteran is shot
OP says you receive a message when you are roleblocked
OP says nothing about being healed and shot.
Tbh, after I'm writing this, I'm more inclined to believe Rayn lied and we should lynch him. huh so it seems you did, guess i missed this somewhere. my bad. why the hell did no one follow up on this thought at all???????????? who was around when you posted this and just accepted it as fact? like why wouldn't people be skeptical especially those in the last game?
I thought it was a bit skeptical but not for the same reasons. By coming out and saying hes medic saved hes telling mafia that neither him or ff are not the medic. He was already like the top town so he had no reason to help mafia figure out who the medic is.
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I dont know what blunders ive made and you didnt even say. Ive been way more proactive then you. Just because you use fancy words isint gonna get you a town read.
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That's my fault. Yes. Doctor and target are notified in the event of a successful save.
OP has been updated appropriately.
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On November 25 2014 00:11 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 22:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
GB is an idiot if he rhinks me and ve would do something this stupid as scum because if i am scum it means ve is scum aswell.
So in case that's the case and there is a vigi ve is auto-lynched. In case there is a doctor who didn't doc me BOTH of me and ve are auto-lynched.
RIGHT GB!!! SUCH GREAT SCUMPLAY ROFL!
That dude is telling the confirmed townies are mafia. ROfl. Again. ROFL!!! Whoa whoa whoa....how does your claim in any way affect mine?
It actually diesn't.
I just derped because i happen to know mafia used the luger pistol and wrote the post that in mind.
Anyways let's kill GB. He actually implied the same thing i did when we had claimed.
Well Templar just did that aswell lol. 
Idk i am not voting anyone other than gb or templar today.
If gb is town he really doesn't have any clue what mafia does and whatnot because he is suggesting insane shit. Also his votinggistiry and reads are terible and the way he contributed with me and hf on n1 makes bo sense from town pov. It's way more likely he was just agreeing with us because then he would shoot us.
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Hey i am confirmed town.
SUCK IT SCUMMYBEAR!!!
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Why is no one voting stop being pussy cats
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And before someone says "why would gb argue you are mafia as mafia as knows you are telling the truth" don't even try.
He's done same kinda mindtricks before.
It's simple. Suggesting i would fakeclaim being saved makes 0 sense. Because i was like everyone's townread. It makes no sense to buy town credit like that because i wouldn't fucking need it!!!
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Rayn how do you feel about templar and gb being a scum team? Is this like a set thing for you or do you think theirs a chance one is town.
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