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On November 24 2014 01:49 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 01:47 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:45 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:42 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:37 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:34 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:33 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:32 GlowingBear wrote: Also, Templar, I need you to answer this: am I scum for voting for the killer SOS lynch? No. What I did is a pretty scummy thing. What makes you believe I'm town? I'm pretty sure you like to lynch lurkers regardless of what alignment you are. And this post is serious bait because you don't actually believe that. I don't actually believe what? That your vote on KillerSOS is scummy. Well, I don't find it scummy because I'm town so, lol.But if I was someone else, I would be suspicious of this. You literally just said it was scummy. Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 01:34 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:33 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:32 GlowingBear wrote: Also, Templar, I need you to answer this: am I scum for voting for the killer SOS lynch? No. What I did is a pretty scummy thing. What makes you believe I'm town?
It is, objectively. It's not on my perspective because my role pm says I'm town. That's what I'm trying to say.
I know what you tried to do here but it differs a lot from what I've brought from you.
Another question: what in my gameplay makes you think I'm town?
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On November 24 2014 01:51 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 01:49 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:47 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:45 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:42 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:37 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:34 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:33 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:32 GlowingBear wrote: Also, Templar, I need you to answer this: am I scum for voting for the killer SOS lynch? No. What I did is a pretty scummy thing. What makes you believe I'm town? I'm pretty sure you like to lynch lurkers regardless of what alignment you are. And this post is serious bait because you don't actually believe that. I don't actually believe what? That your vote on KillerSOS is scummy. Well, I don't find it scummy because I'm town so, lol.But if I was someone else, I would be suspicious of this. You literally just said it was scummy. On November 24 2014 01:34 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:33 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:32 GlowingBear wrote: Also, Templar, I need you to answer this: am I scum for voting for the killer SOS lynch? No. What I did is a pretty scummy thing. What makes you believe I'm town? It is, objectively. It's not on my perspective because my role pm says I'm town. That's what I'm trying to say. I know what you tried to do here but it differs a lot from what I've brought from you. Another question: what in my gameplay makes you think I'm town? Nothing in particular, which is why I am reading you null.
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On November 24 2014 01:55 The_Templar wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 01:51 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:49 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:47 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:45 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:42 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:37 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:34 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:33 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:32 GlowingBear wrote: Also, Templar, I need you to answer this: am I scum for voting for the killer SOS lynch? No. What I did is a pretty scummy thing. What makes you believe I'm town? I'm pretty sure you like to lynch lurkers regardless of what alignment you are. And this post is serious bait because you don't actually believe that. I don't actually believe what? That your vote on KillerSOS is scummy. Well, I don't find it scummy because I'm town so, lol.But if I was someone else, I would be suspicious of this. You literally just said it was scummy. On November 24 2014 01:34 GlowingBear wrote:On November 24 2014 01:33 The_Templar wrote:On November 24 2014 01:32 GlowingBear wrote: Also, Templar, I need you to answer this: am I scum for voting for the killer SOS lynch? No. What I did is a pretty scummy thing. What makes you believe I'm town? It is, objectively. It's not on my perspective because my role pm says I'm town. That's what I'm trying to say. I know what you tried to do here but it differs a lot from what I've brought from you. Another question: what in my gameplay makes you think I'm town? Nothing in particular, which is why I am reading you null.
Argh. What about those reads you didn't want to share with me, then?
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VE is never scum as an un cc big GB what you talkin bout
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On November 24 2014 02:03 Damdred wrote: VE is never scum as an un cc big GB what you talkin bout
Talking hypothetically, if he didn't claim, would you read him as scum? Remember that vigi has more than one bullet
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Why is that even important? If he hadn't of claimed I thought there was enough to see him scummy
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On November 24 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote: Why is that even important? If he hadn't of claimed I thought there was enough to see him scummy
It is important because you saw he was playing just like Devil's Riddle mafia, pushed on him, and suddenly your vote was on sick lucker. You didn't seem to push VE like you were scumreading him. You didn't seem to convince people he is mafia. Why is that?
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On November 24 2014 02:23 The_Templar wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/honStM6.png) help me finish this please
You're lacking scumreads
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On November 24 2014 02:27 GlowingBear wrote:You're lacking scumreads Those are the red arrows
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Fuck this, I was going to write this after I have reevaluated day2 interactions but people don't want to play. I'll write it now and do the things I should be doing.
Alright, VE and Rayn can't be both mafia. If they fake claimed together mafia would lose 2 players. Not a winning strategy. There is noone pushing them so we can assume, for now, that the claims were true.
There -are a lot people that aren't insightful in this game. I'm starting to fear the most active players are all town fighting each other.
I also believe that mafia would push me for the "scummy" vote. HF is dead and Rayn is probably town, so it leaves ritoky as possible mafia. Specially if you realise that he blames me for killing SOS but he didn't try to convince others that hopeless was a better lynch.
Mafia was probably split into the wagons too. Two if the three main wagons flipped green, which means they were probat out of danger in a way they didn't have to consolidate.
You can say whatever you want about Chezinu, but he wasted his vote on day 1, and so did lian.
I will GUESS the scum team. It means I don't have strong reasons. It's a guess. Slam, ritoky, lian, sick lucker
This is my list of preference, then. Slam and sick lucker first, ritoky at the very end. I may not lynch ritoky today and if you give me another opinion (Chezinu, FF), I'm open to it, since I'm hating thee both players too.
Templar is probably town, he has no reason to make a case on sicklucker when I'm an easy lynch today. Damdred is townish because he had the same read as I on VE on early game and he sounds like town damdred (gut feeling)
Rayn and VE probably town for claiming.
I don't care for FF's roleblock claim.
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On November 24 2014 02:25 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 02:20 Damdred wrote: Why is that even important? If he hadn't of claimed I thought there was enough to see him scummy It is important because you saw he was playing just like Devil's Riddle mafia, pushed on him, and suddenly your vote was on sick lucker. You didn't seem to push VE like you were scumreading him. You didn't seem to convince people he is mafia. Why is that?
Your right I did say he was playing that way, and he was. Bit the thing that was most telling about VE was his actions from the vote being placed on him to his EoD so I was watching and trying to develop a better read on him. I was unsure about my read based on meta when I was so far off the last meta case I did and when I read SL I thought he was the best d1 lynch
Now it doesn't matter on him
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On November 24 2014 00:57 The_Templar wrote:sickluckerOK, I have a usable meta read on SL now that Campus mafia has finished, so now I'm re-evaluating what I think of him. As town, he was extremely confident in how town he was, and basically used that "fact" in order to make cases and form reads. He also pretty much ignored WIFOM to do this. + Show Spoiler +On November 07 2014 05:24 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2014 02:47 sicklucker wrote: I think sentinal would be a better lynch then ima. He was who I ment when I think there were better targets earlier. He seemed so active in this game before I entered but since I have been I think hes posted once or twice. Hes the likely leader for alot of the mafia teams as he seems more experienced.
I feel like he went mute because he was caught in a bad spot because of kelsiers high risk high reward play and he doesint think hes on the chopping block yet or has just given up.
I think its more likely imma is a bad town then sentinel is a bad town. Maybe someone whos played with him before can give us more ok I misread your message so disregard the second part. Actually the fact sentinel saved cricket from the vote is very town to me Because I know im town. Im gonna have to take another look at sentinel Sentinel where are you???! (Note: he replaced Cricketer12) On November 08 2014 04:01 sicklucker wrote: lol now that was an acual "slip" even tho im town are watcher or medic should come out On November 08 2014 05:03 sicklucker wrote: Im not a good lynch today . Right now in both your mind im just this solo arrogant bad guy but you cant peice together any logical team mates for me because im town. On November 11 2014 09:29 sicklucker wrote: I think if breskes or another longshot is mafia he wins even with 3 lynches. He will just leave serejai me and elvis as the towns and they will just off me.
Infact theres 0% chance I dont get mislynched if this game goes on and I know im town so we really only have 2 chances to hit mafia in this game from my perspective.
I think this next lynch is very important ff and this is not the auto win your making it out to be, but then again you dont belive im town so.. On November 11 2014 15:00 sicklucker wrote: So something we can go on is who do you think, would think that serejai is the medic? Because thats are last mafia. Im sure whoever was deciding who to block is are last one left since kush and sent didnt care about this game.
I know this is gonna get turned on me but im bringing it up anyway (because im town) but who do you think woulda thought serejai was the medic on day 2 and 3? Give a reason.
Im thinking he was targeted because he pushed me for something I said about the medic. The list goes on. He also defended himself by saying "I would never do X if I was mafia so I must be town" in various ways. So basically, he based the entire game on him being town and actually took action based on this. He also read players based on their actions based on their reads instead of commenting that these actions should be looked at by other people. So, his thoughts, however bad they might have been, were at least out there before he asked for opinions, at least when the people he was commenting on were talking about him in some way. Now, let's look at this game. + Show Spoiler +On November 21 2014 20:49 sicklucker wrote: Holy this is my first day one. Im giving my first reaction reads because im trying to help. Im sorry if there not up to your standards. Try to see that im trying with my inexperience I could lurk all day and no one would care. On November 22 2014 07:02 sicklucker wrote: The templars defense has stepped up some, I always sheep rayn its what I do im easily the newest player in the game. That being said his reads after his first 2 I liked really sucked. Sheep mode off On November 22 2014 08:36 sicklucker wrote: Glowingbears reason for voting me over his top scum (ve) is because he wants to get out a lurker. Ive had a slow start im not gonna make excuses but feel free to look at my filter in my other on going game. Im not a lurker I post ALOT probably too much. On November 22 2014 14:01 sicklucker wrote: FF why did you vote me anyway. I basically played the same this game if anyone here knows im a standard terrible town its you... On November 23 2014 07:44 sicklucker wrote: GB is a mafia in so many worlds. He voted for 3 towns or 2 if you dont believe me As you can see, his play has been completely different. He seems to suddenly not confirm he's town all the time, but instead keeps pulling the newbie card. Since he barely did this at all in Campus, it's very suspicious that he would suddenly lose all confidence in his town play as town. He did not re-evaluate for any of the first four after the previous game ended as those four posts were before Campus mafia LYLO was finished. So, my belief is that he has been playing completely differently than how he played in Campus at almost the same time, and is therefore a different alignment. Additionally, I agree with a lot of this case by Damdred, which is a decent scum read on SL. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jWzoBXI.png)
I def pulled the newbie card multiple times even in my lylo defense. Also from this game I learned that players especially the weaker ones like to use all of the above as reasons to mislynch me. So as those players liked to use against me and put their whole case on. MAN THATS WIFMO or whatever. I woulda got mislynch if rayn didnt enter the game, so ya im def changing my town play im not a scrub.
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On November 24 2014 02:38 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 24 2014 00:57 The_Templar wrote:sickluckerOK, I have a usable meta read on SL now that Campus mafia has finished, so now I'm re-evaluating what I think of him. As town, he was extremely confident in how town he was, and basically used that "fact" in order to make cases and form reads. He also pretty much ignored WIFOM to do this. + Show Spoiler +On November 07 2014 05:24 sicklucker wrote:Show nested quote +On November 07 2014 02:47 sicklucker wrote: I think sentinal would be a better lynch then ima. He was who I ment when I think there were better targets earlier. He seemed so active in this game before I entered but since I have been I think hes posted once or twice. Hes the likely leader for alot of the mafia teams as he seems more experienced.
I feel like he went mute because he was caught in a bad spot because of kelsiers high risk high reward play and he doesint think hes on the chopping block yet or has just given up.
I think its more likely imma is a bad town then sentinel is a bad town. Maybe someone whos played with him before can give us more ok I misread your message so disregard the second part. Actually the fact sentinel saved cricket from the vote is very town to me Because I know im town. Im gonna have to take another look at sentinel Sentinel where are you???! (Note: he replaced Cricketer12) On November 08 2014 04:01 sicklucker wrote: lol now that was an acual "slip" even tho im town are watcher or medic should come out On November 08 2014 05:03 sicklucker wrote: Im not a good lynch today . Right now in both your mind im just this solo arrogant bad guy but you cant peice together any logical team mates for me because im town. On November 11 2014 09:29 sicklucker wrote: I think if breskes or another longshot is mafia he wins even with 3 lynches. He will just leave serejai me and elvis as the towns and they will just off me.
Infact theres 0% chance I dont get mislynched if this game goes on and I know im town so we really only have 2 chances to hit mafia in this game from my perspective.
I think this next lynch is very important ff and this is not the auto win your making it out to be, but then again you dont belive im town so.. On November 11 2014 15:00 sicklucker wrote: So something we can go on is who do you think, would think that serejai is the medic? Because thats are last mafia. Im sure whoever was deciding who to block is are last one left since kush and sent didnt care about this game.
I know this is gonna get turned on me but im bringing it up anyway (because im town) but who do you think woulda thought serejai was the medic on day 2 and 3? Give a reason.
Im thinking he was targeted because he pushed me for something I said about the medic. The list goes on. He also defended himself by saying "I would never do X if I was mafia so I must be town" in various ways. So basically, he based the entire game on him being town and actually took action based on this. He also read players based on their actions based on their reads instead of commenting that these actions should be looked at by other people. So, his thoughts, however bad they might have been, were at least out there before he asked for opinions, at least when the people he was commenting on were talking about him in some way. Now, let's look at this game. + Show Spoiler +On November 21 2014 20:49 sicklucker wrote: Holy this is my first day one. Im giving my first reaction reads because im trying to help. Im sorry if there not up to your standards. Try to see that im trying with my inexperience I could lurk all day and no one would care. On November 22 2014 07:02 sicklucker wrote: The templars defense has stepped up some, I always sheep rayn its what I do im easily the newest player in the game. That being said his reads after his first 2 I liked really sucked. Sheep mode off On November 22 2014 08:36 sicklucker wrote: Glowingbears reason for voting me over his top scum (ve) is because he wants to get out a lurker. Ive had a slow start im not gonna make excuses but feel free to look at my filter in my other on going game. Im not a lurker I post ALOT probably too much. On November 22 2014 14:01 sicklucker wrote: FF why did you vote me anyway. I basically played the same this game if anyone here knows im a standard terrible town its you... On November 23 2014 07:44 sicklucker wrote: GB is a mafia in so many worlds. He voted for 3 towns or 2 if you dont believe me As you can see, his play has been completely different. He seems to suddenly not confirm he's town all the time, but instead keeps pulling the newbie card. Since he barely did this at all in Campus, it's very suspicious that he would suddenly lose all confidence in his town play as town. He did not re-evaluate for any of the first four after the previous game ended as those four posts were before Campus mafia LYLO was finished. So, my belief is that he has been playing completely differently than how he played in Campus at almost the same time, and is therefore a different alignment. Additionally, I agree with a lot of this case by Damdred, which is a decent scum read on SL. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/jWzoBXI.png) I def pulled the newbie card multiple times even in my lylo defense. Also from this game I learned that players especially the weaker ones like to use all of the above as reasons to mislynch me. So as those players liked to use against me and put their whole case on. MAN THATS WIFMO or whatever. I woulda got mislynch if rayn didnt enter the game, so ya im def changing my town play im not a scrub.
On November 12 2014 09:17 sicklucker wrote: I get what WIFOM is as a poker player thats pretty much all poker is. But in poker you solve WIFOM thats probably why you dont understand me
You know what wifom is already, pls don't
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Wow. Hours later, and everything this thread has got is a couple of posts. Boring.
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Really liancourtyboy, it took you 17 hours to decide on lynching me?
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