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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 23 2014 04:18 GMT
#1501
On November 23 2014 12:30 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2014 12:20 ritoky wrote:
On November 23 2014 11:34 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 23 2014 11:21 ritoky wrote:
On November 23 2014 11:14 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 23 2014 11:09 ritoky wrote:
On November 23 2014 10:57 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 23 2014 10:36 ritoky wrote:
On November 23 2014 09:57 GlowingBear wrote:
I can't explain myself anymore, and I'll do it one last time:

1) I thought killer SOS was scummy for coming to the thread when his name was brought up and never trying to at least interact with people.
2) I had scumreads on hopeless and VE but I decided I should keep them alive because I could reevaluate them better on day2. I'd rather lynch a scummy lurker than a scummy but informative player.
3) Someone I was leaning scum on lead the lynch on hopeless, which made me hesitate
4) It seems people are trying to shift the responsibility for lynching killer to me. Funny, I voted him 3 hour sbeidre deadline and I was really asleep. Also, there were people voting with me. Also, there were people online voting for other people, but they mostly wasted their votes.

By the way, I'm feeling the mafia agenda is to blame me and get me mislynched.

Think like this: why would I do such scummy action on day1? If I have perfect information, why would I assume hopeless is scum and vote for someone else? I could simply defend my scum partner, call him town, and lynch my target without drawing that much attention.


This is wrong in so many ways I can't even believe it, like it is basically gibberish to me. You don't seem to even understand the accusation.

Look at your hopeless read, look at your VE read; do you see them? Look how developed they are, look how much work is there, look at the nuance that is in them. Now look at your killer read: it is "lol afk, lol excuses"; it is shallow to the point of laughable. There wasn't much content there to work with, but the simple fact is the guy did NOTHING, like literal nothing, and you had actual scum reads; yet elected to vote on the dude doing nothing.

Then you vote on a wagon being LED by the person you just scum read in hopeless, who you also happen to refuse to vote on for no stated reason. Like in what world does this make any sense? I scum read you, but I won't vote on you for no reason, instead I will vote with you for no reason! I sincerely doubt you actually have a leaning scum read on HF, because the way you conversed with him made it seem like you knew he was town.

"why would i do such a scummy action day1 if perfect information?" Plain ass mafia statement. Every caught mafia says this stupid line. However I will humor you, why did LT attach himself to a crap read day 1 last game with perfect information? Because people make errors, do stupid crap, and get caught. I caught LT, and I caught you. Die scum.


Well, now that you say it, it was really bad that I voted with hopeless. You are right here. Not the best play.

You caught LT that game because he was obvious scum (or jester in my opinion, because he was looking too bad to be mafia). He WANTED to be caught, he wanted to be bussed so his partners would get credit.

I don't like you dismissing most of my arguments by just saying its gibberish.

This "mafia always says this shit" is bad, anything can be said by both alignments. You know that pretty well.

But now that you mention my read on VE: what do you think of it?


VE is spending too much time yelling at people and not enough time finding scum. He was okay at the start, then he got into pissing matches. But he voted on hopeless so he is town for now. If he keeps just yelling at people, I will move him out of town. So in a sense your read isn't entirely wrong; but he voted not on the blue but on the guy I wanted to lynch, so...

Not sure if VE updated his HF read (cuz he didn't say anything in the thread), but I am also surprised you are not pushing even harder on VE for this:

On November 22 2014 05:16 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I've even convinced lock-mafia Holyflare that I'm town Jesus Christ.


then he votes on the wagon HF is pushing for. Maybe he has the soul read on me as town jesus and is sheeping me, but the fact that you're not driving that point down your top scum read's throat is even more reason for me to believe you're not coming from a town perspective.


Uhm... I've pointed it out before.

VE isn't committed to the game either.

The problem here is that you're assuming I knew killer was town; even more, you're assuming I knew he was blue. Even scum couldn't know that.

You're also admitting hopeless is scum instead of bad town. You agree with me that VE looks scummy but you townread by simply having unflipped association and not considering he could have bussed IF hopeless is really scum.


??? I voted to lynch hopeless of course i think he is mafia???

and there's a diff btwn pointing it out and forcing the issue. if you really were in deep on that read you would force the issue. and i think you're mafia so of course i think you knew killer was town and hopeless was mafia?


Question: when did you really decided I was mafia?


i have a 4 page filter, it's not that hard to comb through. but i guess i can do your own work for you: like you're not willing to find it yourself or push your VE read? what are you willing to do?

On November 22 2014 18:52 ritoky wrote:
On November 22 2014 18:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If you are town hf i suggest you try to work with me and ve instead of what you've done.
I have ~6 hours to only focus on this after i've eaten and got a laptop so let's find mafia then okay?

Not call each other dumb, scumhunt.
Deal?


did you see the part where VE voted on hopeless? appears you're the one on a different page.

hopeless is mafia. i agree with HF on GB, like he agreed with the read; i mean even went into detail on the level to which he agreed and still refused to vote on hopeless...because??????????? because the guy was afk and not playing the game????? like what the fuck. i am even tempted to lynch GB in front of hopeless for that shit.


man that was tough to find!!!! owait


Lol ritoky. You could've think I was scummy before the lynch but still not mention it in the thread. Your stance against me, and this post of yours in particular feels so forced.

I'm re reading the game to have a better grasp of my reads, although I think I may die tonight without been able to post them.

This is what I'm saying: you're reading me as scum ONLY because killer was town. You repeatedly say that we lynched our blue, implying people knew that. This is forced.

You have a scum read on hopeless. I don't wish to vote him day1. Therefore, I'm his partner.

Logic fails.

Who else is scum, ritoky? I'm partner with hopeless. Two more guys.


you can't read me if you think that's forced.

reading you as scum has less to do with killer being town and EVERYTHING to do with you REFUSING TO VOTE ON YOUR SCUM READ, SWITCHING TO A NULL READ WHO IS AFK, AND INSTEAD VOTE WITH YOUR SCUM READ. can't make this any more clear to you. and saying he is blue is because he is blue, would you rather i say "you lynched a townie who happened to flip blue"? cuz i can if that tickles your fancy better.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 23 2014 04:21 GMT
#1502
On November 23 2014 13:10 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2014 10:36 ritoky wrote:
On November 23 2014 08:57 The_Templar wrote:
On November 23 2014 07:37 ritoky wrote:
On November 23 2014 07:33 The_Templar wrote:
On November 23 2014 07:31 ritoky wrote:
so i started reading the last few pages and then i stopped when another pissing match was starting....has damdred actually tried to find scum yet this game? all i remember is him being defensive every single time his name comes up.

He made a good case on SL


where is it? all i see is some half assed post about how he backed down on his reads under pressure; the same sort of crap that caused you idiots to lynch a blue.

i pretty much want to lynch GB over everyone right now though. like...by a mile.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/471226-vi-titanic-mini-mafia-the-return-of-mspaint?page=58#1141


i don't think this is a good case at all. flimsy at best.


You were also having a scumread on sick lucker earlier, if I'm correct. What changed?


i did? where?

i just looked for it and found my "i don't understand what this guy is doing, but he reads me town" post, and then a post where i am summarizing someone else's read on him; don't see it.

and what changed is you did the single most scummy shit in the entire game and now i want to lynch you beyond a shadow of a doubt.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 23 2014 04:27 GMT
#1503
Lol I can't explain mysf anymore.
Why are you ignoring what ive brought from VE?

Well, if you're going to vote me, you'll be lynching a townie or simply wasting your vote.
I'm adorable.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 23 2014 04:34 GMT
#1504
I like how thread sentiment is a pissing contest rather than finding scum
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 23 2014 04:38 GMT
#1505
Ok town, ok going to sleep. In case I die:
Lynch VE
Lynch FF
Lynch Hopeless, maybe (I don't know, I feel he is scummy but there is something making me hesitant to lynch him. Maybe it's because one scumread of mine [VE] was pushing him since the beginning)

Take a look at: Rayn, sick lucker, Ritoky

Constantly reevaluate HF. See if he is having double standards. If yes, he might be mafia. But he looks townie until now.

Good night.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 23 2014 04:39 GMT
#1506
On November 23 2014 13:34 liancourt wrote:
I like how thread sentiment is a pissing contest rather than finding scum


I like how you're ignoring my case on VE and not playing the game.
I'm constantly forgetting you're playing. You look like a good lynch too as for now
I'm adorable.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 23 2014 04:41 GMT
#1507
On November 23 2014 13:39 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2014 13:34 liancourt wrote:
I like how thread sentiment is a pissing contest rather than finding scum


I like how you're ignoring my case on VE and not playing the game.
I'm constantly forgetting you're playing. You look like a good lynch too as for now

Agree with this.
Liancourtyboy has had about 6000 opportunities to do something other than what he did day 1 (which was basically throw scum accusations at me until I ran out of funny things to reply with). He took none of them.
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GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 23 2014 04:44 GMT
#1508
On November 23 2014 13:41 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2014 13:39 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 23 2014 13:34 liancourt wrote:
I like how thread sentiment is a pissing contest rather than finding scum


I like how you're ignoring my case on VE and not playing the game.
I'm constantly forgetting you're playing. You look like a good lynch too as for now

Agree with this.
Liancourtyboy has had about 6000 opportunities to do something other than what he did day 1 (which was basically throw scum accusations at me until I ran out of funny things to reply with). He took none of them.


It bothers me that you are reading the whole discussion with ritoky, probably passed by my VE case, but just commented on this, not following up the question you've made me.
I'm adorable.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 23 2014 04:50 GMT
#1509
On November 23 2014 13:44 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 23 2014 13:41 The_Templar wrote:
On November 23 2014 13:39 GlowingBear wrote:
On November 23 2014 13:34 liancourt wrote:
I like how thread sentiment is a pissing contest rather than finding scum


I like how you're ignoring my case on VE and not playing the game.
I'm constantly forgetting you're playing. You look like a good lynch too as for now

Agree with this.
Liancourtyboy has had about 6000 opportunities to do something other than what he did day 1 (which was basically throw scum accusations at me until I ran out of funny things to reply with). He took none of them.


It bothers me that you are reading the whole discussion with ritoky, probably passed by my VE case, but just commented on this, not following up the question you've made me.

I have read it as it's transpired but not analyzed it, I will be working on it at some point tomorrow if I survive the night as I believe it is fairly important.
My opinion on Liancourtyboy was going to be in response to him but you got there first.
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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 23 2014 04:50 GMT
#1510
Exactly temps scum he only comes in when it benefits him
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 23 2014 04:51 GMT
#1511
On November 23 2014 13:50 liancourt wrote:
Exactly temps scum he only comes in when it benefits him

just like you!
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liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 23 2014 04:56 GMT
#1512
I come in when i want

and i saw 2 egos having a who has the biggest dick contest

Why did u come in? Just to play with me cos u have a hardon LOL
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 23 2014 04:57 GMT
#1513
On November 23 2014 13:56 liancourt wrote:
I come in when i want

and i saw 2 egos having a who has the biggest dick contest

Why did u come in? Just to play with me cos u have a hardon LOL


Well, I sure have it.
I'm adorable.
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 23 2014 04:59 GMT
#1514
Ok, in case I die, take a look at Templar too.
I feel he is coming from a town perspective but he has some weird traits:

1) he is too passive, as pointed out by other players, specially rayn
2) I've just played a game of 1 hours with him where I was mafia and he read me as town. It bothers me that he isn't hesitating into reading me as town now (he seems to believe I'm town since my opening)
3) he (and VE) were incisive when I "breadcrumbed" being a vigi (I said I was sure liancourt was going to die tonight on purpose, to look like I was breadcrumbing being a vigi, and this way I take the shot, as I'm self aware that I'm not one of the most insightful players right now and I'm may not be because I'm having a busy month). When they saw it, they started to ask questions, which felt they were looking for blues, instead of just shutting up.

That's it. Kthxbai
I'm adorable.
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 23 2014 05:00 GMT
#1515
Standby
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
November 23 2014 05:19 GMT
#1516
Day 2

I didn't have access to my number prompt today unfortunately. My apologies for the delay.

[image loading]

There are 11 players remaining. You have to vote. You have to post another paint pic other than your vote.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
November 23 2014 05:21 GMT
#1517
[image loading]
GlowingBear
Profile Joined May 2014
Brazil12446 Posts
November 23 2014 05:21 GMT
#1518
Lol ritoky.
There you are.
I'm adorable.
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
November 23 2014 05:23 GMT
#1519
Wtf did medic do?

lynch temp
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
November 23 2014 05:24 GMT
#1520
On November 23 2014 14:23 liancourt wrote:
Wtf did medic do?

lynch temp

Apparently, the medic did not heal one of those two players.
Got anything to say besides the same thing for the 30th time?
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