On November 20 2014 18:08 The_Templar wrote:I woke up and read the thread but I'm so confused now. I see your scum reads but I actually do not understand why anyone looks scummy at all for the first three hours. Pretty much entirely neutral reads save maybe one or two in that time period, maybe I should read it again.
Pre-post edit: I read the last few pages in reverse order and it mostly made sense. Hmm. This post is being made using information up to
this post.VE looks suspicious to me. Disclaimer: I am a terrible player
On November 20 2014 17:32 VisceraEyes wrote:
Holyflare knows that me being sure of my reads doesn't make me scum. He knows this. I can't fathom why he'd call me scummy if he's town. I literally can't.
Because, in some games of mafia, people use slightly different logic and games turn out differently than others! Woah!
On November 20 2014 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like I get Fecal's little "trap" and that's just whatever. I have no defense to that. But Holyflare is saying that me being sure of my reads at this point in the game is scum indicative, and that's just absolutely false. I'm ALWAYS sure of my reads early on, because A) I feel like I have strong early reads and B) I represent strong early reads as both alignments. The reason I do this is because as town when you represent strong reads, it puts your targets under pressure. I put Hopeless under so much pressure that he overreacted, which rito commented on and I think HF mentioned himself. As mafia I do it because that's what I do as town so I have to look like I'm town.
Holyflare knows this, and he knows it doesn't make me mafia. That's the confusing thing to me - he's calling me mafia here based on this alone, when I AGREE WITH HIS ONLY OTHER MAFIA READ.
Here's my prediction. Holyflare is going to convince everyone else to lynch Hopeless and he's going to flip mafia and then Holyflare is going to lead town to a loss. Just like every other game that Holyflare is mafia. But remember this:
I'm voting for no one but Holyflare for the rest of this cycle.
I think this is a terrible mindset! There are 44 hours left in the day and you believe solved part of the game with certainty? Well, I would not give up your vote this soon in the day. It makes you look really weird in my eyes because you're only doing it to make your point that you believe that Holyflare is scummy... which you've already established pretty well. Should he show himself to be towny later on, you'd feel silly.
So are you going to continue pressure on Hopeless or do you think he's made enough mistakes to look mafia until you vote him off?
On November 20 2014 17:51 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 20 2014 17:49 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm not you, I don't 100% commit to my reads that easily
I'm not 100% committed to my read. LMAO
On November 20 2014 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm voting for no one but Holyflare for the rest of this cycle.
Which of these is the lie? Also
On November 20 2014 16:43 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not even dealing in absolutes.
On November 20 2014 16:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 20 2014 16:38 Alakaslam wrote:
VE what about hopeless1der
He's probably still mafia. But HF first. Because he's a danger to town. Hopeless is just a danger of being annoyingly defensive. HF will lead you into oblivion.
On November 20 2014 17:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Here's my prediction. Holyflare is going to convince everyone else to lynch Hopeless and he's going to flip mafia and then Holyflare is going to lead town to a loss. Just like every other game that Holyflare is mafia. But remember this:
I know that these posts are an hour apart, but I don't think you can say someone is probably mafia but predict they will flip town.
On November 20 2014 15:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Chez drew a picture of me <3
Chez top town FOR LIFE!!!!!!
This is a useless post, but it's OK because you 'contributed' and didn't start out with filler.
On November 20 2014 16:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Post 100 in this quicktopic proves that Hopeless CAN NOT think I'm mafia here for thinking he's mafia because he's seen me play this game THIS WAY RECENTLY. It's true that the circumstances are a little different, I had replaced into that game and there was a lot of stuff to draw from in the thread - the salient point though is that I found a mafia for what may SEEM to be shaky reasoning IMMEDIATELY and pushed on it hard against one of the louder voices in the thread. IMMEDIATELY.
He knows this is how I play as town, and now he would have you believe that he thinks I'm mafia. Don't believe his lies.
I don't play metagame mafia (because I can't) but I'm interested in how definitive this post sounds.
Anyway I don't have time right now for the rest of you because the Hot6ix cup is on, but I just found it interesting how much VE has dominated the thread while being... inconsistent.
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