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Breshke He had plenty of time to change his vote as for Immaterial if we think elvis and bat are scum just because they didnt vote for him does not mean hes scum with them. The reason they didnt vote for him is because that would give him 5 votes and the cop wouldnt die hes null for me. Well if im dead on my first night at least you know why. | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:02 Elvis! wrote: sicklucker your post isn't really making much sense, I didn't change my vote a lot at all. Your right I made a mistake thought both you and bats changed your votes to Serejai after KelsierSC shenanigans. Your off my scum list im taking in alot of info in a short time my bad. | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:30 Fecalfeast wrote: Since all of us are misspelling it, I looked up how to actually spell rescind. http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/rescind ya ty thats why I used unclaimed in my second post =] | ||
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On November 05 2014 08:45 Breshke wrote: Holy shit i thought it was a tracker role not watcher. My vote was terrible holy shit. Ya thats why my first post 2 minutes into the game was to scum read you. | ||
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KelsierSC is the only other guy id say is town this early for reasons ive already said but im leaning town on Fecalfeast too. | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:01 Superbia wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Immaterial also After rereading the madness im gonna say superbia is town because hes the only one who correctly changed there vote besides that crazy KelsierSC | ||
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Every night, you may choose a player other than yourself to watch. You will learn the names of every player that visits your target the same night. You win with the town. So all the town has to do is keep checking him and when hes role blocked or killed we know who it is and we get a 1 for 1 trade (they cant leave a confirmed cop in the game) no matter what unless they fake claim cop or something crazy. This is my first mafia game and I noticed this so im sure everyone has figured it out I know Breshke already said the same thing indirectly about his horrible vote. Anyway move on. Think im gonna head to bed | ||
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On November 05 2014 13:15 Breshke wrote: I agree 100% with sicklucker. I find the way sicklucker has enterd the game has been very good. I think if he was mafia coming into this game he wouldn't be so quick to give reads like this Sicklucker how many mafia do you think are in the final votes on LS? I think theres 3 mafia in the 4 who voted + bats. I include bats because if he changed his vote at the last second to Immaterial instead of Serejai then lightning would have survived because Immaterial would of been voted off which would have been alot better then are likely cop. I think the best strategy is to vote out 2 or 3 of them if we hit scum keep going(it will tell us if we hit one right?). If not reevaluate. | ||
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I feel like theres experienced players in the mafia who are often targeting us stupid newb players blatantly. | ||
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On November 05 2014 23:03 batsnacks wrote: I am so worried that both KSC and jasmine are town. Like genuinely scared. I feel like if they are town thats good for us and we have a higher chance of winning. There is a world where they made some crazy play to get the cop out that turn because there was a 50% chance theres a watcher if they believed he was a cop. But the way it went down I think its very very unlikely. If we dont find scum in a few days maybe you go for keisha but for now I think the higher percentage play is to vote from the people who voted out LS. I do have you as scum but from the people I listed your probably at the bottom because you at least moved your vote (although poorly) and made an excuse I dont totally believe. I would not vote you out tomorrow over quite a few others. | ||
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On November 06 2014 00:39 KelsierSC wrote: Does anyone have a weird view on grak or is he town for everyone? I called him my top town earlier from reading the tread and the way he voted if you didnt catch that | ||
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I dont think that was a slip but THATS SO SCUMMY why would town ever out are doctor incase no one esle noticed | ||
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Anyway elvis heres where im at with you. Im trying so hard to see you as town but you seem to be aligning yourself with more scummy people then townie. Grack got whacked and he had very similar ideas of who to lynch as me. He also has kesh as town if im not mistaken so that would be a terrible lynch this early on. ##Vote Immaterial I think hes a good lynch there might be one or two better but this seems to be where its going | ||
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On November 06 2014 11:47 Fecalfeast wrote: Can you expand on your reason to call kelly town? There have been multiple reasons stated as to why there's a reason to do the high risk play, even if it's not foolproof. Ive been a little skeptical but im leaning town. Even if I knew 100% he was scum I would vote him out later and leave him in to figure out his team. I think its far more productive short term to kill one of the people who voted LS if kelsier is town theres a very high chance 2 or more of them are scum. If we vote kelsier and hit im pretty clueless who his team is atm but not if we hit say you, Immaterial, bats or sentinel I have you 4 as the likely scum team right now. | ||
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Im completely clueless on kush and their relationship I only read the first 30 pages once threw when I was told id be replacing for this in an hour and he has not said one word since ive been active. Ill have to reread it all slower then before before this day is over. | ||
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I feel like he went mute because he was caught in a bad spot because of kelsiers high risk high reward play and he doesint think hes on the chopping block yet or has just given up. I think its more likely imma is a bad town then sentinel is a bad town. Maybe someone whos played with him before can give us more | ||
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If sentinels mafia there is pretty much a 0% chance im mafia I hope this clears that up. | ||
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On November 07 2014 02:47 sicklucker wrote: I think sentinal would be a better lynch then ima. He was who I ment when I think there were better targets earlier. He seemed so active in this game before I entered but since I have been I think hes posted once or twice. Hes the likely leader for alot of the mafia teams as he seems more experienced. I feel like he went mute because he was caught in a bad spot because of kelsiers high risk high reward play and he doesint think hes on the chopping block yet or has just given up. I think its more likely imma is a bad town then sentinel is a bad town. Maybe someone whos played with him before can give us more ok I misread your message so disregard the second part. Actually the fact sentinel saved cricket from the vote is very town to me Because I know im town. Im gonna have to take another look at sentinel Sentinel where are you???! | ||
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And sorry for being a terrible town and confusing everyone this is my final thought on that ##unvote ##vote [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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On November 07 2014 05:49 Superbia wrote: I'm all for lynching Sentinel, but that is a dumb reason. Mod kills are the last thing that can be relied on. Also there will always be a warning first. Why did you think Immaterial was a good lynch early today, btw? I felt like it was going to be hard to lynch other people in my scum list but because imma got so many votes I felt like he was the easiest one. I felt like we had some towns that were really off focus like elvis who are pushing other towns so I wanted the easy scum vote. when i voted imma I believe my words were "there one or two people id rather lynch over imma but I believe hes a good lynch" The person I was talking about was sentinel. I was kinda surprised people want to vote sentinel so im jumping on that. I think the main reason im surprised is because I was not here day 1 and sentinel is not here day 2... He has like completely checked out. Reasons are his votes his alignments and his inactivity like hes given up or trying to fly under the radar like hes a role. That last part was just more fuel on the fire. | ||
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On November 06 2014 14:13 Breshke wrote: Okay i thought you were trying to write kush. I know it doesnt mean mentioning but then i don't get this. Rereading this actually you did say if not we should but idk i don't like this. Ya ok I just read it thanks for that filter tip I did not know about it before makes things easier. Going into this I was told hes a very helpful town but a horrible mafia. I dont know about all that so i just go on what people I have town reads on tell me but as an unbiased person this is what I think from the little information hes given us. He comes off to me when he actually seems serious as townie to me. He hard defended not lynching the cop to you off all people. On November 05 2014 07:05 kushm4sta wrote: i dont get your reasoning here. he can be proved by a flip or a claim. Very possibly that would have happened before lylo but if it didn't so what. We would still have confirmed scum/town at lylo. I think your missing this fact he also voted sentinel really fast I highly doubt they are aligned. If sentinels misslynched it makes a little bit of sense to look at him but hes leaning town for me right now and would be a horrible lynch atm. | ||
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On November 07 2014 06:13 Superbia wrote: Walk me through your thought process. Immaterial puts down a vote on LS early on and then fucks off for the rest of the day. Is it scummy at that point in time as well, or is it only scummy because LS flipped green (cop)? Why did you feel the need to put down a vote so early? I think imma voting earlier is more a tell of his inexperience. Same goes for me I probably voted too soon. Im trying to sway the vote in the direction I feel helps us win the game but unlike imma i am not gonna afk and leave my vote the same if It doesint make much sense. | ||
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On October 31 2014 03:40 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: The last Resistance game was horrible too. Although that might be because everyone thought I was confirmed scum and pretty much beat me into submission while I was travelling through the service-less mountains of New Hampshire and couldn't defend myself without losing like 10% batter per post. I found this interesting and im bring this up even tho I have him voted because this is basically whats happening now But he also goes on to talk about how he should have more time in his next post. | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:12 Breshke wrote: Why would mafia ever kill him they would just roleblock him and leave him alive. People would always be unsure on him there would always be the world where there is a watcher and a medic or where there was another cop not wanting to claim yet. Going forward I didn't think he would be necessary as he is useless until we killed the roleblocker and i was confident in that happening. It was wrong though i should have changed my vote i was bullheaded though and was sure he was just trying to save himself as mafia. Also are you going to actually start helping town now or what? After the vote you later admitted your vote was horrible On November 05 2014 08:45 Breshke wrote: Holy shit i thought it was a tracker role not watcher. My vote was terrible holy shit. I dont think this means alot but I dont like your answer trying to deflect it on me. Since were talking about people being afk how has bats not been mention when someone who posted alot like elvis was? Hes literraly tunneled on KelsierSC voted him and afked. I get that he thinks hes scumy but he has not even contributed anything out of that I think we should consider him. BAT I WANT YOUR TOWN/SCUM READS | ||
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On November 04 2014 08:09 Grackaroni wrote: Kush is kind of tricky. I had some reasons at the start to lean town on him but if he continues to do nothing I'll re-evaluate. He's really bad at playing scum but sometimes he just does nothing as town too. I thought this was interesting "sometimes he does nothing as town too" | ||
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because you used another quote to put scum on me and this says the opposite could be true. Dont get me wrong kush is on my extended lynch list above you. He has contributed nothing. I just dont think hes leaned one way or another hes null for me after just going through gracks filter who seems to be the only one who had much of a read on him. | ||
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We need people to not make stupid side votes like elvis is doing right now that have no chance of going through. Its too easy of a way for mafia to keep there hands clean. We should agree that if someone votes outside of are two candidates we should lynch them so we get enough information as possible. This next vote is important | ||
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But I feel like im just finding maybe mafias Im having a real hard time finding anyone I see who are very likely mafia which might just mean its the obvious people. | ||
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On November 07 2014 10:46 Serejai wrote: Pretty sure the rules state you cannot vote for yourself. im 100% sure because I read them for the first time 2 days ago | ||
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"Thinks very highly of himself since he posts multiple times that he is the one that should be NK." Ya i thought I was gonna get nk because I got town reads from everyone but you who gave their read. | ||
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I got confused on this. I changed my train of thought twice. At first I came up with a line of thought. then I retracted It I thought I had it reversed. Then last I said nope my first one was correct. breshke agreed with my first post not my second or third so are logic was both right but I can see why your confused. My next post after that was something like "lol im a horrible town" Which very well maybe true because I confused the shit out of you. I think its funny you think me and Breshke are aligned we just went back and forth for the last 4 hours disagreeing with each other and if you click on my filter read my first post. | ||
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wow I got 3 votes? me and elvis the two newb towns might have just lost us the game boys | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:07 sicklucker wrote: Hey guys ill make a bigger post later still catching up on the thread but Breshke seemed like my top scum for not changing his vote and for what he said there the rest seemed afk. This is my first post... I just agreed with bats reads on players other then one 20 minutes after I called him scum. Then he calls me sort of townie. Then 30 minutes later he votes me for almost no reason. I still agree with his reads. Just because me and breske agree with each others reads does not mean we both think each other are town or are aligned . This is why im having a hard time taking you seriously elvis your just attacking people for the wrong reasons If someone didnt just say this is how you played last game as town I would probably want as my top lynch | ||
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On November 07 2014 12:05 Elvis! wrote: "Anyway elvis heres where im at with you. Im trying so hard to see you as town but you seem to be aligning yourself with more scummy people then townie." So I'm scummy for aligning with people but I can't apply that to others? No thats a valid point but you need more then one point to make a case. Putting that aside I honestly dont see how you see me with Serejai or breska. Ksc I get how you can see im aligned with him I defended him early and said he was a bad lynch early. But ive also spent alot of time setting him up and one of the two potential lynches. So my relations -breska - we Disagree some agree some I think we both have eaxh other leaning town right now. But WITH MY VERY FIRST POST I attack him and have also more recently said hes on the far end of my chopping block because of how he voted -serejai Hes null for me I think hes called me town im not sure because I confuse him with Superbia sometimes thats how little interaction I feel we have had this game so far. ksc- I just suggested we vote between two people ksc and one other that we agree on. I DONT SEE HOW IM IN A MAFIA TEAM WITH THESE PEOPLE | ||
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Almost all of it is just me and breska asking qeustions to each other THATS WHAT YOU DO AS TOWN NOT MAKE 1000 WORD ESSAYS I agree breskas insane amount of questioning directed to me is weird and hes trying to push an agenda on kush. He could be trying to pocket me but he is probably just trying to read me. | ||
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I want to talk about other things. Elvis can we live in a world for the next twenty minutes where we are both town? I know I can but im not sure you can | ||
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On November 07 2014 12:55 Elvis! wrote: If you don't wanna talk about this and answer my questions I think we have 100% found scum here. Town doesn't need to not answer questions, there is no valid reason not to if you're town, since there's nothing to hide. This is a valid reason If I think its not productive to town winning the game even if it gets me lynched. | ||
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On November 07 2014 13:02 Fecalfeast wrote: Assuming you are town, how does getting lynched help town more than spending some time answering questions? Dont get me wrong I dont want to be lynched I just feel this guy is unconvincable | ||
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The reason why I was so hard on you was because you were tunneling on one player that 0 other people wanted to vote on instead of being productive and now your doing that to me. | ||
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On November 07 2014 13:12 Breshke wrote: I just want to point out that kush came back to the thread and admitted he isn't even reading? Why arn't more people other than me and bats voting him? because hes a better town then elvis =] | ||
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The only other excuse you used is "doctor slip" people have made leaps and assumptions on what the setup is many times im no different.At the time there was a 2 in 3 chance there was doctor and yes I was trying to get a safe on me I got town read 6 times and 0 scum reads on night 1. I think elvis hit on one of his two wild assumptions I think hes trying to deflect scum because im a vannila town and hes being group as a scum team with me. Lets go into serejais perspective. Hes town elvis tunnels him all game gives him a almost confirmed scum read (80%). Then elvis goes and does the same to me puts us in a scum team. His natural town assumption should be that elvis is off on his reads or scummy. But what he does is try to suckup to elvis to get him to read him as town and bury his fake partner with almost no reason. This man is my top scum and one of the other votes is probably his partner so thats why hes pushing someone else | ||
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On November 07 2014 22:58 Serejai wrote: Why would I waste my vote on Immaterial if a) Nobody else is willing to vote for him, b) I've already made my case against him and the only person that was willing to vote with me was Grack, and c) He may get modkilled anyway It's a wasted vote at this point of time and if other people aren't concerned about him yet after what me and Grack posted then I just don't see it happening. At the moment I would take sicklucker over kush because of that scumslip he made earlier in regards to there being a medic, and thus far he hasn't defended himself yet even though he's posted thousands of words since. Ok if im right about serejai his scum partner would be kush we can get him next week ##vote kushm4sta | ||
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On November 05 2014 03:32 Serejai wrote: ##unvote ##vote Cricketer12 On November 05 2014 03:33 Serejai wrote: I don't actually think Cricketer12 is mafia but I know I'm town and he's the only person I can throw my vote to at the moment. another reason why im not in a scum team with serjai if that isint already obvious for elvis. So elvis I think its safe to say your wrong on one of us and have to completely reevaluate your game. I think at the end of this game we might be talking about how your crazy assumption on me set up a nice trap tho =] | ||
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On November 08 2014 01:34 Serejai wrote: lol this game Can you add anything here like defend how you using the same stupid reason we buried are cop on me but even weaker | ||
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On November 05 2014 05:18 LightningStrike wrote: Fine I will tell you my role since I going to get lynched anyway I am a Town Detective so if you lynch me oh well gl finding them without direct help. If it wasn't in the OP, how would you have known which power you had?[/QUOTE] Other than my experience in SC2 Mafia some cops are called Detectives in real life and if I was Town Watcher he would of told Town Watcher not Detective/Cop[/QUOTE] I'm not saying you're scum... but everything you say is so wrong. As I stated earlier, Cop and Detective are two completely different roles in SC2 mafia. You claiming that you though they were the same in this game because of SC2 Mafia makes no sense at all because they are two different roles there. Why would you assume they were the same role here based on that?[/QUOTE] | ||
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On November 07 2014 10:59 sicklucker wrote: And the reason I kept sayin it was at the time I thought I would be a great medic save. Now not so much but I started strong! this is his entire reason for voting me btw its very weak | ||
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On November 05 2014 13:07 sicklucker wrote: elvis drop this its not productive and your not gonna convince anyone because your going against the logic of thousands of mafia games. Theres also this. Theres a 66% chance that there is a town watcher in the game heres a description of this role Every night, you may choose a player other than yourself to watch. You will learn the names of every player that visits your target the same night. You win with the town. So all the town has to do is keep checking him and when hes role blocked or killed we know who it is and we get a 1 for 1 trade (they cant leave a confirmed cop in the game) no matter what unless they fake claim cop or something crazy. This is my first mafia game and I noticed this so im sure everyone has figured it out I know Breshke already said the same thing indirectly about his horrible vote. Anyway move on. Think im gonna head to bed Hes proof that I been considering the roles since the very beginning | ||
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On November 08 2014 00:59 sicklucker wrote: Serejai I think your caught insanely bandwagoning here on me. Your the last person I expect to believe elvis so you cant even count that as a reason to vote for me unless your trying to deflect scum because he has us together . Elvis has you listed as 80% scum and me 95% scum THOSE ARE INSANE ASSUMPTIONS at least not you if your town because he tunneled you so hard and now hes doing it to me. The most I have on anyone is 50%. The only other excuse you used is "doctor slip" people have made leaps and assumptions on what the setup is many times im no different.At the time there was a 2 in 3 chance there was doctor and yes I was trying to get a safe on me I got town read 6 times and 0 scum reads on night 1. I think elvis hit on one of his two wild assumptions I think hes trying to deflect scum because im a vannila town and hes being group as a scum team with me. Lets go into serejais perspective. Hes town elvis tunnels him all game gives him a almost confirmed scum read (80%). Then elvis goes and does the same to me puts us in a scum team. His natural town assumption should be that elvis is off on his reads or scummy. But what he does is try to suckup to elvis to get him to read him as town and bury his fake partner with almost no reason. This man is my top scum and one of the other votes is probably his partner so thats why hes pushing someone else what about this post sentinel? I feel like this is very damning evidence. I feel like in the case where were put on a scum team by a town that no one really gives much credit. I feel the one who attacks the other is the most likely scum. From my pov and what you see as me being defensive is that the first person to put scum on the other is very scummy because were not Aligned but only a scum would push scum on another bad read when he also gets the same bad read. | ||
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On November 08 2014 03:20 Serejai wrote: Easy question, sicklucker; Why don't you want to be lynched? Please answer this in ten words or less. No mafia team makes alot of sense with me in it | ||
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On November 08 2014 03:55 Superbia wrote: Why did you claim Serejai?  You were never going to get lynched today.He didnt claim | ||
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On November 08 2014 04:41 Serejai wrote: Second scumslip of the day, while simultaneously asking the doctor to claim? You really can't get more scum than this. I watch too much allstar mafia where they use a medic everygame its drilled in my head. | ||
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Serejai You were always allin on me because your scum and the vote was going the way of your team. | ||
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On November 08 2014 05:04 Superbia wrote: Your logic on kush is correct (except for the PR thing, lazy town is a thing, lurker town is a thing). Your vote for today is wrong. I understand the passion behind the gigantic post you made on him, but he's not the target for today. Stop wasting effort half my posts have been me trying to convince him to vote logicly and not tunnel on Serejai then he tunnels onto me and does the same thing. And then serejai jumped on that wagon and he we are. Hes so bad I really hope he is mafia at this point | ||
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On November 08 2014 05:17 Breshke wrote: I just woke up and its like 6:30am i can't logically think this right now. Superbias. hard defense after doing nothing all day is weird though. I didnt like some of his reads he was my top town before his post. Im still pretty ride or die with him tho because if hes mafia in my mine mafia has already won. I think kush is like 60%+ mafia ksc probably under 40 but there both not bad lynches ill just go with the flow | ||
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On November 08 2014 05:17 Elvis! wrote: sicklucker I called both numbers at the same time and I'm not reading jasmine town yet. If you wanna read this game you can see my play not being influenced by his at all. Ya theres no world where you and jasmine are mafia together. I never said you were | ||
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On November 08 2014 05:24 Serejai wrote: And you people voting for kush... what the hell? Kelsier or sicklucker. still hard defending kush hes gotta go. | ||
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On November 08 2014 05:31 Superbia wrote: If you're town, please just consider the future regarding the game with regards to Kelsier. Consider what happens when we miss today outside of Kelsier and Kelsier ends up flipping town. Game is pretty much straight up lost. I don't know what else I can say to convince you guys. I think if we miss in general we lost. But changing to kelsier is the only other vote id consider at this time because of your logic. But I really think I have to go with my gut here lets try to piece likely ksc teams together for now. I think sentinels gotta top that list for afk voting kush. Pretty much anyone whos afk voting kush right now | ||
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2 of Breshke, batsnacks, FecalFeast sentinel. You can add me in there too but me bringing this up hopefully leads you away from me. srejai seriously its called looking at both sides of the picture not tunneling man you and elvis are the worst towns if you are. | ||
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On November 08 2014 05:54 Elvis! wrote: sicklucker is the oprah winfrey of this game. You are mafia! You are mafia! Everybody is mafia! ITS CALLED TRYING TO PEICE THE PUZZLE TOGETHER | ||
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Sent serejai ff +1 leaning bats The fact kelsiers team has all afked at basicly the same time is very suspicious But the way serejai is so distributive to us taking out one of kush or kelsier is very alarming also Whats your thoughts? | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:16 Fecalfeast wrote: Kush are you gonna do any reading or filter diving or will you continue to adhere to your scum meta? Yeah there was a big storm in maine but you're still useless. Sicklucker do you have reasons for any of your reads? Like quotes and stuff? I'm a donkey for sure but I can't sheep associative reads, sorry. Kelly why afk? Why not try to bleed town when people want to kill you? Ive posted alot of reads specifically on the kush team. If there not a team then the only other logical team to me is with ksc and I put his team mates by association votes and interaction. I cant really explain it all in 45 minutes but it wont matter untill tormorow | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:14 Serejai wrote: I would have thoughts if I could figure out what you were trying to type, but nothing you post makes any sense. Here you go again claiming two separate scum teams and then asking for thoughts, but you fail to explain why you have these scum teams in the first place. Also, what am I distributing? your like quoting me everytime I have a spelling error its insane I mis posted read the post after this one | ||
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plz take your vote off me and put it on either kush or kelsier. Voting on me when im not going to get voted out does not help solve the game. PLZ HELP US SOLVE THE GAME | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:26 Fecalfeast wrote: sicklucker can I ask why on earth the medic would claim today, even if there was a guaranteed medic? This is my biggest red flag on you, constantly blue hunting I think that was a newbie mistake saying that but I still think its a good idea (not if its a watcher). I feel like having one confirmed town would solve the game in my mind | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:35 Serejai wrote: Yes... because asking our power role to expose themselves so they can die tonight for no reason at all is a very town thing to do. Your right im probably wrong people need to judge me on my effort here this is my first game and you guys are playing worse then me. | ||
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HOW IS THIS NOT PRODUCTIVE YOUR ABOUT TO LYNCH ME AND LOSE THE GAME. I want people whos qeustions I respect at this point and not people believing there rambles. | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:48 Fecalfeast wrote: You're naive if you think you are the keystone to this game. We are not even close to lylo Im at a mindset due to peoples inactivety that if I cant contribute going forward people were screwed | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:51 Serejai wrote: Kelsier is also about to be modkilled. Why not lynch sicklucker and let Kelsier get modkilled? Would that not be killing two birds (scum) with one stone? kelsiers not getting mod killed | ||
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When you see im vanilla town look over the thread and see how Serejai targeted me for little reason and tried to get the heat off of kush. He then basically nit picked me for 20 hours untill i stoped defending myself because I lost my fucking mind. Hes a key post that started alot of this that you should all read twice. On November 08 2014 00:59 sicklucker wrote: Serejai I think your caught insanely bandwagoning here on me. Your the last person I expect to believe elvis so you cant even count that as a reason to vote for me unless your trying to deflect scum because he has us together . Elvis has you listed as 80% scum and me 95% scum THOSE ARE INSANE ASSUMPTIONS at least not you if your town because he tunneled you so hard and now hes doing it to me. The most I have on anyone is 50%. The only other excuse you used is "doctor slip" people have made leaps and assumptions on what the setup is many times im no different.At the time there was a 2 in 3 chance there was doctor and yes I was trying to get a safe on me I got town read 6 times and 0 scum reads on night 1. I think elvis hit on one of his two wild assumptions I think hes trying to deflect scum because im a vannila town and hes being group as a scum team with me. Lets go into serejais perspective. Hes town elvis tunnels him all game gives him a almost confirmed scum read (80%). Then elvis goes and does the same to me puts us in a scum team. His natural town assumption should be that elvis is off on his reads or scummy. But what he does is try to suckup to elvis to get him to read him as town and bury his fake partner with almost no reason. This man is my top scum and one of the other votes is probably his partner so thats why hes pushing someone else On November 08 2014 01:05 sicklucker wrote: Ok if im right about serejai his scum partner would be kush we can get him next week ##vote kushm4sta When I posted this he began his relentless attack not looking at anything else in the game | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:52 Serejai wrote: Here you go again with another of your TMI posts. How would anyone know that Kelsier is not going to be modkilled unless you were both scum and you knew he was going to post something last minute? and here you go again with not reading my second post where i retracted it | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:14 Fecalfeast wrote: You are aware night time is now, right? Im sorry im just exited I was right and we won the game | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:16 Serejai wrote: Bresh voted to lynch the cop day 1. Breshe is confirmed scum. Am I doing it right? nope your burying youself deep tho breshe was the number 1 guy who wanted kush gone so your logic makes 0 sense | ||
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On November 07 2014 22:58 Serejai wrote: Why would I waste my vote on Immaterial if a) Nobody else is willing to vote for him, b) I've already made my case against him and the only person that was willing to vote with me was Grack, and c) He may get modkilled anyway It's a wasted vote at this point of time and if other people aren't concerned about him yet after what me and Grack posted then I just don't see it happening. At the moment I would take sicklucker over kush because of that scumslip he made earlier in regards to there being a medic, and thus far he hasn't defended himself yet even though he's posted thousands of words since. Ok if im right about serejai his scum partner would be kush we can get him next week ##vote kushm4sta[/QUOTE] I went super hard on kush yesterday I think alot of you missed it because I dont think people read my posts judging by people scum reading me | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:27 Serejai wrote: Is this sarcasm? Or are you seriously suggesting that sicklucker is a confirmed town? Not accusing you of anything; just trying to get clarification. Its like hes diggin to china | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:33 batsnacks wrote: If anyone else got roleblocked last night now is the time to speak up. Otherwise jasmine is confirmed town. Hes not confirmed untill he dies in the night. Dude theres on way hes a role why would he come out at night? you dont come out at night you get immediately killed and cant effect the game as much. | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:38 Breshke wrote: just cos he was roleblocked doesnt mean he is a role oh ok I get it if your mafia roleblocked you see it even if your vanilla my bad. This explains some of his reasoning to go so hard after me. some.. not alot of it I think hes just lying | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:40 Serejai wrote: You're confused? That doesn't surprise me in the least. Your making this so personal have fun. I didnt read every little rule in the game. I dont see how him saying he was roleblocked proves anything tho anyone could say that. | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:36 Breshke wrote: sere is like most likely town if she doesnt get cc'd for roleblocked but there is a chance they roleblock a partner to make them look town. This is obviously really risky and i think im town reading sere anyway. Hes not confirmed roleblock tho unless im missing something? Anyone can say there roleblock but no one can prove it unless im missing something?. I think he just knows the jig is up and is making a play | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:33 batsnacks wrote: If anyone else got roleblocked last night now is the time to speak up. Otherwise jasmine is confirmed town. Oh I get it now maybe he is town dammit were both newbs =[ | ||
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On November 08 2014 08:08 Serejai wrote: Also maybe Elvis will actually contribute to the game now that he can't tunnel me anymore. nope theres still me | ||
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On November 08 2014 08:17 Superbia wrote: Honestly that was just incredible luck that we hit on kush. I can't believe you guys went with the worst choice. I guess it paid off, so I shouldn't complain too much. The only confirmed town gave us many reasons to vote him off | ||
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On November 08 2014 08:20 Breshke wrote: don't use just pure vote logic im doing it a bit myself aswell, it should be used to compliment other reasons. oh im not. But its rly important to point these things out for the lazy people | ||
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On November 08 2014 08:38 Superbia wrote: I'll re-evaluate on the morrow. I don't really remember who started the kush train, and I think there's some town-reads to be had. I think the most townie people are the ones who pushed it over at the last moment, however. I dont care who started it breske was the only reason it went through. I have a very strong town circle of me, breskes, rayn, elvis, serejai. I think theres a decent chance we can throw kelsier in there and thats 6vs4 the game is won. Of course thats only if serejai and elvis can see me as town... | ||
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On November 08 2014 08:54 Fecalfeast wrote: lol I started the shenannies onto kush tyvm, yeah I was late to vote (posted the same time as nightpost) but using votelogic to call me scum is hilarious. Yeah busing is a thing, I wont try to refute that but at least say I bused him if you're gonna call me scummy. Actually I kept refreshing because im a nerd and it was a good 30 seconds before your vote was posted after night started. Your vote means nothing you had plenty of time to make it look good and put it in after it didnt count. | ||
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On November 08 2014 08:57 Elvis! wrote: Guys if someone said he got rb'd that doesn't mean he's confirmed at all. Why would the role claim/why would the role counterclaim? It'll just get him shot. So I'm 100% the person who claims isn't the powerrole and is either a VT trying to take a shot or scum trying to be confirmed town. Ya i was confused too at first but it does confirm him read my posts for once man. | ||
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On November 08 2014 08:59 Fecalfeast wrote: Read my filter you donkey. your leaning town now but you change your vote alot. | ||
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On November 08 2014 08:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Its sentinel and sub. I explain tmrw. I think these 2 gotta go in the next 3 vote 100% Im glad people are coming to the same conclusions here I think the games solved boys Lets lynch one and if hes mafia we simply lynch the other and the games over | ||
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Serejai do you still think im scum? Because I was pushing for kush to get lynched and hes confirmed mafia . I dont see how you can logicly think im your top scum anymore | ||
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On November 08 2014 10:57 raynpelikoneet wrote: why the fuck are you talking about the future which you can't predict? I just talk alot bro its kinda why they scum read me | ||
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Elvis thinks serejai is 100% scum SO serejai thinks elvis is scum Then elvis decides im scum for not thinking hes a very good player for tunneling on serejai. Then serejai decides to believe elvis that im scum even tho he thinks shes his top scum. Then they team up to vote me even tho they both think each other is scum and ignore the rest of the game. THIS IS REAL LIFE THIS IS ACUALY THE GAME WE ARE PLAYING RIGHT NOW | ||
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sicklucker - elvis serejai ff kelsier ksc- kushm4sta superbia Kushm4sta - sicklucker breske bats sentinel Ok so kush and sent voted for each other and I dont think anyones pointed this out. I dont think this means alot because of how badly kush played I think sent would put his vote on him. Kush put his vote on sent when sent had 0% chance of being voted off at the time so I dont think this means much either. He just came on and put a random vote that no one else was voting on them left. Me bats and breske All made last second vote changes from ksc to kush because ksc had not voted and there was a chance of a mod kill. Me and breske wanted kush gone over ksc but thats just how the flow was going and I was trying to save myself a town im my mind for a pretty sketchy dude. People who were not here and left there vote afk were. Sentinel Kush and superbia. FF changed his vote off me to kush like 1 minute after the day ended. It was really sketchy to me and does not give him any points. | ||
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Bats also technically hammered kush because he changed just before breske form ksc to kush and hes smart enough to know breske was following. Ive been skeptical on bats but hes now in my town circle. | ||
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She also just completely attacked me out of no where after elvis said I was scum who was scum reading her. | ||
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On November 09 2014 04:32 raynpelikoneet wrote: I really do not like Superbia's posts at all. Especially the post where he states he reads kush as "fucking lazy town". I have no idea what that means because kush never did anything that was even near of trying to play like town does. Like how the hell do you read someone as "lazy town" based on kush's filter?!?! But what Breshke said is true and he is not mafia with Sentinel, ever. God i have a hard time deciding which one of them is scum and which one isn't. Gracks the guy who did bury kush said something like "kush is a really bad mafia who never helps town at all but sometimes he does that as town too" I had superbia as town earlier when I first entered the game, I dont remember why but I remember it was a pretty strong read. Thats the only reason I moved ff higher then him. I agree hes gotta go | ||
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On November 09 2014 04:33 raynpelikoneet wrote: Who the hell is Artanis? er I donno the new guy that ksc got replaced by. Hes been really townie but the guy hes replacing it would hard to go to the end of the gmae with that guy. | ||
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4.raynpelikoneet Played the most games over the period, with a pretty decent record. Always plays decently as scum and puts up a good fight, maybe he’d be higher if he didn’t go completely nuts every now and then. But catches enough mafia to make him an asset and worthy of a pretty sweet power ranking after all. 5.Artanis[XP] Artanis loathes playing mafia but managed to completely swizzle town in I’m a Cop You Idiot II, which is almost enough alone to include him on here. Some really solid games as town too, including a poetic woofing dog, means he secures his place. | ||
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On November 09 2014 05:42 Fecalfeast wrote: Wait rayn wasn't this superbia guy your next scum? What changed? Superbia and you are both still big question marks to most of us. That doesint mean you both cant help us solve the game 1 of you are probably town. Both of you could even be | ||
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On November 09 2014 05:37 Fecalfeast wrote: I haven't done any vote logic but IIRC sicklucker was basically foaming scum at the mouth most of the day. If we find out serejai wasn't rb'd somehow then her but from what I remember she's not been CC'd I agree im probably in the middle for most people but that makes me a horrible lynch right now. Why did you want my lynched yesterday btw. I more or less understood elvis and serejais reasons even though I think they were just being donkeys and I strongly disagree but I dont think I ever got yours as you voted me close to the end of the day. | ||
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All it was is basically a typo and that was his entire basis for attacking me for like 30 pages and I felt like there relentless attacks was helping mafia by taking focus away from the game so I made the tactical decision to just ignore them so the rest of the towns can make a good lynch. | ||
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Im very very worried about the way the game is going because of this. Me elvis and serejai all seem to be town atm. We have all fought so much there is like 100% chance if we go to a final 5 with 2 scum and 3 town its going to me me elvis and sereajai as the towns. I feel as it is now we lose the game if that happens. Hell even if we go into the final 5 with 4 towns we might lose. Elvis and serejai we really need to start working together | ||
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On November 09 2014 06:41 Breshke wrote: I woke up late but theres a weird interaction between ff and sentinel if they are a scum team ill find it and show you rayn. I find it really hard to put sentinel into a team because the only person i can see him lining up with is immaterial but since rayn replaced him it doesn't seems like less of a world. I still think sentinel is scum though. Hurry up your getting killed in 4 minutes. | ||
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On November 09 2014 07:18 batsnacks wrote: Well obviously we have a watcher. No its a doctor. A watcher doesn't save people from dying. I think its obvious who the save was on too | ||
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On November 09 2014 07:15 Serejai wrote: Caught one of the scum. Will post about it on Monday morning, or sooner if I can get hold of a laptop. Read some of my very last posts from D1 and people who commented on them. Want to see if anyone else notices before I drop a name. Imma? Im told the replacement can be a really good mafia player so im not ruling it out and theres 0 other mafia teams in my mind that dont involve one of the new players. But hes been such a good town and making insanely accurate observations. I think if we mis today we can look at other ideas like this but I think sent or ff have to be lynched today. I dont like how sent came on just now, its like he came on last minute to put in his night actions then left again. I think lynching ff could make more sense because he fits into a few more circles in my mind. | ||
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On November 09 2014 07:36 Serejai wrote: No watcher. Role blocked again last night. Sorry scum, I'm not the doctor I led you yo believe I was  Im very surprised you were roleblocked twice. But your basically confirmed so I believe you | ||
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I dont see how much they get off that. Maybe im the medic and deflecting? | ||
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But you never did give me an answer as to why you vote me . You just said I seemed scummy you never elaborated lets start with that. | ||
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On November 09 2014 07:15 Serejai wrote: Caught one of the scum. Will post about it on Monday morning, or sooner if I can get hold of a laptop. Read some of my very last posts from D1 and people who commented on them. Want to see if anyone else notices before I drop a name. Can you just bring this up now are you on phone or something. We might not have enough time if you post it the morning of the vote | ||
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On November 09 2014 08:10 batsnacks wrote: I just remembered this: That's pretty damning in retrospect. What was the context of this? I was not there for that. Bats what do you think of FF being the safer vote here? Or having a vote between them to get information | ||
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On November 09 2014 14:29 Breshke wrote: I don't think it is sentinel and fecal/superbia because of reasons ive already said and im reading everyone else town in this order of decreasing townness (serejai bats Elvis Sl0. If sentinel isn't scum then ill actually need to look back at stuff for fecal and superbia because they could easily be a scum team. I have no idea about you and rayn because rayn has started really strong and my gut read on you obi is that you are town because i think you would be trying harder if you got replaced in as mafia but you've probs replaced in as town and considering we just lynched mafia and there was a doc save you dont feel like you need to. I also find it hard to read your allighnments by trying to take into account what i thought of the people you replaced because that feels wrong. So i only have you and raynthere because of no reasons. I could easily be wrong on someone especially fecal and superbia. SO brekes I see where your at and im at a similar spot. Theres only one solution to solve all of your fears. lynch FF. If one of the new guys are mafia ff is almost certainly with them because they are pushing sent. If ff and superbia are a team as you believe is possible if you lynch ff you solve that problem too. And if its sent kush+ 1 ff is also the most likely scum. I feel lynching ff is a 100% win percentage while lynching sent is probably only like 80 | ||
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On November 09 2014 07:59 sicklucker wrote: So ff and sent are both probably mafia in most of are eyes. I think FF is by far the safer vote here. Hes been on the wrong side of both votes. In worlds where one or two of the new guys are mafia which is completely possible then ff is more likely with them because rayn is pushing sent. Thats the only reason I want to vote ff over sent today Im taking the safer play here | ||
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On November 09 2014 17:24 Fecalfeast wrote: let's kill rayn then, if you're so sure he's pocketing us. I don't see why you would kill me? Its a very low percent chance. Its very simple if theres two or three possible mafia teams you go for the guy that fits in more then one. | ||
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On November 09 2014 17:28 Fecalfeast wrote: You just say that certain people can or can't be mafia together and that's it. Yes rayns the only reason I believe were voting sent here. Hes probably just being a really good town, but I hear hes a really good mafia too | ||
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On November 09 2014 17:58 Breshke wrote: Ok now tell me why we should lynch ff instead of the guy you think is scum that has given up Everyone has said the last two scum are probably ff and sent. So to me it didnt matter the order. Ive said many many times I think its better to vote out ff just for the fact the unknowns in this game all want sent gone and not ff . I also think if theres two potential people to vote on we GAIN INFORMATION from who votes where. Ive said this so many times. | ||
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On November 09 2014 18:09 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is not really how you can do it. We have about 7 or so people who think Sentinel is mafia. Are you going to push half of them to vote for FF? Then what? IF Sentinel flips mafia are you gonna call them scum for not voting for Sentinel? Or how do you gain information? Could you explain that properly. If theres a close vote and say sent wins 5-4 and we learn sent is mafia. Then we can see who didnt vote for sent and get information. This is such a stupid question rayn your smarter then this. | ||
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Ok so if this is true we 100% win the game thats what I was getting at earlier and why I mentioned it. Havent caught up on all the pages yet today | ||
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On November 10 2014 04:45 Elvis! wrote: Hmmm okay, so I guess we have different definitions for scummy. I call something scummy if it hurts town, is not reasonable in any way and if it's likely to have scum motivation. For me, bad/weird/horrible/misguided town can make scummy things. Normal town doesn't, but KSC wasn't ever considered normal town. About Serejai. Yes, a part of my push on him was connected with Kelsier. To make it clear, the scumteams I formed were never the primary focus. The primary focus on my pushes was always, that these people had a couple of scummy (see above) actions to their name and namely sicklucker didn't respond to questions I found easy to answer if he was town. I never "dropped the whole thing and ended up on sicklucker". Well guess what sicklucker wasn't there at the beginning when I pushed Serejai the most, and he came in with a billion posts that I consider scummy and not much that helps town. Then I push him and he doesn't answer my/serejais/batsnacks/ffs questions and just dodges them, which I considered scummy behaviour because, as ff stated it, if he would be town it wouldn't be a problem to answer them. Instead he called my push bad/bullshit and so on without reasoning and just told people they should ignore me because of it. I never in that said that KSC is town / Serejai is town. The only thing I posted since on the matter is that I was about to consider Serejai townie because of her recent posts and since she wasn't doing many scummy things for some time. Then she started posting badly researched (see my post like a couple of hours ago) things that paint me scummy and useless once more. So to sum it up: I still believe KSC's actions on EoD1 were scummy, but since he stopped posting after and had townie behaviour during Day1 I didn't vote him or push him a ton. He still fitted into a scum team, but it was more the other person being scum and KSC fitting in. Now KSC obviously got replaced. I voted for Serejai since I considered my scumread on her the strongest. The sicklucker became apparent and I was really sure about him being mafia (still not happy with his posts, but since he isn't getting pressured anymore the shit coming out of his mouth got less. Like his filter before and in the time after my push on him was ridiculous). Again, my case on Serejai was mostly not about KSC. I hope this explains what happened at the time. Thats not true I just ignored you and serejai because I was convinced your minds could not be changed at the time and no one was going to vote for me and I wanted to figure out between kush and ksc not use are last little time to decide if im not which I knew the answer. | ||
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On November 10 2014 05:57 Fecalfeast wrote: K if kush doesn't prefer to be bussed then i guess sicklucker is just terrible town. He did bus sentinel and regardless of how sicklucker spins it, he's trying to switch the vote off sentinel. Who's your next biggest scum after sent and after me, so i can filter dive them and be useful? No I havent been trying to get the vote of sentinel I been trying to get the heat on you since your one of two possible scums left in this game. New developments dont make any sense for this anymore so. ##unvote ##Vote [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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On November 10 2014 06:19 Serejai wrote: So, as an update on out medic save last night, there are only a couple people left that it could have been; Superbia Sentinel Obiwan Everyone else has posted already, so one of those three is confirmed town. I think we can also rule out sentinel so that leave obiwan and superbia. I'm more inclined to believe its obiwan. Thoughts? bats already claimed medic and said his save was on rayn. Im a little surprised rayn was the save because sent was trying to shift focus on rayn as scum at the end of last night but hes played super bad so whatever. | ||
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On November 10 2014 08:01 Serejai wrote: What? So bat claims medic and says he healed rayn. In what world does that confirm rayn as town? It would confirm bat, not rayn... Use some common sense. Are your serious? If bats claimed medic and said he saved rayn and no one died that means rayn was a succesful save and is town if we believe bats story. If we belive sent is mafia which we all do. Bats would never fake medic claim ever because he would get lynched next week because someone would counterclaim | ||
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bats serejai rayn people who we should not vote off breske elvis ( not as sure but meh) If we hit on sent we just vote off ff, superbia, obiwan and me in any order and we win the game | ||
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On November 10 2014 08:13 Elvis! wrote: but then medic dies next night. I don't see medic ccing. medic would 100% cc here. A 1 for 1 trade here grantees us a win especially if you believe sent is mafia Bat is not bad enough to make a fake claim here anyone its set in stone | ||
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On November 10 2014 08:16 Superbia wrote: Yo SL, can you explain to me how I went from confirmed town to probably mafai? I asked this before. Just tell me how it happened in your mind. You were never confirmed town you were my top town. I agree I was a little wissy wassy here but rayn made alot of sense and now hes confirmed town. Also theres so many nearly confirmed towns now that your just on the chopping block by default (along with me) | ||
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On November 10 2014 08:29 Elvis! wrote: So to sicklucker Rayn is basically confirmed town because of what? .................................................... I just said many times seriously. Theres like maybe astronomicaly chance rayn and bats are together making some crazy play but like no... | ||
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You came out as medic so tell us who you tried to save night one we can see if your story makes sense since these guys dont believe you for some reason... | ||
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On November 10 2014 08:36 Breshke wrote: Scenario 1 I think this is possible but not likely. It makes sense to me that they roleblocked serejai night one because she like grack was someone who didn't lynch the cop. It also makes sense that they thought she was medic because im suprised the real medic didnt try save grack. The second one is bad in my opinion. So you think bats and serejai are the two mafia left? Why wouldn't the doctor cc? What if they die in the night they lose us 2 confirmed town (themselves and who they saved) Also in their eyes serejai is confirmed mafia. So we lynch serejai and then there is only one mafia left, even without a medic i think that is a great situation and don't see why they would CC. This only makes any sense if they think were dumb enough to not counterclaim medic. I dont think anyone here would not counterclaim here. | ||
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On November 10 2014 08:45 batsnacks wrote: Tell them to vote me if they don't believe me. Simple enough, right? This is why I suspected you earlier man like this is the worst townie thing to post. Theres 0 reason why you shouldnt tell us your night 1 save were kind of curious why you didnt save gracks who alot of us including myself say we would habe. | ||
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On November 10 2014 08:57 Superbia wrote: Nice slip Serejai. Why are you confirmed town btw? Don't think you ever answered. ill answer for him. He was roleblocked and no one counterclaimed | ||
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On November 10 2014 09:00 Elvis! wrote: So sicklucker you think bats is being sketchy, but you don't see a world where he is scum with rayn. So if we "blindly" follow rayn since he's apparently confirmed town and apparently he always talks the truth and knows everything because he played more? I don't think so. He's just a possible townie like everyone else. i think bats is being a troll | ||
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On November 10 2014 09:02 Elvis! wrote: You said this is the reason you suspected him. ...? earlier in the game not currently no. | ||
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On November 10 2014 09:09 batsnacks wrote: ##unvote ##vote: Serejai ANSWER THE QUESTION !!!!!! Really he just copy pasted your answer from the qeustion I asked you LOL | ||
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On November 10 2014 09:22 ObiWanShinobi wrote: ##unvote ##vote serejai Rabble rabble. WTF IS GOING ON ROFL? are you or super the desperate mafia? This is how serejais played all game hes not a very useful town , but he is probably town and a horrible lynch | ||
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On November 10 2014 09:24 Serejai wrote: And there's your scum in those three right there. superbia is my top lynch after sent now hes either 1. Not reading are posts to know why your already confirmed town or 2. Mafia trying to bury you But are scummy in my mind | ||
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Mafia didnt use roleblock for two straight nights which is VERY VERY UNLIKELY but not completely impossible or hes town | ||
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On November 10 2014 09:42 Superbia wrote: So cop gets lynched d1 and you don't think it's possible for mafia to just roleblock one of their own twice to get them town read? I sapose its possible but do we really lynch him now? who would his partner be it cant be me unless you think im an amazing mafia player. If its not you it has to be ff. | ||
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On November 10 2014 10:09 Superbia wrote: I wish the cop was still alive. I have no idea how to read you. As town because Im the #1 person pushing this thread forward. I was also almost mislynched last week in a 4-3 vote and the other guy was mafia who I was hard pushing for over ksc. Im very obviously town here I wish more then rayn or breske would open up to these obvious facts. | ||
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On November 10 2014 10:17 Elvis! wrote: sicklucker so if you now agree that's she's not confirmed please don't tell people to not listen to me anymore <3 elvis if you been right on anything in this game it is Serejai and I will give you mad props if it is true. | ||
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On November 10 2014 10:38 Serejai wrote: You aren't pushing anything forward. You just sheep and keep flip flopping your views. So im a psychopath whos trying to confuse everyone, or am I a open minded person who looks at every angle and reevaluates ? I think ones much more likely | ||
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On November 11 2014 00:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: This is incredibly unlikely because Grack actually dying on N1 makes either of these scenarios true for mafia: 1) Serejai is a doctor (if i was mafia i would hold that as 90% possibility because..) and that's why the night kill went through 2) The doctor is really fucking dumb and protected ANY other person in the game than Grack (10% because anyone with brain should have protected Grack -- and sorry doctor but this is true). So going into D2 it is very likely that mafia thought Serejai is the doctor. Why? BECAUSE IT IS THE MOST OBVIOUS ANSWER. That means they can kill whoever they want on N2. However, apparently mafia played it safe -> didn't kill me and hit someone who is still stupid enough not to claim being hit!!! They also played it double safe because they blocked Serejai. It ONLY makes sense if they thought Serejai is the doctor (based on N1 kill -- which again -- as explained, is the most reasonable answer). However sometimes people's dumb targets do good for the town. That's not however good play. It just isn't. Spoilered the rest because of off topic, we can discuss it more after the game. + Show Spoiler + At least on N1 (and i would recommend even further) you need to protect the biggest town assets. Just because they are likely to solve the game, unless you of course have a strong scumread on them (which only really matters AFTER N1)!! Not protecting Grackaroni on N1 is probably even worse play than Kelsier (if town) fakeclaiming cop because no other target was literally even close as good as protecting Grack. But yeah, i hope why the above explains why Serejai is town -- mafia does not fucking waste roleblocks on themselves when they have just lost a member and there is actually a protective role alive that can confirm TWO people on one shot!! Bats said he saved you. Its said in the rules that the save is not notified | ||
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Did you not save him last night, are you retracting your medic claim? This needs to be cleared up and you keep dodging the question and trolling us. | ||
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On November 11 2014 02:00 Serejai wrote: It's not so much that I'd expect him to be good... more than I'd expect him to be less terrible. He's spent all game dodging questions, self-confirming himself as town for these ridiculous reason that don't make any sense, blue hunting all game, etc. He seems to lack common sense entirely and that's just hard for me to stomach from someone with his background and who has allegedly put so much time into studying mafia before playing. He doesn't come off as a "bad player" or a "new player", but rather as someone who is pretending to be one. For a short time I thought the reason why he was like this is because he was the doctor and it was some kind of really weird diversionary tactic... but then batsnacks claimed. Dude I watched like 3 episdoes of allstar mafia I never even have read a forum game I have no idea what im doing and having fun. Also none of my skills you listed means im good at communicating with people on a internet forum because im not =[.. You tunneled me when the only other player in the game thinking im mafia (elvis) was your top scum and everyone else gave me an early town read I dont even know how you can call me "the worst town ever". | ||
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On November 11 2014 02:02 Serejai wrote: I mean, he asked for our medic to claim yesterday for no apparent reason. That just seems too stupid to be true. And I admitted you were right. I type whats on my mind immediately because I feel you should read that as town. And someone really good as rayn is reading me as town so im happy with this | ||
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what group was kush in the second group? If so can you list the new player list so we can lynch them =] | ||
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Player List 1) Serejai 2) Breshke 3) Elvis! 4) KelsierSC replaced by ObiWanShinobi 5) Immaterial replaced by raynpelikoneet 6) Cricketer12 replaced by sicklucker 7) LightningStrike Cop Lynched D1 8) Batsnacks 9) kushm4sta Goon Lynched D2 10) Grackaroni VT Shot N1 11) FecalFeast 12) Superbia 13) [UoN]Sentinel So hes saying the last guy is in the top 7 eh. I think you take this with a grain of salt but hes played so bad who knows, I dont think he would throw his team under the bus tho. | ||
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On November 11 2014 05:56 Serejai wrote: Or maybe the top 6 are ALL mafia, and we're like the Espada from Bleach. I'm #1 so I'm clearly the strongest mafia. who says the espada go from 1 to 10? | ||
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On November 11 2014 07:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: FYI i think it's quite possible Elvis is mafia. He could be getting some really good coaching from sent and others. Hes playing a really dedicated mafia game if he is. Alot of the stuff he says I dont think anyone can possibly believe. | ||
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Infact theres 0% chance I dont get mislynched if this game goes on and I know im town so we really only have 2 chances to hit mafia in this game from my perspective. I think this next lynch is very important ff and this is not the auto win your making it out to be, but then again you dont belive im town so.. | ||
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On November 11 2014 10:11 Serejai wrote: I said at the start of the game that if Sentinel was scum, Elvis wouldn't be. So, I now think Elvis is town. That leaves my only other scumread as sickcricket. then we lose | ||
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I know this is gonna get turned on me but im bringing it up anyway (because im town) but who do you think woulda thought serejai was the medic on day 2 and 3? Give a reason. Im thinking he was targeted because he pushed me for something I said about the medic. | ||
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I think if rayn is the lynch this confirms me as town and I think this lynch is happening very soon but probably not tonight. If I was the lone mafia in what would would I leave serejai in over rayn? Both are confirmed one is tunneling me and wont change her mind. | ||
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I feel like you should come out and say that im confirmed town if your voted out because no ones going to listen to me. THERES NO WAY IN HELL I WOULD NIGHT KILL THE ONLY PERSON KEEPING ME IN THIS GAME. | ||
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On November 12 2014 06:53 Superbia wrote: If you're already dedicating 2/3 lynches to myself and FF I feel there's a pretty fucking high chance we'll lose the game. why is ff so clear? I think hes my top lynch now why do you think he is town? | ||
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On November 12 2014 07:09 Serejai wrote: And you don't see how this post makes you scummy as shit? "If rayn dies town then I am 100% confirmed town too because he thought I was town" - WRONG "if i were mafia I wouldn't kill the guy that thinks im town" - WRONG. You would do exactly this because then nobody would suspect you, since you would also be "confirmed town" and all. "you should come out and say im confirmed town" - WRONG, because that's not possible for him to do. You will never be confirmed town until you actually flip green, regardless of how many times you make up these random-ass reasons for why you have to be. No your scummy as shit for posting that . I used very sensible logic. Ask yourself this If im mafia do I have anychance winning if both you, ff and elvis are tunneling? Nope thats 3 votes I have to kill one of you tonight. Where as rayn is staking his mafia reputation that im town. I would not lynch him as mafier... | ||
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On November 12 2014 07:14 Serejai wrote: But you said yourself that if rayn dies it confirms you as town, so as scum wouldn't you want to be confirmed town? You're contradicting yourself. brick fucking wall. | ||
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On November 12 2014 07:16 Breshke wrote: Sick lucker let me try run you through this before people get mad So as mafia you wouldn't kill rayn because he is the only person reading you town. Therefore if someone else dies it is probably you who is mafia Therefore as mafia why wouldn't you kill rayn so people don't think you are mafia. Understand? NO i get that but If rayns not lynched at least as mafia I would have a chance to change peoples minds. IF rayns lynched here at some point its going to be me, elvis , serejai, ff . And then im 100% gone and have no chance to win as you've noticed theres not changing these peoples minds. If I vote out rayn I have 0% chance. but If I vote out serejai I have a slim chance? Am I making anysense to you? | ||
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On November 12 2014 08:42 Superbia wrote: I got roleblocked. Make from that whatever the fuck you want. Also a little surprised bats was actually the doctor, or the hit for that matter. the mafia is bad or wants us to think hes bad so nothing. You could also just lie because theres no reason for him to roleblock | ||
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1. The mafia is bad and doesint know that the medic is useless since he can roleblock him every round. 2. Someones fucking with us thats not on rayns radar. The only person that could be is obiwan So that doesint really tell us much. but what this does tell thats very important is this. Superbia is #1 on rayns lynch list if hes mafia hes not bad enough to leave him in the game. I dont want to lynch superbia today I want to lynch ff or obiwan, maybe even elvis | ||
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On November 12 2014 09:09 Breshke wrote: sicklucker how do you not drown in your wifom This makes so much sense tho Ignore all my last posts and tell me im wrong? I think this means superbia is a bad lynch today nothing more. | ||
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On November 05 2014 06:18 Fecalfeast wrote: nah I am not buying it. ##unvote ##vote lightningstriker I start work at 2pm (deadline) so I may not be here for any shennanies. The vote at this point is on sent, he moves it off sent to a claimed cop? He then makes a nice excuse so he wont have to change his vote. Hes pretty wissywassy for a few minutes after that it is a bit confusing but in the end 10 minutes before the vote he says this right after ksc changes his vote from ls to sent. Now that the heats on sent again NOW he uses his previous excuse to miss this vote just 10 minutes before and afk's his vote on are cop at the same time leaving a vote off sentinel. On November 05 2014 06:49 Fecalfeast wrote: sorry I can't delay leaving any longer. This day is strange. ref- pg36-38 everyone should reread these pages there the most important so far. I know vote logic isint everything but this is pretty damning, he also tried to hammer me over kush the day after. Hey ff can you post your work schedule? is that allowed? ;p | ||
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FecalFeast: The FF I know is fine with pushing on almost everyone and I expect town-FF to be interacting with me throughout the game. This game FF has avoided me (though tbh I haven't been nearly as active as I've wanted to be), which is exactly what I expect his scum game to be (the game I was town and he was scum he was pretty afraid of me in scum QT). His d1 reads are forgetful. I remember his vote ended up on the cop, and he had some out of game reason to be afk during the very EoD (he did almost the exact same thing during the game I mentioned before, pretty sure I've never seen him afk during EoD when he's town, but admittedly, this is not strongly alignment indicative). His d2 play was basically tunneling on Kush without a good reason (imo), and I stand by my point that Kush was not really a good target. The fact that his vote didn't even end on Kush and he didn't even really help in the lynch doesn't help him at all | ||
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2. Sentinel: I had a (cute/dumb) little play during d1 which pinged out Sentinel for me. After I pressured him his response seemed pretty terrible to me. Looked like he was trying to insert himself into a group. Doesn't help that he wrote a bit regarding someone (I believe FF) from a perspective in which they were confirmed town (i.e. probably a scumslip, town is never confident enough to assume other people are town d1), even though he had no real read on them. He had his vote on the cop at EoD1, and I don't think he ever gave a proper explanation (doesn't really matter either, because you can claim afk or whatever). Has done absolutely nothing during d2 My read on super is he just tunneled on one guy the whole game and was inactive but I got very towny reads. The only scum reads on him are meta shit I dont really understand. I have a hard time seeing him aligned with sent but its possible and he did defend kush more then most. My gut says hes town but my brain says we have to lych him after ff. The only other guy I would look at is obiwan, but thats hard because hes done nothing to help and I have no meta on ksc to make any judgement on wtf he was doing. Does anyone here know ksc very well? | ||
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On November 09 2014 17:55 Fecalfeast wrote: I'm gonna bet 100 arbitrary units of value serejai comes in with a post on sicklucker you heard it here fisrt omg we must be in mafia qt wtf how did u know are we still waiting on serejais big claim btw? | ||
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Kushm4sta (4): [UoN]Sentinel, batsnacks, Breshke, sicklucker sicklucker (3): Elvis!, Serejai, FecalFeast KelsierSC (1): Superbia [UoN]Sentinel (1): kushm4sta Not Voting (2): KelsierSC, Immateria Wow both sent and kush coulda hammered on me mafia has played so bad they dont deserve to win. The reason I said ff was the hammer here is because I felt like he was waiting for one of his two buddys to log on and save themselves. When he realized they were not I feel like he changed his vote after blaze said voting is over to save face but it was not counted. (and yes im aware this vote count makes me look mafia I wouldnt bring it up if I was) | ||
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On November 12 2014 11:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Everything SL says is so town. Cripes. Who's the jubber still trying to lynch him? FF vote him superbia has been tunneling on ksc all game so him voteing you doesn't mean much | ||
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On November 12 2014 13:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote: How is it that SL knows what the term donkey means? That's a video mafia term. Hasn't he been marketing himself as a newbie all game? I said my only mafia experience was watching allstar mafia. Its also a poker thing as someone went to my blog im confirmed poker player. Also you realize I posted the vote count and said this makes me look really mafia right? Do you really think i purposely hand out evidence if im mafia? really? | ||
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On November 12 2014 13:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote: ##unvote ##vote sicklucker If the scumteam killed themselves to frame you, then I hope it was worth it. Two mafia for a town is an...Interesting trade. honestly tho I cant even defend myself here mafia played so bad. The only defense i have is that everyone changed their votes at the last second so people were confirmed and everyone in this is pretty bad including myself so im not surrprised. | ||
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On November 12 2014 14:05 Fecalfeast wrote: So either sicklucker wants us to kill him or the roleblocker is inexperienced enough to not realize he has to tell afk kush and afk sent how to vote. Elvis comes to mind, maybe? Wow this game is silly. Dont forget that the roleblocker is still blocking people not named bats. Its like he didnt bother reading the rules and is still looking for roles. | ||
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On November 12 2014 15:16 Breshke wrote: How do you know he didn't role block bats? super claimed roleblock. Take that for what its worth | ||
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"Take that for what its worth" "Take that for what its worth" | ||
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My top town out of them would be elvis although deep inside I wish he was mafia because he played such a bad town game ( and this is coming from someone who played a bad town) and I cheer for the lil guy. Hes not open minded at all and I dont think you can even convince him serejai is town at this point but from my like 30+ pages talking to him I do believe he believes what he says, like a conspiracy theorist believes in his shit. I have a friend whos into a conspiracy theorist forum and he sounds just like those people to me. | ||
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On November 13 2014 01:13 Elvis! wrote: Is this not a softclaim? I called it soft since he didn't stick with it, but he did say he is the doctor, which I don't see a reason why at this point. Also Breshke you yourself repeatedly say people shouldn't go off vote logic and your major point for killing me is me voting Serejai on day 1? On day 1, where barely anyone had an idea what they were lynching? Then again, sicklucker tries way too hard to paint himself town, saying he answererd to our questions which isn't even remotely true, we asked him like 20-30 questions he never answered for no reason whatsoever except saying our push on him is bad, even though as a lot of other people are pointing out all he posted was WIFOM "pushes", him in a WIFOM way posting that vote count that strongly indicates he's mafia, Then he says "no I posted it myself it's not mafia" which is WIFOM once again. He's barely been useful at all and posted so much useless stuff in this thread, I can't even remotely relate to that amount. Him going WIFOM and OMGUS all over the place and saying people are tunneling and not open minded when he himself just calls peoples posts bullshit because he doesn't like their previous post is really scummy. He tries to paint himself town way too hard, tries pocketing people way too hard, ignores everything negative about him way too hard, doesn't answer questions way too much and posts useless/WIFOM stuff way too much. He's our last mafia here, let's get 3 in a row. ##Vote sicklucker Lets not pretend like I didnt push kush the vote that changed this game around. | ||
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On November 13 2014 07:20 Elvis! wrote: Like I don't wanna die, but sure, I mean if you lynch me I'm confirmed and then sicklucker is basically confirmed mafia. EZ GAME EZ LYFE there is more wioym or whatever then any post Ive ever posted. I been defending you as town like all game as well. | ||
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On November 13 2014 07:26 Breshke wrote: Rayn I don't think ff is the lynch today. This post happened just two minutes before the deadline and i believe it was either Kelsier(obi) or Sl set to be lynched. Town was happy with these lynches as hardly anyone seemed keen to vote on kush that day other than myself. This post from ff sparked bats to change his vote which then let me do what i had wanted to do all that day and lynch kush with SL dropping the hammer to save himself. What would be ff's scum motivation to do this? He knew me, bats and SL were in the thread and that myself and SL would definetly switch onto kush given i had been pushing that lynch and it would save SL. Yeah bussing is a thing but i don't think scum ff would bus like this. This was a last second thing if he was going to bus why not bring out more thought out arguments much earlier in the day so when kush then flipped scum people would read him town for his thought process and not just a last second comment. This is also intresting This is interesting and I will reread the context of it, but in the end he was not involved in the shennanie at all his vote, he left his vote afk on me as the third vote. What page was this on? This could mean nothing or it could mean alot, I dont trust one liners from a filter but it does seem worth reading up on. | ||
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On November 13 2014 08:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Except SL tried to lynch someone else to create more "information." So it wasn't really unanimous until later. I'm sure there's some other stuff there but I might look into it later. Might. My words were kush is my top lynch at the time everyone wanted to vote you. All I said was a two way vote between kush and ksc would give us alot of information. I suggested a two way vote.(to keep a third person from getting involved) It was going to be a two way vote anyway between them untill I said this so I dont think this means anything. (except this backfired and it was me vs kush vs ksc) Like you said your a big question mark so if anyone was getting mislynched I wanted it to be you. I hope that clears this up. | ||
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On November 13 2014 09:10 Superbia wrote: No fucking way mafia concedes in that position. No fucking way. ? I kinda believe her tho she could just be bored | ||
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On November 13 2014 09:35 Breshke wrote: sicklucker do you not believe serejai is really conceding? I posted all those before I saw him concede | ||
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If this is true you know i kinda solved the game like last week right? I think some of you owe me an apology | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:56 sicklucker wrote: Ok so this is my post incase im lyched. When you see im vanilla town look over the thread and see how Serejai targeted me for little reason and tried to get the heat off of kush. He then basically nit picked me for 20 hours untill i stoped defending myself because I lost my fucking mind. Hes a key post that started alot of this that you should all read twice. When I posted this he began his relentless attack not looking at anything else in the game | ||
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So if me and serejai are both town, we both think elvis is an idiot posting a 1000 word essay saying were scum. But serejai goes and calls me scum because of the post???????? Thats where I was getting my read from and Im very confident I woulda convinced you all on day two but that fucking claim! | ||
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On November 13 2014 10:19 Breshke wrote: So you don't think mafia concedes in this position but you are 100% confident in that read? No I think its a real concede but I wouldnt put serejai past trolling here. I was 100% confident before that fake claim I still dont know what to think of it I give serejai props for that. | ||
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On November 13 2014 08:53 Elvis! wrote: Fuck you sicklucker, you said you'll give me mad props if it's Sere. Also, I didn't buy his fake roleblock. Who got blocked? Fuck that person so much. Except at the time I forgot how he pocketed you. But I will give you props for tunneling 1 of 2 correct people congrats. Serejai played you like a fiddle. The only reason you stayed on serejai is because you didnt understand wtf a role block was more then reads lets be honest. You almost lost this for town. If im mislynched and kush and sent stick around longer serejais fake roleblock woulda won him the game. | ||
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On November 13 2014 14:56 Fecalfeast wrote: I'll give you both props, does that make it better? Shittiest town player of the game here, acknowledging the superior townplay of elvis and licksucker. Serejai could you pm BH that you concede? That'd be super Dont speak too soon a new contender has steeped up to the plate | ||
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On November 12 2014 06:53 Superbia wrote: If you're already dedicating 2/3 lynches to myself and FF I feel there's a pretty fucking high chance we'll lose the game. Infact I think superbias looking really town lately. Hes pretty much ignored ff and defended him from time to time even tho him and ff were the top two lynches on alot of peoples lists. Hes sticking to his reads and not bandwagoning for easy mislynches. Everyones ignoring obi, DOnt you think a mafia would go for the easy misynch? I never looked into that ff thing that might have helped clear him because of the distraction. Its probably serejai being a dolt, im going to bed now and probably sleeping through the vote and he has not given me any reason to change it. | ||
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##vote fecalfeast Alright fuck it ill take the safe player for now. I dont think I can ever leave serejai in on a lylo after this. I think this is the only vote we will have the numbers to vote off ff because rayns gonna get shot so this order makes sense If I want serejai ff + one of obi or elvis lynched | ||
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On November 13 2014 14:56 Fecalfeast wrote: I'll give you both props, does that make it better? Shittiest town player of the game here, acknowledging the superior townplay of elvis and licksucker. Serejai could you pm BH that you concede? That'd be super I find this a bit scummy as well. From my interactions with him I dont truly believe he thinks he played worse them me or elvis. Maybe someone whos played with him a bit more can add onto this, is ff a modest person? | ||
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Sorry for missing the vote, but I told everyone I would miss it and tried to help rayn lead the lynch on who I thought is most likely mafia before I went to sleep. Ive had elvis town all game, I think this is one time you shoulda sheeped me as I think obiwan was a much better lynch. I know elvis has no coherent thought process and not helpful so Im not surprised people went after him tho. I feel like if ff is mafia we just lose. If rayns killed in the night thats one less hard vote for him. Lets do a little census who here would consider voting ff? If not I think the only one I can look at here is obiwan I need to reread and see if ksc being with kush and sent makes any sense. Obiwan if you are town its time to step up and help now. | ||
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On November 14 2014 07:08 Serejai wrote: Here's my day 5 vote ##vote sicklucker Really? You just spent all day calling me town from what I just read. Just because elvis is town does not mean im even slightly scummier. Breske you should know this from last game aparently | ||
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On November 14 2014 10:32 Fecalfeast wrote: If we lose to afk scumclaiming serejai i'ma be pissed +1 Im honestly surprised everyone completely ignored him I thought it was gonna be a close vote between him and you | ||
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On November 13 2014 10:54 sicklucker wrote: #vote serejai On November 14 2014 01:08 sicklucker wrote: ##unvote ##vote fecalfeast Alright fuck it ill take the safe player for now. I dont think I can ever leave serejai in on a lylo after this. I think this is the only vote we will have the numbers to vote off ff because rayns gonna get shot so this order makes sense If I want serejai ff + one of obi or elvis lynched | ||
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On November 15 2014 09:59 Breshke wrote: What question must have missed them sorry. Feel free to ask again. I..Just...Want...to...know...if...you...would...consider...ff...today...and...what...pg...that...thing...you...mentioned...before... making...him...look...town...is..on I..Just..tried.to..clean..my..keyboard..didnt..work..[ | ||
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If no ones gonna vote ff then the best play i see this week is obi. Then we can decide between ff and serajai next week | ||
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So let me explain to everyone that if ff is mafia and we vote out obiwan the game is over. That would leave ff serejai, me and superbia. FF and ser would push me so thats 2vs2 at best and we would get no possible lynches other then me. If ff is town we probably vote out obiwan and serajai which is fine. The point is we have to 100percent decide on if we think ff is mafia or town this week because this is ARE ONLY CHANCE to lynch him. | ||
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are we just going to disregard his reads like lynch ff that have been pretty much perfect besides that elvis disaster? My strong reads have never changed the whole game breske/town ff/mafia of course my less strong reads change more as im trying to solve the game and have to adapt to situations and new info I might have missed. Because thats what towns do. serajai is like deliberately trolling us and trying to ruin the game for town of course im considering her. And yes im defending myself hard here 1 mislynch and we probably lose | ||
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On November 15 2014 16:36 Fecalfeast wrote: no, i was telling licksucker that there are not, in fact, only 2 options for lynch Not from my pov because I dont want to get mislynched tomorrow but ya I get it. Honestly im readding between the lines and im getting misslynched tormorow for sure if not today. So whoever we get has to be mafia this is the most important day of the game | ||
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On November 15 2014 16:25 Fecalfeast wrote: 1.breshke deserves the win if he's last scum. 2.serejai assuming roleblocks are pmed to vts she is town or the roleblocker who never roleblocked anyone to confirm herself Is number 2 true? if so dammit I wouldnt lynch her but im going into assuming we only have one chance | ||
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On November 15 2014 22:29 Serejai wrote: I still think SL is scum as shit. Everything he says is either wifom or full of holes. He spent all game blue hunting, proclaiming himself confirmed town for made up reasons, sheeping, and not having a single thought of his own. Scummy or stupid? I don't know. im like literately 10x smarter then you | ||
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On November 15 2014 22:58 Breshke wrote: SL could you make a case on ff pointing out posts you find scummy and talking about his overall gsmeplay/votes where its necesssry. like only if you habe time though. Can you give me the pg number for that one liner you posted defending him I asked like 3 times. ill do it myself eventually but its like 9am here and I havent slept. If we can count out ff it makes this game alot easier | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: Breskhe if tou're town look into other rhings than sl. Him and elvis were dudes pushing the thread forwards at the end of d2. Did they wanna save kush? Like rly... if not, they are not scum. If yes, why? Superbia, Fecalfeast and Elvis, there is our final mafia. Do not fucking lynch sicklucker!!! He is not going to be scum. On November 12 2014 06:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: Everyone who is town can blame me for the loss if sicklucker is mafia but he is not so shut up and don't lynch him. [/QUOTE] First of all all the points you bring up are necessarily not mafia traits. I do a lot of stuff you accuse sicklucker for as town nearly every game (although i am trying to get out of that). sicklucker has been way more useful than you say, whether or not you accept it. I won't go explaining again andagain why. Either you have read it or you haven't, and if you have it's maybe better to actually read what other people write aswell instead of just banging your head against a wall. Him saying some things are WIFOM or OMGUS doesn't make him mafia either. Because there is a shitton of WIFOM and OMGUS in this game. Like people crying "NO THESE DUDES ARE JUST AFKTOWNIES PLEASE DO NOT LYNCH KUSH!!!" That's fucking WIFOM. Unless you actually explain where sicklucker misuses OMGUS / WIFOM saying it makes him mafia is just useless. I also really hate the term "pocketing" because it is a term that in itself is designed to "make the other person look scummy without actually saying why something is scummy". It is just as possible sicklucker has strong reads on some people (actually -- it's even more likely because the reads are good) than that he is "pocketing". And you do not even explain why. You just use a term which is supposed to make someone mafia. Not gonna fly. Please do not do that. Can you give me some examples from Fecalfeast's filter where he has been useful? You sure can because you call sicklucker "barely useful at all and posted so much useless stuff". So all in all Elvis it's time to explain this case in detail.[/QUOTE] | ||
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On November 15 2014 23:45 Breshke wrote: Can you show me where you have asked that? I dont know the page number its just before the kush lynch. Im suprised you have such a good read on ff and havnt seen it and are only now taking it into consideration. Nevermind ill look through 300 pages again and find it because thats what good towns do. Ty for helping very townie of you | ||
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On November 15 2014 23:58 Breshke wrote: Thats not a case on ff thats just posts of rayn saying you are town. Can yoy stop saying i wouldnt kill hik because he read me town no thats wrong. look at exactly what you are doing now youbare using the fact that he is dead and quoting his reads saying we should just blindly sheep him. You could be town but u dont need you to.make a case on who has called you town i want a case on why ff is mafia. It is better to try and find scum, that makes people know you are scum. Have i ever tried to confirm myself this game? No becayse thats scummy and i dont need to, i dont need to survive i need to kill scum. Im doing both, like I could make a 1000 essay like elvis did but no ones going to read it if I have no credibility. Stop being so blind YES IT DOES MATTER. you sere elvis ff obi all called me scum for the last three days. your saying me as mafia would vote off the only one keeping everyone from voteing me out? If im mafia and I kill rayn Its literally a 0 win percentage for me WAKE THE FUCK UP. | ||
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On November 08 2014 23:00 raynpelikoneet wrote: So what i see from FF's filter is that he scumreads kush and Sentinel (softly) all game long but somehow his votes always end up on being on someone else (sicklucker & LS). Hell he even makes a full case on Sentinel on D1..... It doesn't make any sense. Why would you scumread some people and then push something completely different all game long? On November 08 2014 23:31 raynpelikoneet wrote: Also FF has multiple posts where he promises to do something after something but he never really does anything. FF started posting alot early and just fell further and further off something id expect of a mafia thats winning the game. So much that ive yet to see ff and superbia interact once which is interesting heres supers read thats burys him hard. FecalFeast: The FF I know is fine with pushing on almost everyone and I expect town-FF to be interacting with me throughout the game. This game FF has avoided me (though tbh I haven't been nearly as active as I've wanted to be), which is exactly what I expect his scum game to be (the game I was town and he was scum he was pretty afraid of me in scum QT). His d1 reads are forgetful. I remember his vote ended up on the cop, and he had some out of game reason to be afk during the very EoD (he did almost the exact same thing during the game I mentioned before, pretty sure I've never seen him afk during EoD when he's town, but admittedly, this is not strongly alignment indicative). His d2 play was basically tunneling on Kush without a good reason (imo), and I stand by my point that Kush was not really a good target. The fact that his vote didn't even end on Kush and he didn't even really help in the lynch doesn't help him at all. Super the only reason you say ff is not mafia is because he would have already conceded? Well if ff's mafia here and no one believes me hes won the game so that does not really make any sense to me.Breakfast time looks like im pulling an allnighter for you fuckers;p | ||
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On November 05 2014 04:14 Blazinghand wrote: Vote Count Serejai (4): kushm4sta, FecalFeast, Elvis!, [UoN]Sentinel [UoN]Sentinel (1): Superbia Elvis! (1): LightningStrike Kushm4sta (1): Breshke Cricketer12 (3): KelsierSC, batsnacks, Serejai Not Voting (3): Immaterial, Cricketer12, Grackaroni Currently, Serejai is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00). Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone. Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain. like look at these early day one votes that looks like three mafia jumping on an elvis tunnel to me. Of course there not gonna vote out the afk guy because of a potential modkill this is actually some decent evidence. This was the only time sent and kush were playing the game and their all voting the same person. The more I read the more ff and sent seemed aligned to me. | ||
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On November 05 2014 04:18 Serejai wrote: It's also amusing that the first three people I called out as scum all have sat their votes on me ever since, while preaching to other people in the thread about how it's "textbook scum play" to vote for someone just because they called you scum. Pot, meet kettle. Kettle, meet the scum team of kush, Fecal, and Elvis. Like wheres this good town player jasmine that we saw at the start of the game calling out the scum team voting on her (replace elvis with sent) | ||
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QUOTE]On November 03 2014 08:10 kushm4sta wrote: ok i actually read the op. this setup is broken. non doctor role should claim. then doctor role will just protect the non doctor as he checks everyone.[/QUOTE] On November 03 2014 08:10 kushm4sta wrote: scum can surrender now. Do you understand what this means? This is at the very start of the game when kush realized hes mafia we see mafias actual mindset and motivation now. KSC IS MAFIA they would totally trade a mafia for a cop. Why would they use their roleblocker to do it? Well in their mind with the cop dead they dont need it, its hard to figure out a medic. Also we know ksc quit the game what does that tell us? He didnt have time for the game so thats why mafia made him do the cop kill play because he was quitting anyway. ##vote ObiWanShinobi WOOO WE DID IT Before you go WOW YOUR SCUM FOR CHANGING YOUR MIND ask yourself would scum go 4 hours without sleep reading the whole thread and dig out evidence like this? Vote obiwan and its a win | ||
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On November 16 2014 02:56 Serejai wrote: Lol more wifom from SL WHAT HOW IS IT WIFOM IF WE KNOW KUSH IS MAFIA, AND WE KNOW KSC COULDNT FINISH THE GAME THESE ARE FACTS | ||
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Thats 2-2 as expected which is why I said your vote is big here ff. Im taking alot of risk of you or super turning scum here thats how sure I am obis mafia now. As rayn pointed out and kind of the main reason he almost pushed a vote against him last week he changed his mind about me pretty easy and sheeped ff. Im dead tormorow if not today theirs only town motivation here. Even if im myslynched make sure you get obi when I turn town tormorow im not going super hard to defend myself now that I narrowed it from 2 to 1 and me dying does not matter as much. Looks like im going to get hammered tonight on short notice on little sleep so thats probably all your getting out of me untill close to vote time have fun and vote well. I feel I moved the conversation forward all game and that should be worth alot here, over someone who killed are cop and half his posts were jokes. | ||
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On November 16 2014 02:41 sicklucker wrote: Holy Fuck Boys and girls I think I just solved this game im really tired but ill try to get this out. This is the most important post I think im making this game so read it twice please. QUOTE]On November 03 2014 08:10 kushm4sta wrote: ok i actually read the op. this setup is broken. non doctor role should claim. then doctor role will just protect the non doctor as he checks everyone. On November 03 2014 08:10 kushm4sta wrote: scum can surrender now. Do you understand what this means? This is at the very start of the game when kush realized hes mafia we see mafias actual mindset and motivation now. KSC IS MAFIA they would totally trade a mafia for a cop. Why would they use their roleblocker to do it? Well in their mind with the cop dead they dont need it, its hard to figure out a medic. Also we know ksc quit the game what does that tell us? He didnt have time for the game so thats why mafia made him do the cop kill play because he was quitting anyway. ##vote ObiWanShinobi WOOO WE DID IT Before you go WOW YOUR SCUM FOR CHANGING YOUR MIND ask yourself would scum go 4 hours without sleep reading the whole thread and dig out evidence like this? Vote obiwan and its a win[/QUOTE] No one likes this post? I think its a good case best evidence ive dug out all game only one to mention it is the guy im accusing | ||
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On November 17 2014 06:50 Fecalfeast wrote: Since you're already thinking of scum plays, what would my play as mafia be, here? lynch me or superbia | ||
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Hum Ya I mean I dont think a scum obiwan has a play next week im not voting superbia I dont think. Also theres kind of a chance serjai couldnt have been roleblocked by ksc because ksc was not here. only a chance tho | ||
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On November 17 2014 07:07 Superbia wrote: Agreed with Breshke. SL can you elaborate on that vote swap? My goal is to lynch them both. They were both pretty close in my mind. My vote was more on me not getting lynched next week I already have serejai autovoting me +1mafia thats already a 2-2 vote right there. As town its my goal to not get mislynched on lylo. Super we have to both snap obi in 24 hours breske too if your alive, because tormorows vote is almost certainly gonna be a tie and apparently first vote wins | ||
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I felt we had better odds winning with an ff vote im thinking more then one vote ahead thats a mafia and a town trait. Im a numbers guy I play poker for a living obviously I was wrong but I dont regret it, like I dont regret losing a lot of money if my logic is sound with the information I have. | ||
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On November 17 2014 07:16 Breshke wrote: Also fairly sure that if we can we vote no lynch tomorrow, scum needs tp choose another person to kill and we get more time to lurk, I mean discuss Thats an autolose if im town. So i vote against this. Mafia leaves in me and serajai and they both vote me. Serajai is not playing this game and wont change her mind lets be reasl | ||
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serejai has stoped playing the game and is just gonna log on once to vote me and once at vote time like she did today. On November 17 2014 07:12 Serejai wrote: I've tried playing the game. SL is the scum. Nothing else I can do until people start to see that. sleeping is just really bad here I dont know what else to say this should convince 99/100 people | ||
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Also I did the math wrong theres a 3 in 4 chance im town not 1 in 4 so if we sleep they get autowin 3 of 4 times. | ||
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On November 17 2014 08:15 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I have no idea how Sl is so convinced I'm mafia. Hey at least im not serjai. Im willing to change if you give good reasons too. Its gonna be hard tho poe is not in your favor. | ||
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LIKE THIS IS SUPER IMPORTANT FROM MY POV BECAUSE I KNOW IM TOWN towns in really bad shape here we auto lose if serjai plus mafia vote before us its a race. Infact we have to decide who to vote now because we cant change it or im autolynched is anyone here? | ||
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I already said You should care about my vote because you think im town which you recently said. If you are town you should be pushing on someone. Im cool to talk the more we do I feel more confident in lynching you so far. If your town tell me who to lynch we only have 18 hours untill we have to vote we probably cant change are vote after that because of tiebreak which I already explained | ||
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On November 17 2014 10:54 Superbia wrote: Sleep will depend on the KP tonight. If Breshke gets killed we probably need to sleep and go to final 3. NO i already explained why thats an auto lose are you mafia? We cant have me and serjai in final 3 it just wont work. If serejais killed tonight then yes we can consider sleeping but she wont be. | ||
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On November 17 2014 11:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I don't see how me not having an immediate lynch target means anything. Like were kind of in a rush do you not understand the tie concept? Do you not think serjaias voteing for me? | ||
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On November 17 2014 11:09 Superbia wrote: What the fuck? First of all, how are you so sure I don't die tonight? what does that matter i need whoever left of you and breske to not be an idiot so we have a chance to lynch mafia | ||
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On November 17 2014 11:12 Superbia wrote: I don't trust you. I dont know what else to say then gg wp mafia town concedes I tried | ||
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All sleeping does is vote me out. If you think im mafia go ahead and sleep but if you think its someoone else dont. this is such elementary shit. And yes we are in a rush ive explained why but one of you are mafia and dont care. | ||
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Then how can you suggest sleeping and having both of us in the final 3? Is this a mafia trap. | ||
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On November 17 2014 11:36 Superbia wrote: Ten town points for the person who can tell me why this is scummy. Your his best mislynch target?, actually his only one he cant change his read on me now it looks too scummy | ||
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On November 17 2014 11:57 Breshke wrote: Holy shit sicklucker so you are going into tomorrow thinking everyone is mafia????? I think you are misunderstandingthe vote process just be here in like 6 hours and i will explain the no lynch to you Whats to explain im voteing no I do understand it .We cant sleep, we have to auto vote or im the one thats lynched its very simple. | ||
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Your definitively not trying to save my ass if you were you would agree with me on the sleep thing then we could get on to the main event o who to lynch. | ||
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On November 17 2014 12:16 Breshke wrote: SL why in all your worlds do you assume sere is town. If she is mafia who else is going to vote you with her Serejai is my second target, just because I said I could see other people being mafia does not mean I think its very likely your putting words in my mouth. | ||
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On November 17 2014 12:20 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Inclined to believe that trying to plynch tomorrow is a scum claim. Im not trying to lynch shit im just saying vote at 5pmest Theirs 0 reason not to you can change your vote theirs no drawback and its not scummy to try and increase towns chances and options. | ||
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" If serejai as town still decides to just afk vote for you and you are town then we probably do lose but that is her fault and is gametrhowing so don't do a sub optimal play just because you think someone is going to be a donkey" Well this already happened, If we sleep obi wins if hes mafia. Id rather just not sleep theirs no reason too supers confirmed town by me at this point so sleeping only limits me to voting out serejai, where as if we vote today I can decide between them. Im like heavily leaning serejai at this point but the fact obi wants to sleep scares me a little because thats an autowin for him. Im never sleeping here ##unvote ##vote serejai | ||
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If obis mafia here he votes me and we just lose because of tiebreak unless serejai changes her vote. The fact obi hasint done it yet. So two things happen here, obi votes me or we lose because we cant sleep. Or this confirms its serejai to me and from your povs it makes it me or serejai which I think is an easy vote. Super whats your thoughts man like serejai or obi? | ||
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On November 18 2014 09:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote: How is it that Sl freaks out all night over possibly being voted off and losing and still manages to not show up and vote? Whats the point of showing up if no ones going to vote with me? I had one helluva good hungover sleep | ||
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More on superbia two towns + me all gave the same read at pretty much the same time (i was first i believe so I didnt sheep rayn) We never lynch him here sometimes sheeping confirmed towns that are dead is a good idea. | ||
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and I even suggested a split vote between you two .My reason being you were a huge question mark and you still are. Im actually really pissed that I missed that elvis vote (and that rayn switched his but thats another story) because I woulda voted you over elvis their and this game woul be over or an easy lynch today. Im salty | ||
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Your wrong im not tunneling you im actually pretty close on you and sereajai I have some qeustions that might help clear your alignment if your answer them without avoiding or trolling which i feel you have done alot this game. Ill post in a sec im eating try to be detailed with them. | ||
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2. Do you not agree with me that if im town and we sleep its an autolose if the mafias not serejai? Because you blatantly ignored this fact it worrys me. Say you think theirs a chance super is mafia (which you do) Why do you ever sleep and just let super+serejai vote me out? | ||
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What im saying is you think superbia might be mafia but at the same time you want to sleeps. Both these statements contradict each other because if supers mafia and we sleep thats 2 to 1 votes against me and we lose. Reducing the suspect pool does nothing because super is town. what I dont get is why you dont just hammer me here. If we sleep you win, if you vote me now you win unless serejai changes his mind which is very unlikely. | ||
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On November 18 2014 14:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why is Super town, though? If supers mafia and we sleep, he shots you that leaves super who votes me serejai who votes me and we lose how do you want to sleep if you think supers mafia your story is just falling apart and you know it which is why you avoided the qeustion. The fact that you think super might be mafia AND you want to sleep to get more info tells me your mafia here. | ||
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On November 18 2014 14:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Oh, okay. Here's a question I have for you then: do you honestly believe that Serejai would continue not playing the game if I actually got shot over him or Super? What makes you so sure he wouldn't reevaluate the situation if that actually happened? Yes I honestly believe he would vote me over you if super was shot. If your shot im so towned on super right now id vote serejai anyway so that situation does not matter | ||
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On November 18 2014 14:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why is it that only Super would shoot me? Why wouldn't he shoot someone else? Because that leaves a final three of him, me and serejai who hate each other this game | ||
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On November 18 2014 14:56 ObiWanShinobi wrote: You don't really have that much of a choice in the matter, tbh. Nope I can convince super to side with me which is my only play since your not budging since your probably mafia. WHICH IS WHY IVE BEEN WONDERING WHERE THE HELL HE IS ={ | ||
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If we sleep the mafia gets the hammer more then half the time. When you decide to catch up on the thread dont be a donkey and do the only correct play unvote sleep | ||
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What it does do is it gives you the hammer. If you want obi gone you keep the votes the same. If you want me gone you switch your vote to me later. Kinda the same with serejai but a little more complicated ##vote obiwanshinobi | ||
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On November 18 2014 23:16 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If Serejai is mafia, we lose anyway because she switches to me before EoD. So your logic is still completely fucked. Why did you tell her that dude? .Also if she does this we know shes the mafia and we all just vote her? | ||
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Basically I went into this setting a trap. Whoever wants to sleep has to clearly be scum here. while the one who is convinced by me that sleeping is really bad (because it is) The fact you came out and canceled the sleep vote is why your now confirmed town and why hes probably the scum. | ||
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On November 18 2014 23:45 Serejai wrote: Reading SL's filter feels like I'm reading a script for Back To The Future 4 or something. So much WIFOM, so much insider knowledge about things. "This will happen, that will happen. This person will get shot, this person will never get shot." You have no right to judge my play man. It says in the rules you have to play to win or you can get banned. Your close | ||
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Its extremely alignment indicative im putting the hammer in someone elses hands your putting it in your own. You have not looked for one town. We need two towns to win the game. I found my town | ||
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On November 19 2014 00:09 ObiWanShinobi wrote: No it's not. Me wanting hammer doesn't really tell you if I'm town or scum because both alignments want it. But you want it at the risk of a 33% autolose from your town pov which doesint make sense as a town. And if you factor in all 4 players having equal chance of being mafia its a 50% autolose. | ||
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Wow you actually made a paragraph. Anyway Im off for like 8 hours | ||
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On November 19 2014 13:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote: Why would sleeping be good if I were scum? From your town pov if you think its me and not super. and now you get my logic srly? | ||
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If you think its jasime you sleep. But if you think its obi you vote him now. I get that you got shit to do but you know the votes in 5 hours right? Dont give mafia a free win because you gtg just believe in me your top town. If you cant be here give me the hammer and vote obi | ||
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On November 20 2014 03:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote: If you think Serejai is mafia then why do you keep pushing me as a lynch? I never said that I said "my only chance to win now is if serejais mafia" | ||
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It was really bad for him to sleep here and he knew that, then he blamed activity to go to sleep at the last minute so i definitely think hes sketchy for hammering this horrible play. Obi you do realize that if supers mafia you won the game for him right? You do realize that right? If you die in the night im NEVER convincing serejai. Like you have to realize this if your town which is why I feel this game is over. | ||
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Because obi is so bad that he has to be scum. Like we had this game won then you changed your mind for no reason. You had me as your top town you coulda left me the hammer instead you gave mafia an over 80% chance autowin | ||
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On the other hand i do find it weird a serejai mafia would keep super in over obi so ya I think are last mafia is super. That being said super if your town this is an easy vote with your reads on me. | ||
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On November 21 2014 07:21 Superbia wrote: I made that expecting to die so I will evaluate the both of you. Got to do some stuff but I'll be active in around an hour. Really you thought you were gonna die? Actually ya that makes sense since you thought I was mafia. Theres no way I leave you in if im mafia here. You really need to reevaluate . | ||
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Im not going to defend myself after you say "my vote is not moving off you" ##vote serejai | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:10 Superbia wrote: All right I'm here now. SL can you elaborate on why you think I'm mafia here? It doesint matter you have the hammer lets focus on me and serejai. | ||
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Basically elvis was hard tunneling serejai like he did to me for the second half of the game. Then elvis started to slowly switch to me. Serejai was all over that in an instant literately sheeping his top mutual scum at the same time elvis completely forgot about her even tho his whole case was us being together on a team. I then spent the next 4 hours talking to them back and forth and they worked together and neither seemed to give a shit they were sheeping their top mafia. Serejai has literally been a wall when it comes to communicating. Im not that bad at communicating when I talk to someone for like 30 hours on a forum and they still use the. BUT YOUR NOT DEFENDING URSELF attack I find it really fishy. Theres alot more its been awuke | ||
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On November 22 2014 08:34 Serejai wrote: Mostly, though, it's really damn hard to even look at other people with all the nonsense that SL has been posting. Like this is pure bullshit. He uses me as an excuse for his bad play. ITS ALL SICKLUCKERS FAULT I HAVENT PLAYED AND VOTED HIM EVERYWEEK. Hes said many times he thinks im a bad town and wants to spite lynch me | ||
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On November 08 2014 07:28 sicklucker wrote: Ok if im right about serejai his scum partner would be kush we can get him next week ##vote kushm4sta I went super hard on kush yesterday I think alot of you missed it because I dont think people read my posts judging by people scum reading me[/QUOTE] Heres a really good post of not only me pushing kush but him defending kush... I think this is a super obvious vote for you sup ill look for more | ||
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On November 08 2014 06:56 sicklucker wrote: Ok so this is my post incase im lyched. When you see im vanilla town look over the thread and see how Serejai targeted me for little reason and tried to get the heat off of kush. He then basically nit picked me for 20 hours untill i stoped defending myself because I lost my fucking mind. Hes a key post that started alot of this that you should all read twice. When I posted this he began his relentless attack not looking at anything else in the game | ||
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But if you remember I was very anti killing ksc when bats ff and i think you all wanted to kill the cop killer and kush was always my lynch that day. I was hard aligning with ksc on my first day in the game because at the time I thought it was town motivated(which was also true) | ||
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On November 07 2014 02:47 sicklucker wrote: I think sentinal would be a better lynch then ima. He was who I ment when I think there were better targets earlier. He seemed so active in this game before I entered but since I have been I think hes posted once or twice. Hes the likely leader for alot of the mafia teams as he seems more experienced. I feel like he went mute because he was caught in a bad spot because of kelsiers high risk high reward play and he doesint think hes on the chopping block yet or has just given up. I think its more likely imma is a bad town then sentinel is a bad town. Maybe someone whos played with him before can give us more This is one of my first posts burying sent. Do you really think sent lets a new player in his first mafia game bus him right after day 1? | ||
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On November 07 2014 05:29 sicklucker wrote: Actually im lost in my own train of thought. If sentinel was mafia HE WOULD NOT want criket voted off because he can get him mod killed AND lynch another town on the same night hes super scummy. And sorry for being a terrible town and confusing everyone this is my final thought on that ##unvote ##vote [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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On November 05 2014 07:28 sicklucker wrote: Im going with KelsierSC as a town here. He may have blotched it and got the cop killed but you can see what he was trying to do. I dont think he does this as mafia it makes no sense. The cop came out so theres no reason to do a high risk play to get him killed This is my second post in the game. The three candidates up for vote if you remember were ksc, sent, and kush. Like do I ever come into the game and pick him over my two mafia team mates ever?. This is like really good evidence here | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:03 Superbia wrote: This has been bothering me a lot, I want you to elaborate on what the fuck you were thinking here. Like it doesint matter what Ive thought about you im just paranoid. You have the hammer thats that focus. | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:11 Superbia wrote: Ok so you're saying you don't care about my alignment because I have the hammer right? But you don't want me to vote you. Is this correct? Ya whats wrong with that. It gives town the best chance to win if im town. | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:15 Superbia wrote: But you just said that you thought I was the mafia here. Which means that it's a losing strategy? Now I think your town by the way your acting this is a sick slowroll if your mafia and really bm. BUT WHAT I THIINK OF YOU DOESINT MATTER serejai is afking his vote again what matters is what you think of us. | ||
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Think of it this way. I want to work with both of you. Serejai just wants to lynch me and ignore you. Thats townie points for me not the other way around. | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:39 Superbia wrote: This is not the point... the problem is that you seem to have no real opinion on which of serejai or myself is mafia, all you care about is that the vote is not on you. Of course I dont want the vote on me as mafia or town. Like this is super standard stuff and has nothing to do with my aliment. If im town and im voted out its a 100% lose its the same as if im mafia. | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:48 Superbia wrote: Right. But that's not what this is about. It's about winning the game. If you were town, the game shouldn't be won simply by the virtue of the vote not ending on you. it does if serejai wont change his vote wtf? Thats my only play man what are you talking about | ||
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On November 23 2014 05:52 Superbia wrote: I think it's very important. What are the things that it is shifting focus away from? facts. Things that are determine alignment. | ||
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On November 23 2014 06:12 Serejai wrote: Of which, in this entire thread, you have yet to post a single one. It's like talking to a brick wall, because I've asked you to back up *ANYTHING* you've said all game and you simply refuse to do so. Ive showed where I put ksc as my town over sent and kush on day2. This shows If im mafia I double bussed both my team mates as soon as i entered over someone who scewed up and killed are cop which isint very likely. | ||
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On November 23 2014 06:18 Superbia wrote: But you fucking voted on KSC dude. What the fuck. For 5 seconds on a 3-3 vote for myself. Even rayn said as the most experience player this was the correct thing to do ill see if i can bring it up | ||
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On November 09 2014 04:17 raynpelikoneet wrote: Okay so people who were here and voted for kush are kinda clear to me. Each one of them could have swung the lynch away from mafia but didn't do so. Well your vote doesn't matter too much SL because you would have voted for the top other wagon anyways. Yes you are right, vote changes @ 1min after the deadline are non-alignment indicative in any way. If anything it looks more scummy than townie regardless of the switch target. So the votes basically do not change what i think in any way. It just makes my reads stronger. sicklucker i read Serejai's filter a couple of hours ago and there is about zero chance she(?) is mafia. She's been one of the most productive people in this game. | ||
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On November 23 2014 06:26 Serejai wrote: In that very quote rayn tells you there is zero chance of me being scum. Why do you hang on rayn when it benefits you, but not when it goes against what you think? He also said I was never scum he was wrong about one of us whats your point hes still a way better player then super | ||
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On November 23 2014 06:28 Superbia wrote: I don't think that's what it means. He means that your vote didn't push over the mafia since you were going on top wagons anyway. Also he mentions in the same fucking post that he's reading Serejai town. Which means that he read all three of us town in the game, and he was obviously wrong on one of us. Rayn is not some kind of deity. It works both ways man what hes saying is MY VOTE HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH MY ALIGNMENT hes saying I should always vote for the other wagon. If your slow rolling me here super im going to be so pissed you should understand this concept im so confused right now... | ||
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On November 23 2014 06:35 Serejai wrote: You really need to adjust your play style to something other than making threats against other players and insulting them. :| Threats I never made. But its the same as your mafia game so you cant rly talk.. | ||
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On November 23 2014 06:52 Superbia wrote: SL you may as well just straight up claim at this point. I claim... town | ||
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On November 23 2014 06:52 Serejai wrote: But an hour ago you were 100% sure I was scum, and 100% sure he was town. You "passed him the hammer"; gave him the "olive branch". You were so convinced he was town that you were willing to give him control of the vote yesterday to end the game then and there, and now - 5 minutes before deadline - you suddenly think he's scum. No I gave you the olive branch and you bitch slapped me lol | ||
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On November 23 2014 06:57 Superbia wrote: Did we win? no lol | ||
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On November 23 2014 07:01 Grackaroni wrote: pro-tip: Don't policy lynch people in lylo pretty much this | ||
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On November 23 2014 07:02 Superbia wrote: SL I slowroll you there because there is no fucking way I'm risking this game more than I have to. I already had the feeling Jasmine may very well think I was the scum here. Ya I qeuss im not rly mad at you im happy I lost to you and not jasime honestly. You played well you knew sleep was better from my pov so you pretended you wanted it. I tried to get me and serejai talking but it just was not happening | ||
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On November 23 2014 07:02 Serejai wrote: See, you're STILL doing it. You keep saying I would never change my vote and yet you never made an effort to get me to change it. You just kept trying to get Superbia to vote me instead, which still would have lost the game. But the thing is I did when it mattered. When I ignored you the game didnt matter and I was never in danger of getting lynched | ||
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On November 23 2014 07:05 Superbia wrote: Like that Obi kill was probably bad as fucking but fuck it. No way obi was never voting me over you was the vibe I got from him | ||
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Even then it woulda been hard because elvis wanted to like autovote me tho. | ||
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On November 23 2014 07:36 Serejai wrote: But you're still wrong. It was not an auto-win. You made it that way when you played so scummy on the last day and refused to give me any reason to change my vote. In a normal game with less-confusing townies sleeping is the best thing to do. No I think you proved my point but im not gonna fight about it. I came to you and you said that your never changing your vote straight up and I believed you so I gave up and moved forward assuming you were mafia because thats my only play. Yes I could have tried harder earlier but at that point it was pretty much set | ||
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On November 23 2014 11:48 ObiWanShinobi wrote: A well deserved win by mafia. Why did I get shot before lylo? Idgi. Rly? I told you final 3 of me and serejai= mafia win thats why I didnt want to sleep | ||
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On November 23 2014 12:50 Breshke wrote: Not if you had tried to find mafia and not tried to not get lynched. In one of your posts you said you thought superbia was mafia but then you voted serejai. Why not try convince serejai that superbia was mafia then it would be her fault not yours. I'm not blaming you but im just saying dont blame the fact that we slept. it removed Obi who was a question mark i still think it was the right play. I did try and she completely shut me down which tells me im right weve already talked about this tho and it was 100% the wrong play | ||
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On November 23 2014 13:08 GlowingBear wrote: Jesus man. Everyone is telling you that you were not having the correct play, and you're trying to justify it. Get over it, assume it was wrong and try to understand what you could do better. I still disagree sue me. Everyone who told me is also kinda pissed at me and i am trying to lync you ;p. Im only talking about the sleeping part which Ive given many reasons why its mathematically correct from my pov | ||
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On November 23 2014 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote: Bleh Superbia fooled me with that one post. I had it already and noone really helped. We had it untill you went off the plan of lynching sent,ff,super and went after elvis =[ | ||
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