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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 21:26 GMT
#663
Alright, I can get behind that.

##unvote

##vote Immaterial
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 21:31 GMT
#673
On November 05 2014 06:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
I guess we can confirm LS later and even if he did it so scummy-like, he is the only one hard claiming cop.

I still don't believe him..

##unvote

can I get a link to an immaterial case? I have to leave in less than 15 minutes.


You can have mine, but you probably won't like it.

On November 05 2014 03:58 Serejai wrote:
My vote would still be on Elvis if I had a choice, but I do not; it doesn't seem like anyone else is willing to commit to him.

I would be willing to change my vote to Immaterial as well, and here's why:

This is a player that is new to mafia; his first game. He even states this somewhat at the beginning of the thread by posting that he doesn't understand what tunneling is, and votes for Superbia because everyone else was at the time.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.


He reaffirms that he is a new player by posting that he had to go to some mafia wiki and look up how to play:

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.


A few hours later he makes a giant post about various people:

Show nested quote +
On November 04 2014 14:47 Immaterial wrote:
On November 04 2014 00:55 LightningStrike wrote:
He made some rather strange posts earlier in the thread
On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.

This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy?


I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.

My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts.

He seems to be trying to steer us away from the whole fiasco in his next post
On November 03 2014 12:57 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:38 Breshke wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.

This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy?


I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.

My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts.


Who's posts, which ones try quote them if you can. What do you think about them because of these posts?


I suppose the main post I'm referring to in regard to Superbia is Kelsier's:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:07 KelsierSC wrote:
My reasons for super

1. Deliberately tunneling is anti town. You have no desire to solve the game and you make things harder for the rest if town.
2. I looked through his past games. I couldn't find many but i don't see evidence of him tunneling d1 at all so why does he have this tunneling ticket nonsense. just seems like a contrived entry to the thread and not really wanting to solve the game.
3. Also looking through his past games, the recent mafia game of his was very trolly
this again looks like hm setting up to troll and dick around d1.
4. After stating hr is going to hard tunnel on someone he just picks up and leaves the thread


Superbia's initial posts seemed trollish at the very least. He just dropped the posts and bailed from the thread... Maybe he's just busy, but in any case it seems that doing what he did serves little purpose but to instill confusion/chaos among the town. Kelsier's reasoning in the post quoted above regarding Superbia seems sound.

It's very fishy for me with those two posts.


Sorry guys, haven't had a whole lot of time today so I'm just now reading the thread. Time is likely to continue to be tight for me until Thursday due to work obligations.

I see that many people are getting scummy vibes from me, and I understand to a degree. I readily acknowledge that my posts haven't been particularly valuable, and my analysis has been limited. Hopefully I can change the trend by extending this post beyond merely defending myself. But I have to start there:

In response to Lightning's post in particular, you said that I "seem[ed] to be trying to steer us away from the whole fiasco in his next post." In fact, the only reason I made the post in question is that I was prompted by Breshke to explain further. My explanation perhaps was not based on the most sound possible reason, but it was my sincere feeling at the time regarding Superbia.What some of you have perceived as suspicious or scummy behaviour is in fact just my honest efforts at forcing myself to contribute. My natural tendency is to lurk and speak when spoken to.

I will attempt now to give my overall impressions of some of the other players in here and my reads on them. My confidence level on all of these reads is quite low, but I want to at least demonstrate that I'm putting effort towards trying to figure things out.

I was sketched by the Superbia thing, but now that he's back I don't really detect negative vibes from him. I feel like I jumped the gun significantly on my vote, and as such would like to ##Unvote. I intend to think my next vote through more carefully -- if not based on my own analysis, I will try to make my it based on sound analysis from another poster.

I was initially sketched out by Breshke. He just asked a lot of questions and made a post or two that I thought were questionable early (the "decent player" comment and the one about mafia putting in effort). As the thread has progressed, my read has reversed. At this point, I feel Breshke has been one of the more concise and contributive posters.

My read on lightning is neutral. His suspicion against me was reasonable, but I do think designating me as "top scum" is a bit much.

In regard to Elvis!, somewhat early on I had a strange thought. Elvis! kept mentioning the Superbia posts, but repeatedly placed emphasis on the fact that how Super follows up the posts is what really matters; in his words, " His reaction is all that counts. So I imagined that Elvis + super were both aligned mafia, and that Super would come back and make a post or series of posts that would negate the suspicion drawn early. Thereby wasting our time + evading blame. In this scenario, Elvis' posts were intended to help ensure that everyone only paid attention to Super's subsequent reaction. Perhaps this is silly, and I'm not even close to convinced of it now (if i was I may not have retracted Super vote), but it's a thought.

As for Elvis' more recent posts, I've seen some people voting for him to by lynched, but I haven't seen any posts from him that really jump out at me. I do get a general negative vibe from him, but I can't substantiate the claim enough to really say that I read him as scum.

Batsnacks -- initial read scum (pretty unfounded in retrospect), now neutral.

Grack -- Neutral, leaning town. Can't really provide meaningful analysis to justify this rating.

FF -- Neutral leaning town. Can't really provide meaningful analysis to justify this rating.

Seraj -- Leaning scum. His initial comment was of absolutely zero value and was intended to be of zero value. As well, I disagree with this read: "Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia." I just didn't get that feeling at all, and this comment seemed baseless. His subsequent vote for Fecalfeast seemed somewhat suspect as well.

This is my best effort at analyzing what's happened so far. If there's a point I didn't extrapolate on, you can bet that it's more of a feeling than a firmly-rooted analytical conclusion.


The problem with this post is that the person who posted this and the person who didn't know what "tunneling" meant a mere hours before seems to have learned a great deal in a short amount of time. Feels like someone hopped into mafia chat for a while and was told what to post in order to salvage what was turning into a bad situation for him. He doesn't actually say anything of substance in the post, either - it reads more like a PR announcement. It's basically a gigantic post about how certain people aren't scum, but there's no actual explanation as to why they aren't scum; they just aren't in his opinion.

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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 21:38 GMT
#688
On November 05 2014 06:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 06:31 Serejai wrote:
On November 05 2014 06:28 Fecalfeast wrote:
I guess we can confirm LS later and even if he did it so scummy-like, he is the only one hard claiming cop.

I still don't believe him..

##unvote

can I get a link to an immaterial case? I have to leave in less than 15 minutes.


You can have mine, but you probably won't like it.

On November 05 2014 03:58 Serejai wrote:
My vote would still be on Elvis if I had a choice, but I do not; it doesn't seem like anyone else is willing to commit to him.

I would be willing to change my vote to Immaterial as well, and here's why:

This is a player that is new to mafia; his first game. He even states this somewhat at the beginning of the thread by posting that he doesn't understand what tunneling is, and votes for Superbia because everyone else was at the time.

On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.


He reaffirms that he is a new player by posting that he had to go to some mafia wiki and look up how to play:

On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.


A few hours later he makes a giant post about various people:

On November 04 2014 14:47 Immaterial wrote:
On November 04 2014 00:55 LightningStrike wrote:
He made some rather strange posts earlier in the thread
On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.

This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy?


I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.

My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts.

He seems to be trying to steer us away from the whole fiasco in his next post
On November 03 2014 12:57 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:38 Breshke wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:35 Immaterial wrote:
On November 03 2014 12:05 Grackaroni wrote:
On November 03 2014 11:37 Immaterial wrote:
In light of what everyone has been saying, I'm reasonably convinced about superbia so:

##vote: superbia

As a new player I don't fully understand that tunnelling stuff he was talking about, but it did sound strange.

This is a really strange vote. You want to lynch super but you have no idea why he is scummy?


I didn't say that I have no idea why -- I said I didn't "fully understand" the tunneling business. I had already searched and found an article on that mafia wiki site, but I still didn't completely understand what he meant by that in the given context.

My interpretation of tunneling is that he would just select on person he's convinced is mafia and target them relentlessly (tunnel vision). I don't know if that's the correct interpretation, but my honest read on it was that Superbia's approach in those posts was strange. My vote was based on that combined with some other people's posts.


Who's posts, which ones try quote them if you can. What do you think about them because of these posts?


I suppose the main post I'm referring to in regard to Superbia is Kelsier's:

+ Show Spoiler +
On November 03 2014 11:07 KelsierSC wrote:
My reasons for super

1. Deliberately tunneling is anti town. You have no desire to solve the game and you make things harder for the rest if town.
2. I looked through his past games. I couldn't find many but i don't see evidence of him tunneling d1 at all so why does he have this tunneling ticket nonsense. just seems like a contrived entry to the thread and not really wanting to solve the game.
3. Also looking through his past games, the recent mafia game of his was very trolly
this again looks like hm setting up to troll and dick around d1.
4. After stating hr is going to hard tunnel on someone he just picks up and leaves the thread


Superbia's initial posts seemed trollish at the very least. He just dropped the posts and bailed from the thread... Maybe he's just busy, but in any case it seems that doing what he did serves little purpose but to instill confusion/chaos among the town. Kelsier's reasoning in the post quoted above regarding Superbia seems sound.

It's very fishy for me with those two posts.


Sorry guys, haven't had a whole lot of time today so I'm just now reading the thread. Time is likely to continue to be tight for me until Thursday due to work obligations.

I see that many people are getting scummy vibes from me, and I understand to a degree. I readily acknowledge that my posts haven't been particularly valuable, and my analysis has been limited. Hopefully I can change the trend by extending this post beyond merely defending myself. But I have to start there:

In response to Lightning's post in particular, you said that I "seem[ed] to be trying to steer us away from the whole fiasco in his next post." In fact, the only reason I made the post in question is that I was prompted by Breshke to explain further. My explanation perhaps was not based on the most sound possible reason, but it was my sincere feeling at the time regarding Superbia.What some of you have perceived as suspicious or scummy behaviour is in fact just my honest efforts at forcing myself to contribute. My natural tendency is to lurk and speak when spoken to.

I will attempt now to give my overall impressions of some of the other players in here and my reads on them. My confidence level on all of these reads is quite low, but I want to at least demonstrate that I'm putting effort towards trying to figure things out.

I was sketched by the Superbia thing, but now that he's back I don't really detect negative vibes from him. I feel like I jumped the gun significantly on my vote, and as such would like to ##Unvote. I intend to think my next vote through more carefully -- if not based on my own analysis, I will try to make my it based on sound analysis from another poster.

I was initially sketched out by Breshke. He just asked a lot of questions and made a post or two that I thought were questionable early (the "decent player" comment and the one about mafia putting in effort). As the thread has progressed, my read has reversed. At this point, I feel Breshke has been one of the more concise and contributive posters.

My read on lightning is neutral. His suspicion against me was reasonable, but I do think designating me as "top scum" is a bit much.

In regard to Elvis!, somewhat early on I had a strange thought. Elvis! kept mentioning the Superbia posts, but repeatedly placed emphasis on the fact that how Super follows up the posts is what really matters; in his words, " His reaction is all that counts. So I imagined that Elvis + super were both aligned mafia, and that Super would come back and make a post or series of posts that would negate the suspicion drawn early. Thereby wasting our time + evading blame. In this scenario, Elvis' posts were intended to help ensure that everyone only paid attention to Super's subsequent reaction. Perhaps this is silly, and I'm not even close to convinced of it now (if i was I may not have retracted Super vote), but it's a thought.

As for Elvis' more recent posts, I've seen some people voting for him to by lynched, but I haven't seen any posts from him that really jump out at me. I do get a general negative vibe from him, but I can't substantiate the claim enough to really say that I read him as scum.

Batsnacks -- initial read scum (pretty unfounded in retrospect), now neutral.

Grack -- Neutral, leaning town. Can't really provide meaningful analysis to justify this rating.

FF -- Neutral leaning town. Can't really provide meaningful analysis to justify this rating.

Seraj -- Leaning scum. His initial comment was of absolutely zero value and was intended to be of zero value. As well, I disagree with this read: "Fecal seems like someone who just went into mafia chat with Elvis and they just decided to start shifting the focus to a new townie after they realized it wasn't working on Superbia." I just didn't get that feeling at all, and this comment seemed baseless. His subsequent vote for Fecalfeast seemed somewhat suspect as well.

This is my best effort at analyzing what's happened so far. If there's a point I didn't extrapolate on, you can bet that it's more of a feeling than a firmly-rooted analytical conclusion.


The problem with this post is that the person who posted this and the person who didn't know what "tunneling" meant a mere hours before seems to have learned a great deal in a short amount of time. Feels like someone hopped into mafia chat for a while and was told what to post in order to salvage what was turning into a bad situation for him. He doesn't actually say anything of substance in the post, either - it reads more like a PR announcement. It's basically a gigantic post about how certain people aren't scum, but there's no actual explanation as to why they aren't scum; they just aren't in his opinion.


Yeeaaahhh, I like the inconsistency point but again anything you claim to be from scum chat could also be from coach chat. Is there any other conclusion you can come to other than he got the info from scum QT?

I'll do some looking on my own I guess.


Unfortunately coaching makes it a lot harder, but in my opinion his post feels less like "I took advice from someone and wrote this" and more like "my teammates wrote this for me".

He also hasn't defended himself at all, so there's that.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 21:41 GMT
#695
On November 05 2014 06:40 Elvis! wrote:
So if someone wants to read up on my case on Serejai:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=22#439
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469857-campus-mafia-new-newish-players-welcome?page=26#513



Was your favorite game "Dig Dug" when you were a kid? Because you sure like tunneling.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 21:42 GMT
#697
"i just going to smoke weed 420 blaze it"

Is this real life?
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 21:47 GMT
#707
Dear diary,

Today my classmates tried to lynch me. There seems to be a small group of bullies - maybe three in total - that just want to watch the world burn. I tried warning the class of them but nobody would listen. Some even turned against me for being a tattle-tale!

I may have escaped a lynching in class, but I feel the bullies will be back again tomorrow to finish the job. For now, I shall return home and heal my wounds.

xoxo, Jasmine
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 22:06 GMT
#772
Rofl. Quoting for posterity:

On November 05 2014 05:47 Serejai wrote:
I still can't figure out why Lightning changed his vote like that. I understand why some of you might, but from my perspective...

I'm a townie. I was going to be lynched. If Lightning was mafia why on earth would he change his vote like that? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Maybe after I flip town one of the veteran townies can come back to this post and try to figure out why Lightning switched his vote. If he ends up being mafia then it has to be because the other two mafia are bussing him for whatever reason.


Maybe you guys should stop tunneling me so hard and start looking at people that wanted Lightning gone, starting with Imma and Fecal - both on my scum list since the start.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 22:09 GMT
#780
On November 05 2014 07:06 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 07:05 batsnacks wrote:
On November 05 2014 07:03 KelsierSC wrote:
On November 05 2014 07:03 batsnacks wrote:
Afk voting Chelsea tomorrow for killing the cop.


aha get fucked you are the one who random voted sera at the end there rather than actually saving the guy


I'm phone posting asshole I didn't know what the vote count was. Still afk voting you.


ok look at the votes, if I am mafia I switch off the guy who I know is cop and potentially allow someone else to be lynched?

use your brain, you random vote sera instead of imma which could actually save the cop

imma, sentinal, bats scum team gg


You know, this fits surprisingly well for me. My top 3 scum were Elvis, Fecal, and bats. I said that if Elvis and Fecal were scum, then Sentinel would be town... but if Sentinel were scum, then Elvis and Fecal were town. Imma was my fourth scum pick.

Imma, Sentinel, and bats is actually a scum team I would be willing to get behind - strongly enough that I would drop my scum read on Elvis for it.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 22:19 GMT
#798
On November 05 2014 07:08 kushm4sta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 07:06 Serejai wrote:
Rofl. Quoting for posterity:

On November 05 2014 05:47 Serejai wrote:
I still can't figure out why Lightning changed his vote like that. I understand why some of you might, but from my perspective...

I'm a townie. I was going to be lynched. If Lightning was mafia why on earth would he change his vote like that? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Maybe after I flip town one of the veteran townies can come back to this post and try to figure out why Lightning switched his vote. If he ends up being mafia then it has to be because the other two mafia are bussing him for whatever reason.


Maybe you guys should stop tunneling me so hard and start looking at people that wanted Lightning gone, starting with Imma and Fecal - both on my scum list since the start.


pretty scummy post right here.
1. it's an "i told you so" which scum love to do.
2 have you even read fecal's case on sent? it's sooo so so townie.


It was less of an "I told you so" post, and more of me reiterating that LS changing his vote did not make any sense if he were mafia.

The person who pushed for his lynching was bats, and Imma jumped in to vote for LS while saying he didn't actually read any of the thread. After reconsidering recent events, I don't think Elvis is scum anymore. Fecal I'm null on because he kept his vote on LS.

But, more importantly, let's talk about bats and Imma because their behavior regarding the lynching of LS was scummy as shit. Not only did bats start the wagon on LS (for a reason that I claimed wasn't valid, and nobody listened), but he also had multiple chances to save LS and instead threw his vote on my for no reason.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 22:27 GMT
#802
On November 05 2014 07:24 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 07:19 Serejai wrote:
On November 05 2014 07:08 kushm4sta wrote:
On November 05 2014 07:06 Serejai wrote:
Rofl. Quoting for posterity:

On November 05 2014 05:47 Serejai wrote:
I still can't figure out why Lightning changed his vote like that. I understand why some of you might, but from my perspective...

I'm a townie. I was going to be lynched. If Lightning was mafia why on earth would he change his vote like that? It doesn't make any sense to me.

Maybe after I flip town one of the veteran townies can come back to this post and try to figure out why Lightning switched his vote. If he ends up being mafia then it has to be because the other two mafia are bussing him for whatever reason.


Maybe you guys should stop tunneling me so hard and start looking at people that wanted Lightning gone, starting with Imma and Fecal - both on my scum list since the start.


pretty scummy post right here.
1. it's an "i told you so" which scum love to do.
2 have you even read fecal's case on sent? it's sooo so so townie.


It was less of an "I told you so" post, and more of me reiterating that LS changing his vote did not make any sense if he were mafia.

The person who pushed for his lynching was bats, and Imma jumped in to vote for LS while saying he didn't actually read any of the thread. After reconsidering recent events, I don't think Elvis is scum anymore. Fecal I'm null on because he kept his vote on LS.

But, more importantly, let's talk about bats and Imma because their behavior regarding the lynching of LS was scummy as shit. Not only did bats start the wagon on LS (for a reason that I claimed wasn't valid, and nobody listened), but he also had multiple chances to save LS and instead threw his vote on my for no reason.


FYI if exaggerating is necessary to making your point, it's probably not a good point.

I unvoted Lightning as soon as soon as he claimed. Then I revoted lightning as soon as KSC claimed. Then I tried to unvote lightning when KSC rescinded with less than three minutes left in the day. You have nothing on me and neither does anyone else.

To KSC, lightning was the uncced cop THE WHOLE TIME, yet he waited until there was less than three minutes left in the day because of "shenanies" or something.


You could have saved LS in any of the following ways:

1) Not starting a lynch wagon on him in the first place when you had no real proof,
2) Removing your vote off him after I explained why it was extremely unlikely that he was mafia,
3) Removing your vote off him in the last three minutes (which, despite what you claim, is plenty of time)

Not to mention the whole "oops, I was a tad too late to change my vote" defense that you gave is the scummiest thing I've read so far in this entire game.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 22:28 GMT
#805
In fact, I know you had time to remove your vote off him in the last three minutes...

BECAUSE THATS EXACTLY WHAT YOU DID. Except you put it on me instead of your scum buddy Imma.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 22:31 GMT
#806
For reference, here is batsnacks claiming he didn't have enough time to change his vote in order to save LS:

On November 05 2014 07:15 batsnacks wrote:


And here is batsnacks having enough time to change his vote to me in order to NOT save LS:

On November 05 2014 06:59 batsnacks wrote:
Fuck you

##unvote
##vote: serejai


Looks pretty damn cut and dry to me.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 22:35 GMT
#811
Ok batsnacks, you can keep claiming you didn't have enough time to change your vote all you want, but timestamps don't lie.

On November 05 2014 06:59 batsnacks wrote:
Fuck you

##unvote
##vote: serejai


On November 05 2014 06:59 batsnacks wrote:
Fuck you

##unvote
##vote: serejai


On November 05 2014 06:59 batsnacks wrote:
Fuck you

##unvote
##vote: serejai


If you had time to change your vote to me (and cause LS to get lynched), you had time to change it to Imma (and cause LS to be saved). But, you didn't because Imma is on your scum team. You've got my vote tomorrow regardless of anything else that develops.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 22:39 GMT
#816
On November 05 2014 07:36 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 05 2014 07:35 Serejai wrote:
Ok batsnacks, you can keep claiming you didn't have enough time to change your vote all you want, but timestamps don't lie.

On November 05 2014 06:59 batsnacks wrote:
Fuck you

##unvote
##vote: serejai


On November 05 2014 06:59 batsnacks wrote:
Fuck you

##unvote
##vote: serejai


On November 05 2014 06:59 batsnacks wrote:
Fuck you

##unvote
##vote: serejai


If you had time to change your vote to me (and cause LS to get lynched), you had time to change it to Imma (and cause LS to be saved). But, you didn't because Imma is on your scum team. You've got my vote tomorrow regardless of anything else that develops.


I post from phone, I didn't know what the vote count was, I switched it to you because I assumed incorrectly that you still had the most.


Yeah, no. Your last post before the vote change to me was the following:

On November 05 2014 06:48 batsnacks wrote:
KSC cced lightning, lightning didn't rescind, and there are still people voting outside of these two?

Wtf???


At this time, the vote count was as follows:

Serejai (1): Elvis!
[UoN]Sentinel (2): Superbia, kushm4sta
LightningStrike (5): batsnacks, KelsierSC, Breshke, Immaterial, [UoN]Sentinel
Immaterial (3): Grackaroni, Serejai, LightningStrike

I hadn't been leading the votes for half an hour, in which you posted numerous times. Don't give me that bullshit "I voted you because I thought you were still in the lead" even though you posted half a dozen times while I only had one vote on me.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 04 2014 22:40 GMT
#818
On November 05 2014 07:38 Elvis! wrote:
Serejai going even more full-retard:
"You've got my vote regardless of what happens"
so in 72 hours there is nothing that can change his mind.
This is about as un-townie and lying as you can get.


I'm sorry, did I strike a nerve by calling out your scum buddy batsnacks?
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 05 2014 12:32 GMT
#949
On November 05 2014 12:36 Elvis! wrote:Also you can't really fault batsnacks for not switching in these 3 minutes, since he was playing on a phone.


How are you overlooking the fact that he DID switch; only it was to me instead of Imma? You two are scum buddies.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 05 2014 13:53 GMT
#951
You can't include me on that list because I've scum read you since the start of the game.

It's also pretty amusing for me because I pegged you, Fecal, and Elvis as the scum team at the start of the game and now that you've made a scumslip by switching your vote to me instead of Imma at the last second the only two people defending you are...

Drumroll please...

Fecal and Elvis.

That being said, I'm starting to have doubts about Fecal. I'd actually wager the scum team is Batsnacks, Elvis, and Imma at this point in time, and that Fecal is just a clueless dolt that happens to be supporting them. You and Elvis, however, have shown your true colors with that lynching.

Elvis / Batsnacks 2014™
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 05 2014 14:06 GMT
#954
On November 05 2014 22:59 batsnacks wrote:
So... Are you or are you not scum reading me?

If you're scum reading me, then you're on the list of people scum reading me...


Your list was of people scum reading you because of your vote switch. I'm simply pointing out that you were scum long before that.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 05 2014 15:59 GMT
#961
On November 06 2014 00:23 Elvis! wrote:

Yes, he did change his vote, but as he already said, he didn't know the vote count at that time, since it's terrible finding something like this if there's like 10 posts per minute and you're on a phone.
Scumslips don't happen, don't try to force them


But as I already pointed out, he DID know the vote count.

Here is a post from BH:

On November 05 2014 05:09 Blazinghand wrote:
The deadline is in about 2 hours.


And here is the vote count at the same time:

On November 05 2014 05:14 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count

Serejai (3): kushm4sta, [UoN]Sentinel, Elvis!
[UoN]Sentinel (1): Superbia
batsnacks (1): LightningStrike
Lightningstrike (5): batsnacks, Serejai, KelsierSC, Breshke, FecalFeast

Not Voting (3): Immaterial, Cricketer12, Grackaroni

Currently, LightningStrike is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.


TWO HOURS. Let me spell that out for you again; I wasn't leading in votes for TWO ENTIRE HOURS.

And the excuse from batsnacks:

On November 05 2014 07:36 batsnacks wrote:
I post from phone, I didn't know what the vote count was, I switched it to you because I assumed incorrectly that you still had the most.


So he's claiming that he didn't realize the votes had changes in TWO FULL HOURS, even though he was posting in the thread the entire time and even changes his own vote multiple times in that two hours. And you're defending him?

Scum all the fucking way, good game.
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Serejai
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
6007 Posts
November 05 2014 17:02 GMT
#968
But I wasn't even second in votes; I only had a single vote on me for the last hour - Elvis.

Lightning was leading with Sentinel in second the entire time, until a few votes went on Immaterial to put him in second.

Here are some timestamps:

On November 05 2014 06:06 Blazinghand wrote:
Vote Count

Serejai (1): Elvis!
[UoN]Sentinel (3): Superbia, LightningStrike, kushm4sta
LightningStrike (7): batsnacks, Serejai, KelsierSC, Breshke, Immaterial, [UoN]Sentinel,FecalFeast

Not Voting (2): Cricketer12, Grackaroni

Currently, LightningStrike is set to be lynched. Day 1 ends in at 22:00 GMT (+00:00).

Reminder to make sure to unvote before voting, if you have already voted someone.

Remember, voting is Mandatory. You may NOT abstain.


So, at 6:06 I had one vote on me all the way until the end. batsnacks later changes his vote to me a minute before the voting. Between 6:06 and 6:59 - when I had basically no chance of being lynched - there were a total of 8 vote updates posted in the thread. Surely he saw at least ONE of those, in which case he would have known that either Sentinel or Immaterial were the other possible lynch choices.

I mean, I was using my phone as well but you didn't see me having any trouble keeping up with the thread. He knew damn well the votes had changed since I was last in the lead (two hours before EoD).

So, there are really two outcomes here; either batsnacks is scum or he's just a really terrible player. Who thinks it's the latter?
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