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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 02 2014 20:00 GMT
#1235
7 hours left, can we get some organization? For someone who made it this way, you're sure doing shit all to help us get a lynch damdred.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 02 2014 20:14 GMT
#1238
On November 03 2014 05:08 GlowingBear wrote:
Can we consolidate on damdred, then?


Not today, am willing to reconsider tomorrow. Claiming blue, verifying power, and going un-cc'd is enough to buy 1 day from me. The context in which he activated it is a little skethcy and the power itself doesn't really lean 1 way or the other to me. So basically I put him in my reconsider tomorrow pile.

I also hate everyone who is making these lynch lurker lists....all of them.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 02 2014 20:48 GMT
#1245
On November 03 2014 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 05:39 risk.nuke wrote:
If Viscera actually just activated a double lynch he's going to flip red.

Like seriously though, what about giving town an extra lynch is anti-town? I honestly have no idea where this comes from!


Well you would be giving it in the context of a day that is majority lynch, not plurality, which you already think is scummy. So you would be doubling someone else's scum. Making you double scum.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 02 2014 20:54 GMT
#1247
On November 03 2014 05:50 risk.nuke wrote:
How is it hilarious. I've already told you that I am following the thread. I didn't really see a point to popping up a couple of times to say I'm to busy to do much today.

Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 05:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 03 2014 05:39 risk.nuke wrote:
If Viscera actually just activated a double lynch he's going to flip red.

Like seriously though, what about giving town an extra lynch is anti-town? I honestly have no idea where this comes from!

The abillity was pro town. The way you used it was so not.


Then pop up a couple of time to tell me who is scum and 1 or 2 sentences as to why they are scum.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 00:27 GMT
#1381
i am busy with guests over, but trying to keep up loosely with the thread. don't like some of the late tagalongs onto this LT train, although I see some people defending him with 0 justification. can someone explain the justification for defending him?

LT just claimed acolyte of pain....but not his power....how are we supposed to judge you if you don't say your power??????? like title of character is not rly anything without flips....
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 01:08 GMT
#1405
I actually wouldn't mind a switch to circumstance, he is my 2nd favorite target. Currently there are numbers enough on LT and I would prefer not to have a no-lynch. Also, I don't buy the jester claim; why would acolyte of pain translate into jester? the power of take damage draw a card doesn't really align....idk.

I remember circumstance hard defended jrkirby early on for no reason. It was just really really odd and then he tried to play it off by saying "i didn't town read him, i just said i wasn't ready to call him mafia". Even though he was clearly hard defending. I remember in a previous game I tunneled chromatically all game for doing this VERY early in the game like circ did here and he was mafia.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 01:34 GMT
#1419
On November 03 2014 10:29 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2014 18:25 ritoky wrote:
Well, we are not in plurality lynch so we need to start getting organized and on someone before we get a shitty no-lynch no-flip.

As of right now my top lynch candidate is Lord Tolkein.

On October 31 2014 12:03 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Alright.

Holyflare=Starts with an H

Hunter=Starts with an H

ergo, Holyflare is a Hunter.

And I presume my confirm went through only because Hunters were to be labeled scum so...

#Vote Holyflare


Here is him joking with his first post. Make a note of how this is on the first page of his filter and the time and date. He proceeds this way for a vast majority of the phase. Making snarky remarks, offering no insight, commenting on nothing relevant, and doing nothing to find scum. Then he posts this:

On November 01 2014 16:54 Lord Tolkien wrote:
alright, back from long series of cancer inhouses


wheeeeeeee~


I'm tired and actually want to sleep, but I SUPPOSE I should help lead town to victory.

...when I'm not about to pass out.


First,

I really want to analyze JB. But whatever town wants, I guess. I'll consolidate because I'm a conformist and not mafia trying to waste muh votes.

Two,

Misder, I find it very enlightening to see how people reacted to my blatant trolling. Very enlightening indeed. It's how I garner early reads: looking at the wagons that always form on me D1. :D

Plus no one ever lynches me D1, so why should I be concerned.


Three,

Holyflare, VE, and GlowingBear are probably town. Compare the cancer mafia Glowing to current Glowing. Much more wililng to take a stance and much less passive. Will peg him as town for now. Would also sort of like to say OWS is slightly leaning town, but much less to go on.

I've heard people say that Oats is hard to read, but idk, he's leaning town in my reading.

Everyone else are scummerdawgs, or I can't read them based on past experience. Id actually have to, like, put in effort and nitpick their filters.


Four,

as much lulz and hilarity BHs RNG lynch turned out in FFL mini-mafia, I'm not quite ready to take one on yet. At least, not when I've good a semi-decent read on Glowing. Won't vote for what I suspect is a sure mislynch.

Also again, lynching (one of?) the most active player is lelelelel


Five,

Zzzzz, Giving risk.nuke some time to do his IRL shit. But if he dont post D2, we post lynch him then. If we lurker lynch someone, we should totes lynch Monte Seuss lel.


jrkirby: who are you mafia reads? You made it clear that I'm only your vote because you want me to post stuff and not troll.

I'll post moar, but can't promise not trolling on occasion. But in any event, you've given no real stance on possible mafia, instead sheeping onto a silly RNG vote.


I'll be awake sometime before ~12PM EDT to carry town to victoryyyyyyy.

For now,

#Vote Seuss

But i'll consolidate when the time cums


Part 1:
Wants to analyze JB, congratulations you have arrived at the conclusion that nearly half the players in the game had already arrived at much later than them.

Part 2:
Summary: I troll lelelelelelel, no1 lynches me d1.
Answer: We'll see about that shit.

Part 3:
Finally nearly 36 hrs into the game we have the first portion of content available to us. And what is it? After 35 pages of content it is a bunch of unsubstantiated reads. Now personally, I think the case for GB and HF as town had been made and didn't need re-stating; but what the hell is this VE and OBS read? Airballs and no explanation behind them at all. Especially OWS, what had OWS done up to page 35 that had made him town in any way? It is beyond me.

Part 4: Lol BH RNG. Ty for this insight, glad we waited for it.

Part 5: Lynch lurkers guys! Cuz this strategy on day 1 always goes over well with me. But outside of that, it is an easy thing to simply default to and say instead of giving legitimate scum reads.

So essentially he gave us 2 redundant town reads, 2 unexplained town reads, and told us to lynch lurkers; after 36 hrs of play and 35 pages of content. Shows a lack of investment in the thread and he doesn't even try to push his scum reads toward a lynch, just lays them limp in the thread.

On November 01 2014 16:55 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Hmm, no, I like that new post.

#Unvote Seuss


He then immediately unvotes his lurker 1 lurker lynch who had temporarily stopped lurking and proceeds down the path toward the other lurker.

Then we get to the part that I simply cannot understand. He attempts to explain his town read on OWS and how he agreed with OWS's town read on Damdred BEFORE Damdred had claimed. At least in OWS's case it is his original thought. It is a very bad thought, but I see no reason why LT is latching onto it.

On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On November 02 2014 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
L, what you think of OWD

If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.

His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.

On November 01 2014 14:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
The dichotomy between lian/Circumstance is something I'm looking at. I really don't like how lian nitpicks at one of Circumstance's posts and then turns around and then says "hey, it reminds me of when I was new."

When you're new, you end up leaving a ton of holes in your game that people can pick at, which is what I've seen in Circumstance's play. (not having enough scumreads, putting quite a bit of emphasis on setup, etc)

You'd think that would mean you would put more effort into figuring that player out instead of just pushing a tiny thing like that, but I guess lian doesn't feel like doing that. I find it strange.

On November 01 2014 13:51 liancourt wrote:
misder is my top scum atm reasons are in my previous post

dont think he's posted anything since then.


Where do you stand on Circumstance?

Also, the analysis thing on Jay is a waste of time because he's town. I'm not going to elaborate on this because the cat is going to explain it for you. On the off chance that the cat is actually controlled by 3p or mafia, I can compare my read to whatever it gives us and see if it's actually a town entity or not by seeing if it agrees with me.

##Analyze: JB

I kind of realized that I contradicted myself in that paragraph, but w/e it's fine don't think about it.


On November 02 2014 10:39 ritoky wrote:
so you don't think it was weird that he was defending damdred and calling him innocent before he even claimed? then why do you think damdred is town outside of his blue claim?



On November 02 2014 10:56 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Reread your question:

I do think Damdred is townish, One: because while yes, it's now a majority lynch, town should be perfectly able to consolidate with another 24 hours, and quite frankly, the extra 24 hours are much more important for town.

In any event, what point would mafia Damdred have to gain by breadcrumbing and revealing himself? It just puts him under scrutiny here.


My read of his filter is unremarkable, outside his strong townread on jay. Which I find lulzy.


On November 02 2014 11:02 ritoky wrote:
I don't think you get what I am saying. I am saying prior to Damdred claiming, OWS was defending him as town; which I cannot personally see a reason for. The questions of him and the pressure was from a legitimate angle.

You then say this:

On November 02 2014 10:20 Lord Tolkien wrote:
If you mean me, he leans town based on muh gut.

His filter is reasonable in my read, nothing scummy stands out, and personally, I like this post.



Which means that you find it reasonable that he was defending damdred and calling him town before he claimed; implying you agreed with his assessment. I want to know why? Cuz it sure as shit makes no sense to me.


On November 02 2014 11:01 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Hard to describe. If you go through his filter, he clearly has a thought process, and is asking town-focused questions.

He's got appropriate skepticism.


On November 02 2014 11:03 ritoky wrote:
I don't really buy this. Thank you for a vague, unsubstantiated, unsupported opinion that took you 3 seconds to make up. Scum pile.


tl;dr: He believes everything in OWS's filter is reasonable including OWS calling Damdred town before Damdred claimed or posted his notes in the thread. I pressure him to see why he believes that is a reasonable thing, and he basically says "gut read". Really 45 pages of content and "gut read". Plus the response is so generic and contrived; it is hard to believe he even believes it.

This guy did nothing to help town or be involved in town for 36 hrs, then he gave crap reads and not even a lot of them; did more nothing, then does this unbelievable air-ball stuff surrounding OWS calling Damdred town for inexplicable reasons. He is scum kill with fire.


##Vote: Lord Tolkien


am i right in believing that u think lt is scummy because he defended obi while obi was defending damdred?



apparently you only read the 2nd half of that post. try reading again. he is uninvolved, uninvested, did nothing, when he did something it was utter shite, then he agrees with OWS's read which was crap; he is asked to justify it and basically says "gut read".
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 02:26 GMT
#1485
wtf is this guy doing????????

also wtf is that claim??????????????
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 02:28 GMT
#1487
LT why did you claim acolyte of pain?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 02:30 GMT
#1494
On November 03 2014 11:29 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 11:28 ritoky wrote:
LT why did you claim acolyte of pain?

to not claim medic and presumably die N1


if you goal was to not get lynched, why the hell did you sit around provoking more votes onto yourself. like your play makes 0 sense.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 02:47 GMT
#1539
If you're willing to lynch circumstance instead, type

##WILLVOTE: CIRCUMSTANCE IN THREAD

##WILLVOTE: CIRCUMSTANCE
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 02:47 GMT
#1541
ORGANIZE QUICKLY
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 03:11 GMT
#1584
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ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 04:30 GMT
#1638
On November 03 2014 07:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:
People I currently peg as solid town,

HF: can never read him
riotsky: i am sheep and HF is muh welsh shepherd (also other reasons that i dont need to go over)
VE: double-lynch is always pro town, and my town read on him hasn't changed
GB: meeeeeeta read, also he's not playing passive scummerdoge game
Slam: his "theory" makes me peg him as donkey town lel


On November 01 2014 16:54 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Three,

Holyflare, VE, and GlowingBear are probably town. Compare the cancer mafia Glowing to current Glowing. Much more wililng to take a stance and much less passive. Will peg him as town for now. Would also sort of like to say OWS is slightly leaning town, but much less to go on.

I've heard people say that Oats is hard to read, but idk, he's leaning town in my reading.



These are the town reads that LT gave in the thread, to condense them into list form it is:
- ritoky
- HF
- VE
- GB
- Slam
- OWS
- Oats

I find it unlikely that LT went 100% bus mode and didn't town read a SINGLE of his partners, so there is likely at least 1 mafia in that list. I would like people to look at the list and pick out the most likely mafia from that list and why.

Those people voted on:
- ritoky - LT
- HF - LT
- VE - LT
- GB - Circ
- Slam - LT
- OWS - LT (ended up on Lian)
- Oats - LT (ended up on damdred)
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 04:37 GMT
#1640
On November 03 2014 13:33 Alakaslam wrote:
My theory is still right you know ritoky


which theory you have a lot of them, including HIJOLE theory
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 05:20 GMT
#1646
On November 03 2014 14:14 Alakaslam wrote:
My theory on you, risk, LT, and some other dude I forgot


you should read my filter if you think there's any possibility i am with LT and realize it was my giant case that started the wagon. but then again i did mega-bus koshi into the ground in the only mafia game i have played on these forums...sooo...i guess meta-defending myself is pointless. i just don't see the point about making a deal about risk. guy says he is moving, will deliver day 2. if he does, consider what he says; if he doesn't lynch him by default. it's not that complicated of a process and those advocating it over the LT lynch might want to be looked into.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 05:44 GMT
#1652
On November 03 2014 14:29 Alakaslam wrote:
Why did you defend risk nuke then


firstly, when did i defend risk? the only time i can really remember is when VE made a crappy accusation against him that was crappy. and that was moreso to get GB and VE to stop bickering cuz at the time I felt they were both town.

second, i had irl stuff going on the last game i played so i have some sympathy for a guy who openly claimed irl stuff.

thirdly, as i said before: he promises to deliver d2, if he does then i will evaluate what he says then. if he doesn't i will lynch his ass by default. seems pretty simple to me.

fourth, i just made the case that pushed the lynch on mafia, what did you do?
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 05:48 GMT
#1653
@VE: Would like your response to this:

On November 03 2014 13:30 ritoky wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 07:13 Lord Tolkien wrote:
People I currently peg as solid town,

HF: can never read him
riotsky: i am sheep and HF is muh welsh shepherd (also other reasons that i dont need to go over)
VE: double-lynch is always pro town, and my town read on him hasn't changed
GB: meeeeeeta read, also he's not playing passive scummerdoge game
Slam: his "theory" makes me peg him as donkey town lel


Show nested quote +
On November 01 2014 16:54 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Three,

Holyflare, VE, and GlowingBear are probably town. Compare the cancer mafia Glowing to current Glowing. Much more wililng to take a stance and much less passive. Will peg him as town for now. Would also sort of like to say OWS is slightly leaning town, but much less to go on.

I've heard people say that Oats is hard to read, but idk, he's leaning town in my reading.



These are the town reads that LT gave in the thread, to condense them into list form it is:
- ritoky
- HF
- VE
- GB
- Slam
- OWS
- Oats

I find it unlikely that LT went 100% bus mode and didn't town read a SINGLE of his partners, so there is likely at least 1 mafia in that list. I would like people to look at the list and pick out the most likely mafia from that list and why.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 07:19 GMT
#1664
On November 03 2014 16:10 jaybrundage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2014 16:08 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On November 03 2014 16:03 jaybrundage wrote:
On November 03 2014 13:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If you have an information role, check VE.

If you're a vig, consider shooting him maybe.

I don't like his filter at all.

Telling blue roles what to do is so dumb. The funny part is its also self defeating. What you say will be less likely to happen as scum can see it too and would know who to protect. So blue is less likely to do what you want.

Just let them do there thing and hope everyone uses common sense.


Alternatively you can shoot this guy because he is alive.

? No idea what your talking about here.


he is suggesting a vigi shoot you or VE. so either he believes you were bussing LT since about 8 hrs into the game, or i have no idea what this guy is on about.
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
ritoky
Profile Joined March 2011
United States6851 Posts
November 03 2014 21:55 GMT
#1713
On November 04 2014 06:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't fucking lie. Read my posts already holy fuck.


"I am gonna read LT's filter"

"I read his filter, I don't think there's anything overtly scummy"

"I don't like lynching LT, the only reason I would do it is for consolidation"

"I totally scumread LT"

??????????????????? how is this not a lie?????????
“When interest is at variance with conscience, any distinction to make them friends will serve the hollow-hearted.” -Henry Home
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