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justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 25 2014 23:30 GMT
#1671
On October 26 2014 08:27 DrParnassus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 06:48 liancourt wrote:
i'm seeing bats and hf as town. Don't know why ppl are voting them. bats defended me when i was getting accused and so did hf. I don't see a reason why scum would defend a townie when they can just leave things and it let it flow.


that's what you'e talking about right? how a townie should be suspicious of people defending him? I agree that that is odd behavior, and I think his followup here is just as odd:

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On October 25 2014 06:54 liancourt wrote:
On October 25 2014 06:51 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 25 2014 06:48 liancourt wrote:
i'm seeing bats and hf as town. Don't know why ppl are voting them. bats defended me when i was getting accused and so did hf. I don't see a reason why scum would defend a townie when they can just leave things and it let it flow.

That's a horrible reason to townread someone.


they are my subjective opinions lol


it's very unusual for someone to have an opinion and be willing to admit that their opinion might be stupid

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On October 26 2014 00:05 liancourt wrote:
On October 25 2014 23:55 Damdred wrote:
Then make a case on ff GB I'm not paying attention to him until much later..

I just don't see scumsnacks going like that on ff and ff lynching bs, especially when others could of been lynched


the consensus drastically changed 2 hrs before deadline. it was all thrawn thrawn then bam kush comes in and then bam thrawn comes in and make a pretty good case on bats.


Now this is pretty big.

Lian demonstrates excellent knowledge of events leading up to the lynch. He says that "thrawn comes in and makes a pretty good case on bats."

But lian kept his vote on ff and said nothing about bats after I wrote what he later said was a "pretty good case." He was in the thread at the exact moment I posted that case, at the time where the lynch might have swung in several directions. Yet he did nothing for the rest of the cycle.

See. That's why he is in my scumlist and I really don't think batsnacks filter clears him.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 25 2014 23:32 GMT
#1674
On October 26 2014 08:31 DrParnassus wrote:
And to hide the fact that he wasn;t going to do anything for the rest of the cycle he makes excuses like this

Show nested quote +
On October 25 2014 09:51 liancourt wrote:
the rate i'm reading and the rate these posts are incoming is incredible i'm always 2 pages behind holy moly deadline's gonnna be interesting


Not to mention than you would have to be an incredibly slow reader for that to be true.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 00:04 GMT
#1682
On October 26 2014 08:40 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 06:34 kushm4sta wrote:
@superbia, please give thoughts on rayne and alakaslam.


Some fucking mindmeld shit going on here. I actually would prefer to lynch both at some point in time. Slam just posts confusing (albeit funny) shit. Rayn posts bad one-liners and WIFOM shit. Slam gets townread by some people for essentially no reason. Rayn gets townread because of his "bad reads". Gut says rayn feels somewhat more scummy than slam, but that's probably because slam is amusing. They are mainly just question marks to me, and the game would be better without them.

Rayn gets townread? That's news to me.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 00:09 GMT
#1684
On October 26 2014 09:08 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 07:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 07:05 kushm4sta wrote:
jat, what moves alaka from probably to maybe?

I see no particular reason for him being scum. He is still in line with his recent towngames and he was on batsnacks pretty early. Do you have any good reasons to think he is mafia?

Also again, why is marv probably not scum?


No slam was on bats early as a joke in that mafai incident. I wouldnt really call that being on someone.

That's not what I was talking about and I think that should be pretty obvious.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 00:32 GMT
#1688
Super are you completely caught up?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 00:34 GMT
#1690
Do you seriously expect me to believe that a townie that just replaced in and read the game after a fucking scumlynch posts his thoughts and they are completely devoid of any analysis that has anything to do with the lynch?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 00:37 GMT
#1692
On October 26 2014 09:35 Superbia wrote:
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On October 26 2014 09:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Do you seriously expect me to believe that a townie that just replaced in and read the game after a fucking scumlynch posts his thoughts and they are completely devoid of any analysis that has anything to do with the lynch?


Nice loaded question.

I know right? You are reading people for extremely minor things but there isn't a single one that is even related to the lynch. That's mindboggling.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 00:40 GMT
#1694
On October 26 2014 09:37 Superbia wrote:
If I had gotten anything out of the interaction between bats and someone I would've included it in my reads. Honestly I feel like it's still pretty WIFOM at this point.

The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 00:45 GMT
#1696
On October 26 2014 09:43 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:37 Superbia wrote:
If I had gotten anything out of the interaction between bats and someone I would've included it in my reads. Honestly I feel like it's still pretty WIFOM at this point.

The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude.


Tell me what did you get from that source.

I already posted plenty about that. Examples: I got from that that FF is probably not scum, that lian and damdred are pretty scummy, that you could be scum because you were the only one going against the lynch. That thrawn is probably town. Etc. etc.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 00:47 GMT
#1698
Do you think that everything that happened leading up to the lynch is completely WIFOM GB?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 00:49 GMT
#1699
On October 26 2014 09:46 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:37 Superbia wrote:
If I had gotten anything out of the interaction between bats and someone I would've included it in my reads. Honestly I feel like it's still pretty WIFOM at this point.

The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude.


Here's the thing. I did interpret the actions of most people who were actually pushing and voting on batsnacks, I simply did not draw any conclusion. HF had an early push/vote on batsnacks which he barely followed up on, which I mentioned. Kush had a push post on snacks (iirc), but it wouldn't have swayed me at that point in time. Someone (I think it was parnassus or lian) brought up a decent quote about batsnacks assuming someone being town, but I felt it might've well been bus time at that point in time. I.e. nothing definitive.

So you are saying that this lynch just simply happened somehow? The people who were pushing it aren't town for it? Scum was totally ok with this lynch?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 00:50 GMT
#1700
This is utter bullshit.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 00:55 GMT
#1702
On October 26 2014 09:53 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:46 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:37 Superbia wrote:
If I had gotten anything out of the interaction between bats and someone I would've included it in my reads. Honestly I feel like it's still pretty WIFOM at this point.

The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude.


Here's the thing. I did interpret the actions of most people who were actually pushing and voting on batsnacks, I simply did not draw any conclusion. HF had an early push/vote on batsnacks which he barely followed up on, which I mentioned. Kush had a push post on snacks (iirc), but it wouldn't have swayed me at that point in time. Someone (I think it was parnassus or lian) brought up a decent quote about batsnacks assuming someone being town, but I felt it might've well been bus time at that point in time. I.e. nothing definitive.

So you are saying that this lynch just simply happened somehow? The people who were pushing it aren't town for it? Scum was totally ok with this lynch?


From the mafia games I've read, bussing a team mate d1 is not even that rare. Is KP is even reduced?

No, it isn't. But even if there are people bussing they are not doing this because it is so fun to bus someone. They are doing it because they don't see any other choice. If you think a bus happened you try and find the people that you think acted like they could be bussing. You don't simply ignore the lynch.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 00:59 GMT
#1705
On October 26 2014 09:55 Superbia wrote:
Like you're expecting me to draw lines in the sand in a game I haven't even played in yet based on a lynch I haven't participated in. I read the thread, I didn't get anything I feel is alignment indicative from the people pushing on batsnacks or whatever.

I don't expect you to draw any lines in the sand. But if I am replacing in a game n1 as town the first thing I do besides reading the thread is analysing the lynch. ESPECIALLY if it is a scumlynch. I don't have a problem if you have reads that aren't completely dependent on the lynch but you have shown ZERO thoughts about it and that is really worrying.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 01:01 GMT
#1706
On October 26 2014 09:57 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:53 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:46 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:37 Superbia wrote:
If I had gotten anything out of the interaction between bats and someone I would've included it in my reads. Honestly I feel like it's still pretty WIFOM at this point.

The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude.


Here's the thing. I did interpret the actions of most people who were actually pushing and voting on batsnacks, I simply did not draw any conclusion. HF had an early push/vote on batsnacks which he barely followed up on, which I mentioned. Kush had a push post on snacks (iirc), but it wouldn't have swayed me at that point in time. Someone (I think it was parnassus or lian) brought up a decent quote about batsnacks assuming someone being town, but I felt it might've well been bus time at that point in time. I.e. nothing definitive.

So you are saying that this lynch just simply happened somehow? The people who were pushing it aren't town for it? Scum was totally ok with this lynch?


From the mafia games I've read, bussing a team mate d1 is not even that rare. Is KP is even reduced?

No, it isn't. But even if there are people bussing they are not doing this because it is so fun to bus someone. They are doing it because they don't see any other choice. If you think a bus happened you try and find the people that you think acted like they could be bussing. You don't simply ignore the lynch.


You are assuming that there is never a world in which mafia would actively bus a team mate d1.

Reading comprehension = non existent.
I didn't say anything like that.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 01:02 GMT
#1708
On October 26 2014 10:01 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 09:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Do you think that everything that happened leading up to the lynch is completely WIFOM GB?


Of course not. But I wanted to know what have you directly got from it.

In that case you should read the game. Or if you are the forgetful type my filter.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 01:08 GMT
#1711
On October 26 2014 10:05 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 10:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:57 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:53 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:46 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:37 Superbia wrote:
If I had gotten anything out of the interaction between bats and someone I would've included it in my reads. Honestly I feel like it's still pretty WIFOM at this point.

The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude.


Here's the thing. I did interpret the actions of most people who were actually pushing and voting on batsnacks, I simply did not draw any conclusion. HF had an early push/vote on batsnacks which he barely followed up on, which I mentioned. Kush had a push post on snacks (iirc), but it wouldn't have swayed me at that point in time. Someone (I think it was parnassus or lian) brought up a decent quote about batsnacks assuming someone being town, but I felt it might've well been bus time at that point in time. I.e. nothing definitive.

So you are saying that this lynch just simply happened somehow? The people who were pushing it aren't town for it? Scum was totally ok with this lynch?


From the mafia games I've read, bussing a team mate d1 is not even that rare. Is KP is even reduced?

No, it isn't. But even if there are people bussing they are not doing this because it is so fun to bus someone. They are doing it because they don't see any other choice. If you think a bus happened you try and find the people that you think acted like they could be bussing. You don't simply ignore the lynch.


You are assuming that there is never a world in which mafia would actively bus a team mate d1.

Reading comprehension = non existent.
I didn't say anything like that.


I'm talking about taking the initiative in lynching (a team mate).

Yeah, and I am telling you that I didn't say anything like that. Of course that is possible. But nobody goes into day1 with the plan "we are bussing today". They might bus. They might even actively bus. But they don't really want to bus.
And all of that is besides the point anyways. Like I already said EVEN IF YOU THINK IT IS A BUS YOU STILL ANALYSE THE LYNCH.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 01:10 GMT
#1712
On October 26 2014 10:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 10:02 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 10:01 GlowingBear wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:47 justanothertownie wrote:
Do you think that everything that happened leading up to the lynch is completely WIFOM GB?


Of course not. But I wanted to know what have you directly got from it.

In that case you should read the game. Or if you are the forgetful type my filter.


JAT, I like to get people talking and I know what you have being writing. I don't think it's harmful to ask that question and get the answer you gave me.

Also, what Superbia said about HF is okay. He wasn't really pushing batsnacks that hard. The lynch was only heading to batsnacks when we started talking about him, specially after I've brought he fanfic meta.

You only brought that up after I told you to look at his meta mind you. And if you are trying to get people to talk - why are you doing that to the most active poster in the game? Why are you questioning me and not super? Or thrawn? Or literally anyone else?
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 01:17 GMT
#1714
On October 26 2014 10:14 Superbia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2014 10:08 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 10:05 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 10:01 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:57 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:55 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:53 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:49 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:46 Superbia wrote:
On October 26 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:
[quote]
The only available source of actual hard information is WIFOM to you? You did not even try to interpret the actions of anyone. Wtf dude.


Here's the thing. I did interpret the actions of most people who were actually pushing and voting on batsnacks, I simply did not draw any conclusion. HF had an early push/vote on batsnacks which he barely followed up on, which I mentioned. Kush had a push post on snacks (iirc), but it wouldn't have swayed me at that point in time. Someone (I think it was parnassus or lian) brought up a decent quote about batsnacks assuming someone being town, but I felt it might've well been bus time at that point in time. I.e. nothing definitive.

So you are saying that this lynch just simply happened somehow? The people who were pushing it aren't town for it? Scum was totally ok with this lynch?


From the mafia games I've read, bussing a team mate d1 is not even that rare. Is KP is even reduced?

No, it isn't. But even if there are people bussing they are not doing this because it is so fun to bus someone. They are doing it because they don't see any other choice. If you think a bus happened you try and find the people that you think acted like they could be bussing. You don't simply ignore the lynch.


You are assuming that there is never a world in which mafia would actively bus a team mate d1.

Reading comprehension = non existent.
I didn't say anything like that.


I'm talking about taking the initiative in lynching (a team mate).

Yeah, and I am telling you that I didn't say anything like that. Of course that is possible. But nobody goes into day1 with the plan "we are bussing today". They might bus. They might even actively bus. But they don't really want to bus.
And all of that is besides the point anyways. Like I already said EVEN IF YOU THINK IT IS A BUS YOU STILL ANALYSE THE LYNCH.


I read that the meta used to be to do this every single game.
But whatever. I've given my thoughts on the lynch before. I didn't draw any direct conclusions from it at this point in time. That's it. If you have any more questions, shoot, I'm going to sleep soon.

Where did you read that bullshit? And yeah I will soon go to bed too.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16326 Posts
October 26 2014 01:22 GMT
#1717
On October 26 2014 10:18 DrParnassus wrote:
I think superbia's post was fine for a replacement. JAT I think youu're suspicious of him because he's not playing the game the way you would in his position. His comment about my post pissing him off seemed townie, townies get mad and/or suspicious at posts like the one I made.

Not in my experience. I have no idea why anyone would get mad over that post.
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