Yeah in my mind this is a scum victory. Town could have won but that chance went away when Marv posted his role pm. Although Marvs decision to concede was unilateral, unsportsmanlike and against the rules, and although until he did so town had a chance, it was very likely scum would win. The fact that the have was a lurk fest doesn't change who the likely victor was.

Everything about this end is unsatisfying. It's not the host's fault though

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

November 06 2014 02:19 GMT

#1143

On November 06 2014 10:42 yamato77 wrote:
Yeah but this game is a joke, it's a joke to say anyone "won" anything.

I won.
Like in life.
And all that.

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

November 06 2014 02:20 GMT

#1144

Also if you want to go by mission results.
2:1.

Alakaslam

United States17336 Posts

November 06 2014 04:32 GMT

#1145

Palmar made one incredible play; insta confirmed liancourt town.

He made me extremely suspicious of Lian the rest of the game, and I was paranoid from there.

Marv agreeing on Lian with very little need for convincing therefore made me suspicious of marv.

Hijole

Holyflare

United Kingdom30774 Posts

November 06 2014 06:47 GMT

#1146

This thread was painful to look at

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

November 06 2014 08:19 GMT

#1147

Mafia won this game. Marv was 100% merlin. That's actually what I meant with "Oh, I get it". I had suspected it since day 1, and that was the moment I confirmed my suspicions in my mind.

There is no way I'm agreeing this was a draw.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

November 06 2014 08:22 GMT

#1148

Like his post where he said "I need to confirm shit out of these three people" was so damning towards him being merlin. Also his constantly meh stance on me. He never flat out called me mafia, and never gave me a townread either. I always had the vibe of "he's not sure that he should be scumreading me, but obviously he is because he knows I'm mafia".

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

November 06 2014 08:25 GMT

#1149

Blazinghand was so town this game. I very much regretted calling bats and lian town so early because BH stuck so out with his reads that they were almost impossible to come from mafia.

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

November 06 2014 08:31 GMT

#1150

On November 06 2014 10:42 yamato77 wrote:
Yeah but this game is a joke, it's a joke to say anyone "won" anything.

This is very unfair. We did what we had to do. Town has to control the pace of the game, if they present me with a relatively inactive game with little going on, I'm going to take it.

We had mafia on so many suggested teams, there was some distance between Oats and I. Damdred/Hf/Kelsier obviously didn't deliver at all (they could've easily sealed the day 5 if Damdred played at all).

Also I'm sad no one picked up on this!

On November 02 2014 01:26 Palmar wrote:
I'm going to pick my team as stated. Seeing as it will autopass I guess it's on my head. All I can hope for is that I was correct on my reads. Batsnacks is my 2nd strongest townread after lian, the one I'm worried about is marv. Of course I could be wrong, but meh. To be honest I don't care all that much at this point. At least I've been consistent in my reads since day 1, and I think I agree with myself. Given the fact that I am super smart, it makes sense to agree with myself. Even if this fails we still have a decent shot, as long as people don't randomly paint me mafia if this one fails (although I kinda did that to oats, but he deserved it).

Ultimate trap. Such plays!

Palmar

Iceland22633 Posts

November 06 2014 08:48 GMT

#1151

Also, this activity isn't pathetic at all. Or well, the posting count isn't pathetic. It's far worse that no one actually went and looked at things and built cases. There is more than enough content to win this game in the thread. Blazinghand was just about the only person even remotely interested in building any kind of a case or bringing evidence to support his observations. So yes, the activity was pathetic, but it wasn't because of postcount, it was because of lack of content.

Blazinghand

United States25551 Posts

November 06 2014 08:57 GMT

#1152

Yeah activity was fine, it was how people used their time.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

November 06 2014 09:46 GMT

#1153

On November 06 2014 10:44 Blazinghand wrote:
This is my fault for not carrying town. By not stepping forward into the leadership role that only I am suited for, and by playing a following game, I let you all down. I let my faith in RNG and myself waver. I'll do better next time.

no, it's your fault for not following me like a good little doggy. ^_^

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

November 06 2014 09:48 GMT

#1154

On November 06 2014 17:19 Palmar wrote:
Mafia won this game. Marv was 100% merlin. That's actually what I meant with "Oh, I get it". I had suspected it since day 1, and that was the moment I confirmed my suspicions in my mind.

There is no way I'm agreeing this was a draw.

I really didn't know how to not be obviously Merlin but also try to get town on the right track either, given no other townie had a clue who was a spy, apparently. Tough one :/

Oatsmaster

United States16628 Posts

November 06 2014 09:49 GMT

#1155

On November 06 2014 18:48 marvellosity wrote:

Show nested quote +

I really didn't know how to not be obviously Merlin but also try to get town on the right track either, given no other townie had a clue who was a spy, apparently. Tough one :/

well at some point you gotta just tell them and risk the shot.

I mean, if you dont even win the mission phase, scum dont have to know who is merlin.

Its an interesting balance.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

November 06 2014 09:50 GMT

#1156

On November 06 2014 13:32 Alakaslam wrote:
Palmar made one incredible play; insta confirmed liancourt town.

He made me extremely suspicious of Lian the rest of the game, and I was paranoid from there.

Marv agreeing on Lian with very little need for convincing therefore made me suspicious of marv.

Hijole

why??? this is silly. If a mafia calls a person obvious town, they are almost always obvious town.

If a town does so, especially a strong townie, they're likely to be correct as well.

In almost all scenarios (combinations of me/palmar being town/mafia etc), lian is simply town...

Blazinghand

United States25551 Posts

November 06 2014 09:50 GMT

#1157

On November 06 2014 18:46 marvellosity wrote:

Show nested quote +

no, it's your fault for not following me like a good little doggy. ^_^

As the only SSS-Rank talented player on the town side, it was my job to solo win the game.

marvellosity

United Kingdom36161 Posts

November 06 2014 09:55 GMT

#1158

and yes, Palmar, as VT I would have gone ham on you for your fucking bizarre attitude towards me from the get go.

Blazinghand

United States25551 Posts

November 06 2014 09:56 GMT

#1159

On November 06 2014 18:55 marvellosity wrote:
and yes, Palmar, as VT I would have gone ham on you for your fucking bizarre attitude towards me from the get go.

fwiw your play was so different as Merlin that even I noticed, and I wasn't even looking for Merlin. I misinterpreted your strangeness as scumminess but them's the shakes. In a sense, we had lost regardless since even if we won you were the clear merlin. especially after your D1 team suggestion