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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 16 2014 16:25 GMT
#1841
Any real analysis/question answering from me will not come for several more hours.

What I will say for now - the points Req raises are not as bad as you make them out to be Wave. For someone who seriously fucked up D2, you should not get a free pass to:

On October 17 2014 01:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Req, flat out ignoring that post.
Sorry buddeh.

Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 16:28 GMT
#1842
Well too bad because I'm not going to try to convince a guy who has tunnel vision ed me since the start of the game. I tried to do it with logic days ago and that didn't work, it's certainly not going to work now and a waste of time and will just serve to piss me off. Req doesn't believe in the way mafia is supposed to be played, he scoffs when people try to help and give him advice and he does what he wants. You're welcome to cater to him because I've done it long enough.

I'm going to be ignoring req until he gives me reason not to, and garnering votes against me tomorrow won't do it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 16:33 GMT
#1843
On October 17 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well too bad because I'm not going to try to convince a guy who has tunnel vision ed me since the start of the game. I tried to do it with logic days ago and that didn't work, it's certainly not going to work now and a waste of time and will just serve to piss me off. Req doesn't believe in the way mafia is supposed to be played, he scoffs when people try to help and give him advice and he does what he wants. You're welcome to cater to him because I've done it long enough.

I'm going to be ignoring req until he gives me reason not to, and garnering votes against me tomorrow won't do it.

You've never tried to use logic against me. I brought up points against you Day 1. Admittedly they were thin, but so were EVERYONE's points because it was Day 1. You basically just said "I know how to play the game, you don't" and then pointed me at Lord Tolkien.

You're right, I don't "believe in the way mafia is supposed to be played" because the second you fall into the same rut of playing a game, the easier it is to game. If I follow people's advice to the point that I don't listen to my own instincts, then I'm not playing the game. I'm just being a sheep, and you were so derisive of anyone sheeping earlier.

At this point you're just getting pissed because I'm continuing to find things in your play that I think are dodgy - many of which have not been talked about by anyone yet. Just because I'm the only person following you does not make these points any less worth discussing, and if you are too stubborn to not talk about them, I'll be too stubborn to not stop talking about them.

Plugging your ears does not make you look innocent.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 16 2014 16:40 GMT
#1844
On October 17 2014 01:00 mordek wrote:
He's been doing a great job of convincing me of town since the lynch-train but he may just be throwing out any line he can think of that makes him seem innocent. I mean he did request to get parity checked. This is getting into WIFOM though right? I'd still keep him in the watch list.


That request is meaningless since if he's scum he can ensure that Soniv dies or is roleblocked.
I am the Town Medic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 16:43 GMT
#1845
OK soniv I'm willing to compromise a little;if you think reps case is so good, bring the points to be you think are worth me addressing and I'll to it. You can champion his case if you think I'm scummy too. The point is I don't want to turn this into the req v wave show and I know arguing with him is completely futile. I deal with people like this all the time in mafia.

Remember a guy called raynpelikoneet? If you don't, look up a couple of his games. He can be a good player but sometimes he flips the fuck out for no reason or tunnel vision insanely hard all game against a person of his choosing. I've been that person a couple times before and nothing I ever say or do convinces him other wise despite his grilling. It's incredibly time consuming, frustrating, demoralizing, and most of all useless. I will not be dealing with that this game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 16 2014 16:45 GMT
#1846
it's really funny reading that after being the target of your tunneling
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 16:46 GMT
#1847
On October 17 2014 01:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
it's really funny reading that after being the target of your tunneling

Careful or you might get ignored too.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 16:47 GMT
#1848
Sorry that was a little petty of me, shitposting should stay in OT.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 16:47 GMT
#1849
If I could edit it off I would.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 16:48 GMT
#1850
I know, right?
Difference being
A) I haven't done it all game
B) I'm constantly willing to reevaluate and constantly do
C) I'm nowhere near on the same stubbornness level as req. You know that.
D) I don't have a claim to fall back on

Your call dude, I've made my position clear. If I played like shit yesterday it doesn't mean you have to do the same.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 16:53 GMT
#1851
On October 17 2014 01:40 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 01:00 mordek wrote:
He's been doing a great job of convincing me of town since the lynch-train but he may just be throwing out any line he can think of that makes him seem innocent. I mean he did request to get parity checked. This is getting into WIFOM though right? I'd still keep him in the watch list.


That request is meaningless since if he's scum he can ensure that Soniv dies or is roleblocked.

Well... there's a bit more to it than that, but that's the gist of it. Alz or Soinv will likely die tonight, I think.

But who knows? Maybe there's a plan that requires leaving them alive.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 16 2014 17:04 GMT
#1852
Poisoner: maybe you've already thought of this, but consider taking that antidote yourself. There's a possible two poisons out there with unknown targets (I hope you chose your own target well), and the only people you can be sure are Town are yourself and Cixah, who wouldn't have been poisoned.
I am the Town Medic.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 16 2014 17:07 GMT
#1853
Why would 6ah not be poisoned?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 16 2014 17:08 GMT
#1854
I'd really like to hear from Asmodeus also. Now that things have cooled a bit, how do you feel about the lead up to the lynch? You changed your vote a lot without saying anything. Do you still suspect Ghandhi?
I am the Town Medic.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 16 2014 17:11 GMT
#1855
On October 17 2014 02:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Why would 6ah not be poisoned?


I guess he could have been?

It's dangerous for me to assume Coma and potential scum Poisoner would think like myself, but why bother killing a vanilla?
I am the Town Medic.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 16 2014 17:15 GMT
#1856
On October 17 2014 02:11 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 02:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Why would 6ah not be poisoned?


I guess he could have been?

It's dangerous for me to assume Coma and potential scum Poisoner would think like myself, but why bother killing a vanilla?


I think it would be totally feasible that Coma could have poisoned 6ah - 3p love chaos like that and killing the only confirmed townie would help further his own agenda?

I'm not sure, but it's very difficult to speculate on potential poison targets.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 16 2014 17:18 GMT
#1857
On October 17 2014 02:08 Alzadar wrote:
I'd really like to hear from Asmodeus also. Now that things have cooled a bit, how do you feel about the lead up to the lynch? You changed your vote a lot without saying anything. Do you still suspect Ghandhi?


After the Soniv reveal, all my shit went out the window. I was bandwagoning at that point. Ghandi seemed like the next best, and while I don't think he's purely clean, he doesn't reek of scum to me at this point. Then there was you, and you didn't do much early, so I was fine with that lynch, especially since it went that way for everyone else. Same story with Coma.

tl;dr - I was in full bandwagon mode because all my reads have been shit-ass-wrong. Now I don't know who to suspect, though I don't really buy Req's case against Wave because I do think he's town and I feel weird about owb, who still hasn't posted much after the shitstorm.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 16 2014 17:19 GMT
#1858
tbh it's a fucking miracle that I'm still alive ._.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 16 2014 17:21 GMT
#1859
On October 17 2014 02:19 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
tbh it's a fucking miracle that I'm still alive ._.


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Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 16 2014 17:23 GMT
#1860
On October 17 2014 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 02:19 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
tbh it's a fucking miracle that I'm still alive ._.


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[image loading]

U can stay <3
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
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