• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 11:17
CET 17:17
KST 01:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 101SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1820Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Empty tournaments section on Liquipedia I would like to say something about StarCraft StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Elden Ring Thread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 994 users

[I] TLLOLOTGDTM - Page 93

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 91 92 93 94 95 112 Next
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 16 2014 16:25 GMT
#1841
Any real analysis/question answering from me will not come for several more hours.

What I will say for now - the points Req raises are not as bad as you make them out to be Wave. For someone who seriously fucked up D2, you should not get a free pass to:

On October 17 2014 01:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
Req, flat out ignoring that post.
Sorry buddeh.

Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 16:28 GMT
#1842
Well too bad because I'm not going to try to convince a guy who has tunnel vision ed me since the start of the game. I tried to do it with logic days ago and that didn't work, it's certainly not going to work now and a waste of time and will just serve to piss me off. Req doesn't believe in the way mafia is supposed to be played, he scoffs when people try to help and give him advice and he does what he wants. You're welcome to cater to him because I've done it long enough.

I'm going to be ignoring req until he gives me reason not to, and garnering votes against me tomorrow won't do it.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 16:33 GMT
#1843
On October 17 2014 01:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Well too bad because I'm not going to try to convince a guy who has tunnel vision ed me since the start of the game. I tried to do it with logic days ago and that didn't work, it's certainly not going to work now and a waste of time and will just serve to piss me off. Req doesn't believe in the way mafia is supposed to be played, he scoffs when people try to help and give him advice and he does what he wants. You're welcome to cater to him because I've done it long enough.

I'm going to be ignoring req until he gives me reason not to, and garnering votes against me tomorrow won't do it.

You've never tried to use logic against me. I brought up points against you Day 1. Admittedly they were thin, but so were EVERYONE's points because it was Day 1. You basically just said "I know how to play the game, you don't" and then pointed me at Lord Tolkien.

You're right, I don't "believe in the way mafia is supposed to be played" because the second you fall into the same rut of playing a game, the easier it is to game. If I follow people's advice to the point that I don't listen to my own instincts, then I'm not playing the game. I'm just being a sheep, and you were so derisive of anyone sheeping earlier.

At this point you're just getting pissed because I'm continuing to find things in your play that I think are dodgy - many of which have not been talked about by anyone yet. Just because I'm the only person following you does not make these points any less worth discussing, and if you are too stubborn to not talk about them, I'll be too stubborn to not stop talking about them.

Plugging your ears does not make you look innocent.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 16 2014 16:40 GMT
#1844
On October 17 2014 01:00 mordek wrote:
He's been doing a great job of convincing me of town since the lynch-train but he may just be throwing out any line he can think of that makes him seem innocent. I mean he did request to get parity checked. This is getting into WIFOM though right? I'd still keep him in the watch list.


That request is meaningless since if he's scum he can ensure that Soniv dies or is roleblocked.
I am the Town Medic.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 16:43 GMT
#1845
OK soniv I'm willing to compromise a little;if you think reps case is so good, bring the points to be you think are worth me addressing and I'll to it. You can champion his case if you think I'm scummy too. The point is I don't want to turn this into the req v wave show and I know arguing with him is completely futile. I deal with people like this all the time in mafia.

Remember a guy called raynpelikoneet? If you don't, look up a couple of his games. He can be a good player but sometimes he flips the fuck out for no reason or tunnel vision insanely hard all game against a person of his choosing. I've been that person a couple times before and nothing I ever say or do convinces him other wise despite his grilling. It's incredibly time consuming, frustrating, demoralizing, and most of all useless. I will not be dealing with that this game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 16 2014 16:45 GMT
#1846
it's really funny reading that after being the target of your tunneling
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 16:46 GMT
#1847
On October 17 2014 01:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:
it's really funny reading that after being the target of your tunneling

Careful or you might get ignored too.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 16:47 GMT
#1848
Sorry that was a little petty of me, shitposting should stay in OT.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 16:47 GMT
#1849
If I could edit it off I would.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
October 16 2014 16:48 GMT
#1850
I know, right?
Difference being
A) I haven't done it all game
B) I'm constantly willing to reevaluate and constantly do
C) I'm nowhere near on the same stubbornness level as req. You know that.
D) I don't have a claim to fall back on

Your call dude, I've made my position clear. If I played like shit yesterday it doesn't mean you have to do the same.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 16 2014 16:53 GMT
#1851
On October 17 2014 01:40 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 01:00 mordek wrote:
He's been doing a great job of convincing me of town since the lynch-train but he may just be throwing out any line he can think of that makes him seem innocent. I mean he did request to get parity checked. This is getting into WIFOM though right? I'd still keep him in the watch list.


That request is meaningless since if he's scum he can ensure that Soniv dies or is roleblocked.

Well... there's a bit more to it than that, but that's the gist of it. Alz or Soinv will likely die tonight, I think.

But who knows? Maybe there's a plan that requires leaving them alive.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 16 2014 17:04 GMT
#1852
Poisoner: maybe you've already thought of this, but consider taking that antidote yourself. There's a possible two poisons out there with unknown targets (I hope you chose your own target well), and the only people you can be sure are Town are yourself and Cixah, who wouldn't have been poisoned.
I am the Town Medic.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 16 2014 17:07 GMT
#1853
Why would 6ah not be poisoned?
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 16 2014 17:08 GMT
#1854
I'd really like to hear from Asmodeus also. Now that things have cooled a bit, how do you feel about the lead up to the lynch? You changed your vote a lot without saying anything. Do you still suspect Ghandhi?
I am the Town Medic.
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
October 16 2014 17:11 GMT
#1855
On October 17 2014 02:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Why would 6ah not be poisoned?


I guess he could have been?

It's dangerous for me to assume Coma and potential scum Poisoner would think like myself, but why bother killing a vanilla?
I am the Town Medic.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 16 2014 17:15 GMT
#1856
On October 17 2014 02:11 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 02:07 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Why would 6ah not be poisoned?


I guess he could have been?

It's dangerous for me to assume Coma and potential scum Poisoner would think like myself, but why bother killing a vanilla?


I think it would be totally feasible that Coma could have poisoned 6ah - 3p love chaos like that and killing the only confirmed townie would help further his own agenda?

I'm not sure, but it's very difficult to speculate on potential poison targets.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
October 16 2014 17:18 GMT
#1857
On October 17 2014 02:08 Alzadar wrote:
I'd really like to hear from Asmodeus also. Now that things have cooled a bit, how do you feel about the lead up to the lynch? You changed your vote a lot without saying anything. Do you still suspect Ghandhi?


After the Soniv reveal, all my shit went out the window. I was bandwagoning at that point. Ghandi seemed like the next best, and while I don't think he's purely clean, he doesn't reek of scum to me at this point. Then there was you, and you didn't do much early, so I was fine with that lynch, especially since it went that way for everyone else. Same story with Coma.

tl;dr - I was in full bandwagon mode because all my reads have been shit-ass-wrong. Now I don't know who to suspect, though I don't really buy Req's case against Wave because I do think he's town and I feel weird about owb, who still hasn't posted much after the shitstorm.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 16 2014 17:19 GMT
#1858
tbh it's a fucking miracle that I'm still alive ._.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 16 2014 17:21 GMT
#1859
On October 17 2014 02:19 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
tbh it's a fucking miracle that I'm still alive ._.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
October 16 2014 17:23 GMT
#1860
On October 17 2014 02:21 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2014 02:19 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
tbh it's a fucking miracle that I'm still alive ._.


+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]

U can stay <3
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Prev 1 91 92 93 94 95 112 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 44m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
LamboSC2 635
Lowko571
BRAT_OK 81
RushiSC 32
DivinesiaTV 28
MindelVK 10
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 39612
Sea 4156
Rain 2101
Jaedong 1957
Horang2 1382
Mini 870
Soma 800
firebathero 663
Shuttle 523
GuemChi 443
[ Show more ]
ZerO 402
Light 324
BeSt 308
actioN 301
Rush 171
Zeus 136
ggaemo 134
Barracks 81
Hyun 71
JYJ 69
Mong 58
Aegong 49
Mind 35
soO 34
zelot 33
Rock 32
HiyA 25
Yoon 23
ToSsGirL 22
Terrorterran 21
ajuk12(nOOB) 20
Sexy 19
scan(afreeca) 15
JulyZerg 12
Noble 6
Dota 2
qojqva2466
syndereN519
LuMiX0
League of Legends
C9.Mang0587
Other Games
Grubby3994
Liquid`RaSZi3011
Gorgc2391
singsing1984
JimRising 566
B2W.Neo483
crisheroes366
Hui .349
mouzStarbuck334
FrodaN183
ArmadaUGS103
Mew2King50
ZerO(Twitch)22
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 13 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• HeavenSC 39
• poizon28 27
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos4734
Upcoming Events
IPSL
44m
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
1h 44m
OSC
19h 44m
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
21h 44m
Replay Cast
1d 16h
Wardi Open
1d 19h
RotterdaM Event
2 days
Patches Events
2 days
PiGosaur Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
3 days
OSC
4 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W2
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.