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jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 13 2014 17:16 GMT
#881
On October 14 2014 02:14 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 02:11 WaveofShadow wrote:

I am assuming at this point that we're dealing with 4 scum and a 3P (hopefully just survivor) but I have seen 4 scum and 3P with KP before, and that setup really sucks for us.

Your turn, if we're putting our cards on the table.


14 player game is 4 scum??? Is that real? Can you explain please. This is a legit inquiry because I assumed 3 scum + 1 3P(with possible KP).


This is also what I've been thinking, but I don't think I've ever played in a 14 players game? And I know admittedly little about game balancing.

@Wave - right now leaning back towards Alzadar and my brain is telling me to take another look at mordek. This is before going back to reread stuff.

I'm null on owb probably for the same reason as you are.
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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
October 13 2014 17:17 GMT
#882
On October 14 2014 02:14 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 02:11 WaveofShadow wrote:

I am assuming at this point that we're dealing with 4 scum and a 3P (hopefully just survivor) but I have seen 4 scum and 3P with KP before, and that setup really sucks for us.

Your turn, if we're putting our cards on the table.


14 player game is 4 scum??? Is that real? Can you explain please. This is a legit inquiry because I assumed 3 scum + 1 3P(with possible KP).

God Wave, stop panicking everyone.

In my experience its 3 mafia, MAYBE a 3p if town is filled with blues, with 14 players in a noob game.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 13 2014 17:18 GMT
#883
On October 14 2014 02:14 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 02:11 WaveofShadow wrote:

I am assuming at this point that we're dealing with 4 scum and a 3P (hopefully just survivor) but I have seen 4 scum and 3P with KP before, and that setup really sucks for us.

Your turn, if we're putting our cards on the table.


14 player game is 4 scum??? Is that real? Can you explain please. This is a legit inquiry because I assumed 3 scum + 1 3P(with possible KP).

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/442512-survivor-series-mafia
No 3P here

I remembered one of my other scumgames wrong as well, thought it was 14 with 4 scum and 3P but it was 16.
I could swear there was another one recently with 4scum + 3P but I could be wrong.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
October 13 2014 17:18 GMT
#884
Also Coma. Pls. Soniv is cleared for his push onto MB.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
October 13 2014 17:19 GMT
#885
On October 14 2014 02:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 02:14 ketchup wrote:
On October 14 2014 02:11 WaveofShadow wrote:

I am assuming at this point that we're dealing with 4 scum and a 3P (hopefully just survivor) but I have seen 4 scum and 3P with KP before, and that setup really sucks for us.

Your turn, if we're putting our cards on the table.


14 player game is 4 scum??? Is that real? Can you explain please. This is a legit inquiry because I assumed 3 scum + 1 3P(with possible KP).

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/442512-survivor-series-mafia
No 3P here

I remembered one of my other scumgames wrong as well, thought it was 14 with 4 scum and 3P but it was 16.
I could swear there was another one recently with 4scum + 3P but I could be wrong.

Wave you isjit. Max of 3 scum with 14 players, 3p optional if there's a shitton of town blues.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
October 13 2014 17:20 GMT
#886
*idjit
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 13 2014 17:20 GMT
#887
@Coma - protecting 6ah isn't a top priority imo. Sure, he's be confirmed town and that's nice, but he's not a power role, he's just someone we know we can trust (not that this means his ideas are much more valid, just that they don't have scum motivations).
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 17:20 GMT
#888
Filter check: Alaric
Feeling: Unknown/possible scum
Posting Habits: Observation

A good portion of Frenchie's posting is trying to encourage discussion, a lot of asking "name - what do you think of so-and-so?" This is not a bad thing, as encouraging discussion is good for the Town. However, there were relatively few posts with his own opinions. Perhaps he was just waiting for someone to ask him for them as he asks others, but it is worth noting.

I give possible scum, since pointedly asking people to post/critique one another is a very simple and easy way to stir up trouble. Not a particularly clever way to cause town disruption, but one that is effective if left unchecked. Low scum reading, but not 0 at the moment.
It's your boy Guzma!
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 13 2014 17:20 GMT
#889
Ah yeah this is the one I was thinking of
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/465098-guilty-mini-mafia
it was 13 with 3 scum and 3P and I thought it was non-town favoured.

No it probably is 3 scum 3P actually.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 13 2014 17:21 GMT
#890
On October 14 2014 02:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 02:14 ketchup wrote:
On October 14 2014 02:11 WaveofShadow wrote:

I am assuming at this point that we're dealing with 4 scum and a 3P (hopefully just survivor) but I have seen 4 scum and 3P with KP before, and that setup really sucks for us.

Your turn, if we're putting our cards on the table.


14 player game is 4 scum??? Is that real? Can you explain please. This is a legit inquiry because I assumed 3 scum + 1 3P(with possible KP).

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/442512-survivor-series-mafia
No 3P here

I remembered one of my other scumgames wrong as well, thought it was 14 with 4 scum and 3P but it was 16.
I could swear there was another one recently with 4scum + 3P but I could be wrong.


Ok, so 4scum IS possible with 14. It is either 4 scum or 3 scum + 1 3P(with possible KP)
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 13 2014 17:22 GMT
#891
On October 14 2014 02:20 Requizen wrote:
Filter check: Alaric
Feeling: Unknown/possible scum
Posting Habits: Observation

A good portion of Frenchie's posting is trying to encourage discussion, a lot of asking "name - what do you think of so-and-so?" This is not a bad thing, as encouraging discussion is good for the Town. However, there were relatively few posts with his own opinions. Perhaps he was just waiting for someone to ask him for them as he asks others, but it is worth noting.

I give possible scum, since pointedly asking people to post/critique one another is a very simple and easy way to stir up trouble. Not a particularly clever way to cause town disruption, but one that is effective if left unchecked. Low scum reading, but not 0 at the moment.


Asking people to talk about others' posts is actually pretty important - it's how you get how people are thinking and reading other people, and it's how you get content out there, which is especially important D1.

I still maintain my earlier sentiments of Alaric being pretty townie.
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 13 2014 17:22 GMT
#892
On October 14 2014 02:21 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 02:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 14 2014 02:14 ketchup wrote:
On October 14 2014 02:11 WaveofShadow wrote:

I am assuming at this point that we're dealing with 4 scum and a 3P (hopefully just survivor) but I have seen 4 scum and 3P with KP before, and that setup really sucks for us.

Your turn, if we're putting our cards on the table.


14 player game is 4 scum??? Is that real? Can you explain please. This is a legit inquiry because I assumed 3 scum + 1 3P(with possible KP).

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/442512-survivor-series-mafia
No 3P here

I remembered one of my other scumgames wrong as well, thought it was 14 with 4 scum and 3P but it was 16.
I could swear there was another one recently with 4scum + 3P but I could be wrong.


Ok, so 4scum IS possible with 14. It is either 4 scum or 3 scum + 1 3P(with possible KP)

To be fair, Les was fairly scum favoured. We had a 2-shot vig on top of our nightly shot.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
October 13 2014 17:22 GMT
#893
ok BUT FOR REAL

I need to stop posting
Soniv ||| Soniv#1962 ||| @jcarlsoniv ||| The Big Golem ||| Join the Glorious Evolution. What's your favorite aminal, a bear? ||| Joe "Don't call me Daniel" "Soniv" "Daniel" Carlsberg LXIX ||| Paging Dr. John Shadow
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 13 2014 17:22 GMT
#894
On October 14 2014 02:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 02:14 mordek wrote:
Man I almost posted saying I think I've changed my mind on LT and then he goes and posts like this again. It's discouraging.

Im still watchin chu

I'm ok with that. Honestly, I'm struggling a little. I know this is just a game but my personality is just not handling this very well. This is an aside, isn't furthering any town agenda but I honestly need to get this off my chest. The first day was intriguing but I have been unbelievably stressed because of this game. I spent most of my waking hours yesterday mulling over this game and it just didn't feel healthy. I feel lonely and as much as I'm an independent man, the opinion of the majority of people affects me deeply. I've felt like crap IRL for the last 24 hours and it's silly but it is what it is. I need to recompose myself and I want to play the game out to the best of my ability.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 13 2014 17:23 GMT
#895
On October 14 2014 02:20 Requizen wrote:
Filter check: Alaric
Feeling: Unknown/possible scum
Posting Habits: Observation

A good portion of Frenchie's posting is trying to encourage discussion, a lot of asking "name - what do you think of so-and-so?" This is not a bad thing, as encouraging discussion is good for the Town. However, there were relatively few posts with his own opinions. Perhaps he was just waiting for someone to ask him for them as he asks others, but it is worth noting.

I give possible scum, since pointedly asking people to post/critique one another is a very simple and easy way to stir up trouble. Not a particularly clever way to cause town disruption, but one that is effective if left unchecked. Low scum reading, but not 0 at the moment.


I really liked your posts so far today, but this one seems misguided. Alaric seems to draw his own conclusions and seems really likely town.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31494 Posts
October 13 2014 17:23 GMT
#896
Oh nvm I keep confusing myself. Yeah survivor series was kind of different though because of the lynching mechanic. It wasn't a normal game.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
mordek
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States12704 Posts
October 13 2014 17:25 GMT
#897
Why are we talking about different games and numbers? This sounds like scum activity.
It is vanity to love what passes quickly and not to look ahead where eternal joy abides. Tiberius77 | Mordek #1881 "I took a mint!"
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 13 2014 17:26 GMT
#898
On October 14 2014 02:22 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 02:21 ketchup wrote:
On October 14 2014 02:18 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 14 2014 02:14 ketchup wrote:
On October 14 2014 02:11 WaveofShadow wrote:

I am assuming at this point that we're dealing with 4 scum and a 3P (hopefully just survivor) but I have seen 4 scum and 3P with KP before, and that setup really sucks for us.

Your turn, if we're putting our cards on the table.


14 player game is 4 scum??? Is that real? Can you explain please. This is a legit inquiry because I assumed 3 scum + 1 3P(with possible KP).

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/442512-survivor-series-mafia
No 3P here

I remembered one of my other scumgames wrong as well, thought it was 14 with 4 scum and 3P but it was 16.
I could swear there was another one recently with 4scum + 3P but I could be wrong.


Ok, so 4scum IS possible with 14. It is either 4 scum or 3 scum + 1 3P(with possible KP)

To be fair, Les was fairly scum favoured. We had a 2-shot vig on top of our nightly shot.


Thanks for clearing it up. I think it's highly likely for 3scum + 1 3P right now, but I don't really want to speculate too strongly about it here.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 17:26 GMT
#899
On October 14 2014 02:22 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 02:20 Requizen wrote:
Filter check: Alaric
Feeling: Unknown/possible scum
Posting Habits: Observation

A good portion of Frenchie's posting is trying to encourage discussion, a lot of asking "name - what do you think of so-and-so?" This is not a bad thing, as encouraging discussion is good for the Town. However, there were relatively few posts with his own opinions. Perhaps he was just waiting for someone to ask him for them as he asks others, but it is worth noting.

I give possible scum, since pointedly asking people to post/critique one another is a very simple and easy way to stir up trouble. Not a particularly clever way to cause town disruption, but one that is effective if left unchecked. Low scum reading, but not 0 at the moment.


Asking people to talk about others' posts is actually pretty important - it's how you get how people are thinking and reading other people, and it's how you get content out there, which is especially important D1.

I still maintain my earlier sentiments of Alaric being pretty townie.

As I said, I tend to be distrusting in these sorts of situations. I don't like letting other people's opinions sway my own when it comes to deception, especially given that their response can be colored differently from mine depending on if they are Scum, Blue, or Green.

As I said, Alaric rates very low on scum for me, but a ~15% rating is still a rating, and now is the time to share information. I don't expect there to be a lot of deaths tonight, but I think it's important to get info out there just in case.
It's your boy Guzma!
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
October 13 2014 17:27 GMT
#900
On October 14 2014 02:25 mordek wrote:
Why are we talking about different games and numbers? This sounds like scum activity.


It matters to me a lot because it means a lot to me to know what I am looking for.
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