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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 18:14 GMT
#913
Hilarious typo aside, I agree with mordek. Scum are going to hide their numbers, and town trying to discuss it is just going to take time away from real discussion.

At the moment, the number of scum is greater than 0. We kill them one at a time until Dandel says that we got them all.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 18:19 GMT
#916
On October 14 2014 03:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
MORDEK SCUMSLIP
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST

Also Req I'm going to go ahead and say while it's nice that you're getting your reads out, it isn't strictly helpful to town to be vomiting everything all at once. Should be focusing specifically on who is scum and why as that is our job---if someone you think is town gets attacked then you can describe why you disagree and whatnot to prevent mislynching. Focus is key.

Just my two cents.

As I said before, I'd rather have all cards on the table from everyone. If someone gets shot/poisoned tonight and their correct read goes unposted, then that hurts the town.

For example, I said that I think mordek is town. If I die tonight, but am right that he's not scum, I hope that my posts can help narrow down who is.

You're correct in that the converse is more focused and just as important - if someone dies, that means their scumreads may be accurate and will cause an investigation. But the opposite is just as important.

That said, scum can also just choose to kill someone who thinks that they are town, to draw suspicion away. That's why giving reasoning why you don't think someone is scum is just as important - so someone who disagrees with you can still investigate.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 18:57 GMT
#928
Alzadar's filter is odd. Lots of fluff posts early, then some decent ideas, but something seems off about him. Can't put my finger on it.

I'll look into Soniv next, Wave. I can say my focus hasn't been on him much.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 19:04 GMT
#936
On October 14 2014 03:59 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Or better yet, at the people wasting their votes D1 and not consolidating on the two wagons.

HINT HINT

You're very aggressive about instigating mobs. I don't know how forum mafia goes, but in my opinion the better play is to get the town working together. Fearmongering, shitposting, and capslocking doesn't make you look innocent or like a team player. Please shape up or stop.

I've already given my reasoning for my vote. I will welcome any discussion into my behavior, because truth is how Town will succeed in life.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 19:09 GMT
#944
On October 14 2014 04:01 Alzadar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 03:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 14 2014 03:57 Requizen wrote:
Alzadar's filter is odd. Lots of fluff posts early, then some decent ideas, but something seems off about him. Can't put my finger on it.

I'll look into Soniv next, Wave. I can say my focus hasn't been on him much.

This alone should be suspicious. Scum are playing well when they draw no focus.


Although true I guess, it this really "suspicious"? If it's suspicious to not be under suspicion...



On October 14 2014 04:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 03:57 Requizen wrote:
Alzadar's filter is odd. Lots of fluff posts early, then some decent ideas, but something seems off about him. Can't put my finger on it.


The thing that's setting me off about him is that ever since we chastised his early posts, he seems to be saying things that he thinks the town wants to hear, rather than what he's actually thinking? Idk, hard to put it in words. I'll really dig into it more in a few hours.

That's true, while it sounds silly it is possible to be too unsuspicious, it is possible that being too aggreeable gives off a "scum trying too hard" vibe.

Alz, I don't think you're scum (yet), but I wouldn't be in a dark room with you and a gun.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 19:14 GMT
#945
On October 14 2014 04:09 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 04:04 Requizen wrote:
On October 14 2014 03:59 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Or better yet, at the people wasting their votes D1 and not consolidating on the two wagons.

HINT HINT

You're very aggressive about instigating mobs. I don't know how forum mafia goes, but in my opinion the better play is to get the town working together. Fearmongering, shitposting, and capslocking doesn't make you look innocent or like a team player. Please shape up or stop.

I've already given my reasoning for my vote. I will welcome any discussion into my behavior, because truth is how Town will succeed in life.

You wasted your vote lol. Wave wasnt getting lynched d1 ever and all you did was give scum more room to influence or hide their votes.

This is the scummiest attitude that I've ever seen. Either you are a shit-tier poster or you're bad at being scum. Either way, I'd rather have reasonable Scum!Wave live longer than take the chance that you're Town.

This type of posting isn't constructive, it's just setting town back. And it's blatant about it. If you're seriously not scum, you're just hurting the team instead of trying to do anything constructive.

Please, respond to me in any trollish shit you haven't used yet (which, let us remember, includes youtube videos, quoting Lonely Island, allcaps, blaming your phone for making you a shitter, and yelling "disregard").
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 19:18 GMT
#948
On October 14 2014 04:17 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 04:14 Requizen wrote:
On October 14 2014 04:09 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On October 14 2014 04:04 Requizen wrote:
On October 14 2014 03:59 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Or better yet, at the people wasting their votes D1 and not consolidating on the two wagons.

HINT HINT

You're very aggressive about instigating mobs. I don't know how forum mafia goes, but in my opinion the better play is to get the town working together. Fearmongering, shitposting, and capslocking doesn't make you look innocent or like a team player. Please shape up or stop.

I've already given my reasoning for my vote. I will welcome any discussion into my behavior, because truth is how Town will succeed in life.

You wasted your vote lol. Wave wasnt getting lynched d1 ever and all you did was give scum more room to influence or hide their votes.

This is the scummiest attitude that I've ever seen. Either you are a shit-tier poster or you're bad at being scum. Either way, I'd rather have reasonable Scum!Wave live longer than take the chance that you're Town.

This type of posting isn't constructive, it's just setting town back. And it's blatant about it. If you're seriously not scum, you're just hurting the team instead of trying to do anything constructive.

Please, respond to me in any trollish shit you haven't used yet (which, let us remember, includes youtube videos, quoting Lonely Island, allcaps, blaming your phone for making you a shitter, and yelling "disregard").

You have much experience with scummy attitudes then?

Yeah, I hang out in TLLOLOTGDT
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 19:37 GMT
#958
I don't know on Soniv. Again, like Alz, his posts aren't scummy, but they don't feel squeaky clean. I like how he was on MB from early and stuck with it, so he wasn't really flip-floppy. Even if it was wrong, I like how he put down a feeling and then stuck with it rather that throwing his vote wherever.

But, his discussions (while moving the thread along), rarely give any of his own opinions. Other than his read on MB and an early read list, most of it is just talking about other player's reads until the end of the day rolled around. This doesn't scream scum to me, but it's very observer-like and lurky. Being around, talking without really drawing attention or saying anything that jumps can be a very effective stealth tool.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 19:41 GMT
#959
On October 14 2014 04:31 Alzadar wrote:
MoonBear (6): jcarlsoniv, Lord Tolkien, AsmodeusXI, GhandiEAGLE, Alaric, ketchup, AsmodeusXI, WaveofShadow, jcarlsoniv, Cixah

So who voted for MoonBear and why?

Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 05:42 jcarlsoniv wrote:
y'know what? fuck it

##vote: MoonBear

You can, in fact, continue on the "he said, she said", that's how this game works. And y'know what you've said? Nothing. But you, more than any of the others who've done the same, come off as faux-contribution. Moreso than Alzadar. Asking about cops, trying to discern the setup, having 0 conclusions.

THE BEAR'S BLOOD WILL DRAIN RED

+ Show Spoiler +
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Soniv was first here. This was still pretty early and I think he had some solid reasoning, it's similar to why I suspected MB.

Later he unvotes because he thinks MoonBear is going to be modkilled but revotes when MoonBear appears. I don't mind Soniv sticking to his guns here, MB was definitely suspicious. Dunno what I think of Soniv being completely unswayed by Wave's blue assertion.

Tolkien was next, seems like a straightforward vote. Was still early in the day and the other main candidate at the time was himself, so not surprising he would vote the other way. Later he was a big MoonBear defender.

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On October 13 2014 03:59 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Sticking with Moonbear because I feel bad about no-votes, but I'm not 100% convinced.

##Vote: Moonbear


Ghandhi next, he just completely jumped on the bandwagon. Voted Wave early, which obviously wasn't going to happen, then hopped on the MB train and sat there happily till night.

Asmo felt it was between Ghandhi and MB, Ghandhi posted a wall that convinced him a bit so he flipflopped back to MoonBear. Doesn't seem too suspicious.

Alaric posts fucking massive walls, wtf. He voted and then said this:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 07:13 Alaric wrote:
On the other hand, just because it's Moonbear's first game doesn't mean he's not maybe better at this kind of things than you. An issue for me here is that I have no idea what "serious" Moonbear is like, since he's always that jolly cheerful fellow with us in the off-topic thread (heck, even when he warns me it's more like "PSA from your friendly neighbour"!), which muddies my expectations.
But in the end I said I'd rather vote for someone dubious than an afk*, so I'm looking at him right now.
Moonbear, what that means is that you're close to a default lynch than a 100% scum read for me, so if you wanna stay alive it's up to you buddy! Be convincing, preferable before I go to bed.


I think most can agree that MB was not convincing that he wasn't scum. Which maybe he thought was alright since he was Vanilla.

You've all discussed Wave already.

Cixah's post is weird:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2014 08:50 Cixah wrote:
##Vote Moonbear

I guess this is how this is going to down? I don't like the lynch based on what i've seen, I even think Ghandi is still the better pick even if he claimed vanilla town. I don't buy that claim either TBH, We'll have to wait and see after the night.


You think Ghandhi is a better pick, so you vote MoonBear when it was still within a vote of being Jeff? Obviously the IC claim makes it hard to suspect Cixah but you better believe if it doesn't get announced tomorrow that you are gonna swing.

From all that, Ghandhi is the most suspicious. Either completely bandwagony Townie or scum happy to sit on a mislynch without really debating the issue.

This is a good post. I agree with many of these deductions.

The biggest point in the context of this post is clearly Cixah. I hadn't paid much attention to how he posted into his vote, but in this light, if he doesn't flip IC, he's immediately suspicious. You don't go with your #2 to kill someone you're not sure of.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 19:54 GMT
#962
Decent reasoning. I could get behind a Soniv investigation, even if my scum klaxons aren't blaring around him.

Also worth noting: ketchup. Again, largely ignored, no large stances taken. Many, many posts of "Why do you think x is scum" "who are your scumreads". Possibly starting fights, possibly starting conversation, but his volume of posting with little commitment is offputting.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 13 2014 20:15 GMT
#970
On October 14 2014 05:13 WaveofShadow wrote:
Yeah so I just realized a quarter of the posts in this thread belong to me. At the risk of not much discussion occurring in my absence, I'm done until after deadline. You guys can keep it up. I bereave.
In case I die, scumreads are
Soniv
Asmo



Look into Coma/Alz/Jeff

Null on owb but leaning town. Also on LT---LT SHOULD be town but lord has his posting been shit today.
mordek/ketchup/Req/Cixah/Alaric
Don't let anyone fall off the radar.

You let OWB fall off the radar
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 14 2014 00:25 GMT
#1022
I am bad at reads.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 14 2014 02:08 GMT
#1055
There are 11 of you left. There are at least 3, possibly 4 of you trying to kill me. And I have no idea which ones.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 14 2014 02:15 GMT
#1058
Whatever, I'm going to do this:

##Vote: ComaDose

Either:
a) You are scum and deserve it
or
b) You'll actually post a decent amount during this day cycle instead of getting drunk and screwing a moose
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 14 2014 02:59 GMT
#1069
LT was killed by scum. Either his reads were good or they did it to screw with people. Neither of those can be determined at this time, so game continues as normal, for me it's just D1 again. Little if any information was gleaned - MB was killed by a mob half for being inactive half for posting nonsense. LT was killed by scum for indeterminate reasons.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 14 2014 04:25 GMT
#1080
"Happy to ride bandwagons"? "Have yet to vote on anyone I think is scum"? Both my D1 votes were on LordT and Wave, both of whom I was vocal about being scum and neither of whom were bandwagon votes.

I voted 6ah now because my top scum vote died and was VT. I don't have confidence right now and am more interested in seeing Coma participate than I am trusting my own feelings atm.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 14 2014 04:25 GMT
#1081
On October 14 2014 13:25 Requizen wrote:
"Happy to ride bandwagons"? "Have yet to vote on anyone I think is scum"? Both my D1 votes were on LordT and Wave, both of whom I was vocal about being scum and neither of whom were bandwagon votes.

I voted 6ah now because my top scum vote died and was VT. I don't have confidence right now and am more interested in seeing Coma participate than I am trusting my own feelings atm.

This was at Ketchup, btw
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 14 2014 04:55 GMT
#1091
On October 14 2014 13:45 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
I'm not saying that as a reflection on your guilt or innocence, I'm just saying its unfair as a metric.

It's not though.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 14 2014 05:19 GMT
#1111
On October 14 2014 14:02 ketchup wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 14 2014 13:25 Requizen wrote:
On October 14 2014 13:25 Requizen wrote:
"Happy to ride bandwagons"? "Have yet to vote on anyone I think is scum"? Both my D1 votes were on LordT and Wave, both of whom I was vocal about being scum and neither of whom were bandwagon votes.

I voted 6ah now because my top scum vote died and was VT. I don't have confidence right now and am more interested in seeing Coma participate than I am trusting my own feelings atm.

This was at Ketchup, btw


You don't actually go after people you think are scum. What happened to Alaric? Is he still scum for you? HOW is he scum for you? HOW is asmo leaning town to you. He is lurking harder than Ghandi was day 1. He made ONE post during the night stage, and at least ghandi had an excuse(school). So, I see a lot of odd inconsistency with your play. Wave thinks you aren't scummy, but Tolk felt these odd inconsistency with your demeanor as well. What happened to noob Req who doesn't know anything about the game? What was your reason for playing Day 1 that way? You sure were really confident in the night stage, and now you are back to not knowing anything at all? You are somehow going to vote comadose who already had 2 votes on him? Please. Try harder. Try to push people you actually think are scum. Give me good reasons please.

Literally what are you talking about. I spent most of D1 talking about how Wave and LordT were my top picks. I may have said some others were wishy washy. Go into my filter, either you are misremembering or fearmongering. I spent the first part of D1 half paying attention and shitposting, and after people yelled at me for it I changed my attitude. My only big posts were after my 2 big picks. I voted for both of them. I never started a witch hunt on either Alaric, in fact I didn't say anything about him until N1. I had no reason to vote him. And even that Night post was unsure.

I jumped on the Coma train because my confidence is shattered after my #1 turned up VT. I don't know how I can get this across to you any clearer. If I need to explain it again, you are clearly scum. I could understand why you would want to start pressure against me, but I don't know any reason why you would do it in such an incorrect, hamfisted manner unless you are scum that is trying to start yet another mislynch.

If anyone needs to try harder, it's you.
It's your boy Guzma!
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
October 14 2014 05:29 GMT
#1113
fyi ketchup, you made the scum list. Congrats.

Coma still retains the vote until I'm sure who else I want to vote for. I could unvote, but I do wish to see how he will respond to the votes on him at the moment. I don't have any current intention to leave it up if I like his response. That said, it better be good, Coma.
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