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On October 10 2014 08:34 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 08:30 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:23 StorrZerg wrote:On October 10 2014 08:20 liancourt wrote:
you know what I'll just vote you until you give a read on someone else, but me and actually help town instead of tunneling me.
##Vote StorrZerg is anyone complaining about my lack of reads? or is it just you? What is this logic? Do more people have to complain of your lack of reads for you to be scum? Based on my logic, you know I'm town because you are scum. You pick the scummiest town player on d1, which was undoubtedly me because everyone was giving me shit and you knew you could get easy support if you rolled out a half decent case basically mix and matching what everyone else has said before. So, I'm just gonna keep on complaining until you give other reads besides me cos I'm so stubborn. you bitching about my lack of reads from a single person isn't going to make me do anything. thats the logic. i picked you at the start of the game. before anyone else got a conclusion. I then watched you, waited for you to do something productive, when you hadn't that's when i made my full blown case. you still are doing a very poor job in convincing anyone else to do 1. not vote hopeless (cause you think he is town idk why) 2. put pressure on me. 3. put pressure on damd
pro scum strat picking one person before he does anything. Town should be looking at the whole picture and finding things odd in it not tunnel visioning one player and seeing if he fucks up or not. It's like you're saying you wanted to find any reasons which I can blame him for being scummy.
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On October 10 2014 08:34 batsnacks wrote:
Liam are you mafia though? What do you think your scummiest post is?
the answer is apparently this one, but I'm gonna say the thing about RNG because everyone else thinks so. Yea so go analyze that and this post.
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On October 10 2014 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 08:32 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:25 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 08:22 StorrZerg wrote:On October 10 2014 08:21 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 08:20 liancourt wrote:
you know what I'll just vote you until you give a read on someone else, but me and actually help town instead of tunneling me.
##Vote StorrZerg oi what's wrong with voting ows cause he reading ows town now arg, but ows has done nothing even remotely useful or town-oriented! all he has done is try to save OO (laughably) and backtrack it, then follow his scumread (who he now claims is a townread) to push h1 how in the name of THE LORD do you have a tonwread on ows???? i posted it on an earlier post look through my filter having difficulty finding it. HEre you seem to be scumreading him: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=66#1316 is it this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=82#1640i can't find any times you mention him after scumreading him in that post, please help me.
yea the second one good job
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On October 10 2014 08:39 Damdred wrote:
That's ok liam you will not make an actual case or push your reds so its ok
must be real comfortable being scum when the only person suspecting you is a noob who can't make a case out of you because you have done absolutely nothing
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On October 10 2014 08:41 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 08:36 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:27 Damdred wrote:
I am not sure how you have been tunnel in the past but why in doing now is not that. Stop is probably closest not yet.
However if you want make a case on me atm you need to revisit my filter.
I didn't reread stores case before i did mine so if theirs overlay my apologies had more to st but ran out of time. However i think their are different views invite cases that hedge same conclusions I'm sorry damd it must be my scum vision on you, but all I'm reading is you trying to wiggle your way out of saying that you copied storr by claiming you didnt read his before you did yours. No one can confirm that story sorry damd but you're becoming scummier by every post you make. why is it so hard for you to take 10 mins to show what you are talking about instead of just talking out of your waszzzoo for all the credit HF gave you day 1, with how your town read of "bh" evolved, your evolution of your scum reads over the game have not changed at all. The same case you made against me day 1, is the same case you have day 2. and "nothing" has changed. because "im not reading other people as you claim" thus you have no ability or will to bother growing your read on me. (copy paste this for palmar/damd too what not)
how about actually doing something besides talking to me or asking others' opinions of me?
how about something not related tome like... giving reads on others hmm? then i can analyze you. Or maybe you don't wnat that to happen so you're having this nonsensical farce with me that's getting absolutely nowhere.
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On October 10 2014 08:46 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 08:44 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:34 StorrZerg wrote:On October 10 2014 08:30 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:23 StorrZerg wrote:On October 10 2014 08:20 liancourt wrote:
you know what I'll just vote you until you give a read on someone else, but me and actually help town instead of tunneling me.
##Vote StorrZerg is anyone complaining about my lack of reads? or is it just you? What is this logic? Do more people have to complain of your lack of reads for you to be scum? Based on my logic, you know I'm town because you are scum. You pick the scummiest town player on d1, which was undoubtedly me because everyone was giving me shit and you knew you could get easy support if you rolled out a half decent case basically mix and matching what everyone else has said before. So, I'm just gonna keep on complaining until you give other reads besides me cos I'm so stubborn. you bitching about my lack of reads from a single person isn't going to make me do anything. thats the logic. i picked you at the start of the game. before anyone else got a conclusion. I then watched you, waited for you to do something productive, when you hadn't that's when i made my full blown case. you still are doing a very poor job in convincing anyone else to do 1. not vote hopeless (cause you think he is town idk why) 2. put pressure on me. 3. put pressure on damd pro scum strat picking one person before he does anything. Town should be looking at the whole picture and finding things odd in it not tunnel visioning one player and seeing if he fucks up or not. It's like you're saying you wanted to find any reasons which I can blame him for being scummy. no you had done something, which is why you caught my eye.
At least i did something unlike you
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On October 10 2014 08:54 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 08:48 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:38 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 08:32 liancourt wrote:On October 10 2014 08:25 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 08:22 StorrZerg wrote:On October 10 2014 08:21 Blazinghand wrote:On October 10 2014 08:20 liancourt wrote:
you know what I'll just vote you until you give a read on someone else, but me and actually help town instead of tunneling me.
##Vote StorrZerg oi what's wrong with voting ows cause he reading ows town now arg, but ows has done nothing even remotely useful or town-oriented! all he has done is try to save OO (laughably) and backtrack it, then follow his scumread (who he now claims is a townread) to push h1 how in the name of THE LORD do you have a tonwread on ows???? i posted it on an earlier post look through my filter having difficulty finding it. HEre you seem to be scumreading him: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=66#1316 is it this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=82#1640i can't find any times you mention him after scumreading him in that post, please help me. yea the second one good job So basically you thought OWS was scum because Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 14:20 liancourt wrote:On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.
Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all. What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it? You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything. Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy. I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this. You say this at the start of the day, it's like you want everyone to brush OO off as a serious lynch in a I don't really care way and then you say moments later this On October 07 2014 11:40 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
This is going to be a really small postcount game. Nobody else seems interested in moving the thread forward which really bothers me.
Bleed towniness. It seemed to me like you wanted to move away from the whole OO business so you wanted to start a new topic. This is all in hindsight after knowing OO's alignment and thought it odd in my eyes after rereading the early game. of the reasons here. Basically, you think OWS's relationship to the OO lynch, the flipped scum, makes him town. He was trying to brush off the lynch and move the discussion away from OO. However, simply because OWS' response to an attack on you is this: Show nested quote +On October 10 2014 02:18 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
There's merit to it.
A good case doesn't necessarily mean that the accused is mafia. It could just mean that the guy posting it is paying attention and trying to piece things together. which although accurate, is hilariously noncommimttal, you reverse your read and now no longer want to lynch OWS. You think scum OWS would have attacked you (over h1, who is certainly getting lynched regardless), you who is loud and stubborn. Since he didn't, and just called the casewriter town, you think he's town. is that an accurate representation of your views?
you think hope is a definite lynch today? News to me. And yea that's pretty much my thought process. it made obi scummish because he tried to act like he didn't care about the OO lynch and wanted to move on, but his d2 changed my mind when he could have just followed through and gutted me.
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On October 09 2014 23:52 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 23:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 23:31 StorrZerg wrote:On October 09 2014 23:26 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 09 2014 23:22 StorrZerg wrote:
what do you guys think of liancourt's reaction when dealing with HF, claiming vig/cop.
Unimportant. fantastic coming from the person who got bored and wanted to talk about something yesterday. If you want to change the subject thats fine [] talk about liancourt [] talk about hopeless [] other [insert topic] I'm pretty focused on this hopeless lynch. And I don't think I'm going to change my mind. then lets talk about hopeless..... i mean your around, your responding, help drive the conversation. liancourt, avoided talking about hopeless day 1. hopeless thought on Iian day 1, "Would #lynchwithfire" yet dives on Show nested quote +On October 08 2014 01:37 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 08 2014 01:35 Blazinghand wrote:
I'd like everyone to bear in mind that I've presented a reason to lynch OO that is imo valid entirely independent of the fact that I RNGed him. Yes, I did RNG him so I was going to write a case on him anyways, but bear in mind that that doesn't change the facts, and the facts are: OO isn't playing this game. yeah i'll probably end up here anyways ##Vote: ObviousOne at this point OO was an afk person that sure was "scummy" yet afk. i'd also say hopeless doesn't really add anything to the case on Iian, more so just agrees with my reasoning and "bad list post" yet has far more posts directed to Iian, questioning him, and calling him scum yet we come to this. Show nested quote +On October 09 2014 11:11 Hopeless1der wrote:On October 09 2014 11:09 Grackaroni wrote:
Hope why did you end up voting OO? You originally liked his tone and you were complaining about it being a policy lynch for a while. because RNGesus told me to. No wait that was Blazinghand. same difference. In all seriousness, it seemed inevitable and I wasnt interested in pushing damdred or lian over OO, especially since OO came in long enough to give us something and never return. I was willing to switch around up until I asked where the hell did he go? Says he "wasn't interested" I think this is a contradiction to his actions, he was very interested in pushing liam, and his reason to vote OO was just "ill end up here"
even in your case about hopeless you've mentioned me more than him. Is this really a case about hopeless or just more spotlight on to me? Seems like you actually don't give a hoot and just want to mention my name.
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ok before I read the thread I've read some past games fuelled by the thought of finding why storr loves me so much. I've come to the conlcusion that he does this to all the newbies. Like last game when he rolled town he tunneled hard on a newbie because he played the game differently, in the end the newbie was town and town lost that game. He pretty much did the same things he did to him to me.
As for the game I read when he was scum he didn't tunnel but actually tried to be active and give soft reads and try to ask questions to different people on different things. Basically cause confusion and do nothing.
Now, I'm inclined to think storr is town based on these facts I'm going to retract why vote on him and the scum read I have on him. I know that if I keep tunneling on him it will actually hurt town because that's what happened last game when the newbie and storr tunneled each other. I realized that it's just his natural playstyle when he rolls town and it's no different from last game. But I'd like to add that playstyle of yours storr, it really hurt town. so...
##Unvote
I'll read some filters prolly damdred first and then hopeless and maybe obi too. And about slam and bats these guys havent really done much but I was kinda immersed in the turmoil with storr that I was too uninterested to mention. AS for palmar, I don't think he wants to play this game. He's not even trying. Or it's just superb acting, I'll give him an oscar if he turns out to be mafia.
Anyway be back in a few hours after I read some stuff.
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Dude that random random vote...I dont even wanna read your fluff infested filter now. You dug your own grave. Gg hope.
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Now why couldnt u do this in the first place hope.
##unvote
I ll actually read your filter now
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Facepalm = i disagree no?
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I'm just gonna thow this out there.
I think BH and kel is the most townie so far judging from what they;re doing and how they're going about it. Giving their own reads and asking the appropriate questions. And i'm conflicted because they are pushing obi who I think is town based on reasons I posted earlier in the day. Obi backed me up while damdred is trying to gut me. You could argue that scum can defend town, but it's just so convenient for scum to put salt on wounds and kick a person while they're down than rather having an objective logical opinion on a scummy player.
I frankly don't know how this hopeless wagon came to light. First thing I recall is HF calling a red check on him and it started there. Then he later says he's not the cop. Then he says he is. And then he says he has a red check. WTF? You're not very convincing if you keep changing your story mate. Also I don't understand why obi is backing HF after yesterday. I'm inclined to think it's because something happened at night, but that's just speculation. I'm greatful hope has made a case against damdred who is my number 1 scum right now, but it just felt like he was under pressure from all the votes he was getting and prolly thought he could get support from me. He could've picked me on his case which had far more backing than damdred at the time because it was only me that was thinking he was scummy so based on scum motivation of gutting easy targets I think he is town. He didn't pick the easy target and went for the uphill struggle. Which leads me to believe he is town and genuinely thinks damdred is scummy and it's not just a show so he can be let off the hook.
As for damdred, he's gutting me while I'm injured. I got battered on d1, got an upper cut from storr today and got jabbed on by everyone. I'm so easy and he even made a case against me and yet he isn't voting me??? Why? Because there is an easier target in the from of hopeless as he has a stack of votes on him. It doesn't look weird either just hop on the hopeless train because the general consensus except for BH and kel is to lynch hopeless today. Mafia loves to pick easy targets and chose 2 of the easiest targets in the game in a row. You even voted your partner on day1 to avoid suspicion. And you know what else? you voted OO last. I don't know what else screams useless bandwagon vote than that. Your case on me wasn't original you followed storr. You tried to deflect the issue on OO by saying that he wasn't going to be lynched that day anyway by having that weird convo with obi.
On October 07 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.
Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all. What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it? You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything. Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy. I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this. Right now he is scheduled to be lynched but i agree that he probably won't be lynched. However looking at reactions from votes is important to though.
On October 07 2014 12:35 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On October 07 2014 11:55 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote:On October 07 2014 10:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 10:35 Damdred wrote:On October 07 2014 09:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 07 2014 09:18 Damdred wrote:
We have past games on BH stored in the database though you can go look at them. We are just telling you that THIS is not an alignment thing that BH does. Its pretty obvious that BH seems interested in D1 so far and is contributing so i'm giving him a big town slap on the back right now.
Hell even in his big RNG post he said hewas willing to go over to a better case...though BH does get kind of tunneled sometimes. But why wouldn't OO fight with everything he had not to be the lynch? He just went and voted himself instead, thats the disturbing part of it all. What conclusion are you drawing from his self vote/actions leading up to it? You say it's disturbing but you haven't followed it up with anything. Of course its disturbing in that he did not fight at all really acted excited about it. I guess a trolling town could act like that and its not alignment showing at all in that regard. But no fight whatsoever was drawn out of OO just an acceptance which is scummy. I don't really see how it matters either way when nobody is actually going to lynch him like this. Right now he is scheduled to be lynched but i agree that he probably won't be lynched. However looking at reactions from votes is important to though. So what's so important about his reaction? You've basically just admitted that his reaction doesn't matter since he won't be lynched, but you're saying his reaction is important. That is incorrect obi, you put words in my mouth. I didn't say that because he won't be lynched probably his reaction does not matter. Reactions matter all the time how you handle pressure etc.
That was just weird man. Awful. You got busted.
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On October 11 2014 08:06 KelsierSC wrote:
What did you think of dams defence vs hope
if i answer are you willing to chnage your vote or are you just dipping your toes in the water?
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yea i wanna hear HF finding dirt on kel
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shoot slam plz if there's a vig or even palmar for that matter
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On October 11 2014 10:35 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
Like slam you already announced that you're TRYING to be misread day 1 or w/e so there's no point even trying to question you if your ultimate goal is to mislead people into reading you as something you're not. It's just a waste of time to even bother. Yes but you thinks I own perfection? For should not there be a mistake in the act, revealing to thee my true motive?
you have no motive man
just like HF trolling but at least he made up reasons lol
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On October 11 2014 10:43 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2014 10:39 Holyflare wrote:On October 11 2014 10:35 Alakaslam wrote:On October 11 2014 10:30 Holyflare wrote:
Like slam you already announced that you're TRYING to be misread day 1 or w/e so there's no point even trying to question you if your ultimate goal is to mislead people into reading you as something you're not. It's just a waste of time to even bother. Yes but you thinks I own perfection? For should not there be a mistake in the act, revealing to thee my true motive? I don't think you own anything, revealing what you're doing has no meaning really, i just want you to play and have actual reads like you used to when i played with you in newbies and even though you spammed like crazy actually gave good insight into things. Now you're just devolving into spam, want to deceive people and aren't really bothered how things go in the scheme of things or at least don't make it known. Your day 1 start i was actually happy you were playing. Now i am not. I burnout. 500rwhp you know. When none try @ me I also cease to try @ them. Thing is I conftown too fast; I cannot tell what feo what except by FIGHT but not fight over whether or not I should be banned. That is horse feces. However Coag used to get amusement from that and DP might think it was funny so I don't worry about that anymore. Anyway yup someone said BH would be insufferable Guess what
so what you're basically saying is..."I'm bored no one thinks me as scum so I'm just gonna troll from now on"
Do you wanna be in my shoes bro?
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it's 6-4 if me and you vote obi it's 6-6
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