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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 09 2014 10:39 GMT
#1401
I have literally 0 doubt. It's extremely towny to claim when he did because it makes us avoid any confusion.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
October 09 2014 10:41 GMT
#1402
Can't be 100% sure, but

a) vigis should shoot night 1, so assuming our vigi isn't retarded it was the smart thing to do to shoot n1. If no one counterclaims vigi it's not unreasonable to think it might be a legitimate claim. Also, if there IS another vigi, he shouldn't even counterclaim. Just shoot the fuck out of Grack tonight, so even in that case, the problem will solve itself. Less work for me!

b) if he is mafia, gambled on claiming vigi, and we happened to not roll a vigi, we'll have to deal with it later. We can always check him, or just lynch him if his second shot is stupid.

Shooting Oats was basically okay from what I read on day 1. Oats basically flipped out over some stupid claiming thing, and didn't do much else.
Computer says mafia
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 09 2014 10:42 GMT
#1403
Shooting oats only helped town
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 09 2014 10:48 GMT
#1404
if you say so
liancourt
Profile Joined September 2014
1563 Posts
October 09 2014 10:54 GMT
#1405
then what i don't understand is why he'd claim because he'll die by mafia hands on n2. the medic? what if mafia shot a vet?

Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 09 2014 11:17 GMT
#1406
On October 09 2014 19:54 liancourt wrote:
then what i don't understand is why he'd claim because he'll die by mafia hands on n2. the medic? what if mafia shot a vet?



Why would he die n2 when he could be medic saved...? Are mafia just going to guess whether there is a vet or medic and then risk shooting him anyway? I really don't think so.
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 09 2014 11:30 GMT
#1407
Look this is irrelevant. Hopeless is the best lynch if you are town. If you aren't you can keep talking along these useless lines.
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 09 2014 12:38 GMT
#1408
Would lynch:
Hopeless
Damdred
Kelsier
Maybe Store
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 12:53 GMT
#1409
On October 09 2014 21:38 batsnacks wrote:
Would lynch:
Hopeless
Damdred
Kelsier
Maybe Store


why?
Zerg for Life
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 09 2014 13:04 GMT
#1410
On October 09 2014 21:53 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 21:38 batsnacks wrote:
Would lynch:
Hopeless
Damdred
Kelsier
Maybe Store


why?


I'll "reasons" later. Would like damdred to post things.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:19 GMT
#1411
Alright Going to give where I am at right now.

I am basically 100% convinced that Obi is mafia.

Around the voting stage and post lynch he was really scummy. He tried to get some weird lynch going on palmar and then backed off it, left his vote on hf in some over the top display of outrage, seemed upset after the vote where we caught mafia.

So in the night phase he says something like" oh we should lynch outside of the OO wagon", which is like such a generic and obviously incorrect thing to say. Also because it means he wants to lynch Storr,grack,bs and palmar, who are clearly town in my eyes.
Then despite saying this he says yeh lets lynch lian/hope. Both of who voted on OO. even though he said we should lynch outside the OO vote.

Then HF claims he is cop, and even though hf is obi's top mafia obi is like "yeh lets get hope!" he doesn't even question that hf is the real cop even though he was his top scum. I don't understand how in his eyes he can blindly follow hf.

Since then all his posts are just "lynch hope" "why aren't you lynching hope".

So i'm sure obi is mafia which makes it pretty obvious to me that hope is town.

The third mafia.

Between Slam, Dama, lian.

I need to see more of dam but I read him as town d1 and his play is consistent with the way he played last game and he got heat for it that game aswell.
Slam I want to post more.
Lian I read as scum previously and of that group of 3 he is the scummiest.
Zerg for Life
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 09 2014 13:24 GMT
#1412
I don't understand at all why Liam is scummy.
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:25 GMT
#1413
Hopeless is in my towncircle too. Definitely don't hate his filter because it looks like he's trying to push the thread forward and isn't getting bogged down in nonsense. I'm just getting strong townfeels from him. (Though I don't know how you expected me to get a ton of things down when someone is putting me through the ringer for next to nothing so early. Idk.)


He also posted this, and then the next thing he posts about hopeless is how he is mafia, I don't see any progression of the the read at all.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:30 GMT
#1414
On October 09 2014 22:24 batsnacks wrote:
I don't understand at all why Liam is scummy.


Well storr zerg made a good case on him which I agree with.

My personal reason was that he gave his list post in which everyone was null
and then said he didn't want to lynch OO for a principaled reason even though the RNG thing happened much earlier and was irrelevant.

Also

On October 07 2014 19:18 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 18:34 liancourt wrote:

See i don't like this "well last game blah blah blah..." I can't emphathize with you if you use this kind of logic.


I use this logic if I have played with that person before.

Show nested quote +


I don't think I ever said storr and damd were a better lynch than OO. I said I was reluctant on OO because it would mean following the random vote which I'm kinda against. I can still wait on more info on storr and damd before i make my final decison so it's ok.


well what you said is that your 3 would be storr, damd and palmer.

Even though OO has been scummier and storr/damd have contributed more than him.

this means you would lynch storr/damd over OO by your reasoning right.

I don't know, I just think you don't want to vote OO just because it is a random vote but he is acting scummy as fuck and that is a good reason to lynch him over others. so using "oh it was random" at this point is kind of a weak defence. I would happily lynch OO right now tbh.




Finally I think the 3rd mafia hid his vote on OO and out of slam,dam and lian I find lian scummiest.
Zerg for Life
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 09 2014 13:33 GMT
#1415
I think you just gave the same reason three times... Because he said he didn't want to vote OO because of RNG?

Is that wrong?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:35 GMT
#1416
On October 09 2014 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think you just gave the same reason three times... Because he said he didn't want to vote OO because of RNG?

Is that wrong?


No I made that point once.

The quote was about how he would rather lynch storr/damd over OO which makes no sense to me.
Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:35 GMT
#1417
On October 09 2014 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think you just gave the same reason three times... Because he said he didn't want to vote OO because of RNG?

Is that wrong?


Also using the RNG defence at that time was irrelvant, we were lynching OO because he was scummy as fuck not because of RNG.
Zerg for Life
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
October 09 2014 13:36 GMT
#1418
On October 09 2014 22:35 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think you just gave the same reason three times... Because he said he didn't want to vote OO because of RNG?

Is that wrong?


No I made that point once.

The quote was about how he would rather lynch storr/damd over OO which makes no sense to me.


Didn't he vote OO though?
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:39 GMT
#1419
On October 09 2014 22:36 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 22:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think you just gave the same reason three times... Because he said he didn't want to vote OO because of RNG?

Is that wrong?


No I made that point once.

The quote was about how he would rather lynch storr/damd over OO which makes no sense to me.


Didn't he vote OO though?


RIght when it was clear OO was going to be lynched.

Zerg for Life
KelsierSC
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United Kingdom10443 Posts
October 09 2014 13:40 GMT
#1420
On October 09 2014 22:36 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2014 22:35 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 09 2014 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
I think you just gave the same reason three times... Because he said he didn't want to vote OO because of RNG?

Is that wrong?


No I made that point once.

The quote was about how he would rather lynch storr/damd over OO which makes no sense to me.


Didn't he vote OO though?


But I didn't like how he said he would rather lynch storr/damd over them.

And his reason for not voting OO at that time was bad imo.
Zerg for Life
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