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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 07:25 GMT
#519
On October 07 2014 16:22 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 11:05 Alakaslam wrote:
I have seen this same dumb shut storm in 5 games already.

3 in which I played.

Liancourt I now know, you are not a smurf.


Care to elaborate?

Yup won't take long

BH is BH and this is what he does.

Most effective policy if you disagree is to ignore him; if you haven't learned this you haven't read much of him

If you haven't read much of him you have not been here long.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 07:28 GMT
#521
On October 07 2014 16:22 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 16:22 Alakaslam wrote:
What about ObiWanShinobi changing his story


can you quote that

Better, I will give you a direct in thread link to a previous quoting. Read the nested quotes.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=25#494
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 07:29 GMT
#522
On October 07 2014 16:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
like this bit right?
Show nested quote +
I think Obi is quite clearly town, Since he got in the game he has been active and questioning Dama and Lian seems like the correct angle as both appear a bit scummy ( I read Dam as town but that is because I played with him before)
he seems to be reading the game the same way as me. Doesn't like the RNG nonsense and wants town to discuss something else. He seems genuinely pissed off with HF voting him out the blue.

How has he been questioning damdred and lian?
How is disliking the RNG nonsense townie?
How is he pissed off?
And how does this come together to make him totally totally town?
What do you disagree with HF/Grack?

Who are you quoting there OatsMaster
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 07:33 GMT
#525
On October 07 2014 16:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 16:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Just to update on HF.

I think his interaction with obi makes him scummy.

Firstly he asked "when are you going to do something" when it seems to me that obi was asking questions and trying to get things done. Then he just votes him out of the blue for the reason of "filter"...ok that is just a terrible explanation. if you are going to vote on someone at least accuse them of something scummy.
Then it turns out his huge reason is because obi hasn't called anyone town or scum instantly . It is reasonable that obi has reads but didn't want to give them yet or he was getting his reads based on questioning dam/lia.
Just felt like HF called him scum and then had to find a reason for it.

clearly you arent reading hard enough. HF gave a fine explanation and even explained why he said "filter" in the first place.

And you dont understand the reasoning behind HF's case.
HF is saying that Obi keeps complaining about there not being content but Obi isnt doing anything to create content. No analysis. No reread then some new insight. Just chitchatting with Damdred.

Obi doesnt even use the defense that you proposed which means its clearly not what Obi was doing.

Therefore you're townread on him is bad and that means you are scum.
##vote KelsierSC

Oats

My smurf, you know him?

You are being [image loading]

I cannot catch up with you

Slow down

Kusplain
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 07:41 GMT
#527
Like I need
[image loading]

That took too long to find
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 07:42 GMT
#529
On October 07 2014 16:41 Alakaslam wrote:
Like I need
[image loading]

That took too long to find

Ppl plz
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 07:45 GMT
#530
Fine I figure this out later
[image loading]
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 08:44 GMT
#542
Hey you asked.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 08:47 GMT
#543
On October 07 2014 17:21 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 16:22 Alakaslam wrote:
What about ObiWanShinobi changing his story


what story did he change?

I will link you to the post that will link you to where I already answered this with a link to a quote someone else made explaining the answer to this question.

Read that whole page while you are at it kthx

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/468053-fantasy-football-ffl-mini?page=27#521

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 15:13 GMT
#594
On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 17:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Lian who are your mafia at the moment?

You said people were overreacting and iffy but do you have any people you would lynch right now?


At first I was thinking of BH because of his RNG but then obi and slam says it's his original playstyle so I'm a bit reluctant to think of him as scum and BH's posts seem legit also.

Then there's grack who voted for OO. Following a random vote in my eyes is pretty scummy to me, but then he switched votes so I'm back to null.

And then you have obi and HF. HF does have valid points and I think obi is just voting HF just because HF is voting for him. In my eyes it's two townies fighting.

We have the overreacting oats I town read him earlier if i recall correctly due to his reactions in the earlier part of the thread.

The iffy hopeless, I haven't been paying attention to his posts for some reason so I need to see his filter. I'll come back on this.

Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles.

Bats the trapper seems pretty townie to me deducing from his earlier interactions with oats.

I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing.

Lastly there's you, I also need to look at your filter so I'll comeback on this.




I hope you are good at this because I generally agree.

Short the fact that BH from the start of RNG.

Hmm.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 15:30 GMT
#597
On October 07 2014 22:28 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 22:16 Holyflare wrote:
Obi had 24 hours of game time to read the thread, make conclusions and post reads. I can get that he is busy but the first thing he said on his return was that he was reading the thread. After about half an hour of apparently not reading the thread he returns and only repeatedly told people that what bh was doing wasn't scummy hence why I called him out on not doing anything useful because it was already stated multiple times that what BH was doing is in fact null. So not only does he skirt by with no real reads he appears to contribute in lieu of actually participating by rehashing the same thing over and over again.


The parts about continuing to harp on about BH stuff is moderately useful since people continue to talk about it. Seriously guys STOP WITH THE RNG DISCUSSION.

I was under the impression that obi had actually read the thread and was about to...do...things, once he'd gotten people to drop the RNG discussion. Evidently I was wrong. Obi do you have any reads based on...reading?

Skimming through what happened over the night, Grack is way townier than I implied earlier. He's not only generating content, its useful content, as opposed to incessantly trolling/joking.

Slam with some more g8 b8 m8. Slam why are you so scummy? Who are your partners?

As with others, waiting on storr's awesome case.

Oats/Kelsier discussion was really meh.

Liancourt's list post is a wall of wishwash. Would #lynchwithfire.

Nay my skill is too great

You cannot see my partners for my scumminess

I gone done naw thing useful

No scum hunting, no reads, just sheepin'

Yet I got dis townpass because I so SKILLT @ scum play

See I am out there, just spray piss in the air & stuff

Palmer however
[image loading]

So classy you know why he be town

Hiiiiijole

BUT YOU CANNOT LYNCH ME

CURSE OF ALAKASLAM @ WORK

I WILL SURVIVE

so I defense myself from attack! Make the attax you know how scummy I iz
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 17:07 GMT
#643
I don't care at this point ObviousOne gets a lynch
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 17:50 GMT
#661
Your case left my solid null completely alone.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 17:51 GMT
#662
Rofl what
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 17:52 GMT
#663
Liancourt can defense hisself or shouldnae mafia.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 18:35 GMT
#670
On October 08 2014 03:21 Palmar wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch BH for that post.

Y
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 18:40 GMT
#671
On October 03 2014 08:14 ObviousOne wrote:
Based host has playerlist at the top of OP

Are you ready for the prodigal return?

/in

Ever since RNG plus COAG used it on OMGUS I see this as


[image loading]

This

Used without permission from Coag, OMGUS.net, and COAG. All rights unreserved
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 19:00 GMT
#674
On October 08 2014 03:52 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 00:38 StorrZerg wrote:
The Damning Case of liancourt

On October 07 2014 01:27 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:07 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 06 2014 13:56 liancourt wrote:
it must be because i like vanilla ice cream

plain as can be


Hmm claims in first post


On October 07 2014 00:51 liancourt wrote:
I dont think we can scum read oats based on him agreeing to the mass claim when in the first place it was bats who suggested it. Although his reactions afterwards seems a little over reactive . But I do believe that he was joking when he claimed town. I mean theres no other option but to claim vt. You cant scrutinize him for that.

Also I find it strange everyone agrees on the fact that it was a trap set by bats. Its the perfect excuse for scum to say something was a trap and point fingers at random people.



i don't see why we couldn't read oats for the interaction.

I think you can look into it, the he is reacting is very in the opposite direction of his "joke" so much so that its odd he even did the joke in the first place if he really truly feels like that.

I disagree that bats looks scummy for something like this. Comes from a town mindset in my eyes, to be catching scum.

I think you have actually moved up to my #1 scum


Town mindset? Please explain how its a town mindset that bats has. And why am I scum?



This is my frist prod. Now lets look at the questions he asks. Interested in why bats is town (cool fine) interested in why "he is scum" , not "why are you reading me scum" Now the reason i am reading him scum for these 2 posts is because of how he approches the situation. Its very early day 1, and its "we can't scum read oats for this" yet "i agree he over reacted"
how ever "i think he joked" you kinda see the ebb and flow of this guys play. And this kind of talking is going to be very repetitive and not productive for town. He isn't taking a stance on situations, he is giving himself room for error, its overtly cautious play.

Now the reason for quoting his soft / hard claim. I find his commenting on oats combined with his claim contradicting. He has an asap claim (after slam) that he is VT. (so he is following in the foot steps of someone else) Then admits the only one option to claim and that's VT, and is against that bats did anything helpful. (and bats is likely scummy for doing so) Yet he doesn't actually calls bat scum for it. "it is a perfect excuse for scum to say" He isn't calling bats scum, he is just saying bats could be scum for making that play. There fore he isn't taking a stance on bats.

On October 07 2014 01:38 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Holyflare, Storrzerg, batsnacks team calling it nao

Gimme dat baller shot caller épée-

Wait this is not OMGUS.net


Id take out hf because I agree with his points on hopeless.


Commenting on slams scum team. He takes out HF for agreeing with hopeless, yet he really hasn't said much on myself. Sure he has all ready called bats as "maybe scum" Yet he hasn't talked about me at all. If anything this points to an omgus reaction to me calling him out.

On October 07 2014 09:37 liancourt wrote:
From day 1 what I'm getting is

oats just over reacting

OO acting strangely i admit

hopeless iffy and hasn't responded to HF

I can't seem to get anything else meaningful except for the fact that damdred and gracks seem to be only questioning others and not really saying anything themselves.


I really don't like this post, its a generalization of whats going on, with no effort to further the game. He has been against RNG lynch, but is "coming around" on the lead wagon with "OO" is strange sure... Again, he doesn't have a case of his own, or pushing anyone he thinks is scummy. Just content with small town reads here and there, 1 liners.


On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 17:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Lian who are your mafia at the moment?

You said people were overreacting and iffy but do you have any people you would lynch right now?


At first I was thinking of BH because of his RNG but then obi and slam says it's his original playstyle so I'm a bit reluctant to think of him as scum and BH's posts seem legit also.

Then there's grack who voted for OO. Following a random vote in my eyes is pretty scummy to me, but then he switched votes so I'm back to null.

And then you have obi and HF. HF does have valid points and I think obi is just voting HF just because HF is voting for him. In my eyes it's two townies fighting.

We have the overreacting oats I town read him earlier if i recall correctly due to his reactions in the earlier part of the thread.

The iffy hopeless, I haven't been paying attention to his posts for some reason so I need to see his filter. I'll come back on this.

Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles.

Bats the trapper seems pretty townie to me deducing from his earlier interactions with oats.

I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing.

Lastly there's you, I also need to look at your filter so I'll comeback on this.




The question is, who does he think are scummy?

1. bh. Null
2. grack Null
3. obi hf 2 town fighting
4. oats town
5. hopeless is iffy, hasn't been paying attention to him.
6. Back to OO being strange
7. bats town

So "damd palmar storr" as mafia? (yes he puts it in a question mark. Is he unsure he walked through everyone? is he sure he picked the right people to call mafia? 2 people fairly inactive. )
His scum read on damd is "not giving away to much" since he only asks questions
and scum read on palmar + storr "haven't done anything worth mentioning"

And of course ends with "but ill wait until tomorrow until they opst to be sure" he is leaving himself an out, an escape to make sure people don't read to much into what he is saying.

He was asked a direct question of who he thinks are scum. And the response is in its basic form, a list post full with null kinda towns strange iffy, and 2 inactive people as possible mafia. This is scummy play.

On October 07 2014 18:34 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:17 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:


I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing.







So I don't really like this point actually. Firstly I give Damd a town read, like I remember his playstyle from last game and he is acting exactly the same when he was town. Also saying storr hasn't done anything isn't true, I have a memory of him pressuring you actually.
But like I don't really agree with the 3 people who aren't talking are the scum. In your reads through everyone is "iffy" or "strange" and you want to lynch the people not talking.
Why is storr or Damd a better lynch than OO for example?


See i don't like this "well last game blah blah blah..." I can't emphathize with you if you use this kind of logic. I'll have to read storr's filter then. So do we just leave the 2 people to keep not talking? I don't know about you but I lean more towards scum reading those who make excuses for their inactivity and what not than reading them as null. I guess you could say it's the same reasoning behind why I don't like randm voting. I can't get what they're thinking if they vote random or do nothing. Just makes me think they're low lying scum.

I don't think I ever said storr and damd were a better lynch than OO. I said I was reluctant on OO because it would mean following the random vote which I'm kinda against. I can still wait on more info on storr and damd before i make my final decison so it's ok.


Questioned again on who his scum are and the big thing that points out is "i don't think i ever said storr and damd were a better lynch than OO" How ever by the virtue of his list post he did. He points out as OO being possible town, and then STRANGE.

And ends with 3 scum within palmar damd storr" More overly defensive posting, and avoiding of finding scum.




So liancourt is content with asking questions, giving light town reads, as a claimed vt, he is unwilling to actually pressure anyone.

#LYNCHWITHFIRE
##Vote liancourt




So basically what you're saying is that I'm indecisive and unsure and that makes me scum. I pressured BH and that doesn't count now?

Oh and

Vote ObviousOne

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VOTE THE FAILED IN!
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 19:06 GMT
#677
On October 08 2014 04:03 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 01:32 Holyflare wrote:
On October 08 2014 01:26 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 08 2014 01:24 Holyflare wrote:
On October 08 2014 01:23 Hopeless1der wrote:
On October 08 2014 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
On October 07 2014 22:48 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF can you confirm/quote OO saying he doesnt care to play scum, I cant find it.


totally misremembered what he said but I looked it up and it was that he has no idea what to do as scum and that the one time he played it he just bussed dp and did nothing else all game, I mixed it up with his general inactivity that game and voila! He's still a very good lynch though.

u srs..

On October 08 2014 01:15 Holyflare wrote:
his original scum reads were based on good reasons, people siding on the rng wagon and then doing nothing which he's subsequently updated and poe'd people down to those 3/4


So he told people why they were scummy, they stopped doing the things that made them scum so now they are not scum. That..is way too straightforward.


so sue me, it's my read and i'm sticking to it

Seriously, how trivial are lian's reads? He runs a check for

If (Vote RNG candidate), Scum
Else, Town

That's an updated read? Are you fucking shitting me HF?


He came up with the idea that being on an rng wagon would be a very convenient place to hide because then people are just following a rng post and they don't give any information, that IS scummy and is the correct thing to point out. Then, when people who he is scum reading start to interact more and flesh out things he drops that scum read because it goes against what he was originally saying. He continues to scum read BH because he hasn't played with BH and what BH does is terrible=scummy, hearing a million people say it is in fact null moved him to seriously reconsider his stance on BH from scummy to null. His read on oats was before most people even said anything about oats and gave oats room to express more things and in fact showed better reading comprehension than me/batsnacks etc etc. The only weird thing is the OO thing and I'd much rather he explained himself out fully on this instead because I envisage that another skydragon event will occur.

Just because you disagree with his thought process does not mean that it is quite evidently there.


This.

Sends shivers down my spine as to how accurate you are on my thought processes.

I push BH then god knows millions others come in defending him saying oh it's not "allignment indicative" so I back off. I'm not a stubborn man, I'm a simple man I can be convinced to think the other way. The thing with OO lets see I voted him against my principles of following the random vote. I got convinced that it shouldn't really matter matter whether he is a random vote or not so there you have it.

allllingmint

XD you are probably talking about me

Sson i dunneven know who is scum what do you think
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
October 07 2014 19:12 GMT
#680
On October 08 2014 04:09 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 04:07 Holyflare wrote:
On October 08 2014 04:05 batsnacks wrote:
HF is accurate because Liam is town

If Liam is scum HF is not accurate


im not sure how this makes sense either


I can't manufacture sense I'm just posting because I'm bored. I will stop if this annoys you but I won't stop if it annoys hopeless.

lololol what

What does annoyance have to do with chupazi? Annoy everyone
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