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Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 08 2014 01:07 GMT
#861
you actually have to read to find that out
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 08 2014 01:07 GMT
#862
On October 08 2014 08:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 08:07 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 08 2014 07:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 08 2014 07:53 Blazinghand wrote:
I gotta say, I don't view the lack of pushback on the OO lynch as a serious problem. If he's playing like this as scum, why would his scumteam do anything to save him? They'd obviously bus him.

I disagree. It's one thing to be open to lynching him and its another thing to just completely ignore the obi suspicion when HF/I were pushing hard on obi. I feel pretty strongly that if OO is scum and Obi is town then there would be some people agreeing with Obi being scum so they have another option to switch to if OO ends up not being the lynch.

OK, let's say I grant you that scum would consider other lynches if OO was scum. Let's say that's true, for the sake of this argument.

Consider the alternative situation. Let's say OO is town, right? You're scum and you see this apathetic, useless townie going up for the lynch. Do you just hop on the wagon mindlessly (remember, this is a somewhat contested wagon, people are saying things like "people are voting this wagon so they don't have to discuss") or do you try to bring up an alternative lynch candidate? As scum, you want to appear to be that paranoid townie who didn't trust the D1 wagon, if OO was town. It would be like "OO the townie has been lynched!" and then the scum player would be like "ugh, come on guys, look at this long post I wrote (on another townie), that despite my pushing was ignored! Come on, guys! get with the program!" and he'd collect town cred.

So, I think we can agree scum would consider other lynches if OO was town, too, right? In fact, I think no matter what OO's alignment is, it makes sense for scum to push other lynches because his lynch, though contested, is inevitable and there's little to be gained by pushing it. Now, does it make sense to raise a huge rabble and draw a ton of attention to yourself as scum in this situation? I think regardless of OO's alignment, the answer is "no". Whatever OO will flip, you want to do a decent effort on pushing another wagon (or at least one person on the team should), but in a quiet D1 like this rocking the boat will only draw attention.

In any case, I guess the point I'm getting at here is it's reasonable to say that scum will push OR not push another wagon, either way, at some moderate amount, regardless of OO's alignment. Your statement, which is that scum would push another wagon if OO was scum, is also true for if OO is town, and so isn't useful in determining OO's alignment.


God, I hate associative tells between unflipped people

I agree scum would want to have other suspicions if OO is town and some people did consider Liancourt scum when Storr wrote some things about Liancourt. I just didn't see anyone consider obi scum when HF/I really put a lot of effort into trying to make people consider obi scum so that makes me believe obi is mafia regardless of OO. But yeah scum would be even more incentivized to suspect Obi if the wagon is already falling on mafia.

This really isn't helpful for other people because it could just be no mafia is joining because HF/I are mafia and we were trying to find a mislynch but I just like to look at games in this way.


Some of my wat to you grack.

In your worldview, scum1 could be lead wagon, you then make a case on scum2 and expect scum3 to jump ship (busses)?
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 01:08 GMT
#863
I read it. I saw Grack being shit and I saw Palmar voting me for not standing out.

Which he has done twice now and has been wrong both times.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 01:08 GMT
#864
Also, I heard batsnacks was voting me.

So that is a thing.
Retired.
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 08 2014 01:11 GMT
#865
whered OO run off to? oO
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 01:11 GMT
#866
He called us hitlers and left.

I am hurt.
Retired.
Damdred
Profile Joined July 2014
15669 Posts
October 08 2014 01:12 GMT
#867
Meh I'm going to vote for oo he hasn't tried to bleed town yet
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 08 2014 01:16 GMT
#868
Man you have no idea how happy I'm going to be when OO flips scum
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 01:20 GMT
#869
Have people actually made cases on OO?

It's a plynch and nothing more. I don't get why you guys try to convince people with these giant walls and stuff.
Retired.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 08 2014 01:21 GMT
#870
Of course it's a plynch! It's RNG! That's what's so glorious about it. Even better, it's ALSO a lurker plynch! Man, this is so awesome I can barely contain myself.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
October 08 2014 01:25 GMT
#871
honestly, he showed up, voted BH and bitched us out a little. If he doesn't flip scum I'm gonna be sad.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 08 2014 01:26 GMT
#872
Right now there's basically nothing that could cause me to unvote him
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 01:27 GMT
#873
Who's down for a second CFD onto Palmar?

The first one was hilarious. The second will be doubly so.
Retired.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 08 2014 01:27 GMT
#874
On October 08 2014 10:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Who's down for a second CFD onto Palmar?

The first one was hilarious. The second will be doubly so.


So I guess you're scum with OO then
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 01:28 GMT
#875
On October 08 2014 10:27 Blazinghand wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 10:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Who's down for a second CFD onto Palmar?

The first one was hilarious. The second will be doubly so.


So I guess you're scum with OO then


Yep.

ggnore
Retired.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 08 2014 01:31 GMT
#876
On October 08 2014 10:28 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 10:27 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 08 2014 10:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Who's down for a second CFD onto Palmar?

The first one was hilarious. The second will be doubly so.


So I guess you're scum with OO then


Yep.

ggnore


Seriously though you've said nothing about Palmar all game. I'll wait until after the OO flip of course but come on buddy
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
October 08 2014 01:33 GMT
#877
doesn't mention anything about palmar, doesn't say anything about the people voting him even though he thinks they were mafia before, wants to lynch palmar

wut
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 01:34 GMT
#878
Nha. Palmar looks okay atm and I think he's kinda town. I just think it'd be funny if he woke up lynched again.

In all seriousness, I don't particularly care for this OO lynch but I doubt I have any say in the matter. I don't really see any targets of mine that people will lynch any time soon.

I just really don't like plynches for this reason. Even if they somehow hit scum (they never do) I always get a little frustrated because I feel like nothing gets accomplished by doing so.
Retired.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 08 2014 01:35 GMT
#879
On October 08 2014 10:33 Holyflare wrote:
doesn't mention anything about palmar, doesn't say anything about the people voting him even though he thinks they were mafia before, wants to lynch palmar

wut


This guy is still scum, btw.
Retired.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25563 Posts
October 08 2014 01:35 GMT
#880
normally here's where I say we lynch OWS, but two things

1. it's an associative tell between unflipped players
2. I just really want OO dead
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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