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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:18 GMT
#739
On October 08 2014 06:17 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 06:15 Palmar wrote:
You understand the "fan" post has nothing to do with the game at hand, I just like slam's posting in general, and I don't like how batsnacks plays the game. Go read the last game if you need any explanation as to why batsnacks is a dick and shouldn't be listened to.


so you made a post of no value that shouldn't be listened to

Of no value, yes. shouldn't be listened to, no.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:21 GMT
#742
On October 08 2014 06:19 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 05:53 Palmar wrote:
On October 08 2014 05:26 KelsierSC wrote:
@Palmar

Can you give your views on the Grak/HF/Obi interaction.

Nope, haven't read any of it.


when exactly are you going to post anything so I can analyze you?

I already am!
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:27 GMT
#749
Your word is good enough for me. So who do we lynch?

I skimmed Oats' filter. I wasn't there, was he really that pissed off about some asshats claiming like they do every game?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:33 GMT
#753
On October 08 2014 06:21 Hopeless1der wrote:
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On October 08 2014 06:16 Palmar wrote:
Like I have literally no clue what you're talking about Hopeless

I know you like to say you never read anything but....seriously? You havent seen BH do his "This post# Mod playercount = RNG lynch 10000%" before?

Yes but I was under the impression that didn't matter (BH has clarified now). The posts I read it looked like BH was mostly lynching OO for inactivity and being disinterested, and he also mentioned something about how OO reacted to something.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:40 GMT
#759
On October 08 2014 06:36 liancourt wrote:
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On October 08 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote:
Also batsnacks is probably town for being the one to point out the scumslip. Mafia doesn't have the balls to do something this stupid.

This means we can all safely just ignore batsnacks for the rest of the game, as it's unlikely anything he says is actually of any value.


a moment ago you said the scumslip was irrelevant and now you say for pointing out the scumslip bats must be town?

And you go on to say we should ignore him for the rest of the game? Even if you have a town read on him you should never just ignore him unless your 100% certain he is confirmed town.

To me thats like saying bats is my mafia homie ignore him please so that he can lie low and keep him alive.

I'll use that scum stamp hope gave me.

palmar
[image loading]

This guy 4rela?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:41 GMT
#761
Also you actually have to Mspaint in reasons, otherwise you're just being a shitty copypaster.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:54 GMT
#770
On October 08 2014 06:51 Hopeless1der wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 06:49 liancourt wrote:
On October 08 2014 06:15 Palmar wrote:
You understand the "fan" post has nothing to do with the game at hand, I just like slam's posting in general, and I don't like how batsnacks plays the game. Go read the last game if you need any explanation as to why batsnacks is a dick and shouldn't be listened to.


So give us your alignment for them. I am willing to give you time to keep reading the thread as you clearly have not read even half of it.

no u
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 06:05 Palmar wrote:
Also batsnacks is probably town for being the one to point out the scumslip. Mafia doesn't have the balls to do something this stupid.

This means we can all safely just ignore batsnacks for the rest of the game, as it's unlikely anything he says is actually of any value.


yeah, this.

And slam, I'm not even going to try.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:55 GMT
#771
batsnacks with the associative reads

#proscumhunter
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 22:00 GMT
#774
On October 08 2014 06:57 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 06:55 Palmar wrote:
batsnacks with the associative reads

#proscumhunter


It's not an associative read. I think his vote is fake even if they're not both scum, which I think they both are.

Why are you posting when you haven't read the thread?

Because interactive reads are usually far more valuable than reading after the fact, because you can more accurately process the emotional state of the player involved. This is one of the main reasons that by far the largest contributor to success in mafia is simply spending as much time as you can in front of the thread.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 22:44 GMT
#798
On October 08 2014 07:03 batsnacks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 07:00 Palmar wrote:
On October 08 2014 06:57 batsnacks wrote:
On October 08 2014 06:55 Palmar wrote:
batsnacks with the associative reads

#proscumhunter


It's not an associative read. I think his vote is fake even if they're not both scum, which I think they both are.

Why are you posting when you haven't read the thread?

Because interactive reads are usually far more valuable than reading after the fact, because you can more accurately process the emotional state of the player involved. This is one of the main reasons that by far the largest contributor to success in mafia is simply spending as much time as you can in front of the thread.


You're can't interact with the thread if you haven't read the thread. What you're doing is interacting with yourself.

We're all watching you "interact" with yourself.

Then I'm interacting with the most interesting person in the thread.

I regret nothing.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 22:49 GMT
#803
On October 08 2014 07:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Palmar I want you to read that HF/me/Obi exchange and actually play the game. If Marv were here would you tell him he should be able to town read you by now? No you would not.

To be perfectly fair, a) he would be able to. b) even if he wouldn't admit it, I'd still shove it down his throat.

I sorta know how he reads me so well, and I know I'm basically being the stereotype of that this game.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 23:04 GMT
#811
On October 08 2014 07:56 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 07:53 Blazinghand wrote:
I gotta say, I don't view the lack of pushback on the OO lynch as a serious problem. If he's playing like this as scum, why would his scumteam do anything to save him? They'd obviously bus him.

I disagree. It's one thing to be open to lynching him and its another thing to just completely ignore the obi suspicion when HF/I were pushing hard on obi. I feel pretty strongly that if OO is scum and Obi is town then there would be some people agreeing with Obi being scum so they have another option to switch to if OO ends up not being the lynch.

##vote Obi

Where is your god now?
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 23:09 GMT
#817
tbh the deadline is like 4 am my time. I think a few people are town (mostly storr and batsnacks). I don't wanna lynch lian simply based on effort he's putting in. HF has 6 pages filter. Didn't even read a single post from him. Remember that HF is always a good cop check. BH said he wasn't mafia and who am I to question him.

And I'm bad enough to agree this oo lynch is too ez, although I don't care lynch him. Like if he's town he can die for all I care, I just don't think it's particularly likely he'll flip town.

So I'll leave my vote on ObiWan. In my efforts to skim the game he has literally never stood out, and I think that's a fine enough reason to kill him. I don't really have anything else to back it up with, so if someone makes a grand case on something after I'm sleeping, just roll with that.

I'm off.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 23:10 GMT
#818
So basically what you're saying BH is "it don't even matter bro".
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 23:17 GMT
#822
On October 08 2014 08:16 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 08:07 Blazinghand wrote:
On October 08 2014 07:56 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 08 2014 07:53 Blazinghand wrote:
I gotta say, I don't view the lack of pushback on the OO lynch as a serious problem. If he's playing like this as scum, why would his scumteam do anything to save him? They'd obviously bus him.

I disagree. It's one thing to be open to lynching him and its another thing to just completely ignore the obi suspicion when HF/I were pushing hard on obi. I feel pretty strongly that if OO is scum and Obi is town then there would be some people agreeing with Obi being scum so they have another option to switch to if OO ends up not being the lynch.

OK, let's say I grant you that scum would consider other lynches if OO was scum. Let's say that's true, for the sake of this argument.

Consider the alternative situation. Let's say OO is town, right? You're scum and you see this apathetic, useless townie going up for the lynch. Do you just hop on the wagon mindlessly (remember, this is a somewhat contested wagon, people are saying things like "people are voting this wagon so they don't have to discuss") or do you try to bring up an alternative lynch candidate? As scum, you want to appear to be that paranoid townie who didn't trust the D1 wagon, if OO was town. It would be like "OO the townie has been lynched!" and then the scum player would be like "ugh, come on guys, look at this long post I wrote (on another townie), that despite my pushing was ignored! Come on, guys! get with the program!" and he'd collect town cred.

So, I think we can agree scum would consider other lynches if OO was town, too, right? In fact, I think no matter what OO's alignment is, it makes sense for scum to push other lynches because his lynch, though contested, is inevitable and there's little to be gained by pushing it. Now, does it make sense to raise a huge rabble and draw a ton of attention to yourself as scum in this situation? I think regardless of OO's alignment, the answer is "no". Whatever OO will flip, you want to do a decent effort on pushing another wagon (or at least one person on the team should), but in a quiet D1 like this rocking the boat will only draw attention.

In any case, I guess the point I'm getting at here is it's reasonable to say that scum will push OR not push another wagon, either way, at some moderate amount, regardless of OO's alignment. Your statement, which is that scum would push another wagon if OO was scum, is also true for if OO is town, and so isn't useful in determining OO's alignment.


God, I hate associative tells between unflipped people

I agree scum would want to have other suspicions if OO is town and some people did consider Liancourt scum when Storr wrote some things about Liancourt. I just didn't see anyone consider obi scum when HF/I really put a lot of effort into trying to make people consider obi scum so that makes me believe obi is mafia regardless of OO. But yeah scum would be even more incentivized to suspect Obi if the wagon is already falling on mafia.

This really isn't helpful for other people because it could just be no mafia is joining because HF/I are mafia and we were trying to find a mislynch but I just like to look at games in this way.


Dude I told you in the QT to not bring our strategy up for town.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 23:18 GMT
#824
lol
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 23:23 GMT
#827
this liancourt guy is probably town.
I'm off 4rela now. #lynchObi2014
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 08 2014 08:11 GMT
#954
Thank you based BH. I apologize for my relapse in the faith of RNGesus.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 08 2014 08:17 GMT
#956
HF and Obi are the remaining mafia.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 08 2014 14:41 GMT
#965
Slam are you town?
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