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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 29 2014 08:35 GMT
#13
/in
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 29 2014 13:23 GMT
#15
On September 29 2014 21:59 Promethelax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 29 2014 17:35 Palmar wrote:
/in


Damn right you are.

I rolled you as a fourth party aggressive poop-chute violator. This is fact. I am a host.

I request being Andy Reid.

No matter what happens I'm going to reply with. "We've got to do a better job as a football team".
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
September 29 2014 13:26 GMT
#17
Tbh, I'd make an excellent ESPN too. I could channel my inner Skip Bayless for maximum lulz.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 06 2014 21:23 GMT
#287
I thought this was meant to start monday night.

I'm playing dota, I'll catch up tomorrow.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 06 2014 21:27 GMT
#290
On October 07 2014 06:25 Grackaroni wrote:
Lol there's 10 pages Palmar...

That's 10 more pages than I cba reading
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 13:56 GMT
#584
On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:

I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing.



I haven't read the game yet, but this guy is probably mafia for just assuming that the people who have done literally nothing alignment indicative have somehow a high chance of flipping scum.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 14:00 GMT
#587
On October 07 2014 09:30 StorrZerg wrote:
ill make a case on someone tonight or tomorrow morning i swear its going to be good

#prepthebadwagons


Not to mention, another scumread of his is probably town.

The way this is worded makes it quite likely StorrZerg is town. The assertiveness that his yet-nonexistent case is something to be excited about is far more likely to be from a townie than from mafia.

So there's that.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 14:56 GMT
#589
On October 07 2014 23:14 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 23:00 Palmar wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:30 StorrZerg wrote:
ill make a case on someone tonight or tomorrow morning i swear its going to be good

#prepthebadwagons


Not to mention, another scumread of his is probably town.

The way this is worded makes it quite likely StorrZerg is town. The assertiveness that his yet-nonexistent case is something to be excited about is far more likely to be from a townie than from mafia.

So there's that.


I have only ever watched storrzerg on Mafia Allstars and I think in general he likes to kind of sit back and wait D1 as both alignments. Also Storrzerg seems confident and assertive as both mafia and town so not sure if I like this as a reason to call storr town. I think he is, just not sure I believe this read.



------- reasoning -------->

            you
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 15:00 GMT
#591
On October 07 2014 23:58 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2014 23:56 Palmar wrote:
On October 07 2014 23:14 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 23:00 Palmar wrote:
On October 07 2014 09:30 StorrZerg wrote:
ill make a case on someone tonight or tomorrow morning i swear its going to be good

#prepthebadwagons


Not to mention, another scumread of his is probably town.

The way this is worded makes it quite likely StorrZerg is town. The assertiveness that his yet-nonexistent case is something to be excited about is far more likely to be from a townie than from mafia.

So there's that.


I have only ever watched storrzerg on Mafia Allstars and I think in general he likes to kind of sit back and wait D1 as both alignments. Also Storrzerg seems confident and assertive as both mafia and town so not sure if I like this as a reason to call storr town. I think he is, just not sure I believe this read.



------- reasoning -------->

            you


Well the reason you give for storr being town, isn't actually a good reason because he plays that way as mafia and town. why is that bad reasoning?


Because you're thinking what and I'm thinking how.

But it's ok, I don't particularly care whether you believe me or not unless Storr is in some danger of being lynched.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 18:21 GMT
#669
I kinda wanna lynch BH for that post.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 19:56 GMT
#689
On October 08 2014 03:52 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 00:38 StorrZerg wrote:
The Damning Case of liancourt

On October 07 2014 01:27 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:07 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 06 2014 13:56 liancourt wrote:
it must be because i like vanilla ice cream

plain as can be


Hmm claims in first post


On October 07 2014 00:51 liancourt wrote:
I dont think we can scum read oats based on him agreeing to the mass claim when in the first place it was bats who suggested it. Although his reactions afterwards seems a little over reactive . But I do believe that he was joking when he claimed town. I mean theres no other option but to claim vt. You cant scrutinize him for that.

Also I find it strange everyone agrees on the fact that it was a trap set by bats. Its the perfect excuse for scum to say something was a trap and point fingers at random people.



i don't see why we couldn't read oats for the interaction.

I think you can look into it, the he is reacting is very in the opposite direction of his "joke" so much so that its odd he even did the joke in the first place if he really truly feels like that.

I disagree that bats looks scummy for something like this. Comes from a town mindset in my eyes, to be catching scum.

I think you have actually moved up to my #1 scum


Town mindset? Please explain how its a town mindset that bats has. And why am I scum?



This is my frist prod. Now lets look at the questions he asks. Interested in why bats is town (cool fine) interested in why "he is scum" , not "why are you reading me scum" Now the reason i am reading him scum for these 2 posts is because of how he approches the situation. Its very early day 1, and its "we can't scum read oats for this" yet "i agree he over reacted"
how ever "i think he joked" you kinda see the ebb and flow of this guys play. And this kind of talking is going to be very repetitive and not productive for town. He isn't taking a stance on situations, he is giving himself room for error, its overtly cautious play.

Now the reason for quoting his soft / hard claim. I find his commenting on oats combined with his claim contradicting. He has an asap claim (after slam) that he is VT. (so he is following in the foot steps of someone else) Then admits the only one option to claim and that's VT, and is against that bats did anything helpful. (and bats is likely scummy for doing so) Yet he doesn't actually calls bat scum for it. "it is a perfect excuse for scum to say" He isn't calling bats scum, he is just saying bats could be scum for making that play. There fore he isn't taking a stance on bats.

On October 07 2014 01:38 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 01:31 Alakaslam wrote:
Holyflare, Storrzerg, batsnacks team calling it nao

Gimme dat baller shot caller épée-

Wait this is not OMGUS.net


Id take out hf because I agree with his points on hopeless.


Commenting on slams scum team. He takes out HF for agreeing with hopeless, yet he really hasn't said much on myself. Sure he has all ready called bats as "maybe scum" Yet he hasn't talked about me at all. If anything this points to an omgus reaction to me calling him out.

On October 07 2014 09:37 liancourt wrote:
From day 1 what I'm getting is

oats just over reacting

OO acting strangely i admit

hopeless iffy and hasn't responded to HF

I can't seem to get anything else meaningful except for the fact that damdred and gracks seem to be only questioning others and not really saying anything themselves.


I really don't like this post, its a generalization of whats going on, with no effort to further the game. He has been against RNG lynch, but is "coming around" on the lead wagon with "OO" is strange sure... Again, he doesn't have a case of his own, or pushing anyone he thinks is scummy. Just content with small town reads here and there, 1 liners.


On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 17:04 KelsierSC wrote:
Lian who are your mafia at the moment?

You said people were overreacting and iffy but do you have any people you would lynch right now?


At first I was thinking of BH because of his RNG but then obi and slam says it's his original playstyle so I'm a bit reluctant to think of him as scum and BH's posts seem legit also.

Then there's grack who voted for OO. Following a random vote in my eyes is pretty scummy to me, but then he switched votes so I'm back to null.

And then you have obi and HF. HF does have valid points and I think obi is just voting HF just because HF is voting for him. In my eyes it's two townies fighting.

We have the overreacting oats I town read him earlier if i recall correctly due to his reactions in the earlier part of the thread.

The iffy hopeless, I haven't been paying attention to his posts for some reason so I need to see his filter. I'll come back on this.

Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles.

Bats the trapper seems pretty townie to me deducing from his earlier interactions with oats.

I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing.

Lastly there's you, I also need to look at your filter so I'll comeback on this.




The question is, who does he think are scummy?

1. bh. Null
2. grack Null
3. obi hf 2 town fighting
4. oats town
5. hopeless is iffy, hasn't been paying attention to him.
6. Back to OO being strange
7. bats town

So "damd palmar storr" as mafia? (yes he puts it in a question mark. Is he unsure he walked through everyone? is he sure he picked the right people to call mafia? 2 people fairly inactive. )
His scum read on damd is "not giving away to much" since he only asks questions
and scum read on palmar + storr "haven't done anything worth mentioning"

And of course ends with "but ill wait until tomorrow until they opst to be sure" he is leaving himself an out, an escape to make sure people don't read to much into what he is saying.

He was asked a direct question of who he thinks are scum. And the response is in its basic form, a list post full with null kinda towns strange iffy, and 2 inactive people as possible mafia. This is scummy play.

On October 07 2014 18:34 liancourt wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:17 KelsierSC wrote:
On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:


I think this leaves damd, palmar and storr? Damd is asking questions here and there kind of like an out fighter not giving away too much. Palmar and storr haven't really done anything worth mentioning. So assuming there's 3 scum I'd pick these three. But I'll wait until tomorrow until they post to be sure. Maybe they'll bring in some fresh content that we're missing.







So I don't really like this point actually. Firstly I give Damd a town read, like I remember his playstyle from last game and he is acting exactly the same when he was town. Also saying storr hasn't done anything isn't true, I have a memory of him pressuring you actually.
But like I don't really agree with the 3 people who aren't talking are the scum. In your reads through everyone is "iffy" or "strange" and you want to lynch the people not talking.
Why is storr or Damd a better lynch than OO for example?


See i don't like this "well last game blah blah blah..." I can't emphathize with you if you use this kind of logic. I'll have to read storr's filter then. So do we just leave the 2 people to keep not talking? I don't know about you but I lean more towards scum reading those who make excuses for their inactivity and what not than reading them as null. I guess you could say it's the same reasoning behind why I don't like randm voting. I can't get what they're thinking if they vote random or do nothing. Just makes me think they're low lying scum.

I don't think I ever said storr and damd were a better lynch than OO. I said I was reluctant on OO because it would mean following the random vote which I'm kinda against. I can still wait on more info on storr and damd before i make my final decison so it's ok.


Questioned again on who his scum are and the big thing that points out is "i don't think i ever said storr and damd were a better lynch than OO" How ever by the virtue of his list post he did. He points out as OO being possible town, and then STRANGE.

And ends with 3 scum within palmar damd storr" More overly defensive posting, and avoiding of finding scum.




So liancourt is content with asking questions, giving light town reads, as a claimed vt, he is unwilling to actually pressure anyone.

#LYNCHWITHFIRE
##Vote liancourt




So basically what you're saying is that I'm indecisive and unsure and that makes me scum. I pressured BH and that doesn't count now?

Oh and

Vote ObviousOne


What do you think about StorrZerg making the case on you, what does it tell you about him?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 19:57 GMT
#690
I'm a slam fan. I'm not really a batsnacks fan because he's a bit of a dick.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 20:53 GMT
#717
On October 08 2014 05:26 KelsierSC wrote:
@Palmar

Can you give your views on the Grak/HF/Obi interaction.

Nope, haven't read any of it.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 20:58 GMT
#720
On October 08 2014 05:14 liancourt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 03:21 Palmar wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch BH for that post.


which post are you refering to?

The one where he spent plenty of time talking about how some case was really good and he'd be totally down with it tomorrow, only to default to what is essentially a lurker lynch on OO, without actually explaining why the OO lynch is better. Like there's literally no reason he shouldn't be tunneling me just as much as OO, maybe he just knows I'm more of a pita to lynch and I might actually turn around and do shit.

If he's so on board with the lynch based on reasons, why is he still trying to do this semi-policy lynch.

Like the one thing that makes me not want to lynch BH is that the scumslip thing was so monumentally stupid (it's 200% reasonable to assume 3 scum in a game of this size) that I just don't want to lynch him to spite the idiots who thought it was relevant.

Even if BH is mafia, that was not a scumslip.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:05 GMT
#725
Also batsnacks is probably town for being the one to point out the scumslip. Mafia doesn't have the balls to do something this stupid.

This means we can all safely just ignore batsnacks for the rest of the game, as it's unlikely anything he says is actually of any value.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:09 GMT
#729
On October 08 2014 06:06 KelsierSC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 05:58 Palmar wrote:
On October 08 2014 05:14 liancourt wrote:
On October 08 2014 03:21 Palmar wrote:
I kinda wanna lynch BH for that post.


which post are you refering to?

The one where he spent plenty of time talking about how some case was really good and he'd be totally down with it tomorrow, only to default to what is essentially a lurker lynch on OO, without actually explaining why the OO lynch is better. Like there's literally no reason he shouldn't be tunneling me just as much as OO, maybe he just knows I'm more of a pita to lynch and I might actually turn around and do shit.

If he's so on board with the lynch based on reasons, why is he still trying to do this semi-policy lynch.

Like the one thing that makes me not want to lynch BH is that the scumslip thing was so monumentally stupid (it's 200% reasonable to assume 3 scum in a game of this size) that I just don't want to lynch him to spite the idiots who thought it was relevant.

Even if BH is mafia, that was not a scumslip.


So OO got RNG'd and laughed it off and drew a train, which initially felt town to me. But as it became clear BH was serious, rather than get pissed off or fight he self voted and vanished.
You haven't been here the whole game so it is a bit different in your case.

I am really surprised that there is only that one thing stopping you from lynching BH


BH didn't say that though (and I wasn't aware that OO self voted). I read this post: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23075621 and was under the impression BH mostly wanted to lynch OO for basically being uninterested.


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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:11 GMT
#730
On October 07 2014 18:00 liancourt wrote:
Although I hate to admit it OO does seem strange the way he was reacting. It'd mean I'd have to vote for a random vote which I'm reluctant in doing so because it'd go against my principles.


This is strange too. If he's acting like what you think mafia would act, why do you hate to admit it? I always like it when people act like mafia.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:15 GMT
#733
You understand the "fan" post has nothing to do with the game at hand, I just like slam's posting in general, and I don't like how batsnacks plays the game. Go read the last game if you need any explanation as to why batsnacks is a dick and shouldn't be listened to.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:15 GMT
#734
On October 08 2014 06:14 Hopeless1der wrote:
palmar why do you need to have BH's stance on RNG lynches explained to you? Have you not encountered his antics like 50 bajillion other times by now?

Say what?
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22634 Posts
October 07 2014 21:16 GMT
#735
Like I have literally no clue what you're talking about Hopeless
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