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On September 19 2014 08:27 Promethelax wrote:
I see you are against coaches, may I have an exception since it has been so long since I last played? I'd like an export ended coach with a history of not sucking.
Since I meet my own criteria for a coach I'll ask me. If I say yes I will provide you with my coaching qt for me will that be acceptable?
Why don't you hydra with yourself instead? Maybe that's even allowed.
Edit: Ah, no it isn't. That's too bad.
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On September 19 2014 10:28 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 09:04 justanothertownie wrote:On September 19 2014 08:27 Promethelax wrote:
I see you are against coaches, may I have an exception since it has been so long since I last played? I'd like an export ended coach with a history of not sucking.
Since I meet my own criteria for a coach I'll ask me. If I say yes I will provide you with my coaching qt for me will that be acceptable? Why don't you hydra with yourself instead? Maybe that's even allowed. Edit: Ah, no it isn't. That's too bad. Don't be silly now. How could I even do that, I'm not two people.
-> Palmar in foundation mafia.
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I will join if Palmar does.
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Sure it is...
Btw. what do you consider "evening"?
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On September 25 2014 04:59 yamato77 wrote:
Storr said he would play, no? And before that we had 12?
Yup.
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On September 25 2014 05:10 Superbia wrote:
Hard claiming vigi.
Hard counterclaiming.
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On September 25 2014 05:15 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 05:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2014 05:10 Superbia wrote:
Hard claiming vigi. Hard counterclaiming. Vigi not even in the game, gotcha scum!
Everything I did I did for my people.
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Also scum not even in the game, gotcha wolf.
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On September 25 2014 05:21 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 05:10 Fecalfeast wrote:
I already think you're a werewolf based on last game GB and this hasn't even started Lol damdy are you trying to say that the game hasn't even started yet and I'm already playing bad?
Yep. At least you are already not paying attention.
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I don't like SkyDragon. Constantly claiming he is new BUT has played before. And then he posts things like this:
On September 25 2014 08:24 SkyDragon wrote:
I know I'm new around here but what's up with the vote train on Holyflare? If that isn't considered suspicious as fuck, I don't know what is. Would it not be easier to just let the Seer do his/her job instead of lynching random villag.. I mean, er, "Vanillagers"?
I don't know how people play on the site you are from but this post is the epitome of awful. Since you claim to actually have experience with this kind of setup please enlighten me how the seer of all people is supposed to do his job day fucking 1. How can he lead us to a scumlynch better than anyone else if all he has at this point is a green check? How is he supposed to do that without claiming anyways? Like what?
On September 25 2014 09:42 SkyDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 09:32 Holyflare wrote:On September 25 2014 09:27 SkyDragon wrote:
Actually, all three of them claimed to be Town from the off, and HF decided to throw some names out as well (When barely anyone had posted and probably to deflect suspicion from himself). Just thinking out loud. Riddle me this good sir. What suspicion did I need to deflect and how would I go about doing that with 3 names of people that hadn't even spoken yet? In my experience, bad guys have stated names right at the very start to divert peoples attention elsewhere. I'm not saying that you're bad, I'm just saying that I'm cautious of anyone who throws names around during the early part of the game. 
What should we do instead of throwing names around? Just chill and do nothing?
So again - this guy has played this game already. But he is pretending to know nothing at all about it. What gives?
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On September 25 2014 08:43 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.
Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now That 'case' on me was just backed up with bad evidence. So yea, let's wait and see. I am only going to post reads near end of d1.
From the heavyweight scum qt:
HaruRH
08-03-2014
08:03 PM ET (US)
Me neither, but I like rolling scum too. Much joys.
Is this also bad evidence?
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On September 25 2014 08:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 08:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 25 2014 08:49 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 08:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF confirmed literate. Sadly that's not enough for me to lynch Haru Hi! I have a feeling that there is a mafia between you and holyflare. Why not both? Why do you think this? I find their buddying style unnatural. Gonna do some quotations to illustrate what I said, brb
Since when is buddying early day1 a thing mafia teammates do?
On September 25 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
LOL you think I'd go to that much effort to search through a quote to lynchy team mate????
Yes.
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On September 25 2014 17:45 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 17:29 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2014 08:54 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 08:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 25 2014 08:49 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 08:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF confirmed literate. Sadly that's not enough for me to lynch Haru Hi! I have a feeling that there is a mafia between you and holyflare. Why not both? Why do you think this? I find their buddying style unnatural. Gonna do some quotations to illustrate what I said, brb Since when is buddying early day1 a thing mafia teammates do? On September 25 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
LOL you think I'd go to that much effort to search through a quote to lynchy team mate???? Yes. Since when that is strictly not possible for mafia?
Did I say that? But you are threating it like a scumtell and it for sure isn't.
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On September 25 2014 17:48 GlowingBear wrote:
My dribk senses says JAT is possibly mafia
But hey, feel free to elaborate on that.
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On September 25 2014 17:56 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno i think gb's a bit townier since his onslaught of cases even if they are misplaced.
Maybe. Maybe not.
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On September 25 2014 18:06 Holyflare wrote:
No filters in op is dumb
Yeah, where is Koshi when you need him.
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On September 25 2014 22:33 batsnacks wrote:
I'm phone
Gb mafia
More later
A true poet. Ok, Mr. phone, I am eagerly awaiting "More".
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On September 25 2014 23:11 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 23:09 Holyflare wrote:On September 25 2014 23:06 GlowingBear wrote:
Townies, I'm not mafia. There are mafia trying to force a mislynch on me. Think wisely. who is doing that? I don't know But there are.
wat
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On September 26 2014 00:08 Palmar wrote:
I'm like... 1/3 through the game. Observations:
Holyflare is sorta aggressive/emotional in his early stuff which I felt was weird (as if he was overplaying for effect). But he then later made enough non-shit posts for me to not want to lynch him.
Skydragon is town. Don't lynch.
Fecal might be town.
Superbia is a bit fishy
Glowingbear is a bit fishy because he posted that comment about there being a mafia between hopeless and holyflare. It's just such a bad way to think about things, and it's also a very cheap comment to make as mafia as it absolves you from actually having to threaten anyone by calling them scum. If he thinks his statement is true, why didn't he try to figure out which one it is immediately and then post his result?
Hopeless is meh
Storr.. idk. He wrote that case on... fecal? I kinda think the case is more likely to make storr town, but I don't think it's a correct case.
Why is Skydragon town?
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On September 26 2014 01:35 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 00:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2014 00:08 Palmar wrote:
I'm like... 1/3 through the game. Observations:
Holyflare is sorta aggressive/emotional in his early stuff which I felt was weird (as if he was overplaying for effect). But he then later made enough non-shit posts for me to not want to lynch him.
Skydragon is town. Don't lynch.
Fecal might be town.
Superbia is a bit fishy
Glowingbear is a bit fishy because he posted that comment about there being a mafia between hopeless and holyflare. It's just such a bad way to think about things, and it's also a very cheap comment to make as mafia as it absolves you from actually having to threaten anyone by calling them scum. If he thinks his statement is true, why didn't he try to figure out which one it is immediately and then post his result?
Hopeless is meh
Storr.. idk. He wrote that case on... fecal? I kinda think the case is more likely to make storr town, but I don't think it's a correct case.
Why is Skydragon town? Because of how he reacted to the train on Holyflare. Like I can't quite explain it but his answer just felt like he genuinely thought he was doing something good by pointing it out. Obviously it wasn't useful as the random vote train wooshed his head a bit, but his response revealed something about him.
Meeeeeeeeeh. Not a fan of this read. Especially not a fan of how confidently you said he is town for it.
On September 26 2014 02:33 Holyflare wrote:
I think more than anything in regards to skydragon about 5 people have claimed town at this point so his meta from his other site no longer applies here but he has continued to drag it out and outline more policy of what his other site entailed rather than updating his reads. It was also an oddly specific answer to just hopeless while ignoring everything else in the thread.
Exactly.
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On September 26 2014 03:03 Killing wrote:
PEOPLE ARE CALLING ME MAFIA IN A GAME CALLED MAFIA I'M FUCKING DONE
Well, technically this is not a game called mafia...
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I still dislike Sky and I think that should be pretty obvious. It's way too early for an opinion on Palmar.
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On September 26 2014 04:01 SkyDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 17:24 justanothertownie wrote:
I don't know how people play on the site you are from but this post is the epitome of awful. Since you claim to actually have experience with this kind of setup please enlighten me how the seer of all people is supposed to do his job day fucking 1. How can he lead us to a scumlynch better than anyone else if all he has at this point is a green check? How is he supposed to do that without claiming anyways? Like what?
So again - this guy has played this game already. But he is pretending to know nothing at all about it. What gives?
It's quite apparent that you're unable to read properly since I've repeatedly said that I'm new to these forums but played Mafia in another forums. I know how the game works but the only problem is playing with people who I've never played with before so it's hard to immediately discern whether they are playing out of character, "weird" or normally. It's really not that hard to understand, lol. Can people stop going on about this and just play the game?
To the bolded: If you don't understand that that's exactly what I have said then YOU are the one who isn't reading properly. If you really know how the game works then what you wrote in the post I quoted is just asinine. Also it is pretty funny that you are the one telling me to start playing because I actually commented on game relevant things already. You did not.
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On September 26 2014 05:04 SkyDragon wrote:
I'm not going to argue about this any further.
Let's move on..
Sounds good. You could provide some reads instead.
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On September 26 2014 06:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
Well, we have nobody flaming people this game so everyone isn't as angry.
Yeah, but even considering that this game is no shitflinging contest and the amount of players is lower the activity sucks really bad right now.
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Yeah, he is just peacing out when asked about something relevant.
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So, I am pretty sure storr is town. Very aggressive, inquisitive and leadery. Totally different than last game - I like it.
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Sky at least puts in a good amount of effort now but if you read his posts there are so many contradictions/things that don't make sense. Still don't like him.
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GB seems afraid/really defensive - might be scum. Reminds me of the scum qt from Fanfic where he was really really afraid I would vig him.
I will elaborate on those reads when I have time in a few hours. Would probably still lynch Sky.
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On September 26 2014 09:43 Holyflare wrote:I like batsnacks like 10x more now and I DO agree with his case. However, with the reaction skydragon started displaying right after i'm getting the unflipped association that sky might be mafia and gb town 
Could you explain this?
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On September 26 2014 19:37 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 15:38 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2014 09:43 Holyflare wrote:I like batsnacks like 10x more now and I DO agree with his case. However, with the reaction skydragon started displaying right after i'm getting the unflipped association that sky might be mafia and gb town Could you explain this? Sure. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 08:34 SkyDragon wrote:
I was actually in the middle of writing a long post about Storr (Hence why I went quiet) but refreshed the page and saw your diatribe aimed at both me and GB. GB is clearly forcing people to talk by claiming that they're suspicious and I think that it's a good strategy. It doesn't matter whether he backtracks because the point is to force people out of the shadows and defend themselves. You just don't get that. This post. Sky disregards the entirety of batsnacks long posts about GB in like 1 or 2 sentences even though the case was pretty good. The bolded just seemed super weird in context because it's like "hey can't you see this guy is blatantly doing this!" when in actual fact he isn't really and it just seemed he knew GB's motives better than anyone else in the game did.
Ok, I can see that. Not entirely sold on it though. This is also an example of a Skydragon contradiction btw. "GB is town because he is forcing people to talk by claiming they are suspicious."
Earlier he was not a fan of throwing names or suspicion around. I could search for the actual quotes but I think everyone remembers that. He is holding GB to a different standard for some reason.
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On September 26 2014 19:51 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 19:30 Holyflare wrote:On September 26 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote:There's nothing alignment indicative in HaruRH's posts. However he has two posts that make me angry we don't have a vigilante this game for clearing out trash. I wish he was dead.He's a very, very good default lynch this game (that is, if somehow all our scumreads start looking townie-ish) Evidence 1.On September 25 2014 08:43 HaruRH wrote:On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.
Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now That 'case' on me was just backed up with bad evidence. So yea, let's wait and see. I am only going to post reads near end of d1. "I'm not going to do anything until end of day 1, and thus be of no help" Evidence 2.On September 26 2014 00:02 HaruRH wrote:
I am coming out to say I won't be doing shit for this few days because I am going to lol worlds. You must expect lower activity (lower than my lowest activity games). However, I will find a worthy person to sheep. So far, given my observations, I would actually call GB WOLF. Real life excuses should be policy lynches. Every time it's mafia making them for some reason. Anyway, tbh that first post, if anything, sounds slightly more townie than scummy (the defiance that he is not going to cave in to pressure for reads and do things his way). It's a terrible way to play and it makes me a) not want to play with Haru, and b) want to kill Haru, but it is what it is, and I don't think he's a good lynch unless we have no other options. How does this make sense at all? You say there's nothing alignment indicative in haru's filter but then you say that rather than nothing there's one post (first quote) that is probably towny indicative.... but you want to kill haru...? I think it's quite obvious what I mean. I know my first language isn't english, but I don't understand what is confusing you. The opening statement is correct. There is nothing in his filter I consider concrete enough to make a call on his alignment, and I think he'd be a great policy lynch/shot if we don't have anything other to work with. The latter statement, clearly specifies "if anything" and "slightly", which indicates that while I don't think it's very useful at all, that if you held a gun to my head and made me make a call on his alignment, I'd use that thought process. It's still way too weak for me to actually say "he's town" based on it. I just pointed out that it's a slight tip in that direction, but not enough to make his filter in general lean one way or the other, and not enough to make him any less of a good policy lynch. I am actually quite surprised I had to explain this to you. I actually want to ask OTHER people a question: Did anyone else find my opening and closing statements contradictory?
Not really, but it is a very waffly post. First you wish he was dead then you still don't want to lynch him in the end.
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Palmar you seem to be really sure that GB is town all of a sudden. Can you elaborate on that?
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On September 26 2014 19:57 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 19:54 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2014 19:51 Palmar wrote:On September 26 2014 19:30 Holyflare wrote:On September 26 2014 18:43 Palmar wrote:There's nothing alignment indicative in HaruRH's posts. However he has two posts that make me angry we don't have a vigilante this game for clearing out trash. I wish he was dead.He's a very, very good default lynch this game (that is, if somehow all our scumreads start looking townie-ish) Evidence 1.On September 25 2014 08:43 HaruRH wrote:On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.
Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now That 'case' on me was just backed up with bad evidence. So yea, let's wait and see. I am only going to post reads near end of d1. "I'm not going to do anything until end of day 1, and thus be of no help" Evidence 2.On September 26 2014 00:02 HaruRH wrote:
I am coming out to say I won't be doing shit for this few days because I am going to lol worlds. You must expect lower activity (lower than my lowest activity games). However, I will find a worthy person to sheep. So far, given my observations, I would actually call GB WOLF. Real life excuses should be policy lynches. Every time it's mafia making them for some reason. Anyway, tbh that first post, if anything, sounds slightly more townie than scummy (the defiance that he is not going to cave in to pressure for reads and do things his way). It's a terrible way to play and it makes me a) not want to play with Haru, and b) want to kill Haru, but it is what it is, and I don't think he's a good lynch unless we have no other options. How does this make sense at all? You say there's nothing alignment indicative in haru's filter but then you say that rather than nothing there's one post (first quote) that is probably towny indicative.... but you want to kill haru...? I think it's quite obvious what I mean. I know my first language isn't english, but I don't understand what is confusing you. The opening statement is correct. There is nothing in his filter I consider concrete enough to make a call on his alignment, and I think he'd be a great policy lynch/shot if we don't have anything other to work with. The latter statement, clearly specifies "if anything" and "slightly", which indicates that while I don't think it's very useful at all, that if you held a gun to my head and made me make a call on his alignment, I'd use that thought process. It's still way too weak for me to actually say "he's town" based on it. I just pointed out that it's a slight tip in that direction, but not enough to make his filter in general lean one way or the other, and not enough to make him any less of a good policy lynch. I am actually quite surprised I had to explain this to you. I actually want to ask OTHER people a question: Did anyone else find my opening and closing statements contradictory? Not really, but it is a very waffly post. First you wish he was dead then you still don't want to lynch him in the end. That's how I feel about all policy/lurker lynches (except blatant policies like lynch all liars). They are "default" lynches, that is, only useful if we're otherwise out of options. I think you know what I mean. I wish he was dead because his contributions don't help me decide his alignment. But I have no conviction one way or the other that he's gonna flip town or mafia, simply because of exactly that fact.
Fair enough.
On September 26 2014 20:03 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 19:55 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar you seem to be really sure that GB is town all of a sudden. Can you elaborate on that? Short version I think his tone and activity are more likely to come from a townie. He at some point came under fire for his opinions and stuck to his guns. Also I don't remember him being so adamant about wanting people to know his reads and how strong they were when he was mafia. It seems to matter to him that people know what he's thinking.
Meeeh... do you really think his activity is that different from his scumgame? And I don't know if you can call what he did "sticking to his guns". I thought his play so far was rather defensive. I can give examples in a second. Again the strength of your read seems not in proportion with your reasoning.
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Ok, I will read Hopeless.
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Ok, I also don't get townvibes from Hopeless filter. I guess if GB is town Hopeless looks quite shady but I really have doubts about that.
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Re: GB
I was talking about this post. I just filterdove him and there were way less posts like this than I remembered somehow so there is that. But this seems so overly defensive to me I have a hard time seeing town GB post this.
On September 25 2014 13:09 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 12:51 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 25 2014 12:42 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 12:28 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 25 2014 12:22 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 12:19 Hopeless1der wrote:
not much time tonight, but right now severely dislike glowingbear. Very shallow reads imo. HF's case wasnt terrible, it was misplaced. If haru couldnt prove he was actually sad about rolling blue I'd be voting for him right now. Since the case has obviously failed, why would HF stay with it? Thats ridiculous.
Then there's his scumlist...what the hell is that about. players have literally not even posted yet, but GB has solved the game? I dont buy that in the slightest.
I'll probably be gone until this time tomorrow but should be generally more active when I'm around during my evenings. (Just started a new job, dont want to play at work) Because that's his scum read and if the case didn't go through he should be asking more questions to Haru to get more information? Lol... HF's case on Haru was literally based on one post that was demonstrably false using out-of-thread but public information. Again, why try to stick with such a case? Refusing to "overlook" (which is a strange way to phrase it btw) his case would be way more suspicious than dropping it like he already has. The fact that this seems suspicious to you makes YOU look suspicious to me. Because it's easy, as scum, to pick on a tiny problem to bus a partner then drop the read. That is so incredibly shallow. Unless I have found surefire scum tomorrow, I'm voting you just based off this interaction. btw, fecalfeast is behaving pretty similar to last game imo. No reason to hate on him just yet. Palmar seems to have gotten upset that no one uses the voting thread to follow his policy and has taken up a silent protest. Sky is new to TL but not to mafia. I'd like to hear his (her?) thoughts on why d1 claimers usually got lynched on SK. I'm gone for now, see you all later. It can be shallow, but at least I'm the only one trying to get people talking. Nothing is in the way of updating my reads the more people starts to talk. If you lynch me, you'll be lynching a townie for stupid reasons and you'll soon lose the game as much as you lost our last one
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Why do you think HF is particularly untrustworthy this game?
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Maybe it is because there are like 3-4 people here and half of them already voted.
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On September 26 2014 21:41 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 21:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Why do you think HF is particularly untrustworthy this game? It feels like he's letting the thread stagnate when he's normally a super active player. Then there's the fact that he's already tried pushing someone by misrepresenting his own meta, which is basically his scum meta. Definitely not a lynch prospect for me at the moment, but I feel like it's worth looking into.
What is he supposed to do against thread stagnation/how could he possibly make it stagnate? I am also a superactive player but it is really hard to post/get something going this game for some reason.
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On September 26 2014 21:48 HaruRH wrote:![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/KQarnJA.jpg) =.= I'm at worlds now...
That's great for you and all.
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Ok, I have to travel for now. Will be phoneposting at max until several hours before deadline.
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On September 26 2014 21:53 Holyflare wrote:
why aren't you voting hopeless jat?
Not convinced that he is a better lynch than let's say Sky. Since he isn't here it wouldn't pressure him at all.
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On September 26 2014 21:57 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 21:55 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2014 21:53 Holyflare wrote:
why aren't you voting hopeless jat? Not convinced that he is a better lynch than let's say Sky. Since he isn't here it wouldn't pressure him at all. Just do it bitch?
There is no way in hell that I am going through the pain of voting on my phone just to please you, bitch.
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Catching up now. I will try my best to stay awake but I am up since 5 am/spent half the day on the road/just played paintball for 3 hours/am fucking tired/insert next excuse here.
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On September 27 2014 01:24 StorrZerg wrote:I had given jat a lot of town credit off 1 post when he read me. So i decided to reread him since i couldn't remember anything else. i like most of what he is saying/pressure he is applying. save for this. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 21:55 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2014 21:53 Holyflare wrote:
why aren't you voting hopeless jat? Not convinced that he is a better lynch than let's say Sky. Since he isn't here it wouldn't pressure him at all. while he is right that sky is the better lynch. Sky is absolutely a train wreck right now. Even if hopeless1der isn't exactly around, i feel the pressure is more just on hopeless right now from his point of view.
Huh? Neither of them were around at that time. What does a vote achieve in that situation?
On September 27 2014 01:26 GlowingBear wrote:Oh and pls, srsly consider JAT as a lynch candidate day2. He does not sound like town this time
I am sure everyone will follow this elaborate and well reasoned read.
On September 27 2014 02:15 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 02:13 Killing wrote:On September 27 2014 02:13 GlowingBear wrote:
Town circle is the stupidest idea in a mafia game, IMO
So misleading...
I'd love to kill killing. That's cause you're mafia. I'm ok with mafia trying to lynch me, it's part of the game. Yeah, right. "Hey people!!! Please tell me your town circles so I can have a grasp of how you're reading me and my mafia team mates."
wat
On September 27 2014 06:14 GlowingBear wrote:
If at the end of the game storr doesn't flip mafia I promise, I really promise I'll stop
playing this game. I promise and I'll keep that promise this time
I have no idea what you are doing this game if you are town.
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On September 27 2014 05:13 SkyDragon wrote:
I thought it's quite apparent what I'm pushing - That both Town and Scum can use real-world excuses for long periods of absence. You're now saying that you defended Haru because he wasn't around, which is fair enough but I don't see any reason as to why anyone would bother defending anyone on Day 1 since he could be scum trying to hide. He's obviously visiting this thread at least once a day so doesn't need anyone to speak for him or defend him. I thought that all of this is pretty obvious.
I'm not trumping up anything that I haven't already said before.
Everytime I start to consider lynching other people Sky busts out a post like that and I want to kill him with fire.
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On September 27 2014 05:25 Superbia wrote:All right, I've read JAT's filter and he's actually a big fucking question mark to me at the moment and I don't like it. He seems somewhat town and I find myself agreeing with most of his "reads" (i.e. Storr town, Sky scummy), but idk, it all feels very vanilla. It also feels like he has done nothing really proactive yet, and he even says Show nested quote +I am also a superactive player but it is really hard to post/get something going this game for some reason. which feels like fucking bullshit to me. I don't know if this has to do with his travel or what, but I definitely wouldn't mind seeing a wagon on him tomorrow. He's either lazy town or scum.
So essentially you are reading me scum because you are familiar with my more active town meta. Maybe you should try to read my only scumgame then - inactivity is no scum trait of mine. Which makes the meta read invalid. It just means that I don't have as much time on my hands right now regardless of alignment.
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On September 27 2014 07:01 SkyDragon wrote:
Explain, please.
If you had chosen to not post instead you would have produced the same amount of content.
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On September 27 2014 07:10 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 07:06 Superbia wrote:On September 27 2014 07:03 batsnacks wrote:
I want to give sky another day. Would lynch Superbia because of everything HF said, but I'm keeping my vote on GB for now. Are you even up to date with this? If you had chosen to not post instead you would have produced the same amount of content.
I like this post.
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Something is off this game. There are 3 wagons right now and not one of them is awful.
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On September 27 2014 08:15 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 08:13 SkyDragon wrote:
I don't, but he's suspicious of Storr like I am. If Storr actually is scum, then GB is Town. My only real obstacle to showing that I really am a Villager has been Storr. He's taken a very active role since the start of d1 and has effectively told others who is Town and who isn't, who should be lynched and who shouldn't be, whose readings to take seriously and whose readings are nonsense. He's basically manipulating a large number of people to see things in the way that he wants them to see things. It's scummy to me. this is a joke right?
omg... what you are describing right there is good townplay. Nothing scummy in the slightest about that.
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On September 27 2014 08:22 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:On September 27 2014 08:15 StorrZerg wrote:On September 27 2014 08:13 SkyDragon wrote:
I don't, but he's suspicious of Storr like I am. If Storr actually is scum, then GB is Town. My only real obstacle to showing that I really am a Villager has been Storr. He's taken a very active role since the start of d1 and has effectively told others who is Town and who isn't, who should be lynched and who shouldn't be, whose readings to take seriously and whose readings are nonsense. He's basically manipulating a large number of people to see things in the way that he wants them to see things. It's scummy to me. this is a joke right? omg... what you are describing right there is good townplay. Nothing scummy in the slightest about that. what are you talking about. he just said i was the only one hassling his britches when thats far from the truth
Sorry, I misquoted somehow. Probably because I am fucking tired.
I wanted to quote his post not yours.
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Hopeless with the ninja vote Oo
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HF of course with the ninja post.
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On September 27 2014 08:41 SkyDragon wrote:
Hopeless' ninja vote isn't suspicious at all. Insisted GB was scum over the last 48 hours, but then voted for someone else with no reasons whatsoever.
Do I actually detect sarcasm?
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Jesus. Even more sarcasm.
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On September 27 2014 08:46 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 08:33 Hopeless1der wrote:On September 27 2014 08:31 Holyflare wrote:On September 27 2014 08:30 Hopeless1der wrote:
I hope we get another day together GB. I voted skydragon. Will not be back before deadline. Please dont kill me, I need to yell at Palmar and HF for their arrogance. also wtf changed all you did was tunnel gb all the start of the game and imo he's done nothing much since Skydragon looks worse, I did say I would comment on him. Obviously I didn't bring at least I voted OK, I think we should actually lynch him after thinking about it. Not only has he said he was moving into his new apartment or w/e (i can let that slide) but he's been on GB since the start of the game, he had an aside saying that he'd comment about Skydragon after sky had replied a bit here: Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 11:23 Hopeless1der wrote:I'm going to withold commenting on SkyDragon until he is able to review and respond as asked by storr/holy. Something HF noted, the game feels so slow. I agree with that sentiment, but I am not sure if its because mafia are paralyzed or because we're so desperately on the wrong track. There is no conclusion here, just something to consider. I like Killing's idea of a town circle. Do not necessarily like Killing in that town circle  . Off a gut check I actually have no problem with his townlist. I know I said the same thing last night, but I'm moving into my apartment tonight, so my activity is pretty shitty. I may not get home in time for deadline and cell reception is spotty. For the time being, GB is still my top scumread, voting him. However, I've marked in red the scummy part. He said GB is still his top scum read. For this to change that must mean that not only does Hopeless actually HAVE mobile phone reception to be able to catch up to the thread (he has been lying in that case) but he furthermore hasn't posted ANYTHING since then. So in order to form the read on skydragon he had to have been able to post as well and he didn't. That's the scummy part.
This is true. Might want to sheep Palmar after all.
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On September 27 2014 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
why would you wait till the last 10 minutes to even start posting
THIS. Wtf is going on. What about those posts is towny enough to warrant this shit?
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On September 27 2014 09:51 Killing wrote:
HOPELESS BW IS FUCKING BAD PLEASE ALL OFF
This guy did nothing in ages and now 5 minutes before lynch this? Are you kidding me?
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So GB does suddenly think this wagon sucks. The only other person who thinks so is Killing. Guess who GB is voting for right now.
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On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless.
Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement.
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On September 27 2014 23:44 batsnacks wrote:Am I really the one shutting down conversation here? Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 23:08 Palmar wrote:
So yeah, if you're green, just say it. If you're blue, just say it.
actually, I'm doing this until you do.
##vote Batsnacks
I hate ambiguity. Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 23:14 Palmar wrote:
I don't care about your opinion HF so just stop talking.
either batsnacks claims he's cop and has a check, or he clears up that he isn't claiming at all and was just speculating and we move on.
If he doesn't do this ASAP I'm policy lynching him for being a complete asshole. Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 23:14 Palmar wrote:
Batsnacks, your next post clears this up, or I'm just going afk and leaving my vote on you. Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 23:33 Palmar wrote:
Right. Everyone should be lynching batsnacks for basically shutting down discussion while we clear this fucking mess up.
Doesn't matter at all. Palmar is right - you should clear this up if you are town.
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On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless. Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly.
Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit.
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On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless. Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE
You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town.
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At a point in time when it was impossible to change the lynch.
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On September 28 2014 00:18 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless. Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town. I was calling him town all day. That is a terrible accusation and you should feel bad about it.
I don't recall you stopping the wagon. Or even trying to do so.
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On September 28 2014 00:23 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 00:22 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:21 batsnacks wrote:On September 28 2014 00:20 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:18 batsnacks wrote:On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:
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Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town. I agree with this. Speaking as town there is no way I was moving my vote on hopeless especially after he said he was moving into a new apartment, hiking in the mountains or something, and in the middle of the desert. At least I think he claimed to be all of those places I don't really remember. Then he showed up in the last 10 minutes to do nothing. I agree he was useless BUT NO MORE USELESS THAN SKYDRAGON. Why did it get switched from one useless to another? + Show Spoiler + Why were you townreading him though? I liked his posts especially the one about the early haru swtich by HF and then he was calling me town so I knew it was love at first sight. If you vote Palmar I'll townread you.
Why?
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On September 28 2014 00:27 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 00:24 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:23 batsnacks wrote:On September 28 2014 00:22 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:21 batsnacks wrote:On September 28 2014 00:20 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:18 batsnacks wrote:On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:
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Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town. I agree with this. Speaking as town there is no way I was moving my vote on hopeless especially after he said he was moving into a new apartment, hiking in the mountains or something, and in the middle of the desert. At least I think he claimed to be all of those places I don't really remember. Then he showed up in the last 10 minutes to do nothing. I agree he was useless BUT NO MORE USELESS THAN SKYDRAGON. Why did it get switched from one useless to another? + Show Spoiler + Why were you townreading him though? I liked his posts especially the one about the early haru swtich by HF and then he was calling me town so I knew it was love at first sight. If you vote Palmar I'll townread you. Why? Itchy trigger finger? Aren't you curious if he will or not? I know I am.
Uhm, ok...
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Batsnacks this isn't helping. Why don't you just clarify if you have a redcheck or not?
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On September 28 2014 00:42 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 00:41 justanothertownie wrote:
Batsnacks this isn't helping. Why don't you just clarify if you have a redcheck or not? Why don't you go read my filter and determine for yourself whether I have a redcheck or not?
I don't recall you ever claiming a check besides that weird post on HF. What is this question?
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On September 28 2014 00:46 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 00:38 batsnacks wrote:On September 28 2014 00:35 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 00:31 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:28 Palmar wrote:
I don't see why this is so hard guys, we're lynching batsnacks.
He literally cannot be town.
If he is town, all he has to say is "oh sorry Palmar and HF, I am not claiming a check or anything, if that's what you thought", and we can move on. This doesn't mean he has to claim he's not the cop, simply that at that point in the game, he was not trying to claim a check on holyflare.
There is only one faction in mafia that benefits at all from any kind of confusion or ambiguous information, and that is mafia. Thus batsnacks MUST be mafia.
If he is somehow town, I'm fine with lynching him and never playing with him again for intentionally ruining a game. Why don't you just try and read people instead of being an ass? Wasn't I just doing exactly that? I just took someone's posting, demonstrated that it was blatantly mafia favored agenda, and I am voting him for it. Everyone else should be doing the same. Wrong. You just took something only you said and only you believe (that I claimed seer), and shut down the thread because I won't cooperate with your stupid demands. I am voting -you- for pushing a mafia agenda. Here's the thing, I've proven there is literally no downside for you in clearing up the ambiguity, even your scummate JAT is telling you to just that. I have told you exactly how we can clean up this mess, yet you insist on creating unnecessary conflict. Fuck you.
Sorry to disappoint you Palmar. My scummate is just to stubborn.
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On September 28 2014 00:54 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 00:52 Palmar wrote:
Yeah killing you're fucking terrible. You let me lynch hopeless with bad reasons (they were bad, he was town, so they were by definition bad) while you had good reasons to think he's town (same logic).
And yet somehow I convinced more people than you. That makes you an awful player. Kind hard to defend a guy that has 5 posts when people aren't willing to overlook quantity over quality
There was no quality.
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I know right? What do you want to discuss?
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On September 28 2014 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
you tell me
If I felt there was an urgent matter to discuss with you I would have posted about it ages ago. This game is so... boring? Maybe that's not the correct word here.
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Unless you are against lynching Killing. If that is the case you should tell me why.
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On September 28 2014 02:52 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 01:12 Holyflare wrote:On September 28 2014 01:03 StorrZerg wrote:
We should look at people who wanted "to give sky a chance"
And using that as reason to not vote. Hf your reasons to push hopeless on activity was incredibly scummy. You made the lynch happen, you pulled it off sky.
Still catching up. i didn't base it on activity at all in the slightest another mark in the storr not reading giant book of terrible You "caught him in a lie about his activity " which lead to the insurance of his lynch.
So you did not think it was a lie? The case was pretty convincing.
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On September 28 2014 03:47 batsnacks wrote:Read page 56. That's all the explanation anyone needs. Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 00:56 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 00:54 batsnacks wrote:
@HF most of the reason I am scum reading you So you're think he's mafia, but you don't claim to have a red check on him? Can you confirm? He never thought I was claiming.
He just tried to understand what you are saying? I don't see how that makes him mafia at all.
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On September 28 2014 04:03 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 03:57 Holyflare wrote:On September 28 2014 03:48 Killing wrote:
I believe that we are losing the game you haven't done a single thing today I called everyone bad and said that we should probably be looking at sky + the flip from sky onto hopeless. Does that not count? I mean you're just blindly lynching people left and right.
Ok. So you think Sky is scum and scum "flipped" the lynch onto hopeless. How did they do that? And who are they?
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Palmar was pushing Hopeless all fucking day. He in no way was responsible for any kind of switch.
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On September 28 2014 04:20 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 04:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar was pushing Hopeless all fucking day. He in no way was responsible for any kind of switch. He was the first to bring him up and then complained about it for 3-4 posts.
Well, you said we should be looking at how Hopeless suddenly got more votes than Sky, right? Palmar had nothing to do with that.
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On September 28 2014 04:20 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 04:19 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 04:17 batsnacks wrote:On September 28 2014 04:15 Killing wrote:
They fact that they give so few fucks about it should also tell you something Maybe they'd give more fucks if you gave enough fucks to vote one of them. Sorry I'm not your standard forum player that just goes for spite lynches. It's not spite if you think they're mafia, which you said you do.
Good point actually.
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On September 28 2014 04:23 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 04:20 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 04:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar was pushing Hopeless all fucking day. He in no way was responsible for any kind of switch. He was the first to bring him up and then complained about it for 3-4 posts. Well, you said we should be looking at how Hopeless suddenly got more votes than Sky, right? Palmar had nothing to do with that. Does saying "This guy is scum, we should be voting him" 8 times, not count as starting a BW?
We will continue this discussion when you start reading my post. Deal?
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On September 28 2014 04:32 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 04:31 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 04:23 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 04:21 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 04:20 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 04:18 justanothertownie wrote:
Palmar was pushing Hopeless all fucking day. He in no way was responsible for any kind of switch. He was the first to bring him up and then complained about it for 3-4 posts. Well, you said we should be looking at how Hopeless suddenly got more votes than Sky, right? Palmar had nothing to do with that. Does saying "This guy is scum, we should be voting him" 8 times, not count as starting a BW? We will continue this discussion when you start reading my post. Deal? You start lynching mafia, I'll start reading posts. Deal?
That is hard. I would have to find and lynch your teammates to make this work and it seems as if they aren't as obvious as you are.
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On September 28 2014 04:34 batsnacks wrote:
Cowards. Put your votes where your mouths are.
First you put your mouth were your vote is because the posts we already talked about can not be enough for you to scumread Palmar that hard.
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On September 28 2014 04:44 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 04:38 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 04:34 batsnacks wrote:
Cowards. Put your votes where your mouths are. First you put your mouth were your vote is because the posts we already talked about can not be enough for you to scumread Palmar that hard. I've never seen Palmar act like that as town. Not even in the fanfic game when rayn was going 1000x harder than I've been. He's mafia. Go look again. You've probably played with Palmar more than I have. You tell me that's town Palmar. Are you going the tell me the same person who said this in the fanfic game: Show nested quote +On September 17 2014 18:53 Palmar wrote:
It's so amusing to think that rayn and marv just can't take the heat. They're probably not cut out to be mafia players. Is the same person who said this just now? Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 00:51 Palmar wrote:
I'm getting seriously mad so I'm going to leave for a while before I get myself in modkill territory.
Please lynch batsnacks for this horseshit. All because I wouldn't answer his stupid question he never needed an answer to.
I think town Palmar is more likely to act this way. I can see where you are coming from though.
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On September 28 2014 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm heading off to work.
I'm going to look into this Palmar thing. Snacks' post isn't great but FF just made a really good point.
Quite the other way round.
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On September 28 2014 04:54 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 04:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I'm heading off to work.
I'm going to look into this Palmar thing. Snacks' post isn't great but FF just made a really good point. Quite the other way round. You just said town Palmar would be more willing to act that way...?
Yes, I did. I also said I could see where batsnacks is coming from. It is a good observation.
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On September 28 2014 05:14 Palmar wrote:
I also feel reasonably strongly about JAT being mafia. He knows this game is a trainwreck and he doesn't care.
Explain how this
game is a trainwreck and why you think I don't care.
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On September 28 2014 05:14 Palmar wrote:
I also feel reasonably strongly about JAT being mafia. He knows this game is a trainwreck and he doesn't care.
Explain 1) how this game is a trainwreck 2) why you think I don't care.
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lol... my internet went out so I phoneposted the same thing :/
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On September 28 2014 05:23 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
he's one of those people that i can't honestly tell the difference between new off site player or mafia because the majority of things he does is scummy And JAT?
Nothing changed since yesterday. The only thing that makes him look good is that Killing was voting him/is "pushing" him right now.
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On September 28 2014 05:24 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:23 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
he's one of those people that i can't honestly tell the difference between new off site player or mafia because the majority of things he does is scummy And JAT? hasn't done anything really but agree with a lot of things so kind of like the heavyweight mafia jat
How have I not done anything? Are you kidding me? Not that it would make me scum anyways since I DID do shit in heavyweight.
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On September 28 2014 05:24 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:14 Palmar wrote:
I also feel reasonably strongly about JAT being mafia. He knows this game is a trainwreck and he doesn't care. Explain 1) how this game is a trainwreck 2) why you think I don't care. 1) we mislynched and now we spent a huge part of this day doing nothing. 2) I have this feeling that you have shown none of the leadership or helpful attitude I'm used to seeing from you. You started slow last game too before becoming really townie, but to me it feels like you're starting even slower in this one.
Maybe because this game is fucking slow itself? Look at the amount of pages we have right now. I am a conversational player - go figure.
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On September 28 2014 05:29 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:28 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:24 Holyflare wrote:On September 28 2014 05:23 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
he's one of those people that i can't honestly tell the difference between new off site player or mafia because the majority of things he does is scummy And JAT? hasn't done anything really but agree with a lot of things so kind of like the heavyweight mafia jat How have I not done anything? Are you kidding me? Not that it would make me scum anyways since I DID do shit in heavyweight. it's really passive
Are we playing the same game? I think I very adamantly pushed for a Killing lynch today. There is nothing passive about that.
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On September 28 2014 05:31 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:24 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:14 Palmar wrote:
I also feel reasonably strongly about JAT being mafia. He knows this game is a trainwreck and he doesn't care. Explain 1) how this game is a trainwreck 2) why you think I don't care. 1) we mislynched and now we spent a huge part of this day doing nothing. 2) I have this feeling that you have shown none of the leadership or helpful attitude I'm used to seeing from you. You started slow last game too before becoming really townie, but to me it feels like you're starting even slower in this one. Maybe because this game is fucking slow itself? Look at the amount of pages we have right now. I am a conversational player - go figure. Well conversate then bitch!
That is what we are doing right now bitch.
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On September 28 2014 05:34 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:32 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:29 Holyflare wrote:On September 28 2014 05:28 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:24 Holyflare wrote:On September 28 2014 05:23 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 05:22 Holyflare wrote:
he's one of those people that i can't honestly tell the difference between new off site player or mafia because the majority of things he does is scummy And JAT? hasn't done anything really but agree with a lot of things so kind of like the heavyweight mafia jat How have I not done anything? Are you kidding me? Not that it would make me scum anyways since I DID do shit in heavyweight. it's really passive Are we playing the same game? I think I very adamantly pushed for a Killing lynch today. There is nothing passive about that. you're not even voting for him so you're not really
Voting does not equal pushing. And the amount of times that I have ever voted this early in the day is extremely limited and you should know that.
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On September 28 2014 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:JAT you didn't really push killing today. All I could find from D2 that you said about killing is: Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless. Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless. Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town. I don't know.. Not a very aggressive push in my book.
Maybe you should visit an optician then. Most of my posts today were either pushing for or interrogating Killing.
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On September 28 2014 05:39 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:JAT you didn't really push killing today. All I could find from D2 that you said about killing is: On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless. Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless. Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town. I don't know.. Not a very aggressive push in my book. Maybe you should visit an optician then. Most of my posts today were either pushing for or interrogating Killing. Can you confirm your only reason you think I'm scum is "You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town"
That is the main reason. You claim to have townread Hopeless all the time but you did NOTHING to stop the lynch from happening. You didn't even try. It doesn't help you that you also did not do anything even remotely towny the whole game.
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On September 28 2014 05:45 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:39 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:JAT you didn't really push killing today. All I could find from D2 that you said about killing is: On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless. Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:
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Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town. I don't know.. Not a very aggressive push in my book. Maybe you should visit an optician then. Most of my posts today were either pushing for or interrogating Killing. Can you confirm your only reason you think I'm scum is "You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town" That is the main reason. You claim to have townread Hopeless all the time but you did NOTHING to stop the lynch from happening. You didn't even try. It doesn't help you that you also did not do anything even remotely towny the whole game. Meh probably shoulda tried harder but it was pretty impossible so I didn't bother. That's still a terrible reason for scum reading me.
No, it is a very good reason.
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On September 28 2014 05:47 Killing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:46 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:45 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:39 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:JAT you didn't really push killing today. All I could find from D2 that you said about killing is: On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:
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Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:
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Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town. I don't know.. Not a very aggressive push in my book. Maybe you should visit an optician then. Most of my posts today were either pushing for or interrogating Killing. Can you confirm your only reason you think I'm scum is "You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town" That is the main reason. You claim to have townread Hopeless all the time but you did NOTHING to stop the lynch from happening. You didn't even try. It doesn't help you that you also did not do anything even remotely towny the whole game. Meh probably shoulda tried harder but it was pretty impossible so I didn't bother. That's still a terrible reason for scum reading me. No, it is a very good reason. GONNA BE A PRETTY FUCKING BAD REASON WHEN I CLAIM SEER
No. It would still be good. That would only mean there is an explanation for it.
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So are you claiming seer or did you just want to deflect?
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On September 28 2014 05:52 Killing wrote:
I'm claiming.
I have a red check, I just wanted to see if I could kill the person today without outing but it seems it's a no go. I think the team is: SkyDragon, Red Check and a random third.
Thank god. Who is it?
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On September 28 2014 05:52 Killing wrote:
I'm claiming.
I have a red check, I just wanted to see if I could kill the person today without outing but it seems it's a no go. I think the team is: SkyDragon, Red Check and a random third.
You didn't try to lynch anyone today and considering what you said so far it is probably one of HF and Palmar. Just spill it already.
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On September 28 2014 06:17 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 06:16 SkyDragon wrote:
Well, considering Killing said
- Me, GB and Palmar were scum
- GB turned out to be Town
- I know I'm Town
In my view, Palmar is probably Town as well then because Killing has talked rubbish from his very first post by making silly conclusions based on flimsy evidence. SkyDragon on a scale of 1 to SkyDragon how scummy am I?
rofl
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On September 28 2014 06:26 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 06:25 SkyDragon wrote:
I'm starting to think that Killing is claiming Seer to get real Seer to reveal themselves somehow so he can be killed tonight. It's quite simple. step 1: we vote killing step 2: killing reveals his check step 3: we discuss what we think about step 2, and lynch accordingly
Seems like a reasonable plan.
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On September 28 2014 06:48 Killing wrote:
Wait, palmar is telling me to out my check. Sitting on this fucking check then.
##Vote: Killing
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On September 28 2014 07:02 Killing wrote:
Fuck that, I outted early. I'm getting the most info out of it before I out it.
If you want to get information you should have questioned/pushed without claiming, Now you won't get any, good fucking job.
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On September 28 2014 07:35 Killing wrote:
Honestly,I was gonna fake a red on someone but this game is so terrible I don't even feel like giving a fuck. n0 hopeless n1 bats peace i'm out gl finding the mafia
Are you fucking kidding me? You outed with A greencheck?
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Or are you saying you redchecked bats?
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On September 28 2014 07:40 Holyflare wrote:
what the fuck you outed with 2 green checks when there was 0 chance of you dying
One of which is FUCKING DEAD.
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Without him even trying to save him.
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We should lynch Skydragon then.
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This is so awful. I am gone for tonight.
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What are you guys doing? We are not lynching an uncced seer however scummy he might be.
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On September 28 2014 08:35 SkyDragon wrote:
I'm out of here as well. I may or may not come back and check in tomorrow since my lynch vote is staying on Killing till the end of d2 over what happened earlier.
We are lynching this guy.
Assuming Killing is town the only possible scum on his wagon is storr and while my townread on storr is fading rather quicklyI still don't really think he is mafia.
If Palmar stays on Killing he is probably scum too.
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On September 28 2014 12:13 Superbia wrote:
justanothertownie - His posts feel a lot less vanilla-town this day and I like it. Didn't even have to visit the filter to notice his posts! Him pinging out killing also let to the weak cop claim, so if killing flips scum JAT is pretty much confirmed town. Leaving him null for now. Also not a lynch for now.
What the hell? What are my posts supposed to feel like if not Vanilla Town?
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On September 28 2014 14:31 HaruRH wrote:
... i suddenly don't feel like lynching killing even though he is my top scumread.
I just feel the 'i can't express myself well so i give up' feel from killing.
Not only is this bullhit but also a massive overjustification.
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On September 28 2014 22:04 SkyDragon wrote:
I've already pointed out who I think Mafia are. Sorry, but I can't do all this deep analysis stuff (Which is wrong most of the time anyway) and I just rely on gut instinct when it comes to such things.
But go ahead and lynch me. I've only ever given GB a somewhat free pass whilst saying that I'm suspicious of everyone else (GB, who turned out to be a Villager when most people insisted that he was scum) - If that makes me scum, then whatever. Just goes to show that almost everyone's readings and analysis in this game is garbage.
Sick dodge.
I don't care how you get your reads. Please tell us how you view the game right now and why even if some reads did not change.
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On September 28 2014 23:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Sup.
You too. Who should we lynch today and why?
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On September 28 2014 23:25 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 23:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:02 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Sup. You too. Who should we lynch today and why? I'm starting to think about Haru. I don't really know where he stands on anything now that Killing claimed Seer, and I can't remember anything he has posted except the fact that he dropped Killing from his scumlist for no reason.
Ok. What about Sky?
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On September 28 2014 23:18 SkyDragon wrote:Actually, I think I'll remove my lynch vote from Killing. I went out to prove him guilty but now I don't think he is. Looking at it from Killing's perspective (If he's Seer), his posts to date make sense if he really is Seer. On d1, he knew that Hopeless is Villager, and his posts seem to tally up with that since he defends Hopeless and calls him Town at every opportunity. He also puts him in the 'Town Circle'. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 08:21 Killing wrote:On September 26 2014 08:04 Superbia wrote:On September 26 2014 07:57 Killing wrote:
All you need to win this game is a town circle of 7 (including yourself).
Killing
Storr
Superbia
HF
Haru
Hopeless
I personally think that's a strong town circle. Basically just need 1 more and game is easy rares especially since seer will probably come out with red or green on someone scummy tommorow. I really wanna hear reads from obi and bat. How are you reading hopeless town? Yolo read off of one post, although I like what else he has said. He's my weakest town atm but at least when I read his posts I thought he was town. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 23:26 Killing wrote:
-PALMAR FUCKING MAD THAT HIS TEAM IS LOSING SO HE'S TRYING TO MAKE A CASE ON HOPELESS. I also think he's mad that my town circle is god tier amazing so he's trying to lynch me. When I roll town, I just assume everything I'm doing is right so when people go against me, I'm always highly suspicious that I'm just about to truck mafia and they are getting mad at about it.
-I don't know if you guys get mad when vts tell the seer who they think they should check but I think palmar is a really great check. He had unsubstantiated reads at the start of the day who ended up being scum read and then he backed off of them and I believe that now he's trying to start a BW onto hopeless when his partners are under fire.
Other than that, I also think GB would be a good check. A lot of people are trying to kill him ( including myself), if he flips mafia then good stuff and if he flips town, I think that's also good info.
IN B4 PALMAR STARTS YELLING AT ME great stuff can't wait
Updated Reads:
Town
-Storr
-HF
-Haru
-Obi
-SuperBia
-Hopeless (u mad palmar??????) Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 05:18 Killing wrote:On September 25 2014 08:20 HaruRH wrote:On September 25 2014 08:16 Holyflare wrote:On September 25 2014 08:14 HaruRH wrote:
FINALLY MY FIRST GREEN VANILLA TOWN GAME IN AGES YESSSSSSS this is bull shit ##vote harurh You don't have to believe me as I'm more excited to celebrate the fact that i rolled vt than trying to convince you i am vt I don't correlate activity with alignment. If someone makes 3 posts and I find the posts townie, I call them town. I believe hopeless is town. In response to the vote train on Hopeless and he probably didn't want to make it obvious that he was Seer. Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 09:51 Killing wrote:
HOPELESS BW IS FUCKING BAD PLEASE ALL OFF Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 09:57 Killing wrote:
But for serious, this is a shit vote At this stage, Hopeless was lynched and Killing had already spied on Bats to confirm him as Villager: I think he just started getting irritated with the accusations of being scum: Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:39 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:JAT you didn't really push killing today. All I could find from D2 that you said about killing is: On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless. Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless. Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town. I don't know.. Not a very aggressive push in my book. Maybe you should visit an optician then. Most of my posts today were either pushing for or interrogating Killing. Can you confirm your only reason you think I'm scum is "You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town" Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:45 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:39 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:JAT you didn't really push killing today. All I could find from D2 that you said about killing is: On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:On September 28 2014 00:10 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:06 Holyflare wrote:
I dislike people that say random shit like "mafia led bandwagons" but then don't point out how it was mafia led or what causes it, it's so superficial and useless. Indeed. Same about "there are that many mafia on this wagon and one on the others". Completely baseless and stupid statement. You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:
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You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town. I don't know.. Not a very aggressive push in my book. Maybe you should visit an optician then. Most of my posts today were either pushing for or interrogating Killing. Can you confirm your only reason you think I'm scum is "You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town" That is the main reason. You claim to have townread Hopeless all the time but you did NOTHING to stop the lynch from happening. You didn't even try. It doesn't help you that you also did not do anything even remotely towny the whole game. Meh probably shoulda tried harder but it was pretty impossible so I didn't bother. That's still a terrible reason for scum reading me. So in the heat of the moment, claimed Seer to put an end to the debate. Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:47 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 05:46 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:45 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 05:42 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:39 Killing wrote:On September 28 2014 05:37 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 05:36 Fecalfeast wrote:JAT you didn't really push killing today. All I could find from D2 that you said about killing is: On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:11 HaruRH wrote:
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You're just jelly. Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit. On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 00:15 Killing wrote:
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TELL ME WHY I'M MAFIA. PLEASE You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town. I don't know.. Not a very aggressive push in my book. Maybe you should visit an optician then. Most of my posts today were either pushing for or interrogating Killing. Can you confirm your only reason you think I'm scum is "You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town" That is the main reason. You claim to have townread Hopeless all the time but you did NOTHING to stop the lynch from happening. You didn't even try. It doesn't help you that you also did not do anything even remotely towny the whole game. Meh probably shoulda tried harder but it was pretty impossible so I didn't bother. That's still a terrible reason for scum reading me. No, it is a very good reason. GONNA BE A PRETTY FUCKING BAD REASON WHEN I CLAIM SEER Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:52 Killing wrote:
I'm claiming.
I have a red check, I just wanted to see if I could kill the person today without outing but it seems it's a no go. I think the team is: SkyDragon, Red Check and a random third. Still think it was a terrible move on his part. The lie about a Red Check made it look even worse for him.
Ok, but I would like to know who you would vote right now. Musing about Killing and/or his alignment is not productive right now.
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On September 28 2014 23:41 Palmar wrote:
Okay, I feel less confident about Obi being town than I felt day 1. However I think I'm going to have to trust my day 1 read. I just read the interaction where he and Glowbear randomly posted very similar things and he mentioned mindmeld, which is one of the main reasons I thought Obi was town in the first place, as at the time I was pretty convinced GB was town and the wagon on him was bs.
I'm super unsure on Obi, like i further filter readings make me want to not kill other people I might kill him, but I'm sorta doubting it right now.
What a helpful read.
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On September 28 2014 23:47 Palmar wrote:
JAT do you think HF could be mafia?
Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion.
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On September 28 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion.
So, do you think he is mafia or why are you asking?
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On September 28 2014 23:52 Palmar wrote:
Btw why was GB killed?
It's dumb speculation but I'm still interested.
I don't really get that either.
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On September 28 2014 23:53 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
The fact that nobody was using the voting thread made me think they were joke votes. That's why I didn't use the thread anyway.
Lol I actually like your case holyflare This is my number 1 post for townreading FF. Holyflare's case is very obviously sort of a troll case, and it seems quite risky for mafia to randomly announced they like that case. It's much safer to just ignore it. I'm also a bit confused by him. A lot of his attitude from day 1 feels pretty townie, but it doesn't feel very much like he is scumhunting since his reads posts on day 1. I guess I can't blame him with batsnacks and killing trolling the thread. He goes into the tentative town column too, like Obi.
Meeeh. I think that's a weak read. I mean I agree with you that he isn't very scummy because to me his play looks pretty similar to last game but anyone could say that really. The case wasn't that bad for the start of the game.
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On September 28 2014 23:58 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:47 Palmar wrote:
JAT do you think HF could be mafia? Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion. So, do you think he is mafia or why are you asking? I'm interested in your opinion, and I'd actually more like to know more specifics. Basically, HF has a daunting 14 page filter. He's super annoying to deal with as mafia, and is actually very good at mafia. I still do not trust how he joined the Hopeless wagon yesterday, because I feel he should've made up his mind much earlier. It seems strange that after I posted the initial case on Hopeless, he kept doing other stuff for a long time, then joined much later with basically no new evidence (that is if I recall the events correctly). I feel townflare is confident enough to make a call on my case right there and either disagree or agree. But then again, he has made a few good observations, and he's capable of that as mafia, but as town as well. This is why I wanted him checked. Problem is the worst player in town seems to have gotten the cop role, so all we're getting out of that is a self-claim + 1 green, which is just as bad as if he had claimed on day 1. Anyway, I'm almost definitely going to leave HF until last while reading the potential targets, and I'm super afraid I will actually not lynch him ever if he's mafia, because it's just too much work.
I really am the wrong person to ask here. I have an abysmal track record for catching scum HF. He is responsible for 2 of my recent failures.
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On September 28 2014 23:59 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 23:57 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:53 Palmar wrote:On September 25 2014 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
The fact that nobody was using the voting thread made me think they were joke votes. That's why I didn't use the thread anyway.
Lol I actually like your case holyflare This is my number 1 post for townreading FF. Holyflare's case is very obviously sort of a troll case, and it seems quite risky for mafia to randomly announced they like that case. It's much safer to just ignore it. I'm also a bit confused by him. A lot of his attitude from day 1 feels pretty townie, but it doesn't feel very much like he is scumhunting since his reads posts on day 1. I guess I can't blame him with batsnacks and killing trolling the thread. He goes into the tentative town column too, like Obi. Meeeh. I think that's a weak read. I mean I agree with you that he isn't very scummy because to me his play looks pretty similar to last game but anyone could say that really. The case wasn't that bad for the start of the game. Of course. But the lol is important, as in he is not overselling his buy-in on the case. The fact that he wrote "lol" shows that he recognizes it's a bit of a troll case, and he is still willing to support it.
That's true but I still think that is not enough to townread him.
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Like I think the most scummy people right now are Sky/Haru/maybe Superbia. HF is pushing this way. As long as he does so I won't waste my time trying to read him.
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On September 29 2014 00:04 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 00:02 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:59 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 23:57 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:53 Palmar wrote:On September 25 2014 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
The fact that nobody was using the voting thread made me think they were joke votes. That's why I didn't use the thread anyway.
Lol I actually like your case holyflare This is my number 1 post for townreading FF. Holyflare's case is very obviously sort of a troll case, and it seems quite risky for mafia to randomly announced they like that case. It's much safer to just ignore it. I'm also a bit confused by him. A lot of his attitude from day 1 feels pretty townie, but it doesn't feel very much like he is scumhunting since his reads posts on day 1. I guess I can't blame him with batsnacks and killing trolling the thread. He goes into the tentative town column too, like Obi. Meeeh. I think that's a weak read. I mean I agree with you that he isn't very scummy because to me his play looks pretty similar to last game but anyone could say that really. The case wasn't that bad for the start of the game. Of course. But the lol is important, as in he is not overselling his buy-in on the case. The fact that he wrote "lol" shows that he recognizes it's a bit of a troll case, and he is still willing to support it. That's true but I still think that is not enough to townread him. Sure, you don't have to townread him, but it's still better than anything else I have. Like if I read you, hf, haru, sky, superbia, storr and you all look super town, I'll be all for lynching FF, but at the moment he feels more in the town column, mostly based on this.
Ok, whatever. Go on.
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On September 29 2014 00:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:58 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:47 Palmar wrote:
JAT do you think HF could be mafia? Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion. So, do you think he is mafia or why are you asking? I'm interested in your opinion, and I'd actually more like to know more specifics. Basically, HF has a daunting 14 page filter. He's super annoying to deal with as mafia, and is actually very good at mafia. I still do not trust how he joined the Hopeless wagon yesterday, because I feel he should've made up his mind much earlier. It seems strange that after I posted the initial case on Hopeless, he kept doing other stuff for a long time, then joined much later with basically no new evidence (that is if I recall the events correctly). I feel townflare is confident enough to make a call on my case right there and either disagree or agree. But then again, he has made a few good observations, and he's capable of that as mafia, but as town as well. This is why I wanted him checked. Problem is the worst player in town seems to have gotten the cop role, so all we're getting out of that is a self-claim + 1 green, which is just as bad as if he had claimed on day 1. Anyway, I'm almost definitely going to leave HF until last while reading the potential targets, and I'm super afraid I will actually not lynch him ever if he's mafia, because it's just too much work. I really am the wrong person to ask here. I have an abysmal track record for catching scum HF. He is responsible for 2 of my recent failures. I know you are the wrong person, that is precisely why I'm asking you. You have barely even mentioned holyflare at all this game. I think the closest thing you came to talking about him was your ninja vote commentary. That's nothing. In fact I feel like you guys haven't interacted all that much throughout the game, which feels sorta weird.
I don't think this is true.
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On September 29 2014 00:15 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 00:09 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 00:05 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:58 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:47 Palmar wrote:
JAT do you think HF could be mafia? Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion. So, do you think he is mafia or why are you asking? I'm interested in your opinion, and I'd actually more like to know more specifics. Basically, HF has a daunting 14 page filter. He's super annoying to deal with as mafia, and is actually very good at mafia. I still do not trust how he joined the Hopeless wagon yesterday, because I feel he should've made up his mind much earlier. It seems strange that after I posted the initial case on Hopeless, he kept doing other stuff for a long time, then joined much later with basically no new evidence (that is if I recall the events correctly). I feel townflare is confident enough to make a call on my case right there and either disagree or agree. But then again, he has made a few good observations, and he's capable of that as mafia, but as town as well. This is why I wanted him checked. Problem is the worst player in town seems to have gotten the cop role, so all we're getting out of that is a self-claim + 1 green, which is just as bad as if he had claimed on day 1. Anyway, I'm almost definitely going to leave HF until last while reading the potential targets, and I'm super afraid I will actually not lynch him ever if he's mafia, because it's just too much work. I really am the wrong person to ask here. I have an abysmal track record for catching scum HF. He is responsible for 2 of my recent failures. I know you are the wrong person, that is precisely why I'm asking you. You have barely even mentioned holyflare at all this game. I think the closest thing you came to talking about him was your ninja vote commentary. That's nothing. In fact I feel like you guys haven't interacted all that much throughout the game, which feels sorta weird. I don't think this is true. I stand corrected. I forgot to press the "all" button when ctrl+f ing your filter so I missed a bunch of interactions. Anyway I still want you to consider it. You know as well as me that if HF is mafia, it's going to take both of us to lynch him.
I will consider it. But I really don't think he is the lynch today.
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On September 29 2014 00:31 Palmar wrote:
I'm off for a bit, coming up, haru, storr and skydragon.
leaving jat and hf, but also leaving a formal request that jat and hf both look really hard at each other.
You are a lazy and awful human being.
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On September 29 2014 04:19 SkyDragon wrote:
- JAT hasn't really done much all game in my view
Let's see. I was the first one to really push you as far as I remember and I did so for nearly all day1. I only changed to Hopeless because HF made a pretty convincing argument about that guy.
I was the one pushing hard for Killing today. I am one of the people pushing hard to lynch you now.
Yeah, sure I haven't done much. Now die.
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On September 29 2014 03:42 SkyDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 23:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, but I would like to know who you would vote right now. Musing about Killing and/or his alignment is not productive right now. Well, if you really want to know, just from seeing your filter, I'd vote for you to be lynched. All you've done since the start of d1 is whine, complain and point fingers at others. You haven't really contributed anything at all but have talked enough to make it appear as if you have. Neither have you pushed anyone yourself except those who are being pushed by someone else anyway (You seem more than happy to jump on the bandwagon) and haven't said anything original at all. I'm starting to think that you're scum.
Blatant lie.
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On September 29 2014 00:31 Palmar wrote:
I'm off for a bit, coming up, haru, storr and skydragon.
leaving jat and hf, but also leaving a formal request that jat and hf both look really hard at each other.
On September 29 2014 05:00 Palmar wrote:
##vote Justanothertownie
Process of elimination, but whatever lynch sky if you want.
You might want to explain this.
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On September 29 2014 05:11 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:05 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 00:31 Palmar wrote:
I'm off for a bit, coming up, haru, storr and skydragon.
leaving jat and hf, but also leaving a formal request that jat and hf both look really hard at each other. On September 29 2014 05:00 Palmar wrote:
##vote Justanothertownie
Process of elimination, but whatever lynch sky if you want. You might want to explain this. left house, won't have time to finish. Had a townread on storr yesterday, and skydragon seems to be fairly genuine in his latest posting (not that I have read his filter) Also, I just feel like there's too much agreement on this lynch. Maybe it's a bus, he did have that post with the massive overjustification for his presence on the hopeless wagon.
Are you actually mafia?
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You want to lynch me FOR POE when you didn't even read the main wagons filter?
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On September 29 2014 05:13 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:13 justanothertownie wrote:
You want to lynch me FOR POE when you didn't even read the main wagons filter? yeah, kinda!
I refuse to believe you are this stupid. I townread you day1 and I was about to townread you for sheer effort today but tbh most of your reads are pretty weak and this is just horrendous.
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Maybe batsnacks is right after all.
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On September 29 2014 05:16 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:15 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:13 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:13 justanothertownie wrote:
You want to lynch me FOR POE when you didn't even read the main wagons filter? yeah, kinda! I refuse to believe you are this stupid. I townread you day1 and I was about to townread you for sheer effort today but tbh most of your reads are pretty weak and this is just horrendous. It's weekend, you've played a ton of games with me. I have probably never put in this much effort on a weekend before (at least in the last year or so), so...
So what. Last game as town you refused to put in any effort before it was too late. On the other hand I have seen scumgames of you with lots of effort.
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On September 29 2014 05:17 Palmar wrote:
What is it about you that makes you so blatantly town that it's actually scummy for me to get you "wrong" JAT? Can you explain?
It is fucking scummy that you don't even call me scummy but still want to lynch me. For fucking POE while you do not care to even read a few people.
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On September 29 2014 05:18 Palmar wrote:
Like ask me the same question, or just the part where I explain why I'm blatantly town and I'll be able to answer you, easily.
You will just say that you put in effort again. Guess what - i did that too. I pushed Skydragon day1 and now day2, I pushed Killing so hard he somehow felt the need to claim. I tried to get shit done.
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On September 29 2014 05:22 SkyDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 04:19 SkyDragon wrote:
- JAT hasn't really done much all game in my view
Let's see. I was the first one to really push you as far as I remember and I did so for nearly all day1. I only changed to Hopeless because HF made a pretty convincing argument about that guy. I was the one pushing hard for Killing today. I am one of the people pushing hard to lynch you now. Yeah, sure I haven't done much. Now die. Nothing you stated there wasn't being done anyway.
Haha. Blatant lie #2. Please show me how people pushed you before I did. Please show me who pushed harder or earlier for Killing today.
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On September 29 2014 05:24 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:18 Palmar wrote:
Like ask me the same question, or just the part where I explain why I'm blatantly town and I'll be able to answer you, easily. You will just say that you put in effort again. Guess what - i did that too. I pushed Skydragon day1 and now day2, I pushed Killing so hard he somehow felt the need to claim. I tried to get shit done. Nah it's not only effort. There was no need for me yesterday to disagree and help dissipate the glowingbear wagon, I even early on said he could be mafia for something he posted, I changed my mind and pushed an alternative wagon instead, pushed it quite hard actually. Also I'm doing (again) the thing where I only give opinions on what I have actually read, I'm not pretending to do more than I'm doing, but I also have substantial work in terms of what I have done, and done well. I'm breaking things down. Like seriously if I'm mafia, I'm on this skydragon wagon every time. Even if he's a teammate I'm bussing the fuck out of him and yelling at him in the QT.
WIFOM.
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On September 29 2014 05:26 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:24 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:22 SkyDragon wrote:On September 29 2014 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 04:19 SkyDragon wrote:
- JAT hasn't really done much all game in my view
Let's see. I was the first one to really push you as far as I remember and I did so for nearly all day1. I only changed to Hopeless because HF made a pretty convincing argument about that guy. I was the one pushing hard for Killing today. I am one of the people pushing hard to lynch you now. Yeah, sure I haven't done much. Now die. Nothing you stated there wasn't being done anyway. Haha. Blatant lie #2. Please show me how people pushed you before I did. Please show me who pushed harder or earlier for Killing today. Could you stop burying him, if you're town it's actually valuable for you to get him to change his mind on you even if he ends up getting lynched. And if he's mafia, why are you arguing with him?
I am proving that what he says is bullshit in order to lynch him. That is why I am arguing with him. If you can't see that what he posted today is maliciously wrong then you are either mafia or way dumber than I thought.
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On September 29 2014 05:28 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:24 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:18 Palmar wrote:
Like ask me the same question, or just the part where I explain why I'm blatantly town and I'll be able to answer you, easily. You will just say that you put in effort again. Guess what - i did that too. I pushed Skydragon day1 and now day2, I pushed Killing so hard he somehow felt the need to claim. I tried to get shit done. Nah it's not only effort. There was no need for me yesterday to disagree and help dissipate the glowingbear wagon, I even early on said he could be mafia for something he posted, I changed my mind and pushed an alternative wagon instead, pushed it quite hard actually. Also I'm doing (again) the thing where I only give opinions on what I have actually read, I'm not pretending to do more than I'm doing, but I also have substantial work in terms of what I have done, and done well. I'm breaking things down. Like seriously if I'm mafia, I'm on this skydragon wagon every time. Even if he's a teammate I'm bussing the fuck out of him and yelling at him in the QT. WIFOM. That's not even an argument. Everything, literally everything, in mafia is wifom. The goal of the game is to recognize which glass is more likely to be poisoned.
No shit. But you not being on the Sky wagon does not prove your alignment in any possible case.
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Regardless of what he flips.
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On September 29 2014 05:30 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:28 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:26 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:24 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:22 SkyDragon wrote:On September 29 2014 05:03 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 04:19 SkyDragon wrote:
- JAT hasn't really done much all game in my view
Let's see. I was the first one to really push you as far as I remember and I did so for nearly all day1. I only changed to Hopeless because HF made a pretty convincing argument about that guy. I was the one pushing hard for Killing today. I am one of the people pushing hard to lynch you now. Yeah, sure I haven't done much. Now die. Nothing you stated there wasn't being done anyway. Haha. Blatant lie #2. Please show me how people pushed you before I did. Please show me who pushed harder or earlier for Killing today. Could you stop burying him, if you're town it's actually valuable for you to get him to change his mind on you even if he ends up getting lynched. And if he's mafia, why are you arguing with him? I am proving that what he says is bullshit in order to lynch him. That is why I am arguing with him. If you can't see that what he posted today is maliciously wrong then you are either mafia or way dumber than I thought. Can I call you bad if he flips town?
Only if you are town yourself.
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On September 29 2014 05:32 SkyDragon wrote:
But can you guys tell me something - If pretty much everyone has voted to lynch me at one time or another, how does it make sense that I'm Mafia?
It makes sense because you are so obviously scummy that your buddies feel the need to bus you to not be caught immediately after you flip.
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On September 29 2014 05:34 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:28 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:24 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:18 Palmar wrote:
Like ask me the same question, or just the part where I explain why I'm blatantly town and I'll be able to answer you, easily. You will just say that you put in effort again. Guess what - i did that too. I pushed Skydragon day1 and now day2, I pushed Killing so hard he somehow felt the need to claim. I tried to get shit done. Nah it's not only effort. There was no need for me yesterday to disagree and help dissipate the glowingbear wagon, I even early on said he could be mafia for something he posted, I changed my mind and pushed an alternative wagon instead, pushed it quite hard actually. Also I'm doing (again) the thing where I only give opinions on what I have actually read, I'm not pretending to do more than I'm doing, but I also have substantial work in terms of what I have done, and done well. I'm breaking things down. Like seriously if I'm mafia, I'm on this skydragon wagon every time. Even if he's a teammate I'm bussing the fuck out of him and yelling at him in the QT. WIFOM. That's not even an argument. Everything, literally everything, in mafia is wifom. The goal of the game is to recognize which glass is more likely to be poisoned. No shit. But you not being on the Sky wagon does not prove your alignment in any possible case. What about this then. If I'm mafia and you're town, where's the benefit in me tanking my towncred with you by doing exactly what I'm doing? herp derp
I have no idea.
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On September 29 2014 05:37 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:35 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:34 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:28 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:24 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:18 Palmar wrote:
Like ask me the same question, or just the part where I explain why I'm blatantly town and I'll be able to answer you, easily. You will just say that you put in effort again. Guess what - i did that too. I pushed Skydragon day1 and now day2, I pushed Killing so hard he somehow felt the need to claim. I tried to get shit done. Nah it's not only effort. There was no need for me yesterday to disagree and help dissipate the glowingbear wagon, I even early on said he could be mafia for something he posted, I changed my mind and pushed an alternative wagon instead, pushed it quite hard actually. Also I'm doing (again) the thing where I only give opinions on what I have actually read, I'm not pretending to do more than I'm doing, but I also have substantial work in terms of what I have done, and done well. I'm breaking things down. Like seriously if I'm mafia, I'm on this skydragon wagon every time. Even if he's a teammate I'm bussing the fuck out of him and yelling at him in the QT. WIFOM. That's not even an argument. Everything, literally everything, in mafia is wifom. The goal of the game is to recognize which glass is more likely to be poisoned. No shit. But you not being on the Sky wagon does not prove your alignment in any possible case. What about this then. If I'm mafia and you're town, where's the benefit in me tanking my towncred with you by doing exactly what I'm doing? herp derp I have no idea. The simple explanation, if you're town, is that I'm town too, not sure what I'm doing but pretty sure this is a bad lynch, throwing a random one out there.
See? And that's the problem. You are throwing a RANDOM out there. That's ridiculous at this point in the game.
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On September 29 2014 05:47 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:37 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:35 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:34 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:28 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:24 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:
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You will just say that you put in effort again. Guess what - i did that too. I pushed Skydragon day1 and now day2, I pushed Killing so hard he somehow felt the need to claim. I tried to get shit done. Nah it's not only effort. There was no need for me yesterday to disagree and help dissipate the glowingbear wagon, I even early on said he could be mafia for something he posted, I changed my mind and pushed an alternative wagon instead, pushed it quite hard actually. Also I'm doing (again) the thing where I only give opinions on what I have actually read, I'm not pretending to do more than I'm doing, but I also have substantial work in terms of what I have done, and done well. I'm breaking things down. Like seriously if I'm mafia, I'm on this skydragon wagon every time. Even if he's a teammate I'm bussing the fuck out of him and yelling at him in the QT. WIFOM. That's not even an argument. Everything, literally everything, in mafia is wifom. The goal of the game is to recognize which glass is more likely to be poisoned. No shit. But you not being on the Sky wagon does not prove your alignment in any possible case. What about this then. If I'm mafia and you're town, where's the benefit in me tanking my towncred with you by doing exactly what I'm doing? herp derp I have no idea. The simple explanation, if you're town, is that I'm town too, not sure what I'm doing but pretty sure this is a bad lynch, throwing a random one out there. See? And that's the problem. You are throwing a RANDOM out there. That's ridiculous at this point in the game. Give him some space at least he voted. If me and skydragon vote Palmar will you? 3 is enough to lynch.
Why would I vote with my biggest scumread?!
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On September 29 2014 05:49 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:47 batsnacks wrote:On September 29 2014 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:37 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:35 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:34 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:28 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:
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WIFOM. That's not even an argument. Everything, literally everything, in mafia is wifom. The goal of the game is to recognize which glass is more likely to be poisoned. No shit. But you not being on the Sky wagon does not prove your alignment in any possible case. What about this then. If I'm mafia and you're town, where's the benefit in me tanking my towncred with you by doing exactly what I'm doing? herp derp I have no idea. The simple explanation, if you're town, is that I'm town too, not sure what I'm doing but pretty sure this is a bad lynch, throwing a random one out there. See? And that's the problem. You are throwing a RANDOM out there. That's ridiculous at this point in the game. Give him some space at least he voted. If me and skydragon vote Palmar will you? 3 is enough to lynch. Why would I vote with my biggest scumread?! Because I am forcing him to vote who I want. He doesn't have a say in who he votes if he wants to live.
Ok, but I still am way more sure about Sky being scum than Palmar so no.
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On September 29 2014 05:56 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:51 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:49 batsnacks wrote:On September 29 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:47 batsnacks wrote:On September 29 2014 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:37 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:35 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:34 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:
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No shit. But you not being on the Sky wagon does not prove your alignment in any possible case. What about this then. If I'm mafia and you're town, where's the benefit in me tanking my towncred with you by doing exactly what I'm doing? herp derp I have no idea. The simple explanation, if you're town, is that I'm town too, not sure what I'm doing but pretty sure this is a bad lynch, throwing a random one out there. See? And that's the problem. You are throwing a RANDOM out there. That's ridiculous at this point in the game. Give him some space at least he voted. If me and skydragon vote Palmar will you? 3 is enough to lynch. Why would I vote with my biggest scumread?! Because I am forcing him to vote who I want. He doesn't have a say in who he votes if he wants to live. Ok, but I still am way more sure about Sky being scum than Palmar so no. Doesn't it bother you that sky is the only wagon right now? Aside from me pushing Palmar and Palmar voting haru, there is no other option for a lynch right now. I don't understand how all of town actually believes sky will flip mafia.
If you are not believing it you should start reading his posts, dude.
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And I think I would lynch Haru over Palmar.
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On September 29 2014 06:14 SkyDragon wrote:
Looks like it'll be 6 Villagers (My mislynch + Killing probably being killed off) and 3 Mafia tomorrow.
Good luck.
This is not how a wagoned townie acts several hours before deadline.
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On September 29 2014 08:04 StorrZerg wrote:
wtf why is killing on jat.
Who the fuck knows...
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On September 29 2014 06:49 Holyflare wrote:
I think i want to switch this whole game up and kill someone else
Like who?
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On September 29 2014 08:08 StorrZerg wrote:
sky vote on jat makes more sense now following the cop. honestly the best thing he has done all game
Yeah, since being cop automatically means you are right all the time. Like what?
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On September 29 2014 08:09 StorrZerg wrote:
Jat tell me why i shouldn't convince everyone to bw on you
Maybe you should tell everyone instead what reason there is to bw me?
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On September 29 2014 08:10 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
Storr you literally haven't read this game at all well considering i've been biking and camping this weekend. my current level of understanding of day 2. is pretty low. So sure, for day 2. no
That's pretty obvious.
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On September 29 2014 08:12 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 08:09 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 08:08 StorrZerg wrote:
sky vote on jat makes more sense now following the cop. honestly the best thing he has done all game Yeah, since being cop automatically means you are right all the time. Like what? and i trust him. i trust the play he made. i'm j pissed off he isn't even trying at this point in time. i mean. its simple "yo cop wants him lynched folllow cop to hell cause he dead w/e he probably has a good idea since he is not counter claimed" people have lynched for worse shit, "o look hopless lied about his activity (turns out it wasn't really a lie"
No. This is worse than the hopeless lynch by far. What play are you even talking about?
Why do you assume Killing has a good idea?
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You are making your own application for being the lynch right now.
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Directed at Storr obviously.
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On September 29 2014 08:27 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 08:24 StorrZerg wrote:
2 things of note, you pushed "lies" near the end of day 1, to force pressure off skydragon So your bull shit here is that i pushed the wagon off mafia sky dragon 20 minutes before deadline because i was happy to just let him die the entirety of the day and could predict that hopeless would return at deadline and do his bull shit? You're useless
+ He is voting for me. You know, the guy who has been pushing mafia Skydragon all day.
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On September 29 2014 08:33 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 08:29 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 08:27 Holyflare wrote:On September 29 2014 08:24 StorrZerg wrote:
2 things of note, you pushed "lies" near the end of day 1, to force pressure off skydragon So your bull shit here is that i pushed the wagon off mafia sky dragon 20 minutes before deadline because i was happy to just let him die the entirety of the day and could predict that hopeless would return at deadline and do his bull shit? You're useless + He is voting for me. You know, the guy who has been pushing mafia Skydragon all day. yeah and ill most likely switch back a team of hf sky jat is really not possible
No shit sherlock...
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... Palmar knows very well that noone will listen to him and is still throwing his vote on a guy that isn't being lynched.
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On September 29 2014 09:02 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 09:01 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 29 2014 09:01 batsnacks wrote:
Who wants to vote JAT? I am down for spite lynching anyone not voting Palmar. At this point, that's basically everyone. So...You've got your work cut out for you. Want to vote JAT? I'm serious.
Our basically confirmed townies are playing really well this game.
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We lynch sky because he is the scummiest scummer there ever was.
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Like I haven't heard a single argument for why sky could be town today. Only "so many people are scumreading him so he must be town" which is stupid and I bet the people saying it did not read his posts today.
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On September 29 2014 22:21 Holyflare wrote:
And obi and confirmed town batsnacks holding people hostage to kill a towny
Nobody forced you to hammer palmar you genius. This is the second time you lynched at townie over Skydragon and it fucking smells.
On September 29 2014 22:24 Holyflare wrote:
So sky/Superbia/jat/haru/fecal
And what the hell is up with that? Sure the people on Palmar are all town. Scum obviously has to be in the people that voted for an actually scummy guy.
/s
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You even argued against the Palmar lynch but you still voted him.
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Like Storrs reasoning for pushing Palmar is so wrong it can't be unintentional. And you are calling him town for it.
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On September 29 2014 09:17 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:10 Palmar wrote:
Also for what it's worth, I sincerely fucking hope our cop checked Holyflare last night. I am in no mood to argue with him for 15 pages, but there is a chance he is mafia. There's something off about his play here, he's just not.... being smart and analytical enough for my taste. super fake post. Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 05:16 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 05:14 batsnacks wrote:
This isn't game related or anything, but was English your first language? Your English is really good. Nope, Icelandic is my first language. it was strange that palmar talked about this. Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 07:40 Palmar wrote:
Yeah policy lynching Killing for this. This has to be the 4th or 5tth remark about "policy lynching" I don't think town palmar talks about policy lynches all the time. Most of his pushes day 1, had to do with policy, and today he keeps enforcing policy.
Nothing here makes sense. Palmar talked about the language because he was ASKED about it. He always talks about policies and Storr should know that since he was in the last game where this was a discussed issue.
On September 29 2014 09:27 StorrZerg wrote:
Palmar hasn't been active in doing anything. He has a lot of posts, but he is doing nothing to progress the game.
His day 1 push was a feeling. Half of his scum reads are because of policy. haru "gotta be scum because he said he was going to a real life event" "killing gotta be scum cause not claiming asap" etc etc etc.
Palmar was the only one who took the time to analyse multiple people without being poked to do so or them being on the chopping block. If there was someone that did things to progress the game -> Palmar.
You don't have to agree with his reads. I didn't either. But saying that Palmar did nothing is just asinine.
On September 29 2014 09:32 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 09:30 Superbia wrote:On September 29 2014 09:24 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 09:22 Superbia wrote:
I don't think Palmar is scum here, should just stick with the vote for today. NO SWITCH NOW I'm not convinced man. The whole icelandic thing and the policy lynches thing are both really weak. His fake post? Makes sense from my perspective. The only thing you have on him is the sudden townread on you, which is in no way alignment indicative enough for me to switch. Like do you have any other substantial reads? How did you even switch to Palmar that quickly? palmar isn't doing anything. Sky could be town and be just bad. super fucking bad. (he still is likely mafia) palmars previous game, he had reads as town. he "did things" i really don't care if he is known for policy, his entire play has been policy over stupid things. He literally doesn't care about EoD
Palmar gave reads. Probably more of them than anyone else here.
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The biggest failure in this game is that Sky did not get lynched 2 times now.
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You are not the person to succumb to peer pressure if you don't agree.
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On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded.
lol wut
How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop?
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On September 29 2014 23:35 SkyDragon wrote:
JAT, if you had a clue about anything at all, you'd realize that me and Storr have been trying to lynch each other since the start. You, however, are scummy as well. At this stage, I'd say even more so than Storr.
Storr has most definitely not tried to lynch you.
Feel free to elaborate on your great read.
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On September 29 2014 23:38 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded. lol wut How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop? Because bats "softed" first
If you thought that soft was real you would not have believed that bats had a redcheck on Palmar but on HF.
/dunked
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On September 29 2014 23:40 SkyDragon wrote:
He's been trying to get me lynched almost since the start. It's apparent that you aren't really reading anything. He''ll, he kept his lynch vote on me on d1. Keep talking though, you're making me see you more and more scummy with every post.
He actively tried to NOT get you lynched yesterday. Saying you think someone is scummy does not equal trying to lynch him.
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On September 29 2014 23:44 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 23:40 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:38 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded. lol wut How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop? Because bats "softed" first If you thought that soft was real you would not have believed that bats had a redcheck on Palmar but on HF. /dunked Bats was pushing palmar not hf.
Yeah, but the "soft" was a redcheck on HF. If you believe he is cop for that you can't think that he has a redcheck on Palmar.
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On September 29 2014 23:45 SkyDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 23:37 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:35 SkyDragon wrote:
JAT, if you had a clue about anything at all, you'd realize that me and Storr have been trying to lynch each other since the start. You, however, are scummy as well. At this stage, I'd say even more so than Storr. Storr has most definitely not tried to lynch you. Feel free to elaborate on your great read. So, he never tried lynching me but only didn't try lynching me yesterday when he was absent anyway, but wanted to and would've if he had the chance to? Are you even listening to yourself?
Wtf are you even talking about?!
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On September 29 2014 23:55 SkyDragon wrote:
Alright, let's calm down. I apologize for getting a little frustrated. Town - don't jump on any bandwagons this time and let's all just analyse things properly. Hopefully, we get Mafia this time because we can't afford any more mistakes.
Fine. You start - who is mafia/town and why?
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True. If you caught Killings cop play day1 why the hell would you assume batsnacks is cop.
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Nothing storr says makes any sense.
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I'll be back in a few hours. Looking forward to the "analysis" Skydragon is going to provide.
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On September 30 2014 02:07 Holyflare wrote:The only thing I can now say, knowing that storr had the most bull shit reasons for being on palmar ever is that obi is probably town for the way he was reacting at deadline and the way he was calling out posts. Honestly, I think fecal was pretty towny in reacting as well and he actually stuck to sky better than I actually did, I also like some of his reactions in regards to the hopeless lynch and some other things he's said throughout the game. So changing my previous list it's now sky/storr/superbia/jat/haru ^^ i'll start writing stuff on the above soon, I just really need to take a shit
Your shits take as long as your lunches it seems. You must have a very big stomach.
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On September 30 2014 02:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Not sure if i should just vote HF or one of the wagon derailers storr/obi.
Oh yeah obi you were supposed to be my buddy! Now look where we are, no seer and no dead wolves.
So you don't even consider lynching Sky?
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On September 30 2014 03:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can't i rage for like 2 posts? I didn't vote yet i just had to get that out.
Of course you can. I did too.
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On September 30 2014 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
So am I the only one who thinks maybe we should lynch the guy we've been trying to lynch all game?
Certainly not.
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Why am I not surprised that there is no analysis of any sort coming from Sky?
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On September 30 2014 07:22 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 07:11 StorrZerg wrote:On September 30 2014 07:02 batsnacks wrote:On September 30 2014 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
So am I the only one who thinks maybe we should lynch the guy we've been trying to lynch all game? He did have an opportunity to switch to Palmar. Not that he needed to in the end but he didn't know that. I think mafia votes Palmar in that position. then who are the mafia? I don't know. I'm trying to figure out if the people who switched to Palmar yesterday are scummy for doing so or not. If Palmar and SkyDragon are both town then it sort of makes sense for mafia not to switch just to draw less attention. Palmar was a much more valuable asset than SkyDragon though, so that could justify a risk. I need someone with better reads than I have to comment.
If Sky is town mafia could do whatever they wanted. But as you noticed even then there was a strong motivation to kill Palmar because he is the way better and more dangerous player. And there is no real drawback to pushing him since our confirmed town somehow was having a hard on for him.
It is much more likely that Sky is just scum though.
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Whatever. Going to bed,
We need to lynch scum today and I think our best odds for that are killing Sky or Storrzerg.
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On September 30 2014 07:31 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 07:26 justanothertownie wrote:On September 30 2014 07:22 batsnacks wrote:On September 30 2014 07:11 StorrZerg wrote:On September 30 2014 07:02 batsnacks wrote:On September 30 2014 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
So am I the only one who thinks maybe we should lynch the guy we've been trying to lynch all game? He did have an opportunity to switch to Palmar. Not that he needed to in the end but he didn't know that. I think mafia votes Palmar in that position. then who are the mafia? I don't know. I'm trying to figure out if the people who switched to Palmar yesterday are scummy for doing so or not. If Palmar and SkyDragon are both town then it sort of makes sense for mafia not to switch just to draw less attention. Palmar was a much more valuable asset than SkyDragon though, so that could justify a risk. I need someone with better reads than I have to comment. If Sky is town mafia could do whatever they wanted. But as you noticed even then there was a strong motivation to kill Palmar because he is the way better and more dangerous player. And there is no real drawback to pushing him since our confirmed town somehow was having a hard on for him. It is much more likely that Sky is just scum though. Why is it so much more likely that Sky is scum? He refused to do anything to save himself yesterday, like that Palmar lynch would have been easy if we had his vote.
Maybe he just wasn't around? To me it seemed that he had already given up at that point.
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On September 30 2014 07:33 batsnacks wrote:
Don't you whatever me JAT
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I didn't even whatever you. Not that you will be telling me what to do after your fuckup yesterday.
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On September 30 2014 07:35 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 07:33 justanothertownie wrote:On September 30 2014 07:31 batsnacks wrote:On September 30 2014 07:26 justanothertownie wrote:On September 30 2014 07:22 batsnacks wrote:On September 30 2014 07:11 StorrZerg wrote:On September 30 2014 07:02 batsnacks wrote:On September 30 2014 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
So am I the only one who thinks maybe we should lynch the guy we've been trying to lynch all game? He did have an opportunity to switch to Palmar. Not that he needed to in the end but he didn't know that. I think mafia votes Palmar in that position. then who are the mafia? I don't know. I'm trying to figure out if the people who switched to Palmar yesterday are scummy for doing so or not. If Palmar and SkyDragon are both town then it sort of makes sense for mafia not to switch just to draw less attention. Palmar was a much more valuable asset than SkyDragon though, so that could justify a risk. I need someone with better reads than I have to comment. If Sky is town mafia could do whatever they wanted. But as you noticed even then there was a strong motivation to kill Palmar because he is the way better and more dangerous player. And there is no real drawback to pushing him since our confirmed town somehow was having a hard on for him. It is much more likely that Sky is just scum though. Why is it so much more likely that Sky is scum? He refused to do anything to save himself yesterday, like that Palmar lynch would have been easy if we had his vote. Maybe he just wasn't around? To me it seemed that he had already given up at that point. He was around long enough to vote you.
That does not make him town in any way.
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On September 30 2014 07:35 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 07:33 justanothertownie wrote:On September 30 2014 07:31 batsnacks wrote:On September 30 2014 07:26 justanothertownie wrote:On September 30 2014 07:22 batsnacks wrote:On September 30 2014 07:11 StorrZerg wrote:On September 30 2014 07:02 batsnacks wrote:On September 30 2014 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
So am I the only one who thinks maybe we should lynch the guy we've been trying to lynch all game? He did have an opportunity to switch to Palmar. Not that he needed to in the end but he didn't know that. I think mafia votes Palmar in that position. then who are the mafia? I don't know. I'm trying to figure out if the people who switched to Palmar yesterday are scummy for doing so or not. If Palmar and SkyDragon are both town then it sort of makes sense for mafia not to switch just to draw less attention. Palmar was a much more valuable asset than SkyDragon though, so that could justify a risk. I need someone with better reads than I have to comment. If Sky is town mafia could do whatever they wanted. But as you noticed even then there was a strong motivation to kill Palmar because he is the way better and more dangerous player. And there is no real drawback to pushing him since our confirmed town somehow was having a hard on for him. It is much more likely that Sky is just scum though. Why is it so much more likely that Sky is scum? He refused to do anything to save himself yesterday, like that Palmar lynch would have been easy if we had his vote. Maybe he just wasn't around? To me it seemed that he had already given up at that point. joke right?
No. Maybe I am misremembering from reading it since I fell asleep before the lynch yesterday but I don't think Sky was in the thread at the end of the day.
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On September 30 2014 07:37 batsnacks wrote:
I'm not trying to make anything difficult JAT. I literally tried to force him to vote Palmar and he wouldn't. His reactions don't add up to me if he's mafia.
But that was at a time when Palmar wasn't the one being lynched, no?
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Anyways I am going to sleep now. You should pull your head out of your ass asap.
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On September 30 2014 07:41 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 07:39 justanothertownie wrote:On September 30 2014 07:37 batsnacks wrote:
I'm not trying to make anything difficult JAT. I literally tried to force him to vote Palmar and he wouldn't. His reactions don't add up to me if he's mafia. But that was at a time when Palmar wasn't the one being lynched, no? You were never in danger of being lynched yesterday. He threw his vote away on you when he could have been using it to protect himself. The first thing he did today is rage at the person directly responsible for lynching Palmar over him.
He voted me when there was no realistic counterwagon to him. Apart from maybe me so your whole theory is bullshit. There was NO wagon at Palmar when he voted.
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On September 30 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote:
Superbia, batsnacks told sky to vote palmar to save himself.
So what? That happened when there was max 1 vote on Palmar. I fail to see how it is alignment indicative for Sky to not do it. It very much looked like Palmar would not ever get lynched that day at that moment.
On September 30 2014 08:42 SkyDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 08:20 Superbia wrote:Posted 3 1/2 hours before EoD2:On September 29 2014 06:32 SkyDragon wrote:
Being lynched will actually be a relief, to be honest. I'm actually going to bed now because I have no faith in the Town so don't care which way it goes.
If I've learned anything from this game, it's that I know exactly whose readings to ignore in the future (Provided they end the game as confirmed Town). If they're Mafia, I'll be commending them for the stress they put me through. Posted at the beginning of d3: On September 29 2014 22:40 SkyDragon wrote:
HF, seriously - Stfu. Most of you don't have any clue what the hell you're doing, so just stfu. Especially those morons that lynched Palmar since he was the most Town out of all of us. Hell, I refused to change my vote to him to save myself so that says everything. Either Mafia is driving vote trains to take out those who are active and analysing stuff correctly or Town should all be lynched because nothing is working as it is.
When I get home, I'm going to analyse some things. Keep in mind that the Palmar train didn't take off until 1 hour before EoD2. You want to explain this, sky? Sure, mate. It's called "Try and read everything between those two posts next time instead of selectively quoting comments and trying to get people to explain them". Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:41 batsnacks wrote:
SkyDragon if you vote Palmar I'll unvote you. If you want to get lynched, just keep complaining and doing nothing.
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##vote: SkyDragon Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:44 SkyDragon wrote:On September 29 2014 05:33 batsnacks wrote:
SkyDragon ffs vote someone you are making yourself a really easy mislynch if you're town. Last time I voted, everyone went crazy and called me scummy over it so you'll have to forgive me if I'm a little more cautious this time. Also, it gives me a chance to read everyone's posts first before voting according to my gut instinct. Which I have done. Voted for JAT. Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:44 batsnacks wrote:
I don't want to lynch JAT. We need to compromise. Vote Palmar. Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:47 SkyDragon wrote:
I don't care if anyone votes to lynch me and I won't be influenced in such a way. I've said what I needed to say earlier and Palmar is lower on my list of suspects. Still shady but lower. I'm sticking by my original list of 4 that I posted before. I could be wrong but they are the ones who look scummy to me. Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 05:49 batsnacks wrote:On September 29 2014 05:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:47 batsnacks wrote:On September 29 2014 05:45 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:37 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:35 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:34 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 05:30 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 05:28 Palmar wrote:
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That's not even an argument. Everything, literally everything, in mafia is wifom. The goal of the game is to recognize which glass is more likely to be poisoned.
No shit. But you not being on the Sky wagon does not prove your alignment in any possible case. What about this then. If I'm mafia and you're town, where's the benefit in me tanking my towncred with you by doing exactly what I'm doing? herp derp I have no idea. The simple explanation, if you're town, is that I'm town too, not sure what I'm doing but pretty sure this is a bad lynch, throwing a random one out there. See? And that's the problem. You are throwing a RANDOM out there. That's ridiculous at this point in the game. Give him some space at least he voted. If me and skydragon vote Palmar will you? 3 is enough to lynch. Why would I vote with my biggest scumread?! Because I am forcing him to vote who I want. He doesn't have a say in who he votes if he wants to live. As you can see, Bats was trying to get me to vote Palmar to save myself (I had 6 lynch votes or something at the time). I said no.
How come noone is calling this out?
Superbia is correctly stating what happened -> Sky gave up and afked through the lynch when it looked like he was the lynch and Sky answers urging people to read what happened BETWEEN the 2 posts. But what does he show us? Posts that all happened BEFORE it. Why did noone even notice this?
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On September 30 2014 08:35 SkyDragon wrote:JAT is the person that I would first like to look at and the person that right now I believe most likely to be mafia. He has a few mafia traits in a good many of his posts, he discredits people very early on: Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 17:24 justanothertownie wrote:I don't like SkyDragon. Constantly claiming he is new BUT has played before. And then he posts things like this: On September 25 2014 08:24 SkyDragon wrote:
I know I'm new around here but what's up with the vote train on Holyflare? If that isn't considered suspicious as fuck, I don't know what is. Would it not be easier to just let the Seer do his/her job instead of lynching random villag.. I mean, er, "Vanillagers"? I don't know how people play on the site you are from but this post is the epitome of awful. Since you claim to actually have experience with this kind of setup please enlighten me how the seer of all people is supposed to do his job day fucking 1. How can he lead us to a scumlynch better than anyone else if all he has at this point is a green check? How is he supposed to do that without claiming anyways? Like what? On September 25 2014 09:42 SkyDragon wrote:On September 25 2014 09:32 Holyflare wrote:On September 25 2014 09:27 SkyDragon wrote:
Actually, all three of them claimed to be Town from the off, and HF decided to throw some names out as well (When barely anyone had posted and probably to deflect suspicion from himself). Just thinking out loud. Riddle me this good sir. What suspicion did I need to deflect and how would I go about doing that with 3 names of people that hadn't even spoken yet? In my experience, bad guys have stated names right at the very start to divert peoples attention elsewhere. I'm not saying that you're bad, I'm just saying that I'm cautious of anyone who throws names around during the early part of the game. What should we do instead of throwing names around? Just chill and do nothing? So again - this guy has played this game already. But he is pretending to know nothing at all about it. What gives? Instead of finding out exactly what was meant by the above comments and trying to work with someone from the very start instead he attacks the position the person is coming from and effectively negates any impact that person can have. This is a sign of mafia because he's not trying to understand but to discredit the person involved in the conversation. Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 17:50 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2014 17:45 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 17:29 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2014 08:54 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 08:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 25 2014 08:49 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 08:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF confirmed literate. Sadly that's not enough for me to lynch Haru Hi! I have a feeling that there is a mafia between you and holyflare. Why not both? Why do you think this? I find their buddying style unnatural. Gonna do some quotations to illustrate what I said, brb Since when is buddying early day1 a thing mafia teammates do? On September 25 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
LOL you think I'd go to that much effort to search through a quote to lynchy team mate???? Yes. Since when that is strictly not possible for mafia? Did I say that? But you are threating it like a scumtell and it for sure isn't. Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 17:50 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2014 17:48 GlowingBear wrote:
My dribk senses says JAT is possibly mafia But hey, feel free to elaborate on that. More discrediting and not trying to understand just attacking for no reason. Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 17:59 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2014 17:56 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno i think gb's a bit townier since his onslaught of cases even if they are misplaced. Maybe. Maybe not. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:
I still dislike Sky and I think that should be pretty obvious. It's way too early for an opinion on Palmar. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2014 05:04 SkyDragon wrote:
I'm not going to argue about this any further.
Let's move on.. Sounds good. You could provide some reads instead. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 15:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Sky at least puts in a good amount of effort now but if you read his posts there are so many contradictions/things that don't make sense. Still don't like him. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 15:36 justanothertownie wrote:
GB seems afraid/really defensive - might be scum. Reminds me of the scum qt from Fanfic where he was really really afraid I would vig him.
I will elaborate on those reads when I have time in a few hours. Would probably still lynch Sky. Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 20:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I also don't get townvibes from Hopeless filter. I guess if GB is town Hopeless looks quite shady but I really have doubts about that. This is mostly from his second and first pages of filter. He tells people to give reads, but never gives any reads himself besides "this person might be scum" or that he doesn't like me because of apparent contradictions that he does not even point out at the time. He says that he pushed me d1, but look at the filter he soft pushed at best. This seems to me like a way mafia would try to push a mislynch so that a townie would take it up and run with it. The way he talks about everyone else he interacts with is mostly painting them in a scummy light. Also I found the mafia database and compared some of JATs games, and I did find him to be pointed in his questions and his driving discussion if you look at him in some of his more recent games like Fanfiction and The Guilty Mafia, he really drove discussion and pushed people he thought were scummy. In the fanfic, he really thought Damdred was scummy after a small slip and he did not let up on him he hard pushed him and the thread to vote for him or tried to always bring it up. He is not doing this here. At best, he is just offhandedly soft pushing lynches right now, "oh I do not like this guy" "oh you might be scummy". Now if you compare it to heavy weight championship, you see the same sort of play, JAT is mafia. And if you look at his later filter, it is more of the same and mirrors heavy weight very well and with my other conclusions.
Bullshit. First Sky complains about how I am attacking people all the time, later he complains how I am not pushing people. It makes no fucking sense.
Also Storr brought up a very good point earlier - this post looks a lot like he has been coached by his teammates. Early in the game he seemed totally clueless about everything and now he acts like he not only knows how to use the database but also my meta. Sure, buddy - if people like marv could not identify my scumplay in heavyweight you can surely see the difference to my townplay.
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On September 30 2014 08:12 Holyflare wrote:
What kind of towny argues with the person that palmar was so towny omg why did you vote him fuck you hf when the alternative was himself? The answer is that no towny does that.
Then we have this which is very true and this ridiculous thing Sky said about how mods tried to keep him from posting his offsite games.
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On September 30 2014 16:11 Fecalfeast wrote:
So, in summary, lynch skydragon?
Exactly.
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On September 30 2014 21:00 SkyDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 16:05 justanothertownie wrote:On September 30 2014 08:35 SkyDragon wrote:JAT is the person that I would first like to look at and the person that right now I believe most likely to be mafia. He has a few mafia traits in a good many of his posts, he discredits people very early on: On September 25 2014 17:24 justanothertownie wrote:I don't like SkyDragon. Constantly claiming he is new BUT has played before. And then he posts things like this: On September 25 2014 08:24 SkyDragon wrote:
I know I'm new around here but what's up with the vote train on Holyflare? If that isn't considered suspicious as fuck, I don't know what is. Would it not be easier to just let the Seer do his/her job instead of lynching random villag.. I mean, er, "Vanillagers"? I don't know how people play on the site you are from but this post is the epitome of awful. Since you claim to actually have experience with this kind of setup please enlighten me how the seer of all people is supposed to do his job day fucking 1. How can he lead us to a scumlynch better than anyone else if all he has at this point is a green check? How is he supposed to do that without claiming anyways? Like what? On September 25 2014 09:42 SkyDragon wrote:On September 25 2014 09:32 Holyflare wrote:On September 25 2014 09:27 SkyDragon wrote:
Actually, all three of them claimed to be Town from the off, and HF decided to throw some names out as well (When barely anyone had posted and probably to deflect suspicion from himself). Just thinking out loud. Riddle me this good sir. What suspicion did I need to deflect and how would I go about doing that with 3 names of people that hadn't even spoken yet? In my experience, bad guys have stated names right at the very start to divert peoples attention elsewhere. I'm not saying that you're bad, I'm just saying that I'm cautious of anyone who throws names around during the early part of the game. What should we do instead of throwing names around? Just chill and do nothing? So again - this guy has played this game already. But he is pretending to know nothing at all about it. What gives? Instead of finding out exactly what was meant by the above comments and trying to work with someone from the very start instead he attacks the position the person is coming from and effectively negates any impact that person can have. This is a sign of mafia because he's not trying to understand but to discredit the person involved in the conversation. On September 25 2014 17:50 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2014 17:45 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 17:29 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2014 08:54 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 08:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 25 2014 08:49 GlowingBear wrote:On September 25 2014 08:46 Hopeless1der wrote:
HF confirmed literate. Sadly that's not enough for me to lynch Haru Hi! I have a feeling that there is a mafia between you and holyflare. Why not both? Why do you think this? I find their buddying style unnatural. Gonna do some quotations to illustrate what I said, brb Since when is buddying early day1 a thing mafia teammates do? On September 25 2014 10:20 Holyflare wrote:
LOL you think I'd go to that much effort to search through a quote to lynchy team mate???? Yes. Since when that is strictly not possible for mafia? Did I say that? But you are threating it like a scumtell and it for sure isn't. On September 25 2014 17:50 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2014 17:48 GlowingBear wrote:
My dribk senses says JAT is possibly mafia But hey, feel free to elaborate on that. More discrediting and not trying to understand just attacking for no reason. On September 25 2014 17:59 justanothertownie wrote:On September 25 2014 17:56 Holyflare wrote:
I dunno i think gb's a bit townier since his onslaught of cases even if they are misplaced. Maybe. Maybe not. On September 26 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:
I still dislike Sky and I think that should be pretty obvious. It's way too early for an opinion on Palmar. On September 26 2014 05:21 justanothertownie wrote:On September 26 2014 05:04 SkyDragon wrote:
I'm not going to argue about this any further.
Let's move on.. Sounds good. You could provide some reads instead. On September 26 2014 15:34 justanothertownie wrote:
Sky at least puts in a good amount of effort now but if you read his posts there are so many contradictions/things that don't make sense. Still don't like him. On September 26 2014 15:36 justanothertownie wrote:
GB seems afraid/really defensive - might be scum. Reminds me of the scum qt from Fanfic where he was really really afraid I would vig him.
I will elaborate on those reads when I have time in a few hours. Would probably still lynch Sky. On September 26 2014 20:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, I also don't get townvibes from Hopeless filter. I guess if GB is town Hopeless looks quite shady but I really have doubts about that. This is mostly from his second and first pages of filter. He tells people to give reads, but never gives any reads himself besides "this person might be scum" or that he doesn't like me because of apparent contradictions that he does not even point out at the time. He says that he pushed me d1, but look at the filter he soft pushed at best. This seems to me like a way mafia would try to push a mislynch so that a townie would take it up and run with it. The way he talks about everyone else he interacts with is mostly painting them in a scummy light. Also I found the mafia database and compared some of JATs games, and I did find him to be pointed in his questions and his driving discussion if you look at him in some of his more recent games like Fanfiction and The Guilty Mafia, he really drove discussion and pushed people he thought were scummy. In the fanfic, he really thought Damdred was scummy after a small slip and he did not let up on him he hard pushed him and the thread to vote for him or tried to always bring it up. He is not doing this here. At best, he is just offhandedly soft pushing lynches right now, "oh I do not like this guy" "oh you might be scummy". Now if you compare it to heavy weight championship, you see the same sort of play, JAT is mafia. And if you look at his later filter, it is more of the same and mirrors heavy weight very well and with my other conclusions. Bullshit. First Sky complains about how I am attacking people all the time, later he complains how I am not pushing people. It makes no fucking sense. Also Storr brought up a very good point earlier - this post looks a lot like he has been coached by his teammates. Early in the game he seemed totally clueless about everything and now he acts like he not only knows how to use the database but also my meta. Sure, buddy - if people like marv could not identify my scumplay in heavyweight you can surely see the difference to my townplay. And again, you side-track the issue with more whining and complaining. I've said this for a while now that I'd be surprised if you're not Mafia along with Storr (His complete attitude reversal when he was called out yesterday is just so damn scummy to me).
I am not sidetracking anything. I just brought up multiple reasons why you are scum without any complaining and you did not adress any of it. The one sidetracking is you.
Of course Storr is quite likely to be mafia. I said that much already today - you probably didn't read the thread because you don't care at all.
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On September 29 2014 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Like Storrs reasoning for pushing Palmar is so wrong it can't be unintentional. And you are calling him town for it.
On September 29 2014 23:28 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 09:17 StorrZerg wrote:On September 28 2014 05:10 Palmar wrote:
Also for what it's worth, I sincerely fucking hope our cop checked Holyflare last night. I am in no mood to argue with him for 15 pages, but there is a chance he is mafia. There's something off about his play here, he's just not.... being smart and analytical enough for my taste. super fake post. On September 28 2014 05:16 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 05:14 batsnacks wrote:
This isn't game related or anything, but was English your first language? Your English is really good. Nope, Icelandic is my first language. it was strange that palmar talked about this. On September 28 2014 07:40 Palmar wrote:
Yeah policy lynching Killing for this. This has to be the 4th or 5tth remark about "policy lynching" I don't think town palmar talks about policy lynches all the time. Most of his pushes day 1, had to do with policy, and today he keeps enforcing policy. Nothing here makes sense. Palmar talked about the language because he was ASKED about it. He always talks about policies and Storr should know that since he was in the last game where this was a discussed issue. Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 09:27 StorrZerg wrote:
Palmar hasn't been active in doing anything. He has a lot of posts, but he is doing nothing to progress the game.
His day 1 push was a feeling. Half of his scum reads are because of policy. haru "gotta be scum because he said he was going to a real life event" "killing gotta be scum cause not claiming asap" etc etc etc.
Palmar was the only one who took the time to analyse multiple people without being poked to do so or them being on the chopping block. If there was someone that did things to progress the game -> Palmar. You don't have to agree with his reads. I didn't either. But saying that Palmar did nothing is just asinine. Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 09:32 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 09:30 Superbia wrote:On September 29 2014 09:24 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 09:22 Superbia wrote:
I don't think Palmar is scum here, should just stick with the vote for today. NO SWITCH NOW I'm not convinced man. The whole icelandic thing and the policy lynches thing are both really weak. His fake post? Makes sense from my perspective. The only thing you have on him is the sudden townread on you, which is in no way alignment indicative enough for me to switch. Like do you have any other substantial reads? How did you even switch to Palmar that quickly? palmar isn't doing anything. Sky could be town and be just bad. super fucking bad. (he still is likely mafia) palmars previous game, he had reads as town. he "did things" i really don't care if he is known for policy, his entire play has been policy over stupid things. He literally doesn't care about EoD Palmar gave reads. Probably more of them than anyone else here.
On September 29 2014 23:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Storr is mafia. Sky too.
On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded. lol wut How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop?
On September 29 2014 23:40 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 23:38 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded. lol wut How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop? Because bats "softed" first If you thought that soft was real you would not have believed that bats had a redcheck on Palmar but on HF. /dunked
On September 30 2014 00:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Nothing storr says makes any sense.
You are not reading the thread at all, do you?
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Because cases are only legit if they are walls of text am I right? If you post several oneliners they areper definition bad because they are one liners. Sick defense bro.
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But fortunately for you I am more sure about Sky.
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You at least brought up a really good point about him even if scum probably has to bus him at this point.
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On September 30 2014 23:44 StorrZerg wrote:
well generally yes people make "cases" longer than 1 liners.
but now this is besides the point ill respond
Good. Feel free to add your current view on the game.
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On September 30 2014 00:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Heading off to work. Will try to come up with new ideas for when I get back.
Hello.
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On September 30 2014 23:58 SkyDragon wrote:
This will probably be the last time I say this but I would ask Town not to vote for me. Pretty much everyone has either voted to lynch me or called me Mafia up to this point. Either I'm part of a dysfunctional Mafia team or I'm not Mafia, which is what I've said about100 times now.
Considering you are still alive I would say your mafia team is far from dysfunctional.
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On October 01 2014 00:09 StorrZerg wrote:comments in blue on things that are possible to have a response form my self Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Like Storrs reasoning for pushing Palmar is so wrong it can't be unintentional. And you are calling him town for it.
why not? my reason ended up being wrong. It wasn't that far fetch from my stand point, i have high expectations from killing .
Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 23:28 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 09:17 StorrZerg wrote:On September 28 2014 05:10 Palmar wrote:
Also for what it's worth, I sincerely fucking hope our cop checked Holyflare last night. I am in no mood to argue with him for 15 pages, but there is a chance he is mafia. There's something off about his play here, he's just not.... being smart and analytical enough for my taste. super fake post. On September 28 2014 05:16 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 05:14 batsnacks wrote:
This isn't game related or anything, but was English your first language? Your English is really good. Nope, Icelandic is my first language. it was strange that palmar talked about this. On September 28 2014 07:40 Palmar wrote:
Yeah policy lynching Killing for this. This has to be the 4th or 5tth remark about "policy lynching" I don't think town palmar talks about policy lynches all the time. Most of his pushes day 1, had to do with policy, and today he keeps enforcing policy. Nothing here makes sense. Palmar talked about the language because he was ASKED about it. He always talks about policies and Storr should know that since he was in the last game where this was a discussed issue. yeah, so you bring up the game where i was mafia, and clearly not giving a rats ass what was going on. I do remember him being bitched at for not doing more policy stuff. On September 29 2014 09:27 StorrZerg wrote:
Palmar hasn't been active in doing anything. He has a lot of posts, but he is doing nothing to progress the game.
His day 1 push was a feeling. Half of his scum reads are because of policy. haru "gotta be scum because he said he was going to a real life event" "killing gotta be scum cause not claiming asap" etc etc etc.
Palmar was the only one who took the time to analyse multiple people without being poked to do so or them being on the chopping block. If there was someone that did things to progress the game -> Palmar. You don't have to agree with his reads. I didn't either. But saying that Palmar did nothing is just asinine. ok. thats after the fact. its all ready been stated that my push on palmar was super trumped up, because of the scenario that was flying in my head. i didnt see you defending palmar near that point. in fact you seem to be very much ok with the whole ordeal thats going on.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467273-2p2-vanilla-werewolf-13er?page=83#1648
i mean you obviously feel very strongly about this point, i just can't believe you would be waiting to bring it up. hell i tried pushing you, so you had to be paying attention, you could have been fighting with what i was doing, yet you sat back and even provoked the situation with that post. On September 29 2014 09:32 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 09:30 Superbia wrote:On September 29 2014 09:24 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 09:22 Superbia wrote:
I don't think Palmar is scum here, should just stick with the vote for today. NO SWITCH NOW I'm not convinced man. The whole icelandic thing and the policy lynches thing are both really weak. His fake post? Makes sense from my perspective. The only thing you have on him is the sudden townread on you, which is in no way alignment indicative enough for me to switch. Like do you have any other substantial reads? How did you even switch to Palmar that quickly? palmar isn't doing anything. Sky could be town and be just bad. super fucking bad. (he still is likely mafia) palmars previous game, he had reads as town. he "did things" i really don't care if he is known for policy, his entire play has been policy over stupid things. He literally doesn't care about EoD Palmar gave reads. Probably more of them than anyone else here. Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded. lol wut How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop? Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 23:40 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:38 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded. lol wut How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop? Because bats "softed" first If you thought that soft was real you would not have believed that bats had a redcheck on Palmar but on HF. /dunked when i came in game, bats wasn't pushing HF, he was pushing palmar. didnt matter about the early potential fake red on hf, or real red on hf. bats was pushing palmar.
Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 00:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Nothing storr says makes any sense. super glad this means anything.
well i can't respond to some of this since they are not actual accusations, or doesn't actually lead to anything, or there is no real body in the post.
so if they are random comments like "storr is bad" then my response is "ok i guess lol?"
That's fair enough. I am not expecting you to answer those things.
But I am not happy with the things you can and did answer like the softing thing. People thought batsnacks softed having a redcheck on HF. Are you telling me you didn't know that and instead just believed people who said he is softing? And still you pushed hard for Palmars lynch without even doublechecking that? It was absolutely obvious for anyone reading the thread that batsnacks did not have a redcheck on Palmar EVEN IF Killing wasn't the cop which you claim to have thought since day1. Your story just doesn't add up at all.
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And you can bet your ass I would have done something against that lynch had I not fallen asleep.
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On October 01 2014 00:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 23:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 30 2014 00:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Heading off to work. Will try to come up with new ideas for when I get back. Hello. That's a blatant misrepresentation of my filter if I ever saw one.
Uhm, what?
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On October 01 2014 00:10 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 23:45 justanothertownie wrote:On September 30 2014 23:44 StorrZerg wrote:
well generally yes people make "cases" longer than 1 liners.
but now this is besides the point ill respond Good. Feel free to add your current view on the game. have been. care to comment on my case on haru
Haru is definitely not in my townlist. Let me reread that.
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On October 01 2014 00:22 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 00:17 justanothertownie wrote:
And you can bet your ass I would have done something against that lynch had I not fallen asleep. Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 08:58 justanothertownie wrote:
... Palmar knows very well that noone will listen to him and is still throwing his vote on a guy that isn't being lynched. in fact you had been around when bats was trying to use hostile voting to make you switch so this is a straight up lie lol
No, it is not. After this post I made a few more pushing Sky and fell asleep very soon when Palmar still wasn't in any real danger.
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On October 01 2014 00:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 00:18 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 00:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 30 2014 23:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 30 2014 00:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Heading off to work. Will try to come up with new ideas for when I get back. Hello. That's a blatant misrepresentation of my filter if I ever saw one. Uhm, what? Guess my stuff aimed at HF/FF just disappeared without me knowing.
You asked each of them a question or 2 and that was basically it. Next to no input from yourself.
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On October 01 2014 00:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2014 12:08 HaruRH wrote:On September 30 2014 11:24 Holyflare wrote:
Haru hasn't been on any wagons on any lynch and while making a bit of sense day 1, completely devolved day 3 and is doing nothing today (even posted wrong info about killing) I'm not interested to tell you why, and i am asked not to /replace, so here i am again. Who asked him not to replace, btw?
The hosts I guess. If what he says is true. Nothing we could know or check in any way.
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For the future - Storr, please refrain from adding coloured stuff in quotes. I know managing multiple quotes is annoying but it is even more annoying to read or answer to your cases this way.
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On October 01 2014 00:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 00:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 01 2014 00:18 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 00:05 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On September 30 2014 23:53 justanothertownie wrote:On September 30 2014 00:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Heading off to work. Will try to come up with new ideas for when I get back. Hello. That's a blatant misrepresentation of my filter if I ever saw one. Uhm, what? Guess my stuff aimed at HF/FF just disappeared without me knowing. You asked each of them a question or 2 and that was basically it. Next to no input from yourself. No, I had an issue with what FF was doing around EoD and Holyflare's switch was weird. Holyflare asked for meta and then switched, despite the meta not being useful in any way. So I didn't know why he switched. I was under the impression that asking questions and whatnot was the basis of scumhunting.
I am not even denying that. What I am saying is that you did not really show the conclusions you got.
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On October 01 2014 00:37 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 00:09 StorrZerg wrote:comments in blue on things that are possible to have a response form my self On September 29 2014 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Like Storrs reasoning for pushing Palmar is so wrong it can't be unintentional. And you are calling him town for it.
why not? my reason ended up being wrong. It wasn't that far fetch from my stand point, i have high expectations from killing .
On September 29 2014 23:28 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 09:17 StorrZerg wrote:On September 28 2014 05:10 Palmar wrote:
Also for what it's worth, I sincerely fucking hope our cop checked Holyflare last night. I am in no mood to argue with him for 15 pages, but there is a chance he is mafia. There's something off about his play here, he's just not.... being smart and analytical enough for my taste. super fake post. On September 28 2014 05:16 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 05:14 batsnacks wrote:
This isn't game related or anything, but was English your first language? Your English is really good. Nope, Icelandic is my first language. it was strange that palmar talked about this. On September 28 2014 07:40 Palmar wrote:
Yeah policy lynching Killing for this. This has to be the 4th or 5tth remark about "policy lynching" I don't think town palmar talks about policy lynches all the time. Most of his pushes day 1, had to do with policy, and today he keeps enforcing policy. Nothing here makes sense. Palmar talked about the language because he was ASKED about it. He always talks about policies and Storr should know that since he was in the last game where this was a discussed issue. yeah, so you bring up the game where i was mafia, and clearly not giving a rats ass what was going on. I do remember him being bitched at for not doing more policy stuff. On September 29 2014 09:27 StorrZerg wrote:
Palmar hasn't been active in doing anything. He has a lot of posts, but he is doing nothing to progress the game.
His day 1 push was a feeling. Half of his scum reads are because of policy. haru "gotta be scum because he said he was going to a real life event" "killing gotta be scum cause not claiming asap" etc etc etc.
Palmar was the only one who took the time to analyse multiple people without being poked to do so or them being on the chopping block. If there was someone that did things to progress the game -> Palmar. You don't have to agree with his reads. I didn't either. But saying that Palmar did nothing is just asinine. ok. thats after the fact. its all ready been stated that my push on palmar was super trumped up, because of the scenario that was flying in my head. i didnt see you defending palmar near that point. in fact you seem to be very much ok with the whole ordeal thats going on.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467273-2p2-vanilla-werewolf-13er?page=83#1648
i mean you obviously feel very strongly about this point, i just can't believe you would be waiting to bring it up. hell i tried pushing you, so you had to be paying attention, you could have been fighting with what i was doing, yet you sat back and even provoked the situation with that post. On September 29 2014 09:32 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 09:30 Superbia wrote:On September 29 2014 09:24 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 09:22 Superbia wrote:
I don't think Palmar is scum here, should just stick with the vote for today. NO SWITCH NOW I'm not convinced man. The whole icelandic thing and the policy lynches thing are both really weak. His fake post? Makes sense from my perspective. The only thing you have on him is the sudden townread on you, which is in no way alignment indicative enough for me to switch. Like do you have any other substantial reads? How did you even switch to Palmar that quickly? palmar isn't doing anything. Sky could be town and be just bad. super fucking bad. (he still is likely mafia) palmars previous game, he had reads as town. he "did things" i really don't care if he is known for policy, his entire play has been policy over stupid things. He literally doesn't care about EoD Palmar gave reads. Probably more of them than anyone else here. On September 29 2014 23:29 justanothertownie wrote:
Storr is mafia. Sky too. On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded. lol wut How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop? On September 29 2014 23:40 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:38 StorrZerg wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 23:34 StorrZerg wrote:
I can't believe he was actually playing this bad. I thought bats was actually the cop with red on palmar. Killing was faking a green on the real cop to give bats another day. Nope...
I feel so retarded. lol wut How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop? Because bats "softed" first If you thought that soft was real you would not have believed that bats had a redcheck on Palmar but on HF. /dunked when i came in game, bats wasn't pushing HF, he was pushing palmar. didnt matter about the early potential fake red on hf, or real red on hf. bats was pushing palmar.
On September 30 2014 00:04 justanothertownie wrote:
Nothing storr says makes any sense. super glad this means anything.
well i can't respond to some of this since they are not actual accusations, or doesn't actually lead to anything, or there is no real body in the post.
so if they are random comments like "storr is bad" then my response is "ok i guess lol?"
That's fair enough. I am not expecting you to answer those things. But I am not happy with the things you can and did answer like the softing thing. People thought batsnacks softed having a redcheck on HF. Are you telling me you didn't know that and instead just believed people who said he is softing? And still you pushed hard for Palmars lynch without even doublechecking that? It was absolutely obvious for anyone reading the thread that batsnacks did not have a redcheck on Palmar EVEN IF Killing wasn't the cop which you claim to have thought since day1. Your story just doesn't add up at all. Here is the deal. Killing play day 1. cop play. He was active enough to seem town, but very inactive play. Gave a town list, didn't care to elaborate on his reads that much, just a no care attitude. Day 2, he claims. Now his claim makes sense from my stand point, yet what is weird is how he claimed. He claimed with a dead check and an alive green on someone who potentially softed cop. This is where i was rethinking killing as cop. He was playing so bad, and insulting so much, and his checks didn't make that much sense for why he outed. Hence, i figured the only he was making this dumbshit play was because he wasn't actually the cop. So i moved to batsnacks. He has to be the cop, killing is covering him, and he probably has a red check which is why he is pushing palmar for little reason. He is super hostile to anyone, he is throwing his confirmed self all over the place with threats. This play seemed to be like someone who had more information than i did. Hence why things "fell in line" as to why he could be cop. As for holyflare and bats. what does it matter. If bats really had a check on holy, he would have pushed it. EoD he wasn't pushing holy, he was pushing palmar. As for the double check question. people bashed on bats for softing cop. he denied it. As for being obvious, it isn't that obvious to me. Most of you don't have that many games with joey, or know how he plays roles. Bats was part of the equation not the whole thing. So yes, my story does add up. Because if killing wasn't the cop, and was covering bats. Bats would be pushing his read check EoD. Doing what ever he could to get it done.
Meeeeeeh... maybe. I somehow have doubts that mafia would invent a story that is so unbelievable.
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On September 30 2014 05:47 StorrZerg wrote:comments in blue Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:On September 27 2014 09:56 Holyflare wrote:
FecalFeast: Superbia
Skydragon:: Killing, StorrZerg, Hopeless1der
Hopeless1der:: Palmar, Holyflare, batsnacks, skydragon, fecalfeast, justanothertownie. ObiWanShinobi
superbia:: HaruRH
Killing:: Glowingbear
Alright, this vote count is more accurate than yamato's final vote count. I am going to make some assumptions here: 1) You just have to accept that I am town. 2) Almost all wolf were on hopeless. It is NOT possible that all the wolf were superbia,killing storrZerg. However, there certainly is 1 or 2 wolf amongst these 3. States most wolves would be on hopeless, yet thinks a possible 2 within 3 people. feels odd to think this way from a town perspective. 2 wolfies between: Palmar, Holyflare, batsnacks, skydragon, fecalfeast, justanothertownie. 1 wolf between: Killing, storrZerg, superbia. We now have it restated that we only have 1 wolf now between these 3. When earlier it could have been 2. I think this comes from a mafia perspective, trying to force out what should be correct, while avoiding "reading" people. I distributed my wolfreads as such because 1) mafia always try to vote on the largest wagon to not feel left out. 2)at least/most 1 mafia would split off and vote some random player. I am very certain that glowingbear was killed because he was right. There was no way they killed him for the lulz when there is HF,palmar, jat etc as town. He is also not overwhelmingly town. In fact, he smelt scum to me for a while. The assurance that GB was right. Yet only talking about the mafia reads on gb. Not the town reads. This seems like forced information about the dead. Directed, specific. I find it interesting that he lists off townies as HF palmar jat as "town"what chance did any of these 3 have to die in the night for n1? holy pushed a wrong lynch very hard, palmar we now know is town, jat wasn't super active, nor did he push a correct direction. So why did any of these 3 mean anything more than GB from haru's perspective. His wolf reads were: killing, storrzerg, batsnacksThis is very interesting, i think we now know why GB was killed. All his mafia reads are wrong. Killing was cop, bats has been green checked, and i'm town. GB was clearly not on the right track, he was not killed because of how well he was scum hunting. He was killed for how off track he was, and how town he looked. I am going to say that i too think killing was wolf. Not superbia. I am also going to say that HF is maybe town. But i still need to see what he is going to do. Therefore, my lynchlist for d2 is(in order of scumminess): Killing batsnacks skydragon I'm really not sure why haru has been leaving me out so much. Have i been avoiding haru? yes, defending on policy sure. logically i should be in here. Even on day 3, haru keeps "forgetting about me" I am still unsure of skydragon and less unsure of batsnacks, but i am quite sure of killing. Lets lynch him. It will reveal tons of info too even if he flip town. What would we have learned at this point if he flips town? At this point in time, he had been fairly low key, had pointed out quite a few town reads, had a few mafia reads. As a town, if i had stated something like this, wouldn't it also be important to let others know what we would learn? there is no follow up to this, even though he wasn't lynched, he did die in the night, he did have reads, yet haru doesn't follow up or give input to what we should have learned. as soon as we have claim from Killing, haru falls off terribly on day 2. checks out of the game. all motivation stops to lynch killing, and provides no input as to how the day should go.
I guess I can see how Haru looks scummy from your perspective if you are town. But one thing here really stands out to me: How do you know I wasn't pushing in a correct direction? I was pushing Skydragon for the majority of day1.
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On October 01 2014 00:43 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 00:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 00:22 StorrZerg wrote:On October 01 2014 00:17 justanothertownie wrote:
And you can bet your ass I would have done something against that lynch had I not fallen asleep. On September 29 2014 08:58 justanothertownie wrote:
... Palmar knows very well that noone will listen to him and is still throwing his vote on a guy that isn't being lynched. in fact you had been around when bats was trying to use hostile voting to make you switch so this is a straight up lie lol No, it is not. After this post I made a few more pushing Sky and fell asleep very soon when Palmar still wasn't in any real danger. whats it matter if plamar is in danger when you sleep. i was "blatantly stating wrong things" from your view point. if you are town, how could you let this stand?
Because I was asleep?! Look at when I posted my last post. That's pretty much when I stopped being awake.
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The best point of your Haru case is the GB stuff. I think he is the only person in the game who tried to make an argument of the GB kill (?) which is kinda scummy.
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On October 01 2014 00:50 StorrZerg wrote:
because of where your vote is at the end
Yeah, but that person was dead n1. It would only be logical for mafia to assume that I would be pushing my other reads from there on.
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On October 01 2014 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
Yamato asked for a replacement in thread earlier.
Do you have anything to say that is game relevant?
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Sick of being ninjaed by you. Seriously.
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On October 01 2014 00:57 Holyflare wrote:
I thought fecals actions were actually towny. No idea why you don't
I agree. He is one of my few townreads.
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On October 01 2014 01:02 Holyflare wrote:
Superbia was a little weird at deadline. Did obi question him?
Why don't you check that yourself?
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On October 01 2014 02:57 Holyflare wrote:
No i couldn't be bothered to do it on my phone so i gave up
You don't seem very interested in this game in general today.
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On October 01 2014 02:32 Superbia wrote:
All right I'm here. Anyone available to talk about my one of my proposed lynches for today?
Who are your proposed lynches again and why?
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On October 01 2014 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to lynch sky, get this shit over with and learn a lot from his flip. Finally. I don't really want to lynch anyone else even if i think they have a good chance of being mafia.
Fair enough I guess.
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Ah, I remember. Do you have any reasons to suspect HF besides the Palmar hammer?
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What's your opinion on Haru?
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On October 01 2014 03:09 Holyflare wrote:
I really haven't done almost anything since day 1
Yes you did. Day2 at least. Day3 you did basically nothing.
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On October 01 2014 03:11 Holyflare wrote:
Don't particularly remember doing anything useful yesterday
You argued against the Palmar lynch/for a Skydragon lynch pretty adamantly and then still killed Palmar.
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On October 01 2014 03:13 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 03:10 justanothertownie wrote:
What's your opinion on Haru? Very possibly scum, but such a question mark that I don't want to risk a lynch on her. I've gone over her in my post.
wat
When do you propose that we deal with question marks if not today?
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On October 01 2014 03:16 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 03:12 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 03:11 Holyflare wrote:
Don't particularly remember doing anything useful yesterday You argued against the Palmar lynch/for a Skydragon lynch pretty adamantly and then still killed Palmar. Haha yeh that was pretty funny i guess
Yeah, couldn't stop laughing when I read it...
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Tempted to kill Haru solely for not changing his vote after learning that I wasn't redchecked.
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On October 01 2014 03:38 Superbia wrote:
JAT have you read my post?
Which one?
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Yes, I did. I thought that would be obvious since I asked you about further reasoning for your HF read.
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On October 01 2014 03:52 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 03:43 justanothertownie wrote:Yes, I did. I thought that would be obvious since I asked you about further reasoning for your HF read. All right. You have nothing more to add? What do you think about the logic I proposed?
No. Nothing more to add.
I am still not sure about storrzerg but it is possible that you are right on him. You did not come to a conclusion about Obi and HF is just a big question mark to me.
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On October 01 2014 04:05 Holyflare wrote:
Haru has never been on a single wagon that we've had the entire game and always has a throwaway vote. Although, if sky flips mafia it's really odd that haru just didn't want free credit then especially as nobody but me proposed a counter wagon day 1 (although prob just to avpod bus)
Yeah, pretty awful.
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No idea. His read last game was almost scary.
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On October 01 2014 04:35 batsnacks wrote:
Who are you guys voting tomorrow?
How would we know that right now...
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Well we will be looking on the people that saved him frim being lynched repeatedly, Like HF for example.
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On October 01 2014 04:45 Holyflare wrote:No way is it me! :o tried to save palmar in order to lynch sky! Not my fault they yelled and i gave in  (maybe a little bit)
Yeah, because you are the person to give in to this shit despite disagreeing with it. Like come on man.
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On October 01 2014 04:53 batsnacks wrote:
HF has said multiple times he agreed palmar was scummy, he just thought sky was the better lynch.
So what?
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Possible that HF was in full bussing mode and in the end couldn't resist the opportunity to lynch Palmar instead.
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On October 01 2014 05:01 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 04:57 justanothertownie wrote:
Possible that HF was in full bussing mode and in the end couldn't resist the opportunity to lynch Palmar instead. Even if they're both town I think scum!hf still might not be able to resist a palmar lynch over sky. Not like sky was getting any better today.
Yeah. Maybe.
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Possibly. If sky really flips town somehow I will have to reevaluate everything basically.
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I won't decide who I lynch tomorrow without judging peoples play tomorrow/their reaction to whatever Sky may flip.
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That's not that hard to understand I think?
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I mean HF has a point - if Sky is town then Haru looks really awful for example.
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On October 01 2014 05:23 batsnacks wrote:
Are you really going to judge people for how they choose to type "damn sky was town fuck" or "damn he really was mafia were all dumb"
I certainly won't ignore it. But what is very important is what peoples stance on the game is when Sky is out of the game and they actually have to analyse different players.
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On October 01 2014 05:25 Fecalfeast wrote:
You guys are assuming there wont be some ridiculous counter wagon by eod?
I'm just waiting to see who starts it.
I don't know if I manage to stay up until deadline today but if some idiots pull this lynch of Sky AGAIN then I will go on a rampage tomorrow. Mark my words.
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On October 01 2014 05:27 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 05:23 batsnacks wrote:
Are you really going to judge people for how they choose to type "damn sky was town fuck" or "damn he really was mafia were all dumb" I certainly won't ignore it. But what is very important is what peoples stance on the game is when Sky is out of the game and they actually have to analyse different players. Something they could be doing NOW instead of stalling like mafia wants to do. Like you're doing.
I am pretty much the only one discussing other players today. Wtf man?
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If you want to accuse someone of stalling then that is HF.
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On October 01 2014 05:29 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 05:28 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 05:27 batsnacks wrote:On October 01 2014 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 05:23 batsnacks wrote:
Are you really going to judge people for how they choose to type "damn sky was town fuck" or "damn he really was mafia were all dumb" I certainly won't ignore it. But what is very important is what peoples stance on the game is when Sky is out of the game and they actually have to analyse different players. Something they could be doing NOW instead of stalling like mafia wants to do. Like you're doing. I am pretty much the only one discussing other players today. Wtf man? Now you're offended?
Yes, I kinda am.
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On October 01 2014 05:30 batsnacks wrote:
I realize HF is stalling. You can use that tomorrow if you try and lynch him.
I could but I am not even sure if I really think it is that alignment indicative.
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On October 01 2014 05:55 Holyflare wrote:
People agreeing with everything i say but then still scum reading me. Hilarious
Maybe if you wouldn't bus your teammates all the time people wouldn't do that.
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On October 01 2014 06:13 SkyDragon wrote:
I really want to see all your reactions. This is gonna be funny because you Townies are going to see just how useless you are.
How very towny of you.
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On October 01 2014 06:20 StorrZerg wrote:
i think it also makes his palmar switch look very genuine.
Huh? Why?
If HF is scum and Sky town then keeping Sky around fits his agenda perfectly because he keeps the likely mislynch Sky alive while killing the much better and more dangerous player in Palmar who he probably won't get lynched later on.
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On October 01 2014 06:33 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 06:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 06:13 SkyDragon wrote:
I really want to see all your reactions. This is gonna be funny because you Townies are going to see just how useless you are. How very towny of you. I like the part where he calls us "Townies." LOL
Indeed.
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On October 01 2014 06:34 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 06:20 StorrZerg wrote:
i think it also makes his palmar switch look very genuine. Huh? Why? If HF is scum and Sky town then keeping Sky around fits his agenda perfectly because he keeps the likely mislynch Sky alive while killing the much better and more dangerous player in Palmar who he probably won't get lynched later on. not really. i don't see him contradicting himself as mafia a min before the lynch.
Why not? He does shit like that all the time.
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On October 01 2014 06:39 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 06:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 06:34 StorrZerg wrote:On October 01 2014 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 06:20 StorrZerg wrote:
i think it also makes his palmar switch look very genuine. Huh? Why? If HF is scum and Sky town then keeping Sky around fits his agenda perfectly because he keeps the likely mislynch Sky alive while killing the much better and more dangerous player in Palmar who he probably won't get lynched later on. not really. i don't see him contradicting himself as mafia a min before the lynch. Why not? He does shit like that all the time. ok. you are welcome to prove that and call my read bad then.
I won't search through his scum filters for that but let me assure you that HF did the weirdest things as scum because he knows that people will townread him for or despite it. An example would be Order mafia when we were lynching his scumbuddy day1 and he pushed an alternative wagon HARDCORE. That wagon was on another one of his buddies.
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On October 01 2014 06:42 SkyDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 06:20 StorrZerg wrote:
if sky flips town, i think it makes hf look really good.
that be almost 2x now he has "avoided sky to push someone he thought was scum.
incorrectly, but i think it makes his motivations look better.
i think it also makes his palmar switch look very genuine. That is a stupid analysis. Mafia doesn't care who they lynch as long as it's not one of their own. Nothing will be found out after d3 from my lynching except that Town sucks for lynching 3 Townies in a row. Day 4 will start with 4 Villagers and 3 Mafia. If you're Town, HF and JAT, God help you.
How about you help us if you are town? No, you just cry and sob in your corner. You aren't town.
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On October 01 2014 06:48 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 06:44 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 06:39 StorrZerg wrote:On October 01 2014 06:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 06:34 StorrZerg wrote:On October 01 2014 06:32 justanothertownie wrote:On October 01 2014 06:20 StorrZerg wrote:
i think it also makes his palmar switch look very genuine. Huh? Why? If HF is scum and Sky town then keeping Sky around fits his agenda perfectly because he keeps the likely mislynch Sky alive while killing the much better and more dangerous player in Palmar who he probably won't get lynched later on. not really. i don't see him contradicting himself as mafia a min before the lynch. Why not? He does shit like that all the time. ok. you are welcome to prove that and call my read bad then. I won't search through his scum filters for that but let me assure you that HF did the weirdest things as scum because he knows that people will townread him for or despite it. An example would be Order mafia when we were lynching his scumbuddy day1 and he pushed an alternative wagon HARDCORE. That wagon was on another one of his buddies. Was he saving a mafia power role and bussing a goon?The case you bring up is 2 scum wagons. We might be looking at 2 town wagons day 1, and 2 town wagons day 2
The other way round. He was pushing the janitor over a goon. And I didn't bring that up to say it's the same here but just to show you that HF has NO problem with doing weird shit as mafia.
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On October 01 2014 06:50 SkyDragon wrote:
Guys, just look at what I wrote when making a case for JAT being Scum and the games I pointed out after I'm lynched. Lynch him tomorrow and then go after the useless Obj, Storr and Superbia .
Die, scum.
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On October 01 2014 06:55 SkyDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 06:44 batsnacks wrote:On October 01 2014 06:42 SkyDragon wrote:On October 01 2014 06:20 StorrZerg wrote:
if sky flips town, i think it makes hf look really good.
that be almost 2x now he has "avoided sky to push someone he thought was scum.
incorrectly, but i think it makes his motivations look better.
i think it also makes his palmar switch look very genuine. That is a stupid analysis. Mafia doesn't care who they lynch as long as it's not one of their own. Nothing will be found out after d3 from my lynching except that Town sucks for lynching 3 Townies in a row. Day 4 will start with 4 Villagers and 3 Mafia. If you're Town, HF and JAT, God help you. What about me? Is god gonna help me too or...? Or did you not bother to mention me since everyone already knows my alignment. Killing being Seer makes you 100% Town in my eyes. I may have forgotten to say that earlier.
A shocking revelation.
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On October 01 2014 08:19 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 08:17 batsnacks wrote:On October 01 2014 08:16 Superbia wrote:
Or at least useful to town? HANDLE IT Who are you voting tomorrow. I'll do like you like I did everyone else. Who you lynch if sky is town? Who you lynch if sky is mafia? I won't be here to ride your ass tomorrow you best be thankful if you're town. 1- HF or Obi. 2- Haru.
Does 1 equal townSky?
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On October 01 2014 08:20 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 08:19 Superbia wrote:On October 01 2014 08:17 batsnacks wrote:On October 01 2014 08:16 Superbia wrote:
Or at least useful to town? HANDLE IT Who are you voting tomorrow. I'll do like you like I did everyone else. Who you lynch if sky is town? Who you lynch if sky is mafia? I won't be here to ride your ass tomorrow you best be thankful if you're town. 1- HF or Obi. 2- Haru. Is 1 if sky is town and 2 if sky is mafia? Because that seems ass backward if so.
Yeah.
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Why would you lynch HF or Obi if SKy flips town? Oo
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Ok, you have to explain this to me. Why would you lynch Haru only in the case that Sky is scum? Haru wasted his vote the whole game which does not make sense if he is Skys buddy but makes a lot of sense if he is scum and Sky town.
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Same with the other scenario - don't you think the voteswitch to Palmar is at least a little less scummy if Sky is town? Not it wouldn't make any sense but I don't get why you want to vote the main actors only in the case that Sky is town.
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On October 01 2014 08:28 Superbia wrote:
tl;dr:
Sky is mafia - probably 1 mafia on Palmar yesterday. Less high chance of hitting there. We also get an extra day, we can use this to clean up Haru, who is a question mark and probably scum.
Sky is town - probably 2 mafia on Palmar yesterday. Hence we have a high chance of hitting on either one of those targets.
Ok, the Haru explanation actually makes sense. But I still don't get why you think there are more scum on Palmar if Sky is town.
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On October 01 2014 08:30 Holyflare wrote:
"if sky flips town mafia pushed palmar"
"if sky flips mafia more mafia pushed palmar"
"if sky flips mafia, lynch haru! "
????????
I think he is actually saying that "if sky flips town more mafia pushed palmar" for whatever reason.
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On October 01 2014 08:38 Holyflare wrote:
Oh nvm about the batsnacks thing. Rest still stands
I was really confused there for a second.
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On October 01 2014 08:49 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 08:43 SkyDragon wrote:On October 01 2014 06:48 batsnacks wrote:
FF is mafia. Calling it. I can just imagine him in his shop right now with a PC behind the counter, feverishly hammering on f5, waiting for someone, anyone, to say his name. Notice how he had to say it one more time, 2 hours later before I appeared? Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 08:37 batsnacks wrote:
FecalFeast is mafia. Just saying. Again. I must be really stupid for posting before I read. Next time I'll check if I'm walking into some retarded trap...
lol
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On October 01 2014 08:51 SkyDragon wrote:
You guys keep talking as if my flip is some grand mystery or something. It'll be Town, lol. Just as I've been saying all along.
You wasted all that time for nothing when you could've been analyzing much more scummier people.
If you are town it is entirely your fault that you get lynched. YOU wasted all that time doing fuck all. There is no scummier person than you.
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On October 01 2014 08:58 Fecalfeast wrote:at least he's putting his vote where his mouth is
How honorable of him.
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On October 01 2014 09:00 Holyflare wrote:
at least haru is on a counter wagon now
rofl
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On October 01 2014 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
super paranoid that this guy flips town and haru then also flips town
Is this the moment you are starting the counter push?
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On October 01 2014 09:11 SkyDragon wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 09:03 batsnacks wrote:On October 01 2014 09:03 SkyDragon wrote:On October 01 2014 09:00 batsnacks wrote:On October 01 2014 08:56 SkyDragon wrote:
Go away, JAT. Some of you have a real strange way of reading people so instantly latched onto me as if I'm doing something shady from the very start when I didn't. And how can I do anything when I've been defending myself from the start? I said some things about nearly everybody and they were all dismissed because some people just really wanted to lynch me. Well, those people are going to look really stupid in an hour. If you're town you're still effectively a zero being factored into the town equation. You're nothing. Stop talking about yourself if you're town. You are getting lynched today. If you are town the best thing you can do is post reads, and there's plenty for you to comment on that you haven't commented on already. And that's why Town is losing. Townies are expendable in this game. No, they aren't. That's why if you are town you're killing us. Nah mate, I'm not killing anyone. When you say silly things like "Lynch Palmar", that kills the Town. When you insist that someone is Mafia, even though he has said from d1 that he isn't, that kills the Town. If Town loses, it's on Bats, FF, HF, JAT, Storr, Obi and Superbia (Unless you're Mafia, in which case I applaud your tactics in manipulating the feeble-minded sheep).
Yeah, because only townies say they aren't mafia.
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On October 01 2014 09:23 Holyflare wrote:
kinda want to lynch haru into skydragon :D:D:D:D:D:D
:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
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On October 01 2014 09:22 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 09:19 Holyflare wrote:
no way i'd try and force everyone to come back to mafia skydragon if i was mafia only to switch to palmar right at the last second actually i probably would scratch that, but w/e
I would definitely scratch that.
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On October 01 2014 09:30 Fecalfeast wrote:
I hope you'll forgive me for not following another last-minute counter wagon off skydragon, HF.
You better don't.
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On October 01 2014 09:48 Fecalfeast wrote:
Sorry, I don't get your logic. What does haru's flip say about sky that saves him from the chopping block tomorrow and why wont it be an argument all day about sky regardless of what haru flips.
This.
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Sorry, Sky. I don't regret lynching him but I tunneled too hard.I shouldn't have attacked him this way.
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On October 02 2014 00:43 batsnacks wrote:
Read end of day 2. He was one of the Palmar-switchers. Actually I think he was the first to switch.
So?
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Hi VE btw. I hope you have the time to do a lot today if you are town because your slot looks awfully scummy.
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On October 02 2014 00:51 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Hi VE btw. I hope you have the time to do a lot today if you are town because your slot looks awfully scummy. Frankly I replaced in knowing I'd probably be lynched. I'll do exactly as much as I need to to try and find mafia - I'm not expending extra effort to make sure you guys don't mislynch me. I can't even do that when I've been in a game THE WHOLE TIME, and there's no way for me to explain posts my predecessor made, so all my energy is going into finding mafia and zero into defending myself. Attention scum: VE is the easiest mislynch ever this game, and you can probably hide on his wagon. Just FYI.
No problem. Don't even bother with Harus stuff and just post your own thoughts. It would also be appreciated if you refrained from martyring (if you are town).
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On October 02 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
Scummy or not don't lynch VE today.
Why?
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On October 02 2014 00:58 StorrZerg wrote:
Big support of lynch Haru dies in night. Holy was coming around on myself.
And now I'm confirmed cause of d2 eod.
D2 eod does not confirm anyone.
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On October 02 2014 00:59 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay so Batsnacks is our only confirmed town and Joey was trolling about Red check is that correct?
Correct. Joey had a greencheck on hopeless N0 (he was lynched day1) and a greencheck on batsnacks N1.
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On October 02 2014 01:06 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
Scummy or not don't lynch VE today. Why? Because it's lylo, we haven't lynched scum, and VE just replaced someone who was afk all game
Yeah, so we lynch the scummiest dude today. If that should be VE we lynch him. He has a whole day to play.
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We aren't not lynching the slot that avoided all main wagons and did nothing all game just because someone replaced in in LYLO. We cannot afford to ignore VE because you are feeling polite.
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On October 02 2014 01:10 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 01:06 batsnacks wrote:On October 02 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
Scummy or not don't lynch VE today. Why? Because it's lylo, we haven't lynched scum, and VE just replaced someone who was afk all game Doesn't mean we can't judge him off his reads today Palmar was a 100% town forced kill. The only possible mafia would be obi. If i remove him as a suspect for today. Then I can look at the other 4. 50% with darts. Maybe 75%. I'm not eliminating ve as an option today because he was replaced. @bats you are alive because they felt an unconfirmed hf was more dangerous than you.
I really don't get why you would remove Obi as a suspect. It does not make any sense.
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On October 02 2014 01:22 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 01:10 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 01:06 batsnacks wrote:On October 02 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 00:52 batsnacks wrote:
Scummy or not don't lynch VE today. Why? Because it's lylo, we haven't lynched scum, and VE just replaced someone who was afk all game Doesn't mean we can't judge him off his reads today Palmar was a 100% town forced kill. The only possible mafia would be obi. If i remove him as a suspect for today. Then I can look at the other 4. 50% with darts. Maybe 75%. I'm not eliminating ve as an option today because he was replaced. @bats you are alive because they felt an unconfirmed hf was more dangerous than you. I really don't get why you would remove Obi as a suspect. It does not make any sense. Because 3/4 of the push on palmar was dumb town. Obi could be dumb town as well. He could be mafia.I'd rather look at the other 4 remove the most Town person and focus my day like that. I know that lynch was pushed by stupid town of myself and bats. Hf hammered. Mafia are way more likely to avoid that situation of town town lynching. And again numbers I know for a fact there a minimum of 2 mafia within ve, ff, superbia, jat. Possibly 3. So yeah I'm a fuck off obi for the most part. At least today
The bolded is the important part. There is no reason for you to assume that Obi is town and to remove him from your suspect list. Literally zero reason.
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On October 02 2014 01:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I can't quote what Jat is saying.
What I think of the Palmar lynch is that I thought he was mafia. That's it. Town voted on him so unless you think that that lynch was purely scum motivated then I'd say the people coasting on the Sd wagon for two whole days are more suspicious.
So what if town voted for him? Town also voted for skydragon but that doesn't mean there can't be scum on the wagon. There is a huge mafia incentive to lynch Palmar over Sky that day and if Storr and you are giving each other a pass for being on his wagon alone then all alarm bells are ringing.
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On October 02 2014 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's not the only reason I don't want to lynch Storr.
Even if I didn't agree with his analysis, I think it's apparent he's trying to reason this fucking mess out. You're so nitpicky I swear.
You of all people should know best that you cannot townread people for doing something in LYLO. You have to look at the actual reasoning and Storr has none. If you townread him for different reasons then that is fair enough but if he is reading you town only for being on Palmar then that doesn't add up.
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On October 02 2014 01:57 StorrZerg wrote:
I all Ready explained my reason which from a purely logic stand point.
There is no logic. You literally claim that Obi has to be dumb town because all the other people on the wagon are dumb town.
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On October 02 2014 01:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's not the only reason I don't want to lynch Storr.
Even if I didn't agree with his analysis, I think it's apparent he's trying to reason this fucking mess out. You're so nitpicky I swear. You of all people should know best that you cannot townread people for doing something in LYLO. You have to look at the actual reasoning and Storr has none. If you townread him for different reasons then that is fair enough but if he is reading you town only for being on Palmar then that doesn't add up. So what exactly are you saying here?
I am saying that if you are town then you should be suspicious of how he doesn't even consider the possibility that you could be scum.
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On October 02 2014 02:06 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 01:59 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 01:57 StorrZerg wrote:
I all Ready explained my reason which from a purely logic stand point. There is no logic. You literally claim that Obi has to be dumb town because all the other people on the wagon are dumb town. No his alignment doesn't matter. I know there are 2 mafia within ve jat ff superbia. If obi is town, then 3. If not still 2.
Yeah, so what? That's not a reason to exclude him at all.
Hey you know, I am fairly sure there are 3 mafia between you, VE, Obi, FF and Superbia. So VE has a V in his name. So I know there are at least 2 scum between Obi, FF, Super and you. If VE is town 3 if not still 2.
Do you see the problem here?
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On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward.
None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today.
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On October 02 2014 02:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't "pick" a favorite wagon. Palmar did something really suspicious and I went after him for it.
It's an easy thing to look at in hindsight and say it's scummy because his flip is already out there.
Furthermore why wouldn't scumStorr have motivation to switch to Palmar? By your own reasoning you should be suspicious of both of us and not just me. But you were just questioning him on his reasoning and gave him a pass without getting an answer. Because Storr was already on a PASSING townie wagon in Sky unless I'm missing something. That means that he had to draw attention to himself by switching wagons, DRAW FURTHER ATTENTION to himself by making huge posts on the matter, and then STILL look bad because Palmar flipped town WHICH HE WOULD KNOW. YOU on the other hand were NOT on a wagon. You hadn't chosen a side, so when you finally do choose a side it doesn't look AS suspicious on the surface...but given the flip, it makes it look like you were just going with the flow and voting on the easiest mislynch at the time. I was already suspicious of Sky. I had chosen a side long beforehand but Palmar came and did something really fucking scummy. So I voted him. This is what happens when you don't read the game.
Pretty rich to attack a new replacement of not having read the game.
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On October 02 2014 02:19 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. He's saying that from everyone's perspective: 3 mafia. IF you think 1 is mafia between Obi/Storr (based on D2 wagons) then there HAVE to be 2 in the other voters. IF you think they are both mafia then there is only one in the other voters. He's saying that from his perspective, he KNOWS there's at max 1 on Palmar (because he knows he is town) Therefor he knows that there are AT LEAST 2 in the other voters, POSSIBLY 3. From his perspective.
Yeah, that is basic logic. It does not explain a townpass for Obi though.
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On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi.
Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar.
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On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question.
Good observation. Have a cookie.
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On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more.
Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town.
I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be.
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On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully".
Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died.
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On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:
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None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory.
There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played.
And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later.
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And to be fair VE I don't think your reasoning on Obi is very good.
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On October 02 2014 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:38 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 02 2014 02:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:35 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Your case boils down to me switching without initially voting Sky.
If I voted Sky beforehand you wouldn't have said shit. Maybe, but you didn't. Further, in spite of Sky being a SUPER HARD TOWNREAD, you were the LAST on his wagon yesterday. Get rektum scum. <3 Explain how me being last on his wagon yesterday is bad. Because you JUST claimed (indignantly) that "if you'd read the thread you'd know that Sky has been my top mafia read all game"....if that's the case then why weren't you in here HARD pushing him ALL DAY? Why wasn't your vote INSTANTLY on Sky yesterday? TOWNIES who have hard mafia reads VOTE on them. MAFIA who have "hard mafia reads" want to see if the wagon is going to take off before voting.
This is better already. Not that it matters at all when he was voting him but he wasn't pushing.
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On October 02 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
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Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later. Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything.
wat
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On October 02 2014 02:49 VisceraEyes wrote:
You literally just said you're willing to lynch me. I've done nothing but try and figure out the game since I started. Get fucked.
Yes, you are. What I said is that if I consider the whole game your slot played you are still on the table. You could be mafia tryharding for the last day. But maybe you aren't the best lynch.
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You can't expect me to ignore Harus play.
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On October 02 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:
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Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later. Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything.
Btw what are you talking about? Storr is not confirmed town.
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On October 02 2014 02:54 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 00:54 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 00:51 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 00:48 justanothertownie wrote:
Hi VE btw. I hope you have the time to do a lot today if you are town because your slot looks awfully scummy. Frankly I replaced in knowing I'd probably be lynched. I'll do exactly as much as I need to to try and find mafia - I'm not expending extra effort to make sure you guys don't mislynch me. I can't even do that when I've been in a game THE WHOLE TIME, and there's no way for me to explain posts my predecessor made, so all my energy is going into finding mafia and zero into defending myself. Attention scum: VE is the easiest mislynch ever this game, and you can probably hide on his wagon. Just FYI. No problem. Don't even bother with Harus stuff and just post your own thoughts. It would also be appreciated if you refrained from martyring (if you are town). So which is it JAT? Do you want me to bother with Haru's stuff or don't you? Are you going to read my slot based on my posts or not?
Of course I am reading your slot by your posts AND Harus posts. What question is that even? What I told you is that YOU should not bother to explain Harus posts if you are town.
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On October 02 2014 02:56 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:
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Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later. Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything. Btw what are you talking about? Storr is not confirmed town. I gave reasoning for thinking Storr is town. Storr as mafia has no reason. NO REASON AT ALL to switch from Sky to Palmar after lurking the whole day WITH his vote on Sky. He can just sit back, do nothing, and let Sky get lynched. Instead he comes in and in a tirade gets people to lynch Palmar. MAFIA DO NOT DO THAT. So Storr is town to me. I probably won't lynch unless he and I are both in final 3 with someone who looks REALLY REALLY fucking town, and that guy makes a REALLY REALLY good case that I literally can say nothing to. He's THAT town to me.
This reasoning is awful. Mafia gains so much more from lynching Palmar over Sky in that situation. Storr did basically the same Obi did with the exception that he actually had a vote on Sky.
Let me explain it once again: If we lynch Sky that day a question mark and sure mislynch is removed. And Palmar who certainly will not be mislynched later on and who is a much stronger player than Skydragon is alive. Are you still telling me there is no reason at all for Storr to lynch Palmar here?
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On October 02 2014 03:03 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 03:00 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:
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Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town.
I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later. Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything. Btw what are you talking about? Storr is not confirmed town. I gave reasoning for thinking Storr is town. Storr as mafia has no reason. NO REASON AT ALL to switch from Sky to Palmar after lurking the whole day WITH his vote on Sky. He can just sit back, do nothing, and let Sky get lynched. Instead he comes in and in a tirade gets people to lynch Palmar. MAFIA DO NOT DO THAT. So Storr is town to me. I probably won't lynch unless he and I are both in final 3 with someone who looks REALLY REALLY fucking town, and that guy makes a REALLY REALLY good case that I literally can say nothing to. He's THAT town to me. This reasoning is awful. Mafia gains so much more from lynching Palmar over Sky in that situation. Storr did basically the same Obi did with the exception that he actually had a vote on Sky. Let me explain it once again: If we lynch Sky that day a question mark and sure mislynch is removed. And Palmar who certainly will not be mislynched later on and who is a much stronger player than Skydragon is alive. Are you still telling me there is no reason at all for Storr to lynch Palmar here? But that's the thing: why will palmar "certainly not be mislynched later on"? Clearly he was mislynched then, so why is it less likely later?
Because Palmar would have fought against it. He was literally wagoned when he had just left the thread.
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And had announced that he wouldn't return before deadline.
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On October 02 2014 03:08 batsnacks wrote:
I probably wouldn't vote StoreZerg today.
Who would you vote?
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I actually rescind my townread on FF. He does not seem like he is figuring out the game recently.
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Like half of his filter is day1.
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On October 02 2014 03:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 03:00 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:
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Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town.
I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later. Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything. Btw what are you talking about? Storr is not confirmed town. I gave reasoning for thinking Storr is town. Storr as mafia has no reason. NO REASON AT ALL to switch from Sky to Palmar after lurking the whole day WITH his vote on Sky. He can just sit back, do nothing, and let Sky get lynched. Instead he comes in and in a tirade gets people to lynch Palmar. MAFIA DO NOT DO THAT. So Storr is town to me. I probably won't lynch unless he and I are both in final 3 with someone who looks REALLY REALLY fucking town, and that guy makes a REALLY REALLY good case that I literally can say nothing to. He's THAT town to me. This reasoning is awful. Mafia gains so much more from lynching Palmar over Sky in that situation. Storr did basically the same Obi did with the exception that he actually had a vote on Sky. Let me explain it once again: If we lynch Sky that day a question mark and sure mislynch is removed. And Palmar who certainly will not be mislynched later on and who is a much stronger player than Skydragon is alive. Are you still telling me there is no reason at all for Storr to lynch Palmar here? No because he can just kill Palmar in the night. He doesn't HAVE to lynch him there at all, he has EVERY EXCUSE to just ride it out on Sky and then NK Palmar if he thinks he's such a 'threat'.
You don't get it, do you? They could NOT kill Palmar since they had to kill Joey. Also even if they could NK him it is still better to lynch him and leave Sky alive because Sky would have just been mislynched later no matter what.
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Like sure he has every excuse to lynch Sky but it is much much better for scum to lynch Palmar and NOT Sky in that situation. It is really not hard to understand.
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On October 02 2014 19:25 VisceraEyes wrote:
All townies need to filter Storrzerg and filter "cop" and just look at all the tasty delicious lies he tells. I'm astounded no one has said anything about this, and if they have, that they haven't brought it to my attention yet.
I did. HF did. I just didn't bring it up again since you joined the game. Will comment on a few things now until my lunch break is over.
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I am fairly certain that the 3 scum lie between FF, Obi, Storr and Superbia. VE is putting in more effort than I ever saw him doing as scum and I also doubt that hosts would replace a scum player at this point tbh.
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On October 02 2014 07:04 StorrZerg wrote:
@jat mafia would gain more for palmer going first. Thing is its very likely the whole palmar lynch was done by just town. Hell if obi is scum, he gets someone else to hammer /help. AND mafia don't kill holyflare in that situation.
wat
This still doesn't even make the slightes bit of sense.
So why did mafia kill HF btw.?
On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4.
That is not logical. Not even a bit. You aren't improving your odds of lynching scum by removing Obi from the equation one bit.
On October 02 2014 10:32 StorrZerg wrote:
Voting VE.
Not sure which of the 4 i like the most as town. But Ve makes sense for now, I really liked my case against haru, I don't like how he is playing this day. First his sudden aggression on myself. And now his refusal to move off obi, even though his case isn't that great.
I've asked him to explain more, and instead i'm met with "not listening to you any more" and his persistence on pushing obi.
And refusal to look into more detail on the list of 4.
I am baffled at how anyone could think that VE is the scummiest here. Haru was fucking scummy, yes. But if you look at VEs play today and call it mafia I am calling you mafia.
On October 02 2014 11:30 StorrZerg wrote:
Personally. I think jats play has been super lack luster. Can't remember anything about his play or impact in the game. With out diving back into his filter.
WHAT? Then who was the one pushing the hardest for lynching Skydragon yesterday? ME. And that's not the only thing I did this game that you can't possibly have forgotten. You can call me scummy for pushing a mislynch but you can't give me this shit.
On October 02 2014 14:35 StorrZerg wrote:
Most of this isn't a read on obi, rather observations of the game involving him, and logically it's better for town to be lynching within the named 4.
4. I dont. Again it's my logic train. I really don't have a solid read on him, and I'm not lynching him, so I don't care about him all that much.
Repeating the same bullshit does not make it any more true. This is fucking idiotic if you are town.
On October 02 2014 15:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 14:26 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 02 2014 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, that's part of why I want to lynch you. You're being very unreasonable. EVEN IF you are town and think I'm mafia, you're generally reasonable as town. You don't speak TO your scumreads either when you're town, as town you generally know that arguing with scumreads is fruitless so when you post about your scumreads you tend to speak ABOUT them in a general sense as if you're actually speaking to OTHER townies to try and convince them. If you're town then your play is drastically different than I remember it being. I thought the switch onto Palmar made you town, but frankly your play this cycle and JAT's points nullify that for me so I think you're mafia. If you think his town play is drastically different this game and were basing your townread on him on his switch to palmar alone how could you call him confirmed town ever? Seems weird to call someone confirmed town just to call them mafia after they point a finger at you... I have a clearer picture of his motives now that I've seen him play this cycle. Like, look at how he townreads Haru until it's convenient for him. I couldn't even FIND his case on Haru because there WAS no case. I assumed there was one because he said there was, and when he pointed out what he was calling his case and I read it, that really made me look at his posting this cycle. Look at how he's treating Obi - he refuses to call him town, but gives several reasons WHY he thinks he's town. He's either keeping his options open or he's going for the win WITH Obi THIS cycle - that would explain his nonsensical push on the other 4 players AND his wishywashy attitude about Obi. Storr was pointing a finger at me long before he voted for me. He was calling me mafia before I even posted (he was reading Haru mafia remember) so I called him confirmed town WHILE he was pointing a finger at me. If you thought YOUR observation was weird, CHEW ON THAT.
This is a very good post.
On October 02 2014 15:53 StorrZerg wrote:
VE mafia, tunnels the easiest person he thinks he can that is town for the win. He doesn't want to be in this mess of a game, i don't blame him.
Town VE, upset sure. I don't think he tunnels this badly though. He seemed to care about figuring out the game, but clearly he doesn't care.
How the fuck are you the easiest person to tunnel for him? I thought you were "confirmed town" from the Palmar lynch?
On October 02 2014 16:04 StorrZerg wrote:
5. The palmar swtich confirms me as town.
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On October 02 2014 08:05 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:03 Fecalfeast wrote:On October 02 2014 07:59 StorrZerg wrote:
@ff I want to know if you read obi town, or myself town, or neither. And why. You: town, I have had you as town most of the game. I don't have a good read on obi I can't recall his posts off the top of my head. I have been reading super's and JaT's filters but I will go through obi's now and continue the others later. Give me a sec. As for why I read you town, you have been posting tonnes and actually trying to reason with people about reads rather than just responding to what others say and asking for elaborations like, say, JaT
If there is anyone only asking others to do stuff or to elaborate it is fucking storrzerg. Wtf. If there was anyone who reasoned with peoples read yesterday - it was me. You are scum.
On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
rofl
Now you are telling me short posts make me mafia? I propose that you take a look at any towngame of mine. Also if you think pushing my reads for 3 days is fluff then well, I guess my filter is full of it.
On October 02 2014 08:35 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. I, barring a slap of logic, point the finger of suspicion at JaT then.
You do realize that you will need a "slap of logic" at some point today, yes? It is LYLO.
On October 02 2014 10:39 Fecalfeast wrote:
Here's where my wifom meter goes crazy though. Mafia reads the thread, sees that more than one person have said "If sky flips town HF or Haru is mafia!!" so, seeing the oppourtunity to get an easy win they kill HF to narrow people down to killing Haru who may have just been afk town.
Makes no sense. Why would they limit their mislynch opportunites from 2 to 1.
On October 02 2014 11:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think I finally understand why you think obi isn't worth it for today.
Out of the other 3 I want to say JaT for reasons I have already specified. (a very bloated filter with hardly any self-generated content)
Every single word in this post is scummy. Holy shit. There is no reason for the Obi thing and having a big filter (the biggest in the game I think) is certainly not a scum trait. I also have undoubtly created way more original content than you have.
On October 02 2014 14:35 Fecalfeast wrote:I think if we are voting between obi and storr that obi is the better pick just based on effort put in. Storr:I went back and read your reasoning on not looking at obi tonight + Show Spoiler +On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote: Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right?
no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia.
There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE.
So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE.
If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. and it's really doesn't make sense to me. You basically say "Well from my point of view I'm town and obi might be mafia OR town so there are at least 2 mafia in the rest of people so ignore obi for now" That works with anyone in the game replace obi with anyone else alive in the game and your 'logic' works. How did I let that slide before?
On October 02 2014 14:46 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.
Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.
What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.
JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.
I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.
Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right? no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia. There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE. So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE. If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4. Okay now watch this: Logically i don't want to vote VE today. From my point of view, even if VE is mafia. There are 2 mafia within Storr, Super, Jat, Obi. So even if you think VE is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, Obi.
LOL. This guy calls me out for not having original content and just blatantly rehashes exactly what I said earlier. roflroflrofl
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Voting FF since there is like a minimal possibilty for Storr to just act really really stupid. Also whoever of you is towny don't forget that we ALL need to vote together. So, if you want to lynch someone you need to convince batsnacks that it is the correct target. If you vote for someone else than he does at the end of the day town literally cannot win.
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Will be back in the evening.
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On October 02 2014 20:46 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 20:19 justanothertownie wrote:
Voting FF since there is like a minimal possibilty for Storr to just act really really stupid. Also whoever of you is towny don't forget that we ALL need to vote together. So, if you want to lynch someone you need to convince batsnacks that it is the correct target. If you vote for someone else than he does at the end of the day town literally cannot win. Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. .....I can assure you, that's a deep, rumbly and intimidating growl, not the silly cute growl it looks like on screen. You vote for Storrzerg this instant JAT. Or the bark comes next. Then the bite. Then.... you don't wanna KNOW what comes next.
What if I do wanna know?
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On October 02 2014 22:49 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 21:25 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 21:02 batsnacks wrote:On October 02 2014 20:35 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 20:24 batsnacks wrote:
FF or Store is fine. Would prefer Store right now. I'm kind of burnt out on this game. Vote for Storr and we'll bring this game back to LIFE. I voted store first Well....I mean, I know...I'm just sayin. Don't move it. Cause there's literally no way Storr is town. He's never town in a million years in this game. why not. i am town. You guys shouldn't be letting VE run this lynch today, who hasn't read the entire game, who doesn't know the interactions of everyone or why i was being town read by super hard by killing, palmar. and town read at the end by HF.
This sounds like you are suddenly townreading VE.
On October 02 2014 23:02 StorrZerg wrote:
By convincing town people that i am town. I can help them eliminate obi, and look at the other 4. They have a 66% shot at hitting mafia or even 100% if obi is town.
LIKE THIS WHOLE FUCKING PLAN DOESN"T MEAN SHIT IF I GET RAIL ROADED.
like i'm sorry i'm trying to be the god damn mayor of this crap. and what is mafia doing? sitting by...
where is super where is FF what are they doing to progress the game?
The plan doesn't mean shit regardless. It is a dumb plan.
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On October 02 2014 23:00 StorrZerg wrote:
mafia kill HF because bats is a dumb town.
Because HF was going to not push on obi or storr today, because he thought everyone on palmar was probably town.
Because mafia only need to have 3 votes while 1 town isn't voting. to win. Will holyflare be active end of day to win the game for town? YES will bats do fuck all? who knows.
On October 02 2014 23:21 StorrZerg wrote:
I wanted to lynch VE hard today. Why would i fucking kill someone like this unless i was with ve............................ Like seriously use your heads guys, follow the logic its there i swear. If i'm mafia, i'm playing for the god damn win this day, i'm not killing HF in a million years cause i would be town reading him today, and pocketing him. I would have 100% killed the uncontrollable batsnacks who happens to be confirmed town.
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At least store is doing something but I don't get how he is scumreading VE. He also still talks to him as if VE was town. Then he says HF was clearly the better night kill but he would NEVER kill HF instead of batsnacks. Like what?
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On October 03 2014 01:26 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 01:20 VisceraEyes wrote:
Site me where HF town reads Storrzerg and I might stop tuning you out. You sag he was defending you hard. I'm not at a computer, wrote the post. Show nested quote +On October 01 2014 05:57 Holyflare wrote:
I gave you my answer - the names. From what i remember haru, storr and super were off both wagons (that are alive) and the rest (fecal, you (switched before) [batsnacks], jat, obi, sky, someone?) switched fast when i made my case
That's an observation. Not a read.
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On October 03 2014 01:32 StorrZerg wrote:
@ve explain why killimg hf is beneficial to me.
You yourself answered that already. I even quoted the post recently.
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On October 03 2014 01:39 StorrZerg wrote:
Literally 0 reason for anyone to think both obi and I could be scum with the hf death.
No meta play, it's simple scum wants to win. A scum team of obi/myself never kill hf.
Fact that ve keeps pushing we are together is why he is so wrong
Now he is wrong so you DO read him town?
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On October 03 2014 01:41 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 01:38 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 03 2014 01:32 StorrZerg wrote:
@ve explain why killimg hf is beneficial to me. Because HE THINKS YOU COULD BE MAFIA! He NEVER EVER says he's reading you as town. EVER STORR! He stopped reading me as mafia. The fact that ve is happy to keep pushing this till proven wrong is absurd. When he is proven wrong " ops must have missed that, remember guys I just replaced, I won't catch everything "
Well, if it is so easy then prove him wrong please because I don't remember HF defending you OR Obi.
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And even if he said that you are town that in itself is a very good reason for you to kill him so you can say it right now. You know that HF would have reevaluated everything today. You even posted about how dangerous he would have been for scum yourself.
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On October 03 2014 01:54 batsnacks wrote:
##vote: VE
See you guys later
This is a mistake. Please think about this.
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On October 03 2014 03:57 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
That's all based on a Sky scumflip. That's all based on his read of a player which is INCORRECT Storr. Holy ABSOLUTELY would have reevaluated today, ESPECIALLY with me replacing in and Sky flipping town. OBVIOUSLY Storr. He was MUSING about the idea because it was still based on the incorrect assumption that Sky is MAFIA.
Again, Holyflare might have considered you town briefly on D3, but with the extra information that Sky is town who knows what he might have thought next? We'll never know will we because HOLYFLARE IS DEAD. Makes me look a hella lot more town, exactly why he looks hella town if sky flips. What fucking mafia team switches a for sure town lynch, to another town lynch last second. Ill tell you, they don't HE WOULD HAVE GONE AFTER HARU TODAY, AND NOT ME. THE ONLY WAY HE WOULD HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING ME WOULD BE IF SKY FLIPPED MAFIA. because in that case "i saved sky by pushing palmar" same with "obi" and people who stuck on sky would be more town. The fact that you are trying to make it appear like we have "no idea" what holy was thinking is absurd. He didn't have me in the mafia circle, ergo i was not on his radar as scum, ergo he wouldn't want to lynch me. Specially since we both wanted to lynch haru, we both pushed plamar as town. Its simple, at the time, if i was mafia, Bats dies, i push haru with holy for the win. There was no indication that haru was going to be replaced. The fact that you are in the game doesn't mean anything. We don't know how he would react, and you absolutely can't justify you know how he would act right now. If anything he 100% wouldn't be pushing me regardless.
Townies and especially good townies like HF don't go into LYLO and without reevaluating the game/rethinking their reads and I think you know that. The fact that you are trying to clear yourself of the dead townies read that you are maybe/potentially not scum could be the reason he is dead in the first place. It is equally wrong as your "townread Obi for no reason" plan.
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Like I am pretty certain that there is at least one mafia between you and Obi and you are pushing this agenda of ignoring the 2 of you. Does not look good.
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On October 03 2014 04:14 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:09 justanothertownie wrote:
Like I am pretty certain that there is at least one mafia between you and Obi and you are pushing this agenda of ignoring the 2 of you. Does not look good. thats fine if you think 1 is mafia. Thats a 50% chance at hitting the right one if you flip a coin. Deal is from your perspective, that means out of FF, Super, VE you have 2 mafia. So you should be defining 2! scum reads in that group, because THERE HAS to be 2 in that group, thats 66%.
What part of AT LEAST ONE MAFIA do you not understand? No, there don't HAVE TO BE 2 mafia in that group. It is possible but far from certain. I am not mafia. I am pretty sure that VE is not mafia. That leaves FF and super who could be scum. That means there is AT LEAST one between you and Obi. But it is also possible that you are both scum.
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On October 03 2014 04:18 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
And that's ALL he's doing. Like, I'm bringing MY OWN points to the table, every time Storr is asked to do that he just says "Nope, give me your reads on X,Y,Z - obey because all the dead townies called me town."
I'm so done with this conversation. It's destroying the thread and accomplishing nothing. My accusation on you stands Storrzerg - your explanation for the whole bats/Joey thing doesn't make any sense. Your plan to clear yourself AND Obi based on switching to a TOWNIE at the end of the day is ludicrous and you're still trying to paint me as mafia when I'm clearly not.
I'll provide my reads on the other players before end of day. I intend to continue to try and get my lynch through based on the GOOD reasoning I've provided. You think Obi and i could both be mafia. Which has very poor logic behind that, and is super far fetched. So if you down grade to 1 mafia between us. thats 50% as i said to jat. Its in your best interest to be lynching within Jat/ff/super since you are guaranteed 2 mafia in that group, 66% hence why i can defend obi on principle that he ISN"T the lynch today, and NEITHER am i. The only way Lynching either myself or obi is fine for today, from a "whole town standpoint" is if the majority think we are BOTH mafia,. That is NOT the case.
NO. The bolded part makes no fucking sense and no matter how many fucking times you repeat this retarded logic it does not magically become true.
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On October 03 2014 04:20 StorrZerg wrote:
See ve, you can't explain why I would be killing HF, because i have 0 motivation. Its clear as day on end of day 3 that HF was not going to be pushing me if Sky flipped town.
And NO ONE can reason why a team of obi + myself is even possible with the death of HF.
BOOM HEAD SHOT
On October 02 2014 23:00 StorrZerg wrote:
mafia kill HF because bats is a dumb town.
Because mafia only need to have 3 votes while 1 town isn't voting. to win. Will holyflare be active end of day to win the game for town? YES will bats do fuck all? who knows.
I think I found someone who can reason why LITERALLY ANYONE could and would kill HF.
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On October 03 2014 04:38 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:24 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 04:20 StorrZerg wrote:
See ve, you can't explain why I would be killing HF, because i have 0 motivation. Its clear as day on end of day 3 that HF was not going to be pushing me if Sky flipped town.
And NO ONE can reason why a team of obi + myself is even possible with the death of HF.
BOOM HEAD SHOT On October 02 2014 23:00 StorrZerg wrote:
mafia kill HF because bats is a dumb town.
Because mafia only need to have 3 votes while 1 town isn't voting. to win. Will holyflare be active end of day to win the game for town? YES will bats do fuck all? who knows. I think I found someone who can reason why LITERALLY ANYONE could and would kill HF. But That reason doesn't work for Both a team of Obi + storr. Because HF is going to tunnel Haru this day.
You have no idea what HF would or wouldn't have done. As I said that reason works for every possible scumteam.
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On October 03 2014 05:05 Fecalfeast wrote:
I wake up and the topic is still "obi and storr can't be scum together"
Great. I was hoping my vote on obi would bring him out and possibly get some other discussion going.
There are 4 townies to 3 wolves. Super, obi, and i haven't been here and batsnacks is hardly taking part in this argument. One of you three at least is mafia trying to keep this bullshit discussion going so we get nothing done today.
Yeah. Because discussing things is scummier than not being here. I get it. Any further useful comments? No?
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On October 03 2014 04:46 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 04:41 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 04:38 StorrZerg wrote:On October 03 2014 04:24 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 04:20 StorrZerg wrote:
See ve, you can't explain why I would be killing HF, because i have 0 motivation. Its clear as day on end of day 3 that HF was not going to be pushing me if Sky flipped town.
And NO ONE can reason why a team of obi + myself is even possible with the death of HF.
BOOM HEAD SHOT On October 02 2014 23:00 StorrZerg wrote:
mafia kill HF because bats is a dumb town.
Because mafia only need to have 3 votes while 1 town isn't voting. to win. Will holyflare be active end of day to win the game for town? YES will bats do fuck all? who knows. I think I found someone who can reason why LITERALLY ANYONE could and would kill HF. But That reason doesn't work for Both a team of Obi + storr. Because HF is going to tunnel Haru this day. You have no idea what HF would or wouldn't have done. As I said that reason works for every possible scumteam. no shit, but its clear some assumptions can be made. And some of these assumptions make VERY LOGICAL sense. Holy would have gone after haru today. that is far from "guessing" at what he would do. Holy would NOT be looking at me, looking at his conditionals for the sky lynch. That is not hard to figure out. Still you can remove all this. And still look that a scum team of obi, storr CANNOT kill HF. who is the only other "unknown" at the time who pushed palmar.
You don't know if HF would have gone after Haru today since Haru got replaced and HF WOULD have considered VEs play. The idea that Holy would not be looking at you at all is just absolutely ridiculous. And the bolded is again some statement that just does not make any sense. There is no rhyme or reason to it.
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On October 03 2014 05:18 StorrZerg wrote:
So jat you find ve play acceptable. Unwilling to give reads? Only tunneling?
I don't see how you gave any more reads or tunneled any less.
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On October 03 2014 06:48 Superbia wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 06:42 StorrZerg wrote:On October 03 2014 06:39 Superbia wrote:On October 03 2014 06:35 StorrZerg wrote:On October 03 2014 06:30 Superbia wrote:
Your entire town-read on Obi is based on "HF didn't think he was mafia, so why would he kill HF!"? I honestly liked VE's activity today, and tbh, he had some decent arguments against you. You're going pretty deep with the assumptions surrounding the HF-based reads in my opinion. 0, 1 or 2 mafia on palmar 1 at this point. Slight chance of 2. Honestly I've liked you as town but a few of your reads (specifically today) have felt very far-fetched. I don't want to lynch you today, because I still think you're probably town. But what the fuck man. No way 2 on palmar kill an unconfirmed on palmar. As for 1 on palmar. Fantastic. That means in your world 2 within ve jat ff. Proceed I've already said before that my top 2 scum were Obi and Haru (now VE) for today, with the last one being JAT > FF > You. At the moment I kind of like VE's activity and what he's had to say, so less sure on him than I am on Obi. Last one I would guess is JAT. I don't really want to lynch my 3rd+ choices at this point.
Oh god. Stahp. All those reasons are overwhelming me.
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You still reading FF, VE? I think he might be our best shot at lynching scum.
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This is hardly a wagon. Last time I checked I was the only vote on FF.
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AH, it seems Obi snuck onto it.
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On October 03 2014 09:01 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 09:00 justanothertownie wrote:
This is hardly a wagon. Last time I checked I was the only vote on FF. I think Superbia joined too right?
No. He voted Obi I think. And right now I seem to be the only one voting FF again.
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On October 03 2014 09:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, honestly the fact that EVERYONE seems content to mafRead FF is really...it's really bad. Mafia are NOT bussing in this situation, they're trying to mislynch. If we're ALL reading FF as mafia, then like....doesn't that make him town in this situation?
The problem is mafia can SAY all they want. What really matters are votes.
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On October 03 2014 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 09:18 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 09:13 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, honestly the fact that EVERYONE seems content to mafRead FF is really...it's really bad. Mafia are NOT bussing in this situation, they're trying to mislynch. If we're ALL reading FF as mafia, then like....doesn't that make him town in this situation? The problem is mafia can SAY all they want. What really matters are votes. Well those don't really matter either until the end breeeehhhhhhh. Last-minute shenannies for the lose. Ask anyone from TL XLVII.
This only makes votes even more important. Town needs to vote together - we have to consolidate on one target. And we need batsnacks to do it.
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Oh god.. Obi and Storr are both on my wagon?
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If Bats does not return I will vote Storr.
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On October 03 2014 09:36 StorrZerg wrote:
O yeah jat
What?
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On October 03 2014 09:41 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 09:40 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 09:36 StorrZerg wrote:
O yeah jat What? Your holding the vote
I voted ages ago?!
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On October 03 2014 09:47 StorrZerg wrote:
Jat comments? super confirmed scum in your eyes?
Depends if he sticks with it. Very likely scum though.
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On October 03 2014 09:49 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 09:49 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 09:47 StorrZerg wrote:
Jat comments? super confirmed scum in your eyes? Depends if he sticks with it. Very likely scum though. well it doens't matter bats isn't here to "guide" imma laugh if bats isn't actually green checked by killing.
stay tuned we will know soon!
That would be a fitting end for this travesty.
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On October 03 2014 08:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Again, I'm giving JAT the benefit of the doubt. Maybe a mistake - he fools the likes of marv and Palmar. This is my least sure read, but the one I want to be correct the most (even over my Storr scumread). If JAT is mafia I'm going to probably cry. TEARS OF BLOOD.
y u make me feel bad VE
You played great though.
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On October 03 2014 10:03 StorrZerg wrote:
so scum, why did you kill hf over bats
Because he would have tried and he is a good player.
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On October 03 2014 10:03 Holyflare wrote:btw i thought haru was probably town over the night and i wrote a massive post about the scum team not including haru and i was going to solid town read storr too gj for shooting me, bastards, wasted so much time -.-
I am making a habit of shooting you going into LYLO.
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On October 03 2014 10:06 yamato77 wrote:
Setup seems balanced like this IMO, town just played much worse than mafia.
It didn't help that both Palmar and Haru tried to replace out and obviously lost interest.
Setup is FAR from balanced. It is actually hilariously town favored. People agreed heavyweight was slightly townfavored because scum needed 4 mislynches. This game is the same only that town has a fucking godlike cop on top of it. With a N0 check for whatever retarded reason.
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Also replacing someone DURING LYLO is a fucking stupid mod decision.
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On October 03 2014 10:10 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:08 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:06 yamato77 wrote:
Setup seems balanced like this IMO, town just played much worse than mafia.
It didn't help that both Palmar and Haru tried to replace out and obviously lost interest. Setup is FAR from balanced. It is actually hilariously town favored. People agreed heavyweight was slightly townfavored because scum needed 4 mislynches. This game is the same only that town has a fucking godlike cop on top of it. With a N0 check for whatever retarded reason. 1 role. Silent nights. Short cycles. And non-locked LYLO voting. All things in scum's favor. Not even close to town-favored.
You are wrong but I won't even argue with you. I am not joining your games any time soon anyways.
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On October 03 2014 10:11 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:10 justanothertownie wrote:
Also replacing someone DURING LYLO is a fucking stupid mod decision. I talked about this, and it isn't. You win FOR FREE if I don't. That is worse.
That's the stupidest argument I ever heard. You are punishing us for playing well.
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On October 03 2014 10:12 yamato77 wrote:
I wouldn't let you, you were a massive dick all game long to me and everyone else in the game.
Yeah, sure.
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On October 03 2014 10:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:11 yamato77 wrote:On October 03 2014 10:10 justanothertownie wrote:
Also replacing someone DURING LYLO is a fucking stupid mod decision. I talked about this, and it isn't. You win FOR FREE if I don't. That is worse. This, basically. I don't like the fact that VE replaced in when we couldn't do anything about it anymore, but eh, the Haru replace 100% needed to happen.
It needed to happen. But not during LYLO. Do it before or don't do it at all.
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On October 03 2014 10:13 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:11 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:10 yamato77 wrote:On October 03 2014 10:08 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:06 yamato77 wrote:
Setup seems balanced like this IMO, town just played much worse than mafia.
It didn't help that both Palmar and Haru tried to replace out and obviously lost interest. Setup is FAR from balanced. It is actually hilariously town favored. People agreed heavyweight was slightly townfavored because scum needed 4 mislynches. This game is the same only that town has a fucking godlike cop on top of it. With a N0 check for whatever retarded reason. 1 role. Silent nights. Short cycles. And non-locked LYLO voting. All things in scum's favor. Not even close to town-favored. You are wrong but I won't even argue with you. I am not joining your games any time soon anyways. You bitch an awful lot for someone who just won a perfect victory as mafia in this setup.
Yes, I do. Because how well we played or how much town sucked has nothing to do with the argument.
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On October 03 2014 10:14 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:12 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:11 yamato77 wrote:On October 03 2014 10:10 justanothertownie wrote:
Also replacing someone DURING LYLO is a fucking stupid mod decision. I talked about this, and it isn't. You win FOR FREE if I don't. That is worse. That's the stupidest argument I ever heard. You are punishing us for playing well. I'm not punishing you. I'm having the game run its actual course. As I said, it would have been only slightly different if Haru had simply started playing himself, but I know from talking with him that that was not going to happen.
It would be completely different.
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On October 03 2014 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:14 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:13 Hapahauli wrote:On October 03 2014 10:11 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:10 yamato77 wrote:On October 03 2014 10:08 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:06 yamato77 wrote:
Setup seems balanced like this IMO, town just played much worse than mafia.
It didn't help that both Palmar and Haru tried to replace out and obviously lost interest. Setup is FAR from balanced. It is actually hilariously town favored. People agreed heavyweight was slightly townfavored because scum needed 4 mislynches. This game is the same only that town has a fucking godlike cop on top of it. With a N0 check for whatever retarded reason. 1 role. Silent nights. Short cycles. And non-locked LYLO voting. All things in scum's favor. Not even close to town-favored. You are wrong but I won't even argue with you. I am not joining your games any time soon anyways. You bitch an awful lot for someone who just won a perfect victory as mafia in this setup. Yes, I do. Because how well we played or how much town sucked has nothing to do with the argument. Or maybe it's because the setup isn't as slanted as you think it is. It is slightly town-favored, because the inclusion of a cop is weighted against silent nights, 36-hour day cycles, etc. That is the argument, and you've worked yourself up so much emotionally that you're unwilling to consider it.
I am not worked up because of the setup. It's my own damn fault for joining. I am furious about the replacement.
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On October 03 2014 10:19 Hapahauli wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:18 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:16 Hapahauli wrote:On October 03 2014 10:14 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:13 Hapahauli wrote:On October 03 2014 10:11 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:10 yamato77 wrote:On October 03 2014 10:08 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:06 yamato77 wrote:
Setup seems balanced like this IMO, town just played much worse than mafia.
It didn't help that both Palmar and Haru tried to replace out and obviously lost interest. Setup is FAR from balanced. It is actually hilariously town favored. People agreed heavyweight was slightly townfavored because scum needed 4 mislynches. This game is the same only that town has a fucking godlike cop on top of it. With a N0 check for whatever retarded reason. 1 role. Silent nights. Short cycles. And non-locked LYLO voting. All things in scum's favor. Not even close to town-favored. You are wrong but I won't even argue with you. I am not joining your games any time soon anyways. You bitch an awful lot for someone who just won a perfect victory as mafia in this setup. Yes, I do. Because how well we played or how much town sucked has nothing to do with the argument. Or maybe it's because the setup isn't as slanted as you think it is. It is slightly town-favored, because the inclusion of a cop is weighted against silent nights, 36-hour day cycles, etc. That is the argument, and you've worked yourself up so much emotionally that you're unwilling to consider it. I am not worked up because of the setup. It's my own damn fault for joining. I am furious about the replacement. Oh that? I think you're not thinking this through from the host's perspective. Do you want your game ruined and everyone angry at you because you ended the game like that? It's a shitty situation to be in where both decisions are wrong.
Haru didn't play for a long time. You can replace him earlier and noone complains. You could AT LEAST replace him in with the nightpost. But not during the fucking day of LYLO. It fucks over scum so hard.
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On October 03 2014 10:20 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:17 yamato77 wrote:
Storr, VE played well until you refused to rethink your blind townread of Obi, who was actually mafia. it wasn't a blind town read. IT was a logical read to NOT vote him that day because i know 100% 2 are in the group of 4. The read turned into more town, because people refused to lynch within the 4. specifically VE. who refused to do any reads on those people and tunnel me.
Dude, now that the game is over - believe me, it is not a logical read.
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Would someone be so kind to link the obs qt now? Thanks.
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On October 03 2014 10:25 Superbia wrote:
Ty HF/Yam.
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On October 03 2014 10:28 VisceraEyes wrote:
Maybe I'll join the new newbie game. O.O
If you had been in the game from the start and played the way you did then town probably wouldn't have lost so hard.
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On October 03 2014 10:33 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I mean I still technically did that but I had to defend myself sort of. Meh. I needed a strong townie to work with. No one was interested. Next time perhaps.
Well, I was interested...
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On October 03 2014 10:35 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:35 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:33 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 03 2014 10:32 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I mean I still technically did that but I had to defend myself sort of. Meh. I needed a strong townie to work with. No one was interested. Next time perhaps. Well, I was interested... I said a STRONG townie JAT....
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On October 03 2014 10:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
Reading the scum QT I feel so fooled.
Why? ^_^
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On October 03 2014 10:53 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 03 2014 10:42 justanothertownie wrote:On October 03 2014 10:41 Fecalfeast wrote:
Reading the scum QT I feel so fooled. Why? ^_^ Show nested quote +Superbia
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Thing is, I've entangled myself quite a bit with FF. So me flipping scum means they likely go after FF. I thought he was the only one who understood...
That's so sad...
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On October 03 2014 10:51 GlowingBear wrote:
I find so funny that you guys thought I was seer
I wasn't trying to take a bullet, but it totally made sense
Really? I could have sworn...
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On October 03 2014 20:09 Palmar wrote:
Yeah, Killing is a moron and so is batsnacks. You literally cannot play worse cop than what killing did.
Also, I went to sleep with 0 votes on me, at most 1. And I woke up lynched. That wasn't fun. Why the hell didn't you guys do it earlier?
I genuinely have no idea how they could lynch you. And yeah killing was awful. If he had played decently town would probably have won.
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Bitch, you were townreading me in the end!
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On October 04 2014 00:23 marvellosity wrote:ooooooh. Maybe I start to solve jat a little
Maybe. But my play was pretty awful this game.
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