2p2 Vanilla Werewolf 13er

On September 25 2014 08:34 Fecalfeast wrote:
The fact that nobody was using the voting thread made me think they were joke votes. That's why I didn't use the thread anyway.

Lol I actually like your case holyflare

On September 25 2014 08:41 GlowingBear wrote:
Oh THANK GOD I'm town again! I hate rolling scum.

Ok, Haru, tell me what you think of holyflower by now

On September 25 2014 09:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Note to self: no fun ever at the start of a mafia game.

On September 25 2014 09:31 GlowingBear wrote:
Storr, what do you think of HF and Hopeless?

What do you think of HF's case?

On September 25 2014 09:33 GlowingBear wrote:


What on Haru start makes you even throw town points?

On September 25 2014 09:33 Holyflare wrote:


I am sorry that you have rolled mafia again.

On September 25 2014 10:09 StorrZerg wrote:



on the contrary, maybe you have. I'm pleased to be town.

On September 25 2014 10:11 GlowingBear wrote:


What did you like on his explanation and care to explain exactly what did you like on his entrance?

On September 25 2014 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok

Glowningbear's first scum team guess: Haru, HF, Storr

Gonna have dinner and give reasons

On September 25 2014 10:26 Holyflare wrote:
Oh thank god I'm town again after just rolling scum is how it should be read.

On September 25 2014 11:02 GlowingBear wrote:
I think Storr is mafia because of this:

This post stinks:



(1) very has reason to call someone definetely scum. I did that no geript last game. There is nothing alignment indicative in fecal's entrance and that makes storr look bad.

(2) storr was scum with me and I clearly stated on the qt that I wanted to be town. I was mafia for 3 games and I wish I was town on this, which I am. I never lied.

The way he is disliking entrances looks like he is trying to pretend to be an aggressive town.

Also, he gives Haru free town pass for his entrance and also obiwan. None has alignment indicative posts.



I'm on a phone and I'm too lazy to search for the town pass on Haru now.

storr is my strongest scum read the moment

On September 25 2014 18:07 GlowingBear wrote:


Worst part is he is giving free town passes for obi and Haru for no reason and reading fecal and me as scum for no reason.
Biased at the very least.

On September 25 2014 23:54 Holyflare wrote:


yeh i realised after i posted that

On September 26 2014 07:53 GlowingBear wrote:


This is wrong :/ you should consider everyone.

On September 26 2014 07:54 SkyDragon wrote:


Yeah, I'd be willing to take a gamble on him. I'd rather go for Storr though.

On September 26 2014 08:02 StorrZerg wrote:


ok so then push me. make a detailed read, quote some posts. explain why i'm scummy.

On September 26 2014 08:34 SkyDragon wrote:
I was actually in the middle of writing a long post about Storr (Hence why I went quiet) but refreshed the page and saw your diatribe aimed at both me and GB. GB is clearly forcing people to talk by claiming that they're suspicious and I think that it's a good strategy. It doesn't matter whether he backtracks because the point is to force people out of the shadows and defend themselves. You just don't get that.

On September 26 2014 08:51 SkyDragon wrote:
So a post made in response to a question asking "why d1 claimers got lynched on SK" is "scummy"? Really? Jesus Christ.

And did you really just say that I have to convince myself that you're not scum? And how would I be able to do that? Please enlighten me.

On September 26 2014 08:53 SkyDragon wrote:


What bad reads? No-one is confirmed Town right now so there are no bad reads. Everyone's effectively guessing for the most part. We could all be talking bs at this stage.

On September 25 2014 09:11 StorrZerg wrote:
sick i love being confirmed town.

lets lynch some scum

On September 26 2014 08:56 SkyDragon wrote:


You haven't said anything worthwhile. Just deflected, deflected and deflected.

On September 26 2014 08:58 SkyDragon wrote:


Self-confirmation doesn't make it so.

In that case, I'm confirmed Town as well. Because I said so.

On September 26 2014 08:34 SkyDragon wrote:
I was actually in the middle of writing a long post about Storr (Hence why I went quiet) but refreshed the page and saw your diatribe aimed at both me and GB. GB is clearly forcing people to talk by claiming that they're suspicious and I think that it's a good strategy. It doesn't matter whether he backtracks because the point is to force people out of the shadows and defend themselves. You just don't get that.

On September 26 2014 09:00 SkyDragon wrote:
Nah, but seriously, just give me a moment. I'll respond to you, Storr.

On September 26 2014 09:19 SkyDragon wrote:
I would say Bats at this stage. Storr just doesn't seem as suspicious to me anymore.

On September 26 2014 09:30 SkyDragon wrote:


That's true. I was making my reply to him (Thoroughly checking his comments) but noticed that he generally became less aggressive as the game has continued. My main issues with him still are that

- He confirmed himself and insisted that he was Town in his very first post
- He started pointing fingers at FF and GB within minutes of his first post
- He stated that ObiWan was probably Town, even though the guy had barely said anything of relevance at that stage

On September 26 2014 09:33 SkyDragon wrote:
I still think he's suspicious though but am far more suspicious of Bat now simply because he refused to defend himself against my accusations.

On September 26 2014 09:12 SkyDragon wrote:
@Superbia - What you said is a non-issue to me. Storr was most suspicious to me anyway, and ObiWan became suspicious once Storr said that he's probably Town. I added Hopeless as third most suspicious before your comment about my read on Hopeless so it doesn't mean anything. I was going to call out Bats once Storr said to push someone but then he decided to make an appearance so I didn't have to.

On September 26 2014 13:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Does he do this as either alignment or one specifically?

On September 26 2014 23:44 GlowingBear wrote:
I want to lynch Haru. I've already give reasons why. Now, there's possible scum not wanting to lynch Haru. I want to lynch Haru. Lets lynch Haru.

##Vote: Haru

On September 27 2014 00:15 Palmar wrote:
Like why take my word for it, you can make your own decision, right?

On September 27 2014 01:07 HaruRH wrote:


for this post, palmar is town. People who played in fanfic would know why.

On September 27 2014 01:08 Superbia wrote:
Nothing really. Anything in particular you want me to look into?

On September 27 2014 01:13 Palmar wrote:
Seriously why does no one want to like be my friend today.

This sucks.

We're not gonna lynch mafia unless you guys get your act together.

On September 26 2014 20:03 Palmar wrote:

Short version

I think his tone and activity are more likely to come from a townie. He at some point came under fire for his opinions and stuck to his guns. Also I don't remember him being so adamant about wanting people to know his reads and how strong they were when he was mafia. It seems to matter to him that people know what he's thinking.

On September 26 2014 21:55 justanothertownie wrote:

Not convinced that he is a better lynch than let's say Sky. Since he isn't here it wouldn't pressure him at all.

On September 27 2014 01:17 GlowingBear wrote:


LOL I totally rescind my read now that Haru is actually playing.
This is town Haru.

On September 27 2014 02:04 GlowingBear wrote:


I haven't read him town for him being active, I read him town because his posts sounded townish. I have a good grasp of how haru sound as town and how he sounds as scum.

You're scum this game, storr, and I'll prove it soon enough

On September 27 2014 02:21 Killing wrote:


I can read the first word of each post and still have better reads than you. How you feeling about that?

On September 27 2014 02:23 GlowingBear wrote:


If I say, I'll make Haru self aware and he will use it as scum. I'd rather say I believe he is town because his last posts sounded townish.
I haven't backed off when people said Haru is town. I backed off when I've got my own read from Haru, which is different from what HF did.

God, I want to lynch you so hard. (Not God. You.)

On September 27 2014 02:25 Holyflare wrote:
So when you guys want to stop being useless and comment on my actual game relevant information you can do that thanks.

On September 27 2014 02:39 StorrZerg wrote:
"Says that's the end", continues to post about it...

On September 27 2014 02:28 StorrZerg wrote:



I am explain why GB avoiding the haru read is pro town.

On September 27 2014 02:52 Holyflare wrote:
stop sidetracking! comment on the case comment on superbia comment on something useful that's not generic crap about me or how gb's actions are doing one thing or another

On September 27 2014 03:04 Holyflare wrote:


what an awful statement when i just proposed a case that showed this read was entirely fabricated and he lied about his town read being explained previously and his differences in giving out these town reads

not to mention that it was a super shallow town read when he even said he couldn't read you day 1 and you often fool him so not only is it weird in that regard but it's super odd you aren't going to comment on it at all

On September 27 2014 03:26 SkyDragon wrote:


"It only works if you truly believe"? Wtf does that mean? You're either Town or you're not. Does that mean that you're scum? Playing completely like you're Town, as if you've been given a Town card and you won't let any scum thoughts enter your mind even though you're scum? In essence, you've been given the scum card but 'you truly believe that you're Town so you're Town'? Just doesn't sit right with me at all.

I've thought Storr has been pretty suspicious to varying degrees over the last 48 hours anyway. He may have 'lightened up' for a brief period yesterday (Hence why I said he was less suspicious) but overall, I still think he's more likely than everyone else to be scum.

On September 27 2014 03:29 Holyflare wrote:


i want you to comment on it before he says anything because it's not just about reading him it's about reading you and i'm not interested in joke responses from you

On September 27 2014 03:37 SkyDragon wrote:


Well.. That didn't explain anything at all. And there you go again confirming yourself as Town as if that somehow magically makes people believe it.

On September 27 2014 03:42 Holyflare wrote:


this is just not true at all the town read on you is only part of it and yes it does help me, stop being a twat and explain yourself

On September 27 2014 03:50 SkyDragon wrote:
Yeah, but Scum is known to make excuses about real-world problems for their lack of activity. It gives them an excuse to just sit in the background while Town accuses each other for stupid reasons. Although I think Haru had a reasonably valid reason for getting excited about green vt, it still could be a ruse. Your eagerness at jumping on board the "Haru is town" train and even going as far as to protect Haru just seems really odd to me.

On September 26 2014 19:37 Holyflare wrote:


Sure.




This post. Sky disregards the entirety of batsnacks long posts about GB in like 1 or 2 sentences even though the case was pretty good. The bolded just seemed super weird in context because it's like "hey can't you see this guy is blatantly doing this!" when in actual fact he isn't really and it just seemed he knew GB's motives better than anyone else in the game did.

On September 27 2014 04:11 SkyDragon wrote:
I'm well aware that people have to tend to real life. I just stated that Scum uses it as an excuse more often than not.

Also, you admit that both sides could use that excuse, but Haru is Town because.. Well, just because you say he/she is. Of course, there's also the fact that things apparently just flowed "naturally" out of Haru when he/she admitted to being blue/green vt (According to you) and now you're willing to protect him/her against anything and everything now.

Nice logic there. Flawed and something that I'd never, ever do because it just does not make sense.

On September 27 2014 04:09 Holyflare wrote:
i don't think you're paying any attention to anything at all storr it's pretty bad

On September 27 2014 04:34 HaruRH wrote:
Right, everyone should switch to superbia now. He basically claimed scum.

On September 27 2014 05:13 SkyDragon wrote:
I thought it's quite apparent what I'm pushing - That both Town and Scum can use real-world excuses for long periods of absence. You're now saying that you defended Haru because he wasn't around, which is fair enough but I don't see any reason as to why anyone would bother defending anyone on Day 1 since he could be scum trying to hide. He's obviously visiting this thread at least once a day so doesn't need anyone to speak for him or defend him. I thought that all of this is pretty obvious.

I'm not trumping up anything that I haven't already said before.

On September 27 2014 07:03 batsnacks wrote:
I want to give sky another day. Would lynch Superbia because of everything HF said, but I'm keeping my vote on GB for now.

On September 27 2014 07:29 Holyflare wrote:
can we vote hopeless now

On September 27 2014 05:37 SkyDragon wrote:


Bolded for what follows:

On September 27 2014 07:55 SkyDragon wrote:
You know Storr, I just noticed that when things don't go your way, you seem to really take it personally. It's a bit childish. I think your vote on me is simply just to remove anyone calling you out and making you look like scum. Were I to be lynched, I think it's highly likely that GB will be your next target for Day 2 (Or Day 3 if you don't want to make it obvious).

On September 27 2014 08:03 SkyDragon wrote:
I was implying that you were scum trying to take out anyone who made you look like it. Were me and GB taken out, the rest of the game would be easy for you and the Wolves. You have half the town wrapped around your little finger and you've already stated earlier that you're playing to win.

On September 27 2014 08:13 batsnacks wrote:


I just went and re read your filter. This is the first time you've said GB was town. How do you know GB is town?

On September 27 2014 08:13 SkyDragon wrote:
I don't, but he's suspicious of Storr like I am. If Storr actually is scum, then GB is Town. My only real obstacle to showing that I really am a Villager has been Storr. He's taken a very active role since the start of d1 and has effectively told others who is Town and who isn't, who should be lynched and who shouldn't be, whose readings to take seriously and whose readings are nonsense. He's basically manipulating a large number of people to see things in the way that he wants them to see things. It's scummy to me.

On September 27 2014 08:18 justanothertownie wrote:

omg... what you are describing right there is good townplay. Nothing scummy in the slightest about that.

On September 27 2014 08:25 Holyflare wrote:


wut

On September 27 2014 08:28 GlowingBear wrote:
JAT I'm town this game and I'm just saying things that comes to my mind. As I'm going to get mislynched at least I'm dropping some suspicions for people to follow day2. That is what I'm doing.
I'm still waiting for your good town play, because your town play is good, but it never came to the game.

Yet people are keeping their votes on me instead of killing hopeless who has brought nothing to the game. I'm doing this. If you find it terrible, I don't care. I heard it enough to know I'm not good at this game. Yet I'm playing, and while I'm playing, I'm trying.

On September 27 2014 08:30 Holyflare wrote:


all you've done is copy a post that another player has made and then did some silly commentary thing

On September 28 2014 00:46 Killing wrote:
Me and snatbacks vs the world

On September 28 2014 01:12 Holyflare wrote:


i didn't base it on activity at all in the slightest another mark in the storr not reading giant book of terrible

On September 28 2014 08:35 SkyDragon wrote:
I'm out of here as well. I may or may not come back and check in tomorrow since my lynch vote is staying on Killing till the end of d2 over what happened earlier.

On September 29 2014 06:32 SkyDragon wrote:
Being lynched will actually be a relief, to be honest. I'm actually going to bed now because I have no faith in the Town so don't care which way it goes.

If I've learned anything from this game, it's that I know exactly whose readings to ignore in the future (Provided they end the game as confirmed Town). If they're Mafia, I'll be commending them for the stress they put me through.

On September 29 2014 07:53 Holyflare wrote:
What happened to thoughts on me

On September 29 2014 07:58 Holyflare wrote:
Your read is so stale and fake it hurts

On September 29 2014 08:09 Holyflare wrote:
Storr you literally haven't read this game at all

On September 29 2014 08:09 justanothertownie wrote:

Yeah, since being cop automatically means you are right all the time. Like what?

On September 29 2014 08:16 Holyflare wrote:
Like i don't know why you keep scum reading me for this same point. If it wasn't a lie show me where in my case i was wrong. The thing is you can't.

On September 29 2014 08:16 justanothertownie wrote:
You are making your own application for being the lynch right now.

However, I've marked in red the scummy part. He said GB is still his top scum read. For this to change that must mean that not only does Hopeless actually HAVE mobile phone reception to be able to catch up to the thread (he has been lying in that case) but he furthermore hasn't posted ANYTHING since then. So in order to form the read on skydragon he had to have been able to post as well and he didn't. That's the scummy part.

On September 29 2014 08:29 justanothertownie wrote:

+ He is voting for me. You know, the guy who has been pushing mafia Skydragon all day.

On September 29 2014 08:27 Holyflare wrote:


So your bull shit here is that i pushed the wagon off mafia sky dragon 20 minutes before deadline because i was happy to just let him die the entirety of the day and could predict that hopeless would return at deadline and do his bull shit?

You're useless

On September 29 2014 08:25 Holyflare wrote:
I find it hard to believe that superbia would forget what he had written about you as a towny and his reads today are kind of odd. I haven't really done anything today at all and he super town read me. He's not my main focus though because his emotion did seem kind of honest yesterday.

On September 29 2014 08:36 batsnacks wrote:
##unvote

I wish I could hold town hostage and force you all to vote Palmar.

On September 29 2014 08:39 batsnacks wrote:
I'll unvote you if you vote Palmar, but only then.

On September 29 2014 08:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I don't get it. Holyflare is mafia for pushing a mafia after a townie?

On September 29 2014 08:42 batsnacks wrote:
Can we get a wagon going on someone who is actually mafia, like Storr?

On September 29 2014 08:45 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Because I'm looking at this, and it looks really dumb.

Why can't a scum!Holyflare push a lynch hard? Why is it only okay if Sky flips town? Why is it bad if Holyflare lynches mafia? Why wouldn't scum!Holyflare care?


If sky is town. I don't see why a scum holy cares. to make up shit and force a new lynch when sky or hopeless at this point could be lynched. 50/50 shot imo. It was a lot of effort in my eyes to force the lynch to landslide to hopeless
The way I'm looking at this is that it looks like you're just trying to open up alternative wagons that can't possibly gain traction after the Sky wagon took off.

On September 29 2014 08:47 Holyflare wrote:
Like apparently I'm voting for sky and today i don't give a shit about him dying. I literally said he should die for the info but you know. If he flips town I'm totes town????????? Wut

On September 29 2014 08:47 batsnacks wrote:


Yeah and I've been climbing glaciers in Nevada.

On September 29 2014 08:50 batsnacks wrote:


Go convince yourself scum I've said enough about Palmar today.

On September 28 2014 05:10 Palmar wrote:
Also for what it's worth, I sincerely fucking hope our cop checked Holyflare last night. I am in no mood to argue with him for 15 pages, but there is a chance he is mafia. There's something off about his play here, he's just not.... being smart and analytical enough for my taste.

On September 28 2014 05:16 Palmar wrote:

Nope, Icelandic is my first language.

On September 28 2014 07:40 Palmar wrote:
Yeah policy lynching Killing for this.

On September 29 2014 09:14 Holyflare wrote:


Go back to afking. You don't even want to lynch your scum read sky. The person you are scum reading me for switching a wagon off him.

On September 29 2014 09:22 Superbia wrote:
I don't think Palmar is scum here, should just stick with the vote for today.

On September 29 2014 09:27 Holyflare wrote:


No. It's the only thing you've done and you're basing it off 5 minutes. We spent the entirety of 36 hours discussing which you weren't here for. You're literally repeating everything we've already said (but you're still scum reading me lol) and your only other 2 scum reads you don't even want to vote for despite them being the only things you were actually involved in.

On September 29 2014 09:30 Superbia wrote:


I'm not convinced man. The whole icelandic thing and the policy lynches thing are both really weak. His fake post? Makes sense from my perspective. The only thing you have on him is the sudden townread on you, which is in no way alignment indicative enough for me to switch. Like do you have any other substantial reads? How did you even switch to Palmar that quickly?

On September 29 2014 09:34 Superbia wrote:


There are a lot of players right now who aren't fucking caring about EoD. Why palmar over sky or haru?

On September 29 2014 09:36 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Palmar was (and probably still is) here. He basically just showed up just enough to profit off of what's going on whereas Sky and Haru could be 100% afk, and you simply have no way of knowing the difference.

None of the scummy people want to lynch Palmar.

The answer: kill Palmar.

On September 29 2014 09:34 batsnacks wrote:
At this rate mafia will kill me tonight instead of the cop. Not like he's a threat anyway.

On September 29 2014 09:41 Holyflare wrote:
It's 3am for palmar i don't think i ever see him up this late

On September 29 2014 09:40 batsnacks wrote:


I voted SkyDragon and said if he doesn't vote Palmar than I would never unvote him. He never voted Palmar. Mafia would have voted Palmar.

On September 29 2014 05:30 Palmar wrote:

Can I call you bad if he flips town?

On September 29 2014 09:53 Superbia wrote:
Like you literally barge into the thread and within 20 minutes you want Palmar to get lynched. I've just reread his filter and also quickly skimmed his prev game's d2 filter. I'm still not convinced. I don't know what the fuck you're expecting.

On September 29 2014 09:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
If palmar flips town we lose someone who's posts don't drip with scum like 95% of sky's filter.

On September 29 2014 09:59 Holyflare wrote:
Storr shouldn't give a shit which wagon we're on if he scum reads both

On September 29 2014 23:34 justanothertownie wrote:

lol wut
How the hell would Killing know that bats was cop?

On September 29 2014 23:40 justanothertownie wrote:

If you thought that soft was real you would not have believed that bats had a redcheck on Palmar but on HF.
/dunked

On September 29 2014 23:41 justanothertownie wrote:

He actively tried to NOT get you lynched yesterday. Saying you think someone is scummy does not equal trying to lynch him.

On September 29 2014 23:45 SkyDragon wrote:


So, he never tried lynching me but only didn't try lynching me yesterday when he was absent anyway, but wanted to and would've if he had the chance to?

Are you even listening to yourself?

On September 29 2014 23:45 Holyflare wrote:
Which was evidently proving he wasnt the fucking cop.

On September 29 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:

Yeah, but the "soft" was a redcheck on HF. If you believe he is cop for that you can't think that he has a redcheck on Palmar.

On September 29 2014 23:50 Holyflare wrote:
Like you're literally bringing up a NEW reason for lynching palmar and then saying why did i follow??

On September 30 2014 00:02 Holyflare wrote:
Like batsnacks quite literally votes me abd only votes palmar AFTER he does the policy stuff and then gets wound up enough to yell he's not actually the seer. Yet. You thought that made him the seer but you JUST SAID YOU THOUGHT KILLING WAS THE SEER.

On September 30 2014 00:03 justanothertownie wrote:
True. If you caught Killings cop play day1 why the hell would you assume batsnacks is cop.

On September 30 2014 00:09 justanothertownie wrote:
I'll be back in a few hours. Looking forward to the "analysis" Skydragon is going to provide.

On September 30 2014 00:12 Holyflare wrote:
Absolutely not storr. You would have seen about 4 people analyse why killimg was the cop. He added hopeless to his town circle day 1 based on nothing and defended him and the same with batsnacks early in the day. Why did you think batsnacks was the cop when it was obvious killing was?

On September 30 2014 00:36 Holyflare wrote:


Yes actually

On September 30 2014 05:26 batsnacks wrote:
FF if I could afford to gamble, I'd be gambling that HF rage was disingenuous.

I can't afford to gamble though.

On September 27 2014 22:33 HaruRH wrote:


Alright, this vote count is more accurate than yamato's final vote count.

I am going to make some assumptions here:

1) You just have to accept that I am town.
2) Almost all wolf were on hopeless. It is NOT possible that all the wolf were superbia,killing storrZerg. However, there certainly is 1 or 2 wolf amongst these 3.

States most wolves would be on hopeless, yet thinks a possible 2 within 3 people. feels odd to think this way from a town perspective.

2 wolfies between:
Palmar, Holyflare, batsnacks, skydragon, fecalfeast, justanothertownie.

1 wolf between: Killing, storrZerg, superbia.

We now have it restated that we only have 1 wolf now between these 3. When earlier it could have been 2. I think this comes from a mafia perspective, trying to force out what should be correct, while avoiding "reading" people.

I distributed my wolfreads as such because 1) mafia always try to vote on the largest wagon to not feel left out. 2)at least/most 1 mafia would split off and vote some random player.

I am very certain that glowingbear was killed because he was right. There was no way they killed him for the lulz when there is HF,palmar, jat etc as town. He is also not overwhelmingly town. In fact, he smelt scum to me for a while.

The assurance that GB was right. Yet only talking about the mafia reads on gb. Not the town reads. This seems like forced information about the dead. Directed, specific. I find it interesting that he lists off townies as HF palmar jat as "town"what chance did any of these 3 have to die in the night for n1? holy pushed a wrong lynch very hard, palmar we now know is town, jat wasn't super active, nor did he push a correct direction. So why did any of these 3 mean anything more than GB from haru's perspective.

His wolf reads were: killing, storrzerg, batsnacks
This is very interesting, i think we now know why GB was killed. All his mafia reads are wrong. Killing was cop, bats has been green checked, and i'm town. GB was clearly not on the right track, he was not killed because of how well he was scum hunting. He was killed for how off track he was, and how town he looked.
I am going to say that i too think killing was wolf. Not superbia.

I am also going to say that HF is maybe town. But i still need to see what he is going to do.

Therefore, my lynchlist for d2 is(in order of scumminess):
Killing
batsnacks
skydragon


I'm really not sure why haru has been leaving me out so much. Have i been avoiding haru? yes, defending on policy sure. logically i should be in here. Even on day 3, haru keeps "forgetting about me"

I am still unsure of skydragon and less unsure of batsnacks, but i am quite sure of killing. Lets lynch him. It will reveal tons of info too even if he flip town.

What would we have learned at this point if he flips town? At this point in time, he had been fairly low key, had pointed out quite a few town reads, had a few mafia reads. As a town, if i had stated something like this, wouldn't it also be important to let others know what we would learn? there is no follow up to this, even though he wasn't lynched, he did die in the night, he did have reads, yet haru doesn't follow up or give input to what we should have learned.

On September 29 2014 22:42 HaruRH wrote:


Killing obviously had a red on JAT. If you guys don't lynch him now, the game is over.

On September 30 2014 05:46 batsnacks wrote:


You pay better attention to the voting thread than you do this thread. I really like my odds with you.

On September 30 2014 06:58 Fecalfeast wrote:
So am I the only one who thinks maybe we should lynch the guy we've been trying to lynch all game?

On September 30 2014 07:02 batsnacks wrote:


He did have an opportunity to switch to Palmar. Not that he needed to in the end but he didn't know that. I think mafia votes Palmar in that position.

On September 30 2014 07:32 justanothertownie wrote:
Whatever. Going to bed,
We need to lynch scum today and I think our best odds for that are killing Sky or Storrzerg.

On September 30 2014 07:33 justanothertownie wrote:

Maybe he just wasn't around? To me it seemed that he had already given up at that point.

On September 29 2014 23:24 justanothertownie wrote:
Like Storrs reasoning for pushing Palmar is so wrong it can't be unintentional. And you are calling him town for it.
why not? my reason ended up being wrong. It wasn't that far fetch from my stand point, i have high expectations from killing .

On September 29 2014 23:28 justanothertownie wrote:

Nothing here makes sense. Palmar talked about the language because he was ASKED about it. He always talks about policies and Storr should know that since he was in the last game where this was a discussed issue.
yeah, so you bring up the game where i was mafia, and clearly not giving a rats ass what was going on. I do remember him being bitched at for not doing more policy stuff.

Palmar was the only one who took the time to analyse multiple people without being poked to do so or them being on the chopping block. If there was someone that did things to progress the game -> Palmar.
You don't have to agree with his reads. I didn't either. But saying that Palmar did nothing is just asinine.
ok. thats after the fact. its all ready been stated that my push on palmar was super trumped up, because of the scenario that was flying in my head. i didnt see you defending palmar near that point. in fact you seem to be very much ok with the whole ordeal thats going on.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/467273-2p2-vanilla-werewolf-13er?page=83#1648
i mean you obviously feel very strongly about this point, i just can't believe you would be waiting to bring it up. hell i tried pushing you, so you had to be paying attention, you could have been fighting with what i was doing, yet you sat back and even provoked the situation with that post.

Palmar gave reads. Probably more of them than anyone else here.