2p2 Vanilla Werewolf 13er

On September 21 2014 10:47 yamato77 wrote:
Are people pushed away by the shorter cycles?

On September 25 2014 02:27 Damdred wrote:
can't wait to see everyone destroy themselves!

On September 25 2014 08:13 Hopeless1der wrote:
By "that" I meant get people to follow your policy lynch. You can vote whoever the hell you want.

On September 25 2014 08:49 GlowingBear wrote:


Hi! I have a feeling that there is a mafia between you and holyflare.

Why not both?

On September 25 2014 09:01 Fecalfeast wrote:
Do they often dislike each other?

On September 25 2014 09:04 GlowingBear wrote:


My case?

On September 25 2014 09:27 SkyDragon wrote:
Actually, all three of them claimed to be Town from the off, and HF decided to throw some names out as well (When barely anyone had posted and probably to deflect suspicion from himself). Just thinking out loud.

On September 25 2014 09:46 GlowingBear wrote:
Holyflare knows I'm town because he is good enough to read me when I'm being town.

Asking about holyflare's case to everyone is my way to get people talking and getting reads from them.

On September 25 2014 11:22 Fecalfeast wrote:

Hey there, I wasn't mafia last game and what'd I do?

On September 25 2014 11:28 GlowingBear wrote:


Because I want people talking about people so I can get reads.

On September 25 2014 11:29 Fecalfeast wrote:


I know you weren't addressing me but you made it seem like nobody but mafia would play the newbie card.

I am a contrarian by nature, you'll have to forgive me for nitpicking.

Is contrarian not a word? It is making chrome's spell check mad.

On September 25 2014 11:42 Fecalfeast wrote:


Looool why would I respect you enough to apologize for real?

On September 26 2014 09:30 SkyDragon wrote:


That's true. I was making my reply to him (Thoroughly checking his comments) but noticed that he generally became less aggressive as the game has continued. My main issues with him still are that

- He confirmed himself and insisted that he was Town in his very first post
- He started pointing fingers at FF and GB within minutes of his first post
- He stated that ObiWan was probably Town, even though the guy had barely said anything of relevance at that stage

On September 26 2014 09:38 GlowingBear wrote:


I'm bad, so... Bad news to you

On September 26 2014 09:51 Fecalfeast wrote:
Those are different numbers

On September 26 2014 11:37 Hopeless1der wrote:

some people play like that and I'm not inclined to check if thats killing's style. I've seen it from both factions, but the reason I dont think he's scum (yet) is that he had strong scumreads that would force him to take a stand and justify himself later on.

On September 26 2014 11:40 Hopeless1der wrote:
obi wtf is wishywashy about that? Here I'll reduce it to the basic idea:

- killing has scumreads within list post: town points

On September 26 2014 12:16 StorrZerg wrote:
killing about his list post.

tends to do this in video mafia, just listing a town circle. in video mafia, you don't have much time, can't always explain everything in as much detail as you would like.

Just pressure him to respond to the reads. He gave some detail, on a few, so i can't see why he would be hiding on the others.

On September 26 2014 21:21 Holyflare wrote:
yes

On September 26 2014 21:37 justanothertownie wrote:
Why do you think HF is particularly untrustworthy this game?

On September 26 2014 21:38 Palmar wrote:
i'm just counting on our cop not being retarded and checking HF tonight. I honestly don't care about him all that much.

On September 26 2014 21:42 Holyflare wrote:


when did this happen...?

On September 26 2014 21:43 Holyflare wrote:


how did i misrepresent any meta!? wtf

On September 26 2014 21:45 justanothertownie wrote:

What is he supposed to do against thread stagnation/how could he possibly make it stagnate? I am also a superactive player but it is really hard to post/get something going this game for some reason.

On September 26 2014 21:51 Holyflare wrote:
i don't really remember the last early meta case i made as mafia all i remember was doing it to wave as town last and he was mafia so you're wrong with YOUR meta anyway

On September 27 2014 09:43 Holyflare wrote:



....?

On September 27 2014 09:48 Holyflare wrote:


which was different but didn't mean anything after i found out he played last game with me

On September 27 2014 09:48 GlowingBear wrote:
Hopeless will flip green, is rather lynch someone else really fast

On September 27 2014 09:49 batsnacks wrote:
I would vote GB though

On September 27 2014 09:51 Killing wrote:
HOPELESS BW IS FUCKING BAD PLEASE ALL OFF

On September 27 2014 23:01 batsnacks wrote:
Palmar do you agree with what HF just said?

On September 27 2014 23:33 Palmar wrote:
Right. Everyone should be lynching batsnacks for basically shutting down discussion while we clear this fucking mess up.

On September 28 2014 03:31 batsnacks wrote:
I'm not being antitown. I found mafia. I don't care if you don't like how I did it.

On September 28 2014 03:38 batsnacks wrote:
Obiwan please claim mafia so I can vote you.

On September 28 2014 03:43 batsnacks wrote:
The mess I made found at least 1 scum. I am thrilled with the results.

On September 28 2014 04:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
If one of them actually is scum, the "case" that you posted certainly isn't why.

On September 28 2014 04:21 Fecalfeast wrote:
So palmar's line of thought seems like mental gymnastics to me. Batsnacks could have been a bit more cooperative, sure but all he said is "I feel like HF is mafia but idk why" I don't think that sounds like a redcheck. Why would seer even bother beating around the bush? If you really got a redcheck, wouldn't you claim it? The worst case, mafia counterclaims you and you have at least one guaranteed scum.

So from this, we can infer that batsnacks in not the seer. Good talk, everyone.

On September 28 2014 04:26 Fecalfeast wrote:

except GB*

On September 28 2014 04:28 Holyflare wrote:


at least they were arguing about what they were doing in that game and other games, in this game he was intentionally dragging out the whole thing even though palmar was clearly impatient

On September 28 2014 04:53 justanothertownie wrote:

Quite the other way round.

On September 28 2014 07:35 Killing wrote:
Honestly,I was gonna fake a red on someone but this game is so terrible I don't even feel like giving a fuck. n0 hopeless n1 bats peace i'm out gl finding the mafia

On September 28 2014 14:31 HaruRH wrote:
... i suddenly don't feel like lynching killing even though he is my top scumread.
I just feel the 'i can't express myself well so i give up' feel from killing.

On September 28 2014 23:13 justanothertownie wrote:

You too. Who should we lynch today and why?

On September 28 2014 23:30 justanothertownie wrote:

Ok. What about Sky?

On September 28 2014 23:52 Palmar wrote:
Btw why was GB killed?

It's dumb speculation but I'm still interested.

On September 28 2014 23:51 SkyDragon wrote:


If you had read that comment properly, you'd have noticed that those people are only suspects were Killing actually Mafia.

On September 29 2014 03:48 Superbia wrote:
That's weird, you're willing to bus both your team mates?

On September 29 2014 03:54 batsnacks wrote:
Let's keep it pg-13 people I don't even want to know what "wagoning oneself" means.

On September 29 2014 03:55 Superbia wrote:
I'm indirectly asking how sure you are on Haru.

On September 29 2014 04:08 Superbia wrote:
Where's Storr?

On September 29 2014 04:19 SkyDragon wrote:
Okay, I know where this is going so I may as well get some things out of the way.

To other Townies (This isn't directed at the clueless ones voting to lynch me), make sure you look at who jumped on the "SkyDragon lynch" train. Not necessarily who started the train (Because it could've been clueless Townies starting it) but those who jumped on board and made it seem as though they agree with the reasons. After all, Mafia has no reason to start vote trains on anyone and expose themselves like that.

- JAT hasn't really done much all game in my view
- Storr has been suspicious to me since the start of the game
- Obi hasn't really done much either and what I said about JAT in a previous post about an hour or two ago, you can probably apply to this guy as well
- Just can't seem to accept Haru's excuse for the blue/green Villager stuff. I thought I had but I haven't.

JAT, Storr, Obi and Haru would be the ones I'd keep my eyes on.

On September 29 2014 04:26 SkyDragon wrote:
Those 4 are the ones I think are more likely than others to be scum.

On September 29 2014 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar is town reading people based off of the most God awful things. It's not just 1 person either it's like 5 people.

Also, have you seen haru play scum? It was awful. I literally hated every post that he typed... Much better here despite the lack of activity.

On September 29 2014 06:44 Fecalfeast wrote:

Maybe that's why he's not posting. He knows how good you are and is admitting defeat.

On September 29 2014 08:37 StorrZerg wrote:


i agree, which is why i believe no wagon truly formed on him.

if all three of sky/hopless/super all happen to be town. Where does mafia hide then.

Its unlikely you care that much as mafia to push either which way, i'd probably say if sky flips town you look ok as a townie. You ended up pushing pretty hard. I don't see you as mafia caring that much. If sky flips red, i think it damns you.

Thats where i am at.

On September 29 2014 08:39 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


I don't get it. Holyflare is mafia for pushing a mafia after a townie?

On September 29 2014 08:43 StorrZerg wrote:


im my little head. I don't think he really pushed sky. I feel the trumped up "lies" makes people think someone is a lot more scummier than they are. Hence why hopeless got lynched..

You defended it well. Hopeless had been afk/ connection issues w/e can't really defend.

After his post "damning" hopeless, the wagon swung huge. vote could have easily and should have been sky.

On September 29 2014 08:53 Palmar wrote:
Lynch haru. I rescind townread on Obi. Sky is probably town and so is Storr.

JAT is actually probably town, HF I'm less sure about.

good night.

On September 29 2014 09:01 batsnacks wrote:
Who wants to vote JAT? I am down for spite lynching anyone not voting Palmar.

On September 29 2014 09:02 batsnacks wrote:


Want to vote JAT? I'm serious.

On September 29 2014 09:11 justanothertownie wrote:
Like I haven't heard a single argument for why sky could be town today. Only "so many people are scumreading him so he must be town" which is stupid and I bet the people saying it did not read his posts today.

On September 29 2014 09:27 Holyflare wrote:


No. It's the only thing you've done and you're basing it off 5 minutes. We spent the entirety of 36 hours discussing which you weren't here for. You're literally repeating everything we've already said (but you're still scum reading me lol) and your only other 2 scum reads you don't even want to vote for despite them being the only things you were actually involved in.

On September 29 2014 09:34 Superbia wrote:


There are a lot of players right now who aren't fucking caring about EoD. Why palmar over sky or haru?

On September 29 2014 09:37 Fecalfeast wrote:
What if SkyDragon is in on some elaborate mafia plan to post like shit all day to keep town occupied, then have the wagon derailed right at the end.... I think the weed's got me paranoid.

On September 29 2014 09:40 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm gonna be so pissed if I find out I was right all along and kept getting mind controlled.

On September 29 2014 09:43 Fecalfeast wrote:
I am very conflicted right now. Someone else tell me I'm crazy for thinking mafia team is laughing at us townies right now..

On September 29 2014 09:45 Holyflare wrote:
No it's stupid people waiting till 30minutes before deadline till they want to switch to a new undiscussed target. Obi complains every game how last minute switches are useless and lynch town, still wants to lynch palmar last minute

On September 29 2014 09:49 Superbia wrote:
Just read his filter and I can see where the read is coming from, but fuck off. This is not indicative enough to justify a sudden switch. We're not even giving him a chance to defend himself. We kill sky here.

On September 29 2014 09:54 Holyflare wrote:
Where did jat go?

On September 29 2014 09:55 Fecalfeast wrote:
They call me flip-flops the magical vote switcher

On September 29 2014 09:57 Fecalfeast wrote:
If palmar flips town we lose someone who's posts don't drip with scum like 95% of sky's filter.

On September 30 2014 09:53 SkyDragon wrote:
I've already told you what I was told. If you want to try and find it yourself with the available information, be my guest but I won't discuss it any further. After all, we're playing a game (Well, barely.. Hopefully I won't decide to quit again for the 3rd time) and how I played elsewhere has no relevance to how I'm playing here, trying to find Mafia or this game.

On September 30 2014 10:58 StorrZerg wrote:
Seems like much of the games are clue based. Saw some meta talk. Pretty low post counts, not much content.

Is this Skydragon's first game on tl? He certainly has evolved from the games on sk.

On September 30 2014 11:03 Fecalfeast wrote:


I was caught up in the peer pressure, realized that I had the same thing happen D1 and decided to, although after some flip-flopping, stick to my initial read.

If he does I'm pushing you all day tomorrow but my vote stays on skydragon.

If sky flips town HF and Super are super scumballs but I wont have another last minute derail into town. No.

On September 30 2014 10:59 Holyflare wrote:
I think it's time we switch to haru

On September 30 2014 11:21 Holyflare wrote:
Yes well sky at this point in time is a giant question mark that's leaning on the side of super scummy but there are 2 other partners if he is mafia and 3 mafia if he's town so there's a way better chance at focusing discussion on not skydragon than this continual cycle of is he or isn't he mafia.

On September 30 2014 23:53 justanothertownie wrote:

Hello.

On October 01 2014 00:18 justanothertownie wrote:

Uhm, what?

On September 30 2014 12:08 HaruRH wrote:


I'm not interested to tell you why, and i am asked not to /replace, so here i am again.

On October 01 2014 00:31 justanothertownie wrote:

You asked each of them a question or 2 and that was basically it. Next to no input from yourself.

On October 01 2014 00:34 Holyflare wrote:
Yamato asked for a replacement in thread earlier.

On October 01 2014 00:55 Holyflare wrote:


This is a recurring theme for him

On October 01 2014 00:58 Holyflare wrote:
No i didn't, it's been pretty irrelevant all game

On October 01 2014 09:51 Holyflare wrote:
absolutely nothing about sky's alignment but if sky dies today and flips town then we are in lylo and lynching haru in lylo is seriously dangerous even if haru looks scummy

On October 01 2014 09:55 Holyflare wrote:


that's absolutely not true because haru is linked to pretty much NOBODY in the game

On October 02 2014 01:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
I just filtered Superbia - he feels like he's trying to figure out the game.

What is your issue with how FF acted at EoD Obi?

On October 02 2014 01:37 StorrZerg wrote:

Do you agree with my logic on who to look at?

Does that logic hold true from your point of view

On October 02 2014 01:42 VisceraEyes wrote:

Is this what you're referring to?

On October 02 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:

You of all people should know best that you cannot townread people for doing something in LYLO. You have to look at the actual reasoning and Storr has none. If you townread him for different reasons then that is fair enough but if he is reading you town only for being on Palmar then that doesn't add up.

On October 02 2014 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:

Because Storr was already on a PASSING townie wagon in Sky unless I'm missing something. That means that he had to draw attention to himself by switching wagons, DRAW FURTHER ATTENTION to himself by making huge posts on the matter, and then STILL look bad because Palmar flipped town WHICH HE WOULD KNOW.

YOU on the other hand were NOT on a wagon. You hadn't chosen a side, so when you finally do choose a side it doesn't look AS suspicious on the surface...but given the flip, it makes it look like you were just going with the flow and voting on the easiest mislynch at the time.

On October 02 2014 02:18 justanothertownie wrote:

Pretty rich to attack a new replacement of not having read the game.

On October 02 2014 02:35 VisceraEyes wrote:

Maybe, but you didn't.

Further, in spite of Sky being a SUPER HARD TOWNREAD, you were the LAST on his wagon yesterday.

Get rektum scum. <3

On October 02 2014 02:41 VisceraEyes wrote:

Because you JUST claimed (indignantly) that "if you'd read the thread you'd know that Sky has been my top mafia read all game"....if that's the case then why weren't you in here HARD pushing him ALL DAY? Why wasn't your vote INSTANTLY on Sky yesterday? TOWNIES who have hard mafia reads VOTE on them. MAFIA who have "hard mafia reads" want to see if the wagon is going to take off before voting.

On October 02 2014 14:47 Fecalfeast wrote:

hullo

On October 03 2014 08:07 StorrZerg wrote:
Care to comment on superbia

On October 03 2014 08:08 StorrZerg wrote:


Go on..

BTW superbia comment read is directed at ve.

You are welcome to comment on it obi

On October 03 2014 08:08 StorrZerg wrote:


Go on..

BTW superbia comment read is directed at ve.

You are welcome to comment on it obi

On October 03 2014 08:56 Fecalfeast wrote:

I voted you before I went to bed to try and spark new discussions. I see that it wasn't such a good idea now.

On October 03 2014 09:08 StorrZerg wrote:
obi who you voting for

On October 03 2014 09:25 Fecalfeast wrote:




make up your mind

so scum, why did you kill hf over bats

On October 03 2014 10:03 Holyflare wrote:
btw i thought haru was probably town over the night and i wrote a massive post about the scum team not including haru and i was going to solid town read storr too


gj for shooting me, bastards, wasted so much time -.-

On October 03 2014 10:11 yamato77 wrote:

I talked about this, and it isn't.

You win FOR FREE if I don't. That is worse.

On October 03 2014 10:11 Holyflare wrote:
i feel like this really would be town favoured if our cop wasn't a dipstick, although the silent nights really are helpful to mafia

On October 03 2014 10:16 yamato77 wrote:
I told him not to do this, obi.

On October 03 2014 10:30 justanothertownie wrote:

If you had been in the game from the start and played the way you did then town probably wouldn't have lost so hard.

On October 03 2014 12:08 Fecalfeast wrote:
Obi I'm pretty sure I said that if you turned out to be mafia I was never trusting you again... (digs own filter)

Yep.

I hope I remember next game I play with you

On October 03 2014 12:11 Superbia wrote:
Tbh I felt like my defense was pretty good, and my initial reads did make sense from a town perspective, I just didn't explain them well enough (e.g. I gave people shit for hopping on the skydragon train, which was misconstrued as "voting for" skydragon). This is why I could harp on the whole "read my filter" shit. Like yeah, I was mafia, but my reads didn't show that (afaik).

On October 03 2014 12:37 Superbia wrote:
The StoreRead is real dude! I'm glad I never actually had to elaborate on it. But it was a genuine town read. Like every read was genuine, but I guess I did things a little too fast. First mafia game etc.