2p2 Vanilla Werewolf 13er

On September 25 2014 03:28 Blazinghand wrote:
/in

I'm from the government, and I'm here to help.

On September 25 2014 05:21 GlowingBear wrote:


Lol damdy are you trying to say that the game hasn't even started yet and I'm already playing bad?

On September 25 2014 08:04 Holyflare wrote:
im a vanillager or some shit

On September 25 2014 08:05 batsnacks wrote:
Does seer already know someone's alignment? This sample PM makes it seem like yes?

On September 25 2014 08:11 Palmar wrote:
##VOTE Holyflare

Policy lynch for claiming. Never changing it.

On September 25 2014 08:10 Holyflare wrote:


is this guy confirmed town or something now

On September 25 2014 08:34 Superbia wrote:
Surprisingly decent for a <1 hour case. But don't forget the fact that Haru was actually not VT in that game.

On September 25 2014 09:23 StorrZerg wrote:


you kept the troll up. 100% full force.
i'll lynch you with fire scum

On September 25 2014 09:37 GlowingBear wrote:


You know I'm not.

That makes you suspicious.

On September 25 2014 10:18 GlowingBear wrote:
Ok

Glowningbear's first scum team guess: Haru, HF, Storr

Gonna have dinner and give reasons

On September 25 2014 10:55 SkyDragon wrote:
Probably to get people talking. I'd say it's working.

On September 25 2014 10:54 GlowingBear wrote:
I think HF is scum because of this (plus gut feelings):

He brings this very early case on Haru:



Good case huh? Better continue pushing Haru because this is so scummy, right?
No.



He goes after Haru for his ENTRANCE POST, makes a hard case on him, and considers overlooking it? Notice that he doesn't push Haru anymore. Doesn't make questions or anything. Just drops the case and goes to "oh look, GB is scum!".

This makes me think HF could be scum, adding my other interactions with him.

On September 25 2014 11:04 GlowingBear wrote:


Wait until I finish the quotation. Doing it on the phone is extremely high.

On September 25 2014 11:13 SkyDragon wrote:


Nah, I'm from another site (SK) where this game was played frequently with 20-25 players per game (Not as many people playing anymore though). It feels different playing here but I'm also happy to be here and be playing with you guys.

On SK, claiming you're good or throwing accusations around early on got you lynched on the first day (Hence my earlier remarks) but people see these things differently here so I'm still trying to adjust. It's a little difficult because I've never played with any of you guys before so have a hard time reading all of you but time and experience will change that. Hopefully I'm a pro by the end of this game, haha

On September 25 2014 11:19 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Ugh, this SkyDragon guy is making me super fucking paranoid.

Who puts so much emphasis on their newness besides mafia? Posts like that are going to make sure nobody listens to you.

On September 25 2014 11:21 GlowingBear wrote:


So, talk about them? Lol...

On September 25 2014 11:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


You didn't put as much emphasis on it I guess? Most people had you pegged as a smurf because you carried yourself with confidence.

(Also I'm not addressing you in this post. >.>)

On September 25 2014 11:40 GlowingBear wrote:


LOL this is off. Although it's true we joked, your apologies this game does not sound like you're joking, man.

On September 26 2014 03:15 Killing wrote:


Exactly what mafia wants town to think.......

On September 26 2014 08:02 SkyDragon wrote:
Seer is welcome to spy on me, I have nothing to hide.

On September 26 2014 09:30 SkyDragon wrote:


That's true. I was making my reply to him (Thoroughly checking his comments) but noticed that he generally became less aggressive as the game has continued. My main issues with him still are that

- He confirmed himself and insisted that he was Town in his very first post
- He started pointing fingers at FF and GB within minutes of his first post
- He stated that ObiWan was probably Town, even though the guy had barely said anything of relevance at that stage

On September 26 2014 09:33 SkyDragon wrote:
I still think he's suspicious though but am far more suspicious of Bat now simply because he refused to defend himself against my accusations.

On September 26 2014 09:43 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I approve of FF's post.

The one question I have: what does SkyDragon gain by suddenly distancing himself away from his main scumread for little to no reason?

On September 26 2014 09:59 Holyflare wrote:


TBD

On September 27 2014 07:05 Superbia wrote:
GlowingBear - I don't fucking know. I keep rereading your filter and I keep switching between leaning town and leaning scum. Why the fuck did you support the push on me but never elaborated on it? I feel you're all over the place but I have no idea how to read it.

FecalFeast - GB called you out for your "confident/apologetic" excuse, but you never actually responded to it (afaik). Reading back I might've actually misread the context due to how filters worked, so the point I made about that is moot. I'm not going to back off from "resistance", because said "resistance" was misreading what I was saying, intentional or not. The point that you're passive as fuck still stays. I don't think you're trying to solve the game, you're just repeating what other people have been saying. That being said, I don't fucking know at this point in time. I hope someone points out some obvious slip before I go to sleep because I'm too fucking tired to find new shit to pursue at this point.

On September 27 2014 07:43 Superbia wrote:


Let me know if I'm misreading you here. You admit to being scummy by sheeping, but it doesn't matter because I am reading your posts out of context?

On September 27 2014 08:46 Holyflare wrote:


OK, I think we should actually lynch him after thinking about it. Not only has he said he was moving into his new apartment or w/e (i can let that slide) but he's been on GB since the start of the game, he had an aside saying that he'd comment about Skydragon after sky had replied a bit here:



However, I've marked in red the scummy part. He said GB is still his top scum read. For this to change that must mean that not only does Hopeless actually HAVE mobile phone reception to be able to catch up to the thread (he has been lying in that case) but he furthermore hasn't posted ANYTHING since then. So in order to form the read on skydragon he had to have been able to post as well and he didn't. That's the scummy part.

On September 27 2014 09:22 GlowingBear wrote:


If you die it will be really informative. So if mafia kills you game is pratically solved

On September 28 2014 04:23 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


The issue isn't that "batsnacks was annoying." The issue is "batsnacks is being deliberately obtuse despite everyone telling him to stop being a dillhole."

On September 28 2014 04:26 Fecalfeast wrote:


All the dillholes last game were town

On September 28 2014 00:52 Palmar wrote:
Yeah killing you're fucking terrible. You let me lynch hopeless with bad reasons (they were bad, he was town, so they were by definition bad) while you had good reasons to think he's town (same logic).

And yet somehow I convinced more people than you. That makes you an awful player.

On September 28 2014 00:13 justanothertownie wrote:

Nah. Killing killing might be a very good idea though, I admit.

On September 28 2014 00:16 justanothertownie wrote:

You came in 5 minutes before deadline shitting on the lynch and were way too sure that hopeless would flip town.

On September 28 2014 07:35 Killing wrote:
Honestly,I was gonna fake a red on someone but this game is so terrible I don't even feel like giving a fuck. n0 hopeless n1 bats peace i'm out gl finding the mafia

On September 28 2014 11:49 HaruRH wrote:


Uh.. how do this make sense LOL

On September 28 2014 12:39 HaruRH wrote:

my vote on killing is separate from everyone else's vote... hmm??

On September 29 2014 06:33 Holyflare wrote:
Palmar is town reading people based off of the most God awful things. It's not just 1 person either it's like 5 people.

Also, have you seen haru play scum? It was awful. I literally hated every post that he typed... Much better here despite the lack of activity.

On September 29 2014 09:30 Superbia wrote:


I'm not convinced man. The whole icelandic thing and the policy lynches thing are both really weak. His fake post? Makes sense from my perspective. The only thing you have on him is the sudden townread on you, which is in no way alignment indicative enough for me to switch. Like do you have any other substantial reads? How did you even switch to Palmar that quickly?

On September 29 2014 09:45 Holyflare wrote:
No it's stupid people waiting till 30minutes before deadline till they want to switch to a new undiscussed target. Obi complains every game how last minute switches are useless and lynch town, still wants to lynch palmar last minute

On September 29 2014 09:46 batsnacks wrote:


LIAR

On September 29 2014 09:51 Superbia wrote:


I've given my entire read on sky already and he has ragequit. Literally has given no more information. I've also given my read on Palmar dude, it's mostly a gut-read but whatever.

On September 29 2014 09:50 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


This is a man preparing for a scum flip.

On September 29 2014 09:58 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


If.

He won't. Kill Palmar.

On September 30 2014 03:18 Fecalfeast wrote:
Can't i rage for like 2 posts? I didn't vote yet i just had to get that out.

On September 30 2014 03:17 Holyflare wrote:


I'm just as mad at my self for getting swayed by people who turned up at deadline to push palmar but i had been calling him out all day and that was nagging at me the entire time.

On September 30 2014 02:07 Holyflare wrote:



The only thing I can now say, knowing that storr had the most bull shit reasons for being on palmar ever is that obi is probably town for the way he was reacting at deadline and the way he was calling out posts. Honestly, I think fecal was pretty towny in reacting as well and he actually stuck to sky better than I actually did, I also like some of his reactions in regards to the hopeless lynch and some other things he's said throughout the game.

So changing my previous list it's now

sky/storr/superbia/jat/haru

^^ i'll start writing stuff on the above soon, I just really need to take a shit

On September 30 2014 10:51 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
FF, please explain your actions around deadline yesterday.

On September 30 2014 11:12 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


That's not what I'm talking about.





Just a pair of quotes from yesterday, but looking at what you were doing and what actually happened, it looked like you were looking around for someone else to take responsibility for what was going on.

That, or you were fishing for other lynches just in case someone flipped town.

On September 30 2014 06:59 Fecalfeast wrote:

Also when is this gonna happen?

On October 01 2014 06:48 batsnacks wrote:
FF is mafia. Calling it. I can just imagine him in his shop right now with a PC behind the counter, feverishly hammering on f5, waiting for someone, anyone, to say his name.

On October 01 2014 08:37 batsnacks wrote:
FecalFeast is mafia. Just saying. Again.

On October 01 2014 08:37 batsnacks wrote:
FecalFeast is mafia. Just saying. Again.

On October 01 2014 08:45 Holyflare wrote:

Fecalfeast - Not sure. On the one side, I agree with a lot of what he says. On the other, he seems to be trying to stay neutral but not sure whether he normally plays like this or it's because he's hiding something.


This is the only thing you have said about ff all game.

On October 01 2014 08:51 SkyDragon wrote:
You guys keep talking as if my flip is some grand mystery or something. It'll be Town, lol. Just as I've been saying all along.

You wasted all that time for nothing when you could've been analyzing much more scummier people.

On October 01 2014 09:00 Superbia wrote:
FF any input on the game other than "Sky is mafia"?

On October 01 2014 09:10 batsnacks wrote:


What do you think if Sky flips mafia? Do you still lynch HF?

On October 01 2014 09:11 SkyDragon wrote:


Nah mate, I'm not killing anyone. When you say silly things like "Lynch Palmar", that kills the Town. When you insist that someone is Mafia, even though he has said from d1 that he isn't, that kills the Town.

If Town loses, it's on Bats, FF, HF, JAT, Storr, Obi and Superbia (Unless you're Mafia, in which case I applaud your tactics in manipulating the feeble-minded sheep).

On October 01 2014 09:14 batsnacks wrote:


How does it change? There are two possibilities today: sd flips mafia or sd flips town. If you are town it should be easy for you to guess what you do in each situation.

On October 01 2014 02:59 Holyflare wrote:
I just want to lynch sky, get this shit over with and learn a lot from his flip. Finally. I don't really want to lynch anyone else even if i think they have a good chance of being mafia.

On October 01 2014 09:03 Holyflare wrote:
super paranoid that this guy flips town and haru then also flips town

On October 01 2014 04:38 Holyflare wrote:
Depends on skys flip..? If it's town almost certainly haru, if it's mafia I'll have to have a look at day 1 and 2 wagons again.

On October 01 2014 09:34 batsnacks wrote:


Dude that's harsh. What are you doing?

On October 02 2014 07:59 StorrZerg wrote:
@ff I want to know if you read obi town, or myself town, or neither. And why.

On October 02 2014 08:03 Fecalfeast wrote:

You: town, I have had you as town most of the game.
I don't have a good read on obi I can't recall his posts off the top of my head.
I have been reading super's and JaT's filters but I will go through obi's now and continue the others later. Give me a sec.

On October 02 2014 08:22 batsnacks wrote:


Until you realize FF is mafia I think I'll keep voting you.

On October 02 2014 08:26 StorrZerg wrote:



yeah not going to work like that. I'm going to try and get as many people to assess the group of 4, and make my case on who we should lynch. So either you can help me get this done, or you can continue to do nothing. choice is yours

On October 02 2014 08:29 batsnacks wrote:


You're not playing this game like you played the game when you were town. If you're town then I'm mafia. That's the only universe that allows you to be town.

On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:


no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia.

There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE.

So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE.

If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4.

On October 02 2014 08:37 batsnacks wrote:


If you're town, and your preferred lynched have been disregarded the entire game (they have), I expect you to have a primary target at this point. There are almost as many mafia as there are town. Town has to lynch correctly 3 days in a row to win.

On October 02 2014 08:31 VisceraEyes wrote:
Unless I'm missing something the majority of players wanted to lynch Haru for not playing, not because they thought he was scum.

On October 02 2014 11:14 VisceraEyes wrote:
Storr was reading Haru as town until he went AFK. Then he went AFK. That's the case Storr likes on Haru. And now he's voting TOWNASFUCKVE. LMAO

You can't bully me Storr. Vote for someone you think is mafia. I know you don't think it's me. Stop being ridiculous. You've given absolutely NO reason to be townreading Obi. You have given NO reason as to why you think it's LIKELY that all town were on Palmar. You're being absolutely unreasonable.

##Unvote
##Vote: Storrzerg

See I can vote for people I think are town too! Except wait...YOU actually could get lynched because you're acting scummy as fuck. We'll see who blinks first. You KNOW I'll throw a game bitch.

On October 02 2014 14:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like, that's part of why I want to lynch you. You're being very unreasonable. EVEN IF you are town and think I'm mafia, you're generally reasonable as town. You don't speak TO your scumreads either when you're town, as town you generally know that arguing with scumreads is fruitless so when you post about your scumreads you tend to speak ABOUT them in a general sense as if you're actually speaking to OTHER townies to try and convince them. If you're town then your play is drastically different than I remember it being. I thought the switch onto Palmar made you town, but frankly your play this cycle and JAT's points nullify that for me so I think you're mafia.

On October 02 2014 08:19 Fecalfeast wrote:
JaT's filter is 90% responding to someone and asking then to elaborate with hardly any posts that take up more than 3 lines without quotes. Seems like a lot of fluff to make himself look like he's trying to solve the game with one-liners.

Super hasn't posted much this day but his posts yesterday looked decent to me. I'd put him in null for now.

What am I supposed to read on VE? The person he replaced was practically full afk and was quite a few people's picks for lynching today if sky flipped green. Now VE is here and posting more than haru did the rest of the game.

JaT and maybe Haru/VE if you're gonna be lame and force me to answer your question but I don't feel confident calling either VE or Super mafia at ths point.

I would prefer to vote Obi over JaT based on filters alone, though.

Why are you and Obi paired together so tightly? It's just based on votes, right?

no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia.

There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE.

So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE.

If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4.

On October 02 2014 14:35 Fecalfeast wrote:
I think if we are voting between obi and storr that obi is the better pick just based on effort put in.


Storr:
I went back and read your reasoning on not looking at obi tonight
and it's really doesn't make sense to me. You basically say "Well from my point of view I'm town and obi might be mafia OR town so there are at least 2 mafia in the rest of people so ignore obi for now"
That works with anyone in the game replace obi with anyone else alive in the game and your 'logic' works.

How did I let that slide before?

On October 02 2014 08:28 StorrZerg wrote:


no. logically i don't want to vote obi today. From my point of view, even if obi is mafia.

There are 2 mafia within FF, Super, Jat, VE.

So even if you think obi is mafia, You have to also think there are two from your point of view within Super, Jat, VE.

If obi is town, then there are 3 mafia within the 4.

On October 02 2014 14:44 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Hey.

On October 02 2014 14:54 VisceraEyes wrote:

What is the basis of the bolded statement?

On October 02 2014 14:58 StorrZerg wrote:



However the logic is from the Palmar lynch. Being if you think either me or obi is town, it's in your best interest to look in the group of 4. Since from your view point ff, you have to know , 2 out of the 3 are scum if obi is mafia, or all 3 are scum.

I'm trying to pit you 4 against each other to see who picks what and why.

On October 02 2014 01:44 StorrZerg wrote:
Ve I expect 2 scum reads within jat, superbia, ff. From you

On October 03 2014 05:10 justanothertownie wrote:

Yeah. Because discussing things is scummier than not being here. I get it. Any further useful comments? No?

On October 03 2014 05:23 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm not hiding. I'm trying to lynch mafia. If I were hiding I'd be doing what Haru was doing - nothing. I'm out in the open for everyone to scrutinze. You're the only one who seems to have like a super huge problem with it Storr. Warning bells? No? Maybe everyone else is right and you are wrong? Maybe? Nahhh, couldn't be.

On October 01 2014 09:46 Holyflare wrote:
lynching haru before sky to save us from lynching him in lylo if sky flips town

On October 01 2014 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:
I mean HF has a point - if Sky is town then Haru looks really awful for example.

On October 01 2014 08:20 batsnacks wrote:


Is 1 if sky is town and 2 if sky is mafia? Because that seems ass backward if so.

On October 03 2014 08:53 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


Looking back, my read isn't as strong because I misread his post on the fight.

Like I looked at it, and I see him being wishy-washy about who to lynch between the two of you despite being upset about how the fight has taken up several pages. He didn't really do anything to fix the fight and threw away his vote uselessly, just to come back and complain about what was going on.

It's just...Useless.

On October 03 2014 08:57 VisceraEyes wrote:


First of all, I'M not getting a wagon moving on you, there's ALREADY a wagon moving on you which does NOT include me as yet.

Second of all the tone of the first quote is VERY accusatory and in tone sides with Storrzerg - you say you don't know who looks worse, but it's pretty clear that you're thinking I look worse based on the content of the post. The tone of the second post is VERY different - as if you KNOW I'm town and you're pleading with me.

Gonna need you to clarify your read on me now that I've complied with Storr's/everyone else's request of me and given my reads.

On October 03 2014 09:01 VisceraEyes wrote:
Like Fecal you're not the easiest mislynch in this game by a longshot, that's me based on who I replaced. So I'm not buying the whole "Woe is me" act about being wagoned at the end of the day. I KNOW you're better than that. Yes, I was frustrated with your play in BH's game - you were a part of the town that lynched me. But I was at the very least reading you as town remember? Useless/sucky/whatever, I was able to read you town that game and I'm not this game. That's all I'm saying.

On October 03 2014 09:04 ObiWanShinobi wrote:


You said you voted me because you wanted to spark new discussions, even though the fight between Storr/VE was almost entirely centered on me.

But you said you thought I was scum.

Votes are not be something to be ignored. If you are not using a vote to express that player X is 100% mafia, you should be using it to draw out information. You may be surprised how well votes force people to talk. Seeing how people react to your vote also gives you an indication of what bandwagons people are willing to jump on.

On October 03 2014 09:11 StorrZerg wrote:
doesn't matter if bats isn't around auto loss if he afks right now

On October 03 2014 09:17 StorrZerg wrote:
games probably the same and hasn't changed. Towns fighting all game bashing heads making the lynches.

Hence why mafia have been easily able to just sit back and let things happen





Players like FF,

Super (day 1 extraordinaire afking while letting "town sort it out with a useless vote)


Ve probably the 3rd. Reading 2 people town + himself in the group. Its wrong logically.
Can't have 2 mafia on palmar with HF dead. Thus VE logic is wrong, has to be scum.

On October 03 2014 09:39 StorrZerg wrote:



Should be pretty obvious I'm a mislynch


If town had this we would all be on the same wagon

On October 03 2014 09:41 StorrZerg wrote:



Your holding the vote

On October 03 2014 09:44 StorrZerg wrote:
O cool yeah. Super confirmed scum for failure to be on ff

On October 03 2014 09:39 Superbia wrote:
Honestly I think we need to all vote Storr if bats hasn't shown at :55. It's literally the only chance we have at winning the game. We can't outvote scum with just 3. Like I think he's town, but it's the only chance we have unless bats shows up.

On October 03 2014 09:49 StorrZerg wrote:


well it doens't matter bats isn't here to "guide"

imma laugh if bats isn't actually green checked by killing.

stay tuned we will know soon!

On October 03 2014 10:25 Superbia wrote:


Haha FF, you need to start believing in yourself man. Wanna join me in the new newbie game?

On October 03 2014 10:42 justanothertownie wrote:

Why? ^_^

Superbia
10-02-2014
10:48 AM ET (US)
Thing is, I've entangled myself quite a bit with FF. So me flipping scum means they likely go after FF.

On October 03 2014 10:54 justanothertownie wrote:

That's so sad...

On September 29 2014 09:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
Obi if you're mafia I'm never believing you again.