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On September 28 2014 12:13 Superbia wrote:This day fucking hurt to read, especially having to do it in one go. Holyflare - I don't think the game would even progress without him. Town until there's a check or a scumslip. Killing - Hard claims seer with a fake red, but later switches it to a double green check (one of which is conveniently dead). Like what the fuck are you even doing here? No cop would out here since you're giving town virtually nothing. Feels like scum trying to test the waters and see if they can bait out a counterclaim and get away with it. Doesn't help that he just literally ragequits the game right after, which scum loves to do. If it wasn't for the fact that we only have 1 PR I would lynch him right now, as it stands I don't even want to take the slightest risk when it comes to possibly lynching cop. That being said, I don't really believe it. batsnacks - If there was a third party role, this would be the guy. He's playing the game upside down or something. Scumreads 2/3 of my town and townreads my current scum. Shit like this also stands out: Show nested quote +Palmar doesn't get mad like this. Town Palmar would have afked like he said he would. He's mafia. Go vote him Killing. You played last game, Palmar stepped it up big time during d2. This read makes no fucking sense, just by reading Palmar's last game you should know this (specifically his d2 play). And then there is post #1132. Why don't you just admit that you soft claimed? You can't start the day off like that and expect people not to think you're soft claiming. It would've been fine in my eyes if you just backed off, but instead you make that overly defensive post. It just doesn't make any sense from a town perspective. Decently sure bats is scum, but I actually don't like a scumteam with both killing and bats, their interaction was too close, if that makes sense. I feel like we'll only hit 1 between the 2. Vote doesn't go on him because of the slightest possibility of Killing actually being cop. Palmar - Actually really like Palmar's d2 and I'm not sure why so many people are giving him shit. He's straight to the point and no bullshit. It really seems like he is trying to defuse the clowning around soft claiming for an hour and straight up filter the information. It also helps that this made it way easier for me to read parts of d2. Liking Palmar as town. Fecalfeast - Stepped up his d2 play in my eyes. He's saying relevant shit and is active with regards to relevant subjects (I also have to admit that I liked the jokes about sheeping). Get the feeling this guy might be town but I want to wait a little before I put him in my towncircle. He's definitely not a lynch for now. justanothertownie - His posts feel a lot less vanilla-town this day and I like it. Didn't even have to visit the filter to notice his posts! Him pinging out killing also let to the weak cop claim, so if killing flips scum JAT is pretty much confirmed town. Leaving him null for now. Also not a lynch for now. Will elaborate on other people who stand out (notably Sky at this point) come tomorrow, after I've had some sleep. Also we really need to resolve the Killing claim because my two primary scumreads are ironically the entire cop circle thing. I don't know if cop should counterclaim at this point though. I would rather take a bigger chance on a mislynch and for cop to have a possible red check on d3 at this point, followed by a double (and with slight possibility even triple) hit. I either scumread in the Sky/Obi/Haru group tomorrow, or new posts cause me to re-evaluate, or I'm completely clueless where to put my vote.
Btw, I'm just pointing this out, if superbia is town and correct, the game has been solved. Scumteam is sky/obi/haru 
Mostly because he gives 5 people in the 9 player group that is potential scum candidates a townread in this post.
Also, this feels sort of like CR last game. He is 100% correct about me, so correct that it feels eerie (and last game it was  )
I don't know though, I need to read his entire filter, I just thought I'd point this out.
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On September 29 2014 00:05 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:58 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:47 Palmar wrote:
JAT do you think HF could be mafia? Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion. So, do you think he is mafia or why are you asking? I'm interested in your opinion, and I'd actually more like to know more specifics. Basically, HF has a daunting 14 page filter. He's super annoying to deal with as mafia, and is actually very good at mafia. I still do not trust how he joined the Hopeless wagon yesterday, because I feel he should've made up his mind much earlier. It seems strange that after I posted the initial case on Hopeless, he kept doing other stuff for a long time, then joined much later with basically no new evidence (that is if I recall the events correctly). I feel townflare is confident enough to make a call on my case right there and either disagree or agree. But then again, he has made a few good observations, and he's capable of that as mafia, but as town as well. This is why I wanted him checked. Problem is the worst player in town seems to have gotten the cop role, so all we're getting out of that is a self-claim + 1 green, which is just as bad as if he had claimed on day 1. Anyway, I'm almost definitely going to leave HF until last while reading the potential targets, and I'm super afraid I will actually not lynch him ever if he's mafia, because it's just too much work. I really am the wrong person to ask here. I have an abysmal track record for catching scum HF. He is responsible for 2 of my recent failures. I know you are the wrong person, that is precisely why I'm asking you. You have barely even mentioned holyflare at all this game. I think the closest thing you came to talking about him was your ninja vote commentary. That's nothing. In fact I feel like you guys haven't interacted all that much throughout the game, which feels sorta weird.
I don't think this is true.
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If you guys don't want to vote Palmar look at these people:
On September 28 2014 13:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm thinking that if lynching Killing is such a bad idea, I probably want to lynch skydragon still. I am also still thinking "don't post anymore" as I have misread the majority of posts I replied to today.
That sentence makes me think FF could be scum. In the fanfic he was never worried about posting. He posted stuff like this:
On September 19 2014 11:36 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Simmer down. No calling each other dickheads.
I think he's been more reserved in general this game.
Also maybe look at obiwan. He looks scummy too.
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On September 29 2014 00:09 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 00:05 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:58 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:47 Palmar wrote:
JAT do you think HF could be mafia? Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion. So, do you think he is mafia or why are you asking? I'm interested in your opinion, and I'd actually more like to know more specifics. Basically, HF has a daunting 14 page filter. He's super annoying to deal with as mafia, and is actually very good at mafia. I still do not trust how he joined the Hopeless wagon yesterday, because I feel he should've made up his mind much earlier. It seems strange that after I posted the initial case on Hopeless, he kept doing other stuff for a long time, then joined much later with basically no new evidence (that is if I recall the events correctly). I feel townflare is confident enough to make a call on my case right there and either disagree or agree. But then again, he has made a few good observations, and he's capable of that as mafia, but as town as well. This is why I wanted him checked. Problem is the worst player in town seems to have gotten the cop role, so all we're getting out of that is a self-claim + 1 green, which is just as bad as if he had claimed on day 1. Anyway, I'm almost definitely going to leave HF until last while reading the potential targets, and I'm super afraid I will actually not lynch him ever if he's mafia, because it's just too much work. I really am the wrong person to ask here. I have an abysmal track record for catching scum HF. He is responsible for 2 of my recent failures. I know you are the wrong person, that is precisely why I'm asking you. You have barely even mentioned holyflare at all this game. I think the closest thing you came to talking about him was your ninja vote commentary. That's nothing. In fact I feel like you guys haven't interacted all that much throughout the game, which feels sorta weird. I don't think this is true.
I stand corrected. I forgot to press the "all" button when ctrl+f ing your filter so I missed a bunch of interactions.
Anyway I still want you to consider it. You know as well as me that if HF is mafia, it's going to take both of us to lynch him.
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On September 29 2014 00:13 batsnacks wrote:If you guys don't want to vote Palmar look at these people: Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 13:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm thinking that if lynching Killing is such a bad idea, I probably want to lynch skydragon still. I am also still thinking "don't post anymore" as I have misread the majority of posts I replied to today. That sentence makes me think FF could be scum. In the fanfic he was never worried about posting. He posted stuff like this: Show nested quote +On September 19 2014 11:36 Fecalfeast wrote:On September 19 2014 11:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Simmer down. No calling each other dickheads. On September 17 2014 11:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
You're not my f'in dad I think he's been more reserved in general this game. Also maybe look at obiwan. He looks scummy too.
For later in the game, could you please just drop your scumread on me, or at least assume that you could be wrong, and actually read my posts without assuming they all come from mafia.
It's going to be incredibly tough to recover this game if I have townies basically disregarding everything I do.
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On September 29 2014 00:16 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 00:13 batsnacks wrote:If you guys don't want to vote Palmar look at these people: On September 28 2014 13:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm thinking that if lynching Killing is such a bad idea, I probably want to lynch skydragon still. I am also still thinking "don't post anymore" as I have misread the majority of posts I replied to today. That sentence makes me think FF could be scum. In the fanfic he was never worried about posting. He posted stuff like this: On September 19 2014 11:36 Fecalfeast wrote:On September 19 2014 11:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Simmer down. No calling each other dickheads. On September 17 2014 11:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
You're not my f'in dad I think he's been more reserved in general this game. Also maybe look at obiwan. He looks scummy too. For later in the game, could you please just drop your scumread on me, or at least assume that you could be wrong, and actually read my posts without assuming they all come from mafia. It's going to be incredibly tough to recover this game if I have townies basically disregarding everything I do.
I could be wrong I just don't think I am. And if you're mafia then all of your posts do come from mafia.
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Superbia's filter is the most fun to read. I enjoy playing with this guy!
His alignment is actually super simple (simple, not easy) to figure out. He got into a bit of a spat with HF on day 1, and all that's needed to town or scumread him is to figure out if this feels genuine.
On September 27 2014 01:35 Superbia wrote:
HF, what the fuck dude. Read the fucking context (AND READ MY FILTER). I've explained before why I feel Storr is town, him backing off just adds to that. Bats is just like "yeah I guess we should back off like Storr said" (not exact quote) so no, he doesn't get fucking town points for that. Yeah, maybe my "skydragon flips town -> bats is probably scum" read is a bit extreme, but I don't think it's completely uncalled for here. Furthermore, it's for a later point in time anyway so I'm expecting to have a better read on bats then anyway.
If plenty of people jump on a certain person after he's been read scummy by others, then that fucking stands out to me. Two worlds:
Sky is town -> at least 1 scum jumped on him. In this case my bet would be on Bats at this point in time, because he sheeped storr backing off so hard.
Sky is scum -> Less information, not going to draw any hard conclusions from this.
Stop wasting my fucking time dude, I don't have all the time and energy in the world. If you have questions fucking ask them, don't just start some shitty push on me because then I have to fucking walk through my entire thought process. Now I have to fucking go and my time could've been spent on something more productive. I'll be back before EoD.
On September 27 2014 01:41 Superbia wrote:
Got a bit heated, my apologies. I really wanted to interact with palmar and dive JAT's filter before I had to go. Whatever, I can see your point but next time please just ask instead of making a wall which I have to read and respond to. Like if you just ask "why are you reading storr as town and bats as scum for x" then I could've just responded and continued playing. Whatever, let's move on. I'll be back before EoD.
I actually think this looks pretty much okay, there's literally nothing here that feels like he's faking frustration, and I don't think the situation warranted being upset unless he is town.
I'm pretty confident he's town, even if he's doing a full CR and actually having a godlike read on me (that's actually the most suspicious part in his filter, to me at least).
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On September 29 2014 00:15 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 00:09 justanothertownie wrote:On September 29 2014 00:05 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 00:01 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:58 Palmar wrote:On September 28 2014 23:52 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:49 justanothertownie wrote:On September 28 2014 23:47 Palmar wrote:
JAT do you think HF could be mafia? Of course he could. But right now he is pushing the right people in my opinion. So, do you think he is mafia or why are you asking? I'm interested in your opinion, and I'd actually more like to know more specifics. Basically, HF has a daunting 14 page filter. He's super annoying to deal with as mafia, and is actually very good at mafia. I still do not trust how he joined the Hopeless wagon yesterday, because I feel he should've made up his mind much earlier. It seems strange that after I posted the initial case on Hopeless, he kept doing other stuff for a long time, then joined much later with basically no new evidence (that is if I recall the events correctly). I feel townflare is confident enough to make a call on my case right there and either disagree or agree. But then again, he has made a few good observations, and he's capable of that as mafia, but as town as well. This is why I wanted him checked. Problem is the worst player in town seems to have gotten the cop role, so all we're getting out of that is a self-claim + 1 green, which is just as bad as if he had claimed on day 1. Anyway, I'm almost definitely going to leave HF until last while reading the potential targets, and I'm super afraid I will actually not lynch him ever if he's mafia, because it's just too much work. I really am the wrong person to ask here. I have an abysmal track record for catching scum HF. He is responsible for 2 of my recent failures. I know you are the wrong person, that is precisely why I'm asking you. You have barely even mentioned holyflare at all this game. I think the closest thing you came to talking about him was your ninja vote commentary. That's nothing. In fact I feel like you guys haven't interacted all that much throughout the game, which feels sorta weird. I don't think this is true. I stand corrected. I forgot to press the "all" button when ctrl+f ing your filter so I missed a bunch of interactions. Anyway I still want you to consider it. You know as well as me that if HF is mafia, it's going to take both of us to lynch him.
I will consider it. But I really don't think he is the lynch today.
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On September 29 2014 00:19 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 00:16 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 00:13 batsnacks wrote:If you guys don't want to vote Palmar look at these people: On September 28 2014 13:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm thinking that if lynching Killing is such a bad idea, I probably want to lynch skydragon still. I am also still thinking "don't post anymore" as I have misread the majority of posts I replied to today. That sentence makes me think FF could be scum. In the fanfic he was never worried about posting. He posted stuff like this: On September 19 2014 11:36 Fecalfeast wrote:On September 19 2014 11:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Simmer down. No calling each other dickheads. On September 17 2014 11:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
You're not my f'in dad I think he's been more reserved in general this game. Also maybe look at obiwan. He looks scummy too. For later in the game, could you please just drop your scumread on me, or at least assume that you could be wrong, and actually read my posts without assuming they all come from mafia. It's going to be incredibly tough to recover this game if I have townies basically disregarding everything I do. I could be wrong I just don't think I am. And if you're mafia then all of your posts do come from mafia.
Yeah, I get that. But just leave the option open. If I am town, this thing I'm doing right now should be quite valuable to you, more than anyone else (I think) I'm stepping back and re-evaluating the game to see where it takes me. If you cba reading all the filters yourself and reaching conclusions, at least don't discount mine. Ignore who is talking and look at what I'm saying. Even if I'm mafia, I'd be striving to make at least some good points to look town, so figure out which parts you agree with and which parts you don't.
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On September 29 2014 00:25 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 00:19 batsnacks wrote:On September 29 2014 00:16 Palmar wrote:On September 29 2014 00:13 batsnacks wrote:If you guys don't want to vote Palmar look at these people: On September 28 2014 13:45 Fecalfeast wrote:
I'm thinking that if lynching Killing is such a bad idea, I probably want to lynch skydragon still. I am also still thinking "don't post anymore" as I have misread the majority of posts I replied to today. That sentence makes me think FF could be scum. In the fanfic he was never worried about posting. He posted stuff like this: On September 19 2014 11:36 Fecalfeast wrote:On September 19 2014 11:35 Blazinghand wrote:
Simmer down. No calling each other dickheads. On September 17 2014 11:46 Fecalfeast wrote:
You're not my f'in dad I think he's been more reserved in general this game. Also maybe look at obiwan. He looks scummy too. For later in the game, could you please just drop your scumread on me, or at least assume that you could be wrong, and actually read my posts without assuming they all come from mafia. It's going to be incredibly tough to recover this game if I have townies basically disregarding everything I do. I could be wrong I just don't think I am. And if you're mafia then all of your posts do come from mafia. Yeah, I get that. But just leave the option open. If I am town, this thing I'm doing right now should be quite valuable to you, more than anyone else (I think) I'm stepping back and re-evaluating the game to see where it takes me. If you cba reading all the filters yourself and reaching conclusions, at least don't discount mine. Ignore who is talking and look at what I'm saying. Even if I'm mafia, I'd be striving to make at least some good points to look town, so figure out which parts you agree with and which parts you don't.
Thanks dad
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I want to lynch skydragon not just because he might be scum but because it also gives us ridiculous amounts of information
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I'm off for a bit, coming up, haru, storr and skydragon.
leaving jat and hf, but also leaving a formal request that jat and hf both look really hard at each other.
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On September 29 2014 00:31 Palmar wrote:
I'm off for a bit, coming up, haru, storr and skydragon.
leaving jat and hf, but also leaving a formal request that jat and hf both look really hard at each other.
You are a lazy and awful human being.
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I already wrote about jat. We had a mini discussion thing already today.
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On September 29 2014 00:31 Holyflare wrote:
I want to lynch skydragon not just because he might be scum but because it also gives us ridiculous amounts of information
Can you elaborate on this information?
Like I'm tempted to yolo lynch him simply because of the thing I pointed out earlier regarding him "being shocked hopeless was town", but I feel like we gotta be pretty thorough today, leave no stone unturned.
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On September 29 2014 00:32 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 00:31 Palmar wrote:
I'm off for a bit, coming up, haru, storr and skydragon.
leaving jat and hf, but also leaving a formal request that jat and hf both look really hard at each other. You are a lazy and awful human being.
Wow thanks!
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On September 29 2014 00:33 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On September 29 2014 00:31 Holyflare wrote:
I want to lynch skydragon not just because he might be scum but because it also gives us ridiculous amounts of information Can you elaborate on this information? Like I'm tempted to yolo lynch him simply because of the thing I pointed out earlier regarding him "being shocked hopeless was town", but I feel like we gotta be pretty thorough today, leave no stone unturned.
We don't really have to be thorough at all. Killing gave us all 2 extra days to live. The information is because everyone piled onto skydragon and were ridiculously quick to switch to hopeless so if sky is mafia then i know who to look at.
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HF what do you think about Palmar townreading you because he doesn't feel like trying to lynch you if you're mafia? I think he's said that three times this game.
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I've made it known that palmar is probably maybe mafia. Also i don't think haru is mafia at all purely because i haven't despised any of the posts that he's written and his green thing early
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On September 29 2014 00:38 Holyflare wrote:
I've made it known that palmar is probably maybe mafia. Also i don't think haru is mafia at all purely because i haven't despised any of the posts that he's written and his green thing early
Why aren't you trying to lynch me then?
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