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On October 02 2014 02:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't "pick" a favorite wagon. Palmar did something really suspicious and I went after him for it.
It's an easy thing to look at in hindsight and say it's scummy because his flip is already out there.
Furthermore why wouldn't scumStorr have motivation to switch to Palmar? By your own reasoning you should be suspicious of both of us and not just me. But you were just questioning him on his reasoning and gave him a pass without getting an answer. Because Storr was already on a PASSING townie wagon in Sky unless I'm missing something. That means that he had to draw attention to himself by switching wagons, DRAW FURTHER ATTENTION to himself by making huge posts on the matter, and then STILL look bad because Palmar flipped town WHICH HE WOULD KNOW. YOU on the other hand were NOT on a wagon. You hadn't chosen a side, so when you finally do choose a side it doesn't look AS suspicious on the surface...but given the flip, it makes it look like you were just going with the flow and voting on the easiest mislynch at the time. I was already suspicious of Sky. I had chosen a side long beforehand but Palmar came and did something really fucking scummy. So I voted him. This is what happens when you don't read the game.
Pretty rich to attack a new replacement of not having read the game.
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On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward.
He's saying that from everyone's perspective:
3 mafia.
IF you think 1 is mafia between Obi/Storr (based on D2 wagons) then there HAVE to be 2 in the other voters.
IF you think they are both mafia then there is only one in the other voters.
He's saying that from his perspective, he KNOWS there's at max 1 on Palmar (because he knows he is town)
Therefor he knows that there are AT LEAST 2 in the other voters, POSSIBLY 3. From his perspective.
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On October 02 2014 02:19 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. He's saying that from everyone's perspective: 3 mafia. IF you think 1 is mafia between Obi/Storr (based on D2 wagons) then there HAVE to be 2 in the other voters. IF you think they are both mafia then there is only one in the other voters. He's saying that from his perspective, he KNOWS there's at max 1 on Palmar (because he knows he is town) Therefor he knows that there are AT LEAST 2 in the other voters, POSSIBLY 3. From his perspective.
Yeah, that is basic logic. It does not explain a townpass for Obi though.
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On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today.
You are impossible.
What is your updated read on me and obi.
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What makes me suspicious of Storr is that he's opting to look outside the wagon rather than look at Obi. Especially since he's recently moved him to "Null" for "X-Reason". If "X-Reason" was enough to downgrade a townread to null, then why when there is good evidence that he's mafia in the voting patterns is he wanting to look elsewhere?
But like I said, I'm not interested in Storr today. He might have a reason I'm not seeing that he's not sharing or isn't repeating. Whatever. I want to lynch Obi today.
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On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi.
Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar.
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Find scum in your 4 ve...
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On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar.
In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question.
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On October 02 2014 02:24 StorrZerg wrote:
Find scum in your 4 ve...
I'll do that when I ensure the lynch of the mafia I've found Storr. Stop telling me what to do.
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On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question.
Good observation. Have a cookie.
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On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie.
I like cookies!
No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more.
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Explain your read on jat ve.
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On October 02 2014 02:09 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, I haven't read him. XD
FF and JAT could be mafia, but our best shot is Obi based on D2 wagons. Join me and win, or oppose me and lose. The choice is yours.
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On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more.
Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town.
I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be.
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On October 02 2014 02:18 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 02 2014 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't "pick" a favorite wagon. Palmar did something really suspicious and I went after him for it.
It's an easy thing to look at in hindsight and say it's scummy because his flip is already out there.
Furthermore why wouldn't scumStorr have motivation to switch to Palmar? By your own reasoning you should be suspicious of both of us and not just me. But you were just questioning him on his reasoning and gave him a pass without getting an answer. Because Storr was already on a PASSING townie wagon in Sky unless I'm missing something. That means that he had to draw attention to himself by switching wagons, DRAW FURTHER ATTENTION to himself by making huge posts on the matter, and then STILL look bad because Palmar flipped town WHICH HE WOULD KNOW. YOU on the other hand were NOT on a wagon. You hadn't chosen a side, so when you finally do choose a side it doesn't look AS suspicious on the surface...but given the flip, it makes it look like you were just going with the flow and voting on the easiest mislynch at the time. I was already suspicious of Sky. I had chosen a side long beforehand but Palmar came and did something really fucking scummy. So I voted him. This is what happens when you don't read the game. Pretty rich to attack a new replacement of not having read the game.
Considering that his attack is pretty much baseless then yeah.
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Based on what I've seen:
Null-points for wanting to give me time to read. Town points for noticing Storr's reticence to vote for or even consider Obi.
But I have NOT filtered JAT, nor will I do so without compelling evidence that he's a better lynch than Obi.
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On October 02 2014 02:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:18 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On October 02 2014 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't "pick" a favorite wagon. Palmar did something really suspicious and I went after him for it.
It's an easy thing to look at in hindsight and say it's scummy because his flip is already out there.
Furthermore why wouldn't scumStorr have motivation to switch to Palmar? By your own reasoning you should be suspicious of both of us and not just me. But you were just questioning him on his reasoning and gave him a pass without getting an answer. Because Storr was already on a PASSING townie wagon in Sky unless I'm missing something. That means that he had to draw attention to himself by switching wagons, DRAW FURTHER ATTENTION to himself by making huge posts on the matter, and then STILL look bad because Palmar flipped town WHICH HE WOULD KNOW. YOU on the other hand were NOT on a wagon. You hadn't chosen a side, so when you finally do choose a side it doesn't look AS suspicious on the surface...but given the flip, it makes it look like you were just going with the flow and voting on the easiest mislynch at the time. I was already suspicious of Sky. I had chosen a side long beforehand but Palmar came and did something really fucking scummy. So I voted him. This is what happens when you don't read the game. Pretty rich to attack a new replacement of not having read the game. Considering that his attack is pretty much baseless then yeah.
MY attack is not baseless. It's based on facts that are in this thread plain to see for everyone.
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On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:23 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:21 StorrZerg wrote:On October 02 2014 02:17 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.
Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.
So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.
Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward. None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today. You are impossible. What is your updated read on me and obi. Undecided. You might be town for the sheer stupidity of your argument but it could also fit an agenda. I would be surprised if there was no scum on Palmar. In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be.
I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D
In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully".
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Your case boils down to me switching without initially voting Sky.
If I voted Sky beforehand you wouldn't have said shit.
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