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On October 02 2014 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:24 VisceraEyes wrote:
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In this post, JAT gives a non-answer to a specific and direct question. Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later. Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything. Btw what are you talking about? Storr is not confirmed town.
I gave reasoning for thinking Storr is town. Storr as mafia has no reason. NO REASON AT ALL to switch from Sky to Palmar after lurking the whole day WITH his vote on Sky. He can just sit back, do nothing, and let Sky get lynched. Instead he comes in and in a tirade gets people to lynch Palmar. MAFIA DO NOT DO THAT. So Storr is town to me. I probably won't lynch unless he and I are both in final 3 with someone who looks REALLY REALLY fucking town, and that guy makes a REALLY REALLY good case that I literally can say nothing to. He's THAT town to me.
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Although I have to say - his insistence that I look at people other than Obi really sets off alarm bells. But again, I'm NEVER lynching Storr over Obi today. EVER.
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On October 02 2014 02:56 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:25 justanothertownie wrote:
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Good observation. Have a cookie. I like cookies! No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later. Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything. Btw what are you talking about? Storr is not confirmed town. I gave reasoning for thinking Storr is town. Storr as mafia has no reason. NO REASON AT ALL to switch from Sky to Palmar after lurking the whole day WITH his vote on Sky. He can just sit back, do nothing, and let Sky get lynched. Instead he comes in and in a tirade gets people to lynch Palmar. MAFIA DO NOT DO THAT. So Storr is town to me. I probably won't lynch unless he and I are both in final 3 with someone who looks REALLY REALLY fucking town, and that guy makes a REALLY REALLY good case that I literally can say nothing to. He's THAT town to me.
This reasoning is awful. Mafia gains so much more from lynching Palmar over Sky in that situation. Storr did basically the same Obi did with the exception that he actually had a vote on Sky.
Let me explain it once again: If we lynch Sky that day a question mark and sure mislynch is removed. And Palmar who certainly will not be mislynched later on and who is a much stronger player than Skydragon is alive. Are you still telling me there is no reason at all for Storr to lynch Palmar here?
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On October 02 2014 03:00 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
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I like cookies!
No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later. Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything. Btw what are you talking about? Storr is not confirmed town. I gave reasoning for thinking Storr is town. Storr as mafia has no reason. NO REASON AT ALL to switch from Sky to Palmar after lurking the whole day WITH his vote on Sky. He can just sit back, do nothing, and let Sky get lynched. Instead he comes in and in a tirade gets people to lynch Palmar. MAFIA DO NOT DO THAT. So Storr is town to me. I probably won't lynch unless he and I are both in final 3 with someone who looks REALLY REALLY fucking town, and that guy makes a REALLY REALLY good case that I literally can say nothing to. He's THAT town to me. This reasoning is awful. Mafia gains so much more from lynching Palmar over Sky in that situation. Storr did basically the same Obi did with the exception that he actually had a vote on Sky. Let me explain it once again: If we lynch Sky that day a question mark and sure mislynch is removed. And Palmar who certainly will not be mislynched later on and who is a much stronger player than Skydragon is alive. Are you still telling me there is no reason at all for Storr to lynch Palmar here?
But that's the thing: why will palmar "certainly not be mislynched later on"? Clearly he was mislynched then, so why is it less likely later?
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On October 02 2014 03:03 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 03:00 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:
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Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town.
I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later. Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything. Btw what are you talking about? Storr is not confirmed town. I gave reasoning for thinking Storr is town. Storr as mafia has no reason. NO REASON AT ALL to switch from Sky to Palmar after lurking the whole day WITH his vote on Sky. He can just sit back, do nothing, and let Sky get lynched. Instead he comes in and in a tirade gets people to lynch Palmar. MAFIA DO NOT DO THAT. So Storr is town to me. I probably won't lynch unless he and I are both in final 3 with someone who looks REALLY REALLY fucking town, and that guy makes a REALLY REALLY good case that I literally can say nothing to. He's THAT town to me. This reasoning is awful. Mafia gains so much more from lynching Palmar over Sky in that situation. Storr did basically the same Obi did with the exception that he actually had a vote on Sky. Let me explain it once again: If we lynch Sky that day a question mark and sure mislynch is removed. And Palmar who certainly will not be mislynched later on and who is a much stronger player than Skydragon is alive. Are you still telling me there is no reason at all for Storr to lynch Palmar here? But that's the thing: why will palmar "certainly not be mislynched later on"? Clearly he was mislynched then, so why is it less likely later?
Because Palmar would have fought against it. He was literally wagoned when he had just left the thread.
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And had announced that he wouldn't return before deadline.
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I probably wouldn't vote StoreZerg today.
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On October 02 2014 03:08 batsnacks wrote:
I probably wouldn't vote StoreZerg today.
Who would you vote?
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I actually rescind my townread on FF. He does not seem like he is figuring out the game recently.
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Like half of his filter is day1.
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On October 02 2014 03:00 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 02:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
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I like cookies!
No really, can you please give reads on Obi and Storr and then kindly vote for Obi in the voting thread? Every SECOND you refuse to do so makes me want to kill you more and more. Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town. I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later. Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything. Btw what are you talking about? Storr is not confirmed town. I gave reasoning for thinking Storr is town. Storr as mafia has no reason. NO REASON AT ALL to switch from Sky to Palmar after lurking the whole day WITH his vote on Sky. He can just sit back, do nothing, and let Sky get lynched. Instead he comes in and in a tirade gets people to lynch Palmar. MAFIA DO NOT DO THAT. So Storr is town to me. I probably won't lynch unless he and I are both in final 3 with someone who looks REALLY REALLY fucking town, and that guy makes a REALLY REALLY good case that I literally can say nothing to. He's THAT town to me. This reasoning is awful. Mafia gains so much more from lynching Palmar over Sky in that situation. Storr did basically the same Obi did with the exception that he actually had a vote on Sky. Let me explain it once again: If we lynch Sky that day a question mark and sure mislynch is removed. And Palmar who certainly will not be mislynched later on and who is a much stronger player than Skydragon is alive. Are you still telling me there is no reason at all for Storr to lynch Palmar here?
No because he can just kill Palmar in the night. He doesn't HAVE to lynch him there at all, he has EVERY EXCUSE to just ride it out on Sky and then NK Palmar if he thinks he's such a 'threat'.
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On October 02 2014 03:58 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 03:00 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:56 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:53 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:46 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:45 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:39 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:37 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 02:34 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 02 2014 02:29 justanothertownie wrote:
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Don't care. This is LYLO and we have to reason this out carefully. Every single town has to vote for the same scum for us to win. That means you have to work with me if you are town.
I am not sold on the both of them but I will say that Obi looks scummier because he is way less proactive than storr however misguided he may be. I'm perfectly willing to work with you so long as you vote for Obi at the end of the day. :D In all seriousness, I KNOW. That's why I think it's suspicious that you had a non-opinion on Obi/Storr - because we have to work together if you're town. Giving a non-answer is the opposite of "we have to reason this out carefully". Yeah, but I can't give you an answer if I have none. I don't know how it is for you but I don't know who is scum. All I know is that batsnacks and I are town and that town has been pushing other town for most of the game so scum could basically do whatever the fuck they wanted. I was ready to go after HF today but he died. But that's just it - I've given reasoning for thinking Obi is mafia and Storr has been in here posting and shit - you should have a better read on the situation than your "feelings going into today". I appreciate that the game is difficult at this point, but if you're going to put on a show of trying to figure out the game then you gotta go through the motions of explaining your reasoning for shit - comes with the territory. There is truth in what you are saying but you also need to consider that now that we are in LYLO scum is able to say whatever they want and bus all day. You really need to consider the complete game your target played. And if I do that then there is still a part of me that wants to lynch you tbh. The only one I have a slight townread on is FF. Maybe Storr. I will go through some filters later. Okay, based on this post I'm willing to lynch JAT OR Obi. Storr gets to pick, by virtue of being the only confirmed town in the game who is doing anything. Btw what are you talking about? Storr is not confirmed town. I gave reasoning for thinking Storr is town. Storr as mafia has no reason. NO REASON AT ALL to switch from Sky to Palmar after lurking the whole day WITH his vote on Sky. He can just sit back, do nothing, and let Sky get lynched. Instead he comes in and in a tirade gets people to lynch Palmar. MAFIA DO NOT DO THAT. So Storr is town to me. I probably won't lynch unless he and I are both in final 3 with someone who looks REALLY REALLY fucking town, and that guy makes a REALLY REALLY good case that I literally can say nothing to. He's THAT town to me. This reasoning is awful. Mafia gains so much more from lynching Palmar over Sky in that situation. Storr did basically the same Obi did with the exception that he actually had a vote on Sky. Let me explain it once again: If we lynch Sky that day a question mark and sure mislynch is removed. And Palmar who certainly will not be mislynched later on and who is a much stronger player than Skydragon is alive. Are you still telling me there is no reason at all for Storr to lynch Palmar here? No because he can just kill Palmar in the night. He doesn't HAVE to lynch him there at all, he has EVERY EXCUSE to just ride it out on Sky and then NK Palmar if he thinks he's such a 'threat'.
You don't get it, do you? They could NOT kill Palmar since they had to kill Joey. Also even if they could NK him it is still better to lynch him and leave Sky alive because Sky would have just been mislynched later no matter what.
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Like sure he has every excuse to lynch Sky but it is much much better for scum to lynch Palmar and NOT Sky in that situation. It is really not hard to understand.
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On October 02 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 03:08 batsnacks wrote:
I probably wouldn't vote StoreZerg today. Who would you vote?
I like where my vote is at right now. Would vote superbia too. Other than that I'd vote obiwan over Store over VE over jat. Considering how this game has been going so far though scum team is probably VE, Store, and JAT and I'll never vote correctly this game.
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Like if FF isn't mafia then I'll be happy for mafia if they win. They deserve it.
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On October 02 2014 04:21 batsnacks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 02 2014 03:11 justanothertownie wrote:On October 02 2014 03:08 batsnacks wrote:
I probably wouldn't vote StoreZerg today. Who would you vote? I like where my vote is at right now. Would vote superbia too. Other than that I'd vote obiwan over Store over VE over jat. Considering how this game has been going so far though scum team is probably VE, Store, and JAT and I'll never vote correctly this game.
bats there is no e in my name... 2 r's Storr
Why would you never vote jat...
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I just got home and I'm exhausted, gonna go to sleep soon.
On October 02 2014 01:05 StorrZerg wrote:
Prepare for the makeup mafia play from ve.
@superbia no more delay. Where is this hard town read of me you should have right now.
I've already explained what my read was on you and why I wasn't really sure on said read anymore (#1904, second paragraph). It's still the same for now. The fact that you switched to Palmar is still floating around in my mind, even though you seemed the most genuine of all the switchers. I'll re-evaluate if necessary before EoD, but for now I don't want to lynch you today.
Some quicks thoughts on who I want to lynch atm. I will re-evaluate tomorrow. But just going from what I thought yesterday/gut/skimming today:
1. Obi - This is based on what I brought up in post #1904. Since HF got killed (???), Obi is the best lynch candidate due to PoE. There were also some points brought up on Obi's play today which looked half-decent, but I haven't had time to read too much into them.
2. Haru/VE - Yesterday everyone wanted to lynch Haru (now VE), now almost no one wants to. Honestly I think VE has looked rather townie so far, but it seems kind of easy when you start with what is essentially a clean slate. I haven't forgotten about Haru, and will evaluate VE more on the morrow. The fact that half of the opinions have fallen off kinda irks me.
3. One in the rest. At the moment it's JAT > FF > Storr. Purely based on gut.
I'll be around for a little and then going to bed.
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Okay superbia's post narrows down who I'm not voting. Not voting Obiwan today. Already said I wasn't voting VE.
On October 01 2014 09:52 Holyflare wrote:
everyone in this game has pretty much said the same lynch targets for tomorrow which should be sounding alarm bells to all of you
On October 01 2014 05:57 Holyflare wrote:
I gave you my answer - the names. From what i remember haru, storr and super were off both wagons (that are alive) and the rest (fecal, you (switched before) [batsnacks], jat, obi, sky, someone?) switched fast when i made my case
Here's some important posts from HF.
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obi can you give a detailed jat read?
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fantastic, thats 3 people who don't want to lynch within Storr/Obi. including the confirmed town. Start moving onto another wagon people.
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