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StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 01 2014 16:57 GMT
#2361
I all Ready explained my reason which from a purely logic stand point.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 01 2014 16:58 GMT
#2362
On October 02 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's not the only reason I don't want to lynch Storr.

Even if I didn't agree with his analysis, I think it's apparent he's trying to reason this fucking mess out. You're so nitpicky I swear.

You of all people should know best that you cannot townread people for doing something in LYLO. You have to look at the actual reasoning and Storr has none. If you townread him for different reasons then that is fair enough but if he is reading you town only for being on Palmar then that doesn't add up.

He's not, Storr was town on Obi for like the whole game up to that point. I'm sure the Palmar wagon helped in that regard, but what's weird is that now Obi is null to him based on....something. Maybe the Palmar wagon? I don't know, but during that Obi made a post that Storr agreed with so I don't think it's that.

@Storr
I want your full read on Obi whenever you get the chance.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
October 01 2014 16:59 GMT
#2363
On October 02 2014 01:57 StorrZerg wrote:
I all Ready explained my reason which from a purely logic stand point.

There is no logic. You literally claim that Obi has to be dumb town because all the other people on the wagon are dumb town.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 01 2014 16:59 GMT
#2364
On October 02 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's not the only reason I don't want to lynch Storr.

Even if I didn't agree with his analysis, I think it's apparent he's trying to reason this fucking mess out. You're so nitpicky I swear.

You of all people should know best that you cannot townread people for doing something in LYLO. You have to look at the actual reasoning and Storr has none. If you townread him for different reasons then that is fair enough but if he is reading you town only for being on Palmar then that doesn't add up.


So what exactly are you saying here?
Retired.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 01 2014 17:00 GMT
#2365
On October 02 2014 01:57 StorrZerg wrote:
I all Ready explained my reason which from a purely logic stand point.

I can't find hook me up.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
October 01 2014 17:01 GMT
#2366
On October 02 2014 01:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's not the only reason I don't want to lynch Storr.

Even if I didn't agree with his analysis, I think it's apparent he's trying to reason this fucking mess out. You're so nitpicky I swear.

You of all people should know best that you cannot townread people for doing something in LYLO. You have to look at the actual reasoning and Storr has none. If you townread him for different reasons then that is fair enough but if he is reading you town only for being on Palmar then that doesn't add up.


So what exactly are you saying here?

I am saying that if you are town then you should be suspicious of how he doesn't even consider the possibility that you could be scum.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 01 2014 17:03 GMT
#2367
On October 02 2014 01:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's not the only reason I don't want to lynch Storr.

Even if I didn't agree with his analysis, I think it's apparent he's trying to reason this fucking mess out. You're so nitpicky I swear.

You of all people should know best that you cannot townread people for doing something in LYLO. You have to look at the actual reasoning and Storr has none. If you townread him for different reasons then that is fair enough but if he is reading you town only for being on Palmar then that doesn't add up.

He's not, Storr was town on Obi for like the whole game up to that point. I'm sure the Palmar wagon helped in that regard, but what's weird is that now Obi is null to him based on....something. Maybe the Palmar wagon? I don't know, but during that Obi made a post that Storr agreed with so I don't think it's that.

@Storr
I want your full read on Obi whenever you get the chance.


Nope not going off my agenda.

Read into fecal and jat ve.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 01 2014 17:04 GMT
#2368
On October 02 2014 02:01 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:59 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's not the only reason I don't want to lynch Storr.

Even if I didn't agree with his analysis, I think it's apparent he's trying to reason this fucking mess out. You're so nitpicky I swear.

You of all people should know best that you cannot townread people for doing something in LYLO. You have to look at the actual reasoning and Storr has none. If you townread him for different reasons then that is fair enough but if he is reading you town only for being on Palmar then that doesn't add up.


So what exactly are you saying here?

I am saying that if you are town then you should be suspicious of how he doesn't even consider the possibility that you could be scum.

^ ^ ^

That's the thing I find weird in this whole situation. Like, townies on Palmar should be really suspicious of the other players on that wagon, and a couple of them have flipped town which means that from Storr/Obi's perspective, they should be SUPER suspicious of the other.

From MY perspective, mafiaStorr has nothing to gain from switching from townSky to townPalmar, however Obi wasn't voting and THEN voted for Palmar. He didn't switch from anyone ONTO anyone, he just picked his favorite wagon.

Based on that I'm giving Storr a pass today and I'm most suspicious of Obi.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 01 2014 17:04 GMT
#2369
On October 02 2014 02:03 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:58 VisceraEyes wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:56 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:52 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
That's not the only reason I don't want to lynch Storr.

Even if I didn't agree with his analysis, I think it's apparent he's trying to reason this fucking mess out. You're so nitpicky I swear.

You of all people should know best that you cannot townread people for doing something in LYLO. You have to look at the actual reasoning and Storr has none. If you townread him for different reasons then that is fair enough but if he is reading you town only for being on Palmar then that doesn't add up.

He's not, Storr was town on Obi for like the whole game up to that point. I'm sure the Palmar wagon helped in that regard, but what's weird is that now Obi is null to him based on....something. Maybe the Palmar wagon? I don't know, but during that Obi made a post that Storr agreed with so I don't think it's that.

@Storr
I want your full read on Obi whenever you get the chance.


Nope not going off my agenda.

Read into fecal and jat ve.

Stop telling me what to do bish. I'm voting for Obi today.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 01 2014 17:06 GMT
#2370
On October 02 2014 01:59 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:57 StorrZerg wrote:
I all Ready explained my reason which from a purely logic stand point.

There is no logic. You literally claim that Obi has to be dumb town because all the other people on the wagon are dumb town.



No his alignment doesn't matter.

I know there are 2 mafia within ve jat ff superbia.

If obi is town, then 3. If not still 2.

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 01 2014 17:07 GMT
#2371
On October 02 2014 02:06 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:57 StorrZerg wrote:
I all Ready explained my reason which from a purely logic stand point.

There is no logic. You literally claim that Obi has to be dumb town because all the other people on the wagon are dumb town.



No his alignment doesn't matter.

I know there are 2 mafia within ve jat ff superbia.

If obi is town, then 3. If not still 2.


There are zero between VE and VE. Superbia looks good. JAT looks good. Your logic is bad, gtfo.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 01 2014 17:08 GMT
#2372
Hell if anyone has a town read on me or obi. The. You have to think 2 mafia at least in the 4.

Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 01 2014 17:08 GMT
#2373
On October 02 2014 02:07 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 02:06 StorrZerg wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:57 StorrZerg wrote:
I all Ready explained my reason which from a purely logic stand point.

There is no logic. You literally claim that Obi has to be dumb town because all the other people on the wagon are dumb town.



No his alignment doesn't matter.

I know there are 2 mafia within ve jat ff superbia.

If obi is town, then 3. If not still 2.


There are zero between VE and VE. Superbia looks good. JAT looks good. Your logic is bad, gtfo.


Explain jat.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
October 01 2014 17:09 GMT
#2374
On October 02 2014 02:06 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 01:59 justanothertownie wrote:
On October 02 2014 01:57 StorrZerg wrote:
I all Ready explained my reason which from a purely logic stand point.

There is no logic. You literally claim that Obi has to be dumb town because all the other people on the wagon are dumb town.



No his alignment doesn't matter.

I know there are 2 mafia within ve jat ff superbia.

If obi is town, then 3. If not still 2.


Yeah, so what? That's not a reason to exclude him at all.
Hey you know, I am fairly sure there are 3 mafia between you, VE, Obi, FF and Superbia. So VE has a V in his name. So I know there are at least 2 scum between Obi, FF, Super and you. If VE is town 3 if not still 2.

Do you see the problem here?
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 01 2014 17:09 GMT
#2375
No, I haven't read him. XD

FF and JAT could be mafia, but our best shot is Obi based on D2 wagons. Join me and win, or oppose me and lose. The choice is yours.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 01 2014 17:10 GMT
#2376
I didn't "pick" a favorite wagon. Palmar did something really suspicious and I went after him for it.

It's an easy thing to look at in hindsight and say it's scummy because his flip is already out there.

Furthermore why wouldn't scumStorr have motivation to switch to Palmar? By your own reasoning you should be suspicious of both of us and not just me. But you were just questioning him on his reasoning and gave him a pass without getting an answer.
Retired.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 01 2014 17:12 GMT
#2377
On October 02 2014 02:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't "pick" a favorite wagon. Palmar did something really suspicious and I went after him for it.

It's an easy thing to look at in hindsight and say it's scummy because his flip is already out there.

Furthermore why wouldn't scumStorr have motivation to switch to Palmar? By your own reasoning you should be suspicious of both of us and not just me. But you were just questioning him on his reasoning and gave him a pass without getting an answer.

Because Storr was already on a PASSING townie wagon in Sky unless I'm missing something. That means that he had to draw attention to himself by switching wagons, DRAW FURTHER ATTENTION to himself by making huge posts on the matter, and then STILL look bad because Palmar flipped town WHICH HE WOULD KNOW.

YOU on the other hand were NOT on a wagon. You hadn't chosen a side, so when you finally do choose a side it doesn't look AS suspicious on the surface...but given the flip, it makes it look like you were just going with the flow and voting on the easiest mislynch at the time.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13919 Posts
October 01 2014 17:15 GMT
#2378
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.

Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.

So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.

Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward.
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
ObiWanShinobi
Profile Joined April 2014
United States8089 Posts
October 01 2014 17:17 GMT
#2379
On October 02 2014 02:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 02 2014 02:10 ObiWanShinobi wrote:
I didn't "pick" a favorite wagon. Palmar did something really suspicious and I went after him for it.

It's an easy thing to look at in hindsight and say it's scummy because his flip is already out there.

Furthermore why wouldn't scumStorr have motivation to switch to Palmar? By your own reasoning you should be suspicious of both of us and not just me. But you were just questioning him on his reasoning and gave him a pass without getting an answer.

Because Storr was already on a PASSING townie wagon in Sky unless I'm missing something. That means that he had to draw attention to himself by switching wagons, DRAW FURTHER ATTENTION to himself by making huge posts on the matter, and then STILL look bad because Palmar flipped town WHICH HE WOULD KNOW.

YOU on the other hand were NOT on a wagon. You hadn't chosen a side, so when you finally do choose a side it doesn't look AS suspicious on the surface...but given the flip, it makes it look like you were just going with the flow and voting on the easiest mislynch at the time.


I was already suspicious of Sky. I had chosen a side long beforehand but Palmar came and did something really fucking scummy. So I voted him.

This is what happens when you don't read the game.
Retired.
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16321 Posts
October 01 2014 17:17 GMT
#2380
On October 02 2014 02:15 StorrZerg wrote:
It's simple jat. Either you have a town read on me or obi. Then my logic can apply to you.

Or you must think obi and i are together and 1 in the group.

So maybe it's the best that Obi and i are on the hot seat for the time being. This will force people to either read us together as mafia or one at least one of us town.

Once this point hits, the focus of the day will move forward.

None of this explains why you would ignore Obi for today.
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