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So I herd you liek Ano Hana.. :3 On September 22 2014 17:58 kushm4sta wrote: besides only good anime is dbz all the others are so boring Lolok. + Show Spoiler + Serously though..+ Show Spoiler + No.. + Show Spoiler + in fact.. + Show Spoiler + The point ratio of you being wrong is over 9000. | ||
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Seems like a stretch to call me an afk, since i was sleeping and at work afterwards and it has not even been 24 hours since the game started. On to other things - I fail to see why so many people read kush as town because he did not read the op. Jesus, why would you not read the OP of a game you have signed up for to at least have a minor idea of what you are dealing with in a game? Especially if it is something as unique as having a private QT with someone. He has also not posted much relevant stuff at all, if any, so I think this is far fetched to call him town, or scum for that matter, and people saying "I think that whoever does not read kush as town is an idiot/is scum" is silly and worth looking into. I think hapa's push on geript was okay as a game opener, as geripts posts at that point were the ones that could be picked apart the best, and read scummy if so desired, hence why I agree with what Hapa did. It caused a lot of discussion, which was a pro-town move, regardless of geript's alignment. I also like that DP pushed hapa back for this because it did, again, bring more info on the table,though I am not a fan that he saw what Hapa said as scummy and tunneled him so hard for this. It could have made sense if he would just do it to bring information on the table, and discussions going, but it did not seem so, also proven by the fact that even though he does drop he does somewhat agree with hapa's point later on, he still sees him as scummy. I fail to see the reasoning for still seeing him scummy. geript seems all townish to me, because the way he defended himself seemed believable and logical. I do believe the 3p claim by CR to be legit, because, honestly, it would be extremely silly to fake claim this, considering there is only one 3p in the game, and it does not even have to be a defender. If someone would die from poison, or from being burned, that spells instant gg to the person fake claiming. Furthemore, defender is totally a pro-town role, really, once he saves someone. Even if it were true that saving a scum will not make you town aligned, it would still spell the end of the game for you, so this is not even worth considering. The only decent way for a 3p defender to win, is to align with town. Especially if you claim, because if you do not save anyone by end game, then you can just be disposed of then. With this, I want to say that I very much doubt vayne. I do not see how this logic is not obvious, and I do not see any motivation for town to want to lynch a role like that at D1. VE seems trolly, but from what I've seen in another game I read up on, he did this then too, and was town aligned. Have him as null for now, though I'd prefer a more serious tone in games, because I think being trolly all the time makes you hard to read which is anti town. more to come in a little bit... | ||
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for me, right now, vayne is scummy. I am not done with my analysis yet though. geript - explain why my entry makes you happy to lynch me? Seems a bit fake, considering even what you are saying about VE right now is complimenting what I said about him in my entry post. Promethelax, are you honestly thinking that just asking about masons is enough to be painted as town? Do you really think that kush did not read the OP of the game he signed up for? If we assume he did, would you say that these words would most likely come from a scum kush or a townie kush? | ||
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On September 25 2014 03:26 geript wrote: . MM1 looks slightly better from what he's posted in QT but not enough that I'm sold he's town yet. You either share your gum with the entire class, or don't chew it in front of everybody. | ||
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me and hapa or oats and damdred? Would you say that the chances are high that 3 mafia are among these 4? I know I'm not scum and hapa does not seem like scum either. Both Oats and Damdred have not said anything so far that would strike as anti town or scummy. Why are you sure that there is no scum between DP and Vayne? Does vayne's play so far seem legit and not worth looking into? I'm having a hard time understanding this.. | ||
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The guy's only input so far has been "we have to lynch the 3p" and then stops his vote to vote for oats with no explanation either. How is this not seen as scummy, because it sure as hell seems scummy to me. Vayne, what are your actual thoughts on people now? Don't think Damdred is scum. No scum vibes whatsoever. Nothing from Oats either. geript makes sense, but his PoE thinking is only valid if he is confirmed town. Which he isn't. Not that much coming from MM1 either, so I, personally, do not see why his words are supposed to be so believable, I currently see geript/MM1 as quite a possible mafia pairing aswell. Another note - Seeing how VE is talkative here and CR is anything but -- @VE What is happening in your QT? | ||
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On September 25 2014 20:08 DarthPunk wrote: What does no scum vibes mean? What has damdred done this game in your own words? If geript is confirmed town to himself doesn;t his thinking make perfect sense as he is the one thinking it? Wow this post is the most sould crushing thing I have read all evening. Have you played any other games on this site? Can you link me a town game and a scum game of yours? Why are you still ignoring Vayne. no scum vibes means I do not see him as scummy. He has not really said anything that would strike me as scummy, I at first he mentioned his displeasure with how most of your filter was just saying that hapa is scum, which I also did not like. I like that you pushed him back, but tunelling him so hard, saying he's scum was not a correct move. I also agree that the push on him is uncalled for and seems scummy. He has not actually done anything that would make someone want to paint him scummy. If geript is confirmed town to himself, it does make sense since he is the one thinking it, but my point was that it does not make sense to me, because I do not see him as confirmed town. I have played one game on this site, in the newbie princess mafia recently. you can look it up. | ||
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On September 25 2014 20:29 DarthPunk wrote: Im not ignoring Vayne. I talk to him in my QT with him and from that have no reason to want to lynch him today. As for Damdred. Not seeming to do anything much and not seeming to be scummy IS SCUMMY. that is like the definition of the niche that scum like to fill. What is he saying then? Because I would love to have a reason to not want to lynch him. So far he to me, is what damdred is to you it seems. Except Damdred has said much more, and more importantly, said much more stuff that I actually agree with. Vayne has done none of that. At least not to me. Or anyone else here for that matter except you. | ||
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On September 25 2014 20:44 DarthPunk wrote: Why don't you ask him what he said rather than get it via a third party? What did damdred say In Particular that you agree with? You are as big of a part of that conversation as he is, so it shouldn't matter who I ask. I am generally asking you both though, I don't care who says it, though you did say that what he said makes you not want to lynch him. I just want to know what is it that makes you so determined on that, considering he has only even mentioned 2 people's names altogether in all of his posts combined. Also as for the what did damdred say in particular, please read a few posts above. The post which you said is soul crushing. Did you not read it if you did not see that I already said what Damdred said that I agree with? | ||
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On September 25 2014 21:10 DarthPunk wrote: . As for damdred, if it is so easy to read it is even easier for you to outline Exactly what you agreed with damdred about. And telling me is objectively pro-town so if you are town you should do so. I don't understand. I already said exactly what I agreed with in that post. | ||
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On September 25 2014 22:18 Damdred wrote: The most annoying thing is that some of the people I want to talk to aren't here while I'm awake but are when I sleep. I also hate being called bad by said people, I'm catching up Sucks being from euro. Same feelings here. | ||
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Stuff I agree with: He does not like that most of your filter was calling hapa scum, for as I also pointed out, no good reason. He expresses genuine confusion about the push on him and oats, and he did it from the very beginning once it was first mentioned. He does not agree with geript's methods of doing things, and, obviously, geripts read on him. He has not hid any thoughts and has not been shady. That is not scummy. Scummy is when you give barely any info about yourself so you cannot be read. Your qt with vayne is shady. Damdred is towny in my book, and your book seems silly and bad if you think he's scum. (or you're just butthurt that he didn't agree with you at the beginning of the game.) | ||
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On September 26 2014 03:09 Promethelax wrote: Can people who have played with abuse before tell me if he is usually this wishy washy? This entire post is just an attempt to push the lynch away from himself and onto anywhere else it could stick without actually scum hunting or attempting to find the correct target. DP and Vayne have been been garnering attention up to this point but abuse doesn't say that he thinks either one is scum. Instead he wants geript to call them scum and stop calling him/hapa scum. If I had to pick a single post to lynch someone over I would call this the most lynch worthy post thus far in the game. What? did you even read any of my posts afterwards? Several times did I mention that I think vayne is scummy. Also - deadline comming up, still no info at all from vayne... On September 26 2014 04:37 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Class is about to start, but its probably cause i see a world of hapa/abuse dont really like hapa and i think abuse is easier to lynch. So.. you're trying to lynch me because you don't like hapa.. ? What is this. head out of ass please. | ||
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VE it is. ## vote: VE | ||
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On September 26 2014 05:15 geript wrote: On Abuse, I mean half policy half acting differently half I don't trust Hapa. On VE, I don't hate parts of Hapa's case and I've listed my own reasons multiple times. It's just that my ass is itching and I think he'll probly flip town. How on earth is it policy to lynch an activity like mine, and not policy to lynch Vayne. Seriously. Pls do explain, because I sure as hell can't get this in my skull, yet this has been pushed more than once already. | ||
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On September 26 2014 05:21 Promethelax wrote: Tell me what I'm ignoring so I can refrain from ignoring it. I agree with your vote but you clearly don't. What are your thoughts? Your whole case on me is based on that one post, and because I seem to be wishy washy and have not stated my thoughts on DP and Vayne. This is false, I have done so many times. Read the filter. My thoughts up until a few minutes ago, due to some QT interaction, were that vayne is definitely scum. Not so sure now, but I sure as hell am not going to let him keep playing like this if this continues after D1. I have been null on VE this entire time, because his gameplay is very peculiar, but I trust hapa's judgement in this case, and his vote on CR is silly beyond belief. I don't really have a problem with a lynch on VE. What makes you think I do not agree with my vote? | ||
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On September 26 2014 12:56 geript wrote: Correct. I'd take his opinions with a grain of salt still considering his experience. what the fuck is this, I don't even. Because inexperienced people cannot think strategically and are blind to everything going on in the game? Or should I take this as your godly permission to lurk from now on? Pretty obvious what we should do in case CR flips blue. As previously stated - Lynch/check one person per pair until we hit jackpot. considering the fact that scum will also be shooting people at the next night, we should have our answer in a day or so and you don't need much of a brain to figure this out. | ||
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On September 26 2014 18:09 DarthPunk wrote: That is basically it. There is a fuckload or elitism on this site. Kind of justified because Many of the players here are objectively very skilled. But it also means it takes a while to earn the respect of the vets. Seems counter-productive if you want more people in your community. | ||
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Just to clarify the werewolf role. Does it work only once, or does it work permenantly? The description is not clear. Because if it works permenantly, and the 3P role at the moment is defender, then it makes that person virtually unkillable, and also makes him a confirmed town right up until the endgame if he claims as Vayne did, because werewolf's only weakness is lynches. This seems much too imbalanced and I do not see this role being available, if the 3P does not have KP. If Vayne's claim is real, then there is a 50% chance we will see someone poisoned on N2, if not then it is 100% chance that an arsonist is in the game. Either way this game is basically unwinnable by mafia at this point, since, worst case scenario, the last 3 people are 1 town(or 3P), 1 scum and 1 vayne, with vayne being confirmed town. If the town at the endgame is confirmed town by some means, then it guarantees us a win, considering we catch the 3P in time. | ||
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On September 27 2014 19:34 HaruRH wrote: The werewolf role triggers upon his death. Having a unkillable role is inbalanced. I see. Still, if vayne's claim is not fake, then considering we only have 1 scum after CR, he is unkillable by scum. Town wins if the last 3P role is defender. | ||
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I am not taking CR's claim into account. Because if CR is defender then we have 2 scum alive and then what I said does not apply. This was more aimed at what you said that prome is 99% defender. | ||
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On September 27 2014 20:27 DarthPunk wrote: So everyone just ignoring my case hey? Sorry mustve ignored you. Damn that must be a sucky feeling. | ||
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If Vayne's claim is real and he is a werewolf, that makes him unkillable by scum. Meaning the only way for scum to have a shot at winning at this point, is for the 3P to kill vayne. Why are we not spending any effort at all looking for the 3P since it is the bigger threat at the moment, and it is obvious that they do have KP at this point? Judging by thread presence and confirmed roles so far, I'd put my money on 3P/Scum most likely being MM1. Though, again, this is based purely on thread observation and not meta knowledge. Why MM1? Because going through his filter, he has not many posts, and he mentions 3P a fair ammount,considering his overall post count, and doubting CR being defender, instead of CR being 3P altogether. Also posts like On September 25 2014 16:15 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I still don't think CR is mafia, he is most probably 3p, lynching him today does nothing unless he is the poisoner. I'd rather lynch Damdred Where he tries to delay lynching CR, to reveal that he is not a 3P, before this information was clear to everyone. He was also very wary of Hapa, and expressed that by wanting to lynch me, not hapa. This strikes me as very weird, because I see no reason to not want to lynch the person you think is scummy, instead of the one he shares a qt with, especially in a setup where there is definitely 1 qt with a scum and town/3p together, so my lynch would really provide no information whatsoever in that scenario, still he pushed it forward. Afterwards he keeps being on the phone or in class, as if to stay in the background of the game. Also On September 28 2014 10:57 MysteryMeat1 wrote: is a joke of a post, because it should be pretty obvious at this point that geript is town aligned.LOL, geripts pressure on me, you 3p? And the fact that after being away for so long, all he says is 'I am back boys" instead of anything worth while, and something that actually shows some input. P.S. Complaining about days getting cut in half is not really helping so can we please cut the whining about that and the way this game is hosted out of the thread, since our time is already quite limited? | ||
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On September 28 2014 23:16 geript wrote: Abuse, would you explain to me why you're focusing on Vayne's werewolf claim? On September 28 2014 20:33 abuse wrote: If Vayne's claim is real and he is a werewolf, that makes him unkillable by scum. Meaning the only way for scum to have a shot at winning at this point, is for the 3P to kill vayne. Why are we not spending any effort at all looking for the 3P since it is the bigger threat at the moment, and it is obvious that they do have KP at this point? On September 29 2014 00:58 MysteryMeat1 wrote: @Abuse, geript is confirmed town and there is a reason in qt he knows im town. On September 28 2014 20:33 abuse wrote: Also is a joke of a post, because it should be pretty obvious at this point that geript is town aligned. And the fact that after being away for so long, all he says is 'I am back boys" instead of anything worth while, and something that actually shows some input. Why dont people want to read but ask questions that are already answered? | ||
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Also - Guys what the hell. Where on earth did you get the idea that 3P wins with town? "Survive till the end" means you win when you are the last one standing. This is how it has always been with 3P. Why on earth are you taking DP's word for it(winning with town), when he himself is the 3P? If Oats is the shotgunner, then right now we can safely assume that DP is the arsonist(already mentioned that Defender is not possible in this setup, and if he were the poisoner, someone would have died tonight). Why on earth would an arsonist win with town, when his whole role is based on dousing as many people in gasoline as possible and lighting them up in the endgame? What does that role even have the need to be in the game, if they win in the endgame with town, if they did it would be a town role, not a 3P. As for Scum, with DP claiming 3P, that leaves MM1 as scum. I will stay with my previous post about him, which he really has not addressed in any way either. The "play" with saying he tracked oats, basically just revealed the shotgunner to everyone. It was was a town move if done by town, but was also a scum move if done by scum, because it revealed a town power role to them by forcing Oats to claim. What would Oats do if he was not a shotgunner but just a vanilla, and could not provide proof that he killed kush? Oats would be lynched, that's what. Why on earth would you do this? | ||
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On September 29 2014 14:35 MysteryMeat1 wrote: vote VA and shorten the day, DP, please kill either abuse or grack if arsonist ignites, he will kill more than just "either abuse or grack". | ||
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On September 29 2014 20:51 HaruRH wrote: 3P wins when the game ends and he survives. He can win with both town and mafia. Well that sucks. On September 29 2014 19:03 DarthPunk wrote: Survive to the end. When the game ends I win if I survive. If it was anything else it would be: You win when you have eliminated all other players. But it's not. It is survive to the end. So stfu with your fear mongering idiot. I'd watch what I say, considering you did not get a single read correct during this game and you chose to aid town in an already town biased setup. And you are supposed to be good. What a joke. Also, survive till the end - in all games I played, 3P wins when he is the last one standing - which is the end of the game, if a 3P role is present. That being said. I concede. I don't see a win happening in this setup from this moment. good game folks. On September 27 2014 15:50 geript wrote: I don't think Abuse has any potential shot of being mafia and making this post. Being a newer player and being mafia on a team of CR/VE/Abuse, I don't think anyone could have guided him to make this post. This is the exact 100% down to a tee type of post that newer players who are town and run up against "vet superiority complexes" make. Prome might disagree, but I doubt it. I don't think that this sort of frustration with the air of arrogance that can be at TL can be faked well or even be thought of in order to fake by new scum. If he did, my hat is off to you sir. I will await your hat, sir. | ||
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On September 29 2014 22:22 Damdred wrote: Yea after that last big post you did flinging dirt on dp i figured you were mafia. GG I actually said that becuase I legitly thought that there was no way that there would be a scenario that a 3P could ever possibly win with town, if he has KP. Such a turn is.. weird. Also, props to you. It shouldn't really have given me any scum cred, considering it is against my interests to lynch a 3P at this point, but I guess this is not a newbie game, and I was pretty desperate at that point, because the 3P was not doing what I was expecting him to do. Oh wells. | ||
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On September 29 2014 22:29 DarthPunk wrote: lol. I was playing to my win condition by helping town when they were ahead but not being so productive enough to be shot. Not sure why that makes you so mad. Cause you're bm and arrogant as fk, and I don't like bm and arrogance.You are also not as good as you think you are. No good player would flat out ignore a person's posts in a game. Especially if the person is scum. That and I'm just frustrated and confused, because I never expected a KP 3P role to be on town's side and able to win with town. My whole game depended on you killing town. Which you didn't do, so there is nothing I can do anymore really, especially if Vayne really does turn out to be Werewolf, and I do not have the luxury of trying to find it out. | ||
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On September 29 2014 22:36 DarthPunk wrote: Your winning required me to play my given role INCORRECTLY. So don't try and logically justify your butthurt when I play the role correctly. Well I guess you did play it incorrectly, considering you would have died the next night, because you claimed and I would not have risked you having me doused already. Anyway, now you can safely ignore what I say about you, because I am slightly annoyed with how this game played out, and with your role's wincon. On September 29 2014 22:37 marvellosity wrote: I would add that it is good play to throw your lot in with the side that is favoured True, but it is just batcrap dumb to do it and then complain that the game was boring and and/or too easy or whatever. He did play well considering the role he was given, with the conditions that were in play. I'm just still angry because I thought that 3P cannot win with town, and I expected him to play to that goal. (which would have been harder and more fun) | ||
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On September 29 2014 22:32 The_Templar wrote: Endgame abuse the Otoya Takechi - Mafia Godfather has conceded! The town/3rd party win! Hapahauli/abuse (town/mafia) http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/y4ierN3Z4pppK The link is wrong. The correct one is here http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/Smh59XvBFtU | ||
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On September 30 2014 03:47 Hapahauli wrote: Holy shit was I wrong on abuse wow. GG guys sorreh  | ||
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On September 30 2014 07:00 Koshi wrote: How the fuck does an Arsonist win with town (or scum) in this setup ???????????????? . Yups. My main reason for conceding. :/ | ||
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