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On September 24 2014 07:32 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 07:31 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 07:29 Chairman Ray wrote:On September 24 2014 07:28 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 07:26 Chairman Ray wrote: Should neutrals claim? Neutrals? You mean 3rd parties? Or VT roles? 3rd party On September 24 2014 07:28 Chairman Ray wrote: Since a neutral wins regardless if town or mafia wins, is there any point to keeping them a secret? I certainly wouldn't mind claims, but I don't know what incentive 3rd parties would have to claim. Town doesn't want to lynch 3rd party, mafia doesn't want to kill third party, because it goes against both their win-cons. 3rd party just doesn't want to die. Everyone wins I think.
If a 3rd party wants to claim, they can claim. If not, then they won't. We can't force them to this early in the game.
Our efforts are better spent elsewhere methinks.
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On September 24 2014 07:40 Grackaroni wrote: I guess that narrows CR/VE out of the lynch pool for today.
Incorrect. We lynch who we think is mafia. Not who we find statistically likely to be town or mafia.
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##Vote Grakaroni
I am not a fan of how you so offhandedly dismissed VE from the lynch pool.
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On September 24 2014 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote: Don't think there's anything I really need to do in this game, have fun guys!
Oh no nono. You will get lynched if you don't contribute. Can't let mafia fake-claim and get away with it after all.
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On September 24 2014 07:53 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 07:42 Hapahauli wrote: ##Vote Grakaroni
I am not a fan of how you so offhandedly dismissed VE from the lynch pool. I can understand disagreeing with me but I don't quite understand why this is scummy? Are you implying that I was trying to protect a scum VE before he even posted?
Nah just throwing my vote around 'cause why not.
What you said makes sense. I disagree, but makes sense.
##Unvote
On September 24 2014 07:53 VayneAuthority wrote: CR is basically a mafia medic why arent we lynching him again? there hasnt been an easier d1 lynch in ages. im fine with you correctly pointing out grack's weird dismissal of VE but not with your vote.
I'd much rather lynch mafia than a 3rd party. Also, how is he a mafia medic? If defender saves someone, they win with town, apparently regardless of the alignment of the saved person.
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Yes, he probably is. Why are we lynching him?
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On September 24 2014 08:07 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 08:06 Hapahauli wrote: Yes, he probably is. Why are we lynching him? He is not town. Anyway talk it over chaps. I hope to have a lot to read when I get back.
Yes, but he's the defender - the only 3rd party that can't dick over the town.
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Did you read his role PM? If so, you should understand why your statement does not make sense.
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On September 24 2014 10:33 yamato77 wrote: so uh
hapa is mafia
go
No.
*pout*
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On September 24 2014 10:35 VisceraEyes wrote:I wanted to say this too but I call Hapa mafia like EVERY D1 I've ever played with him. But he REALLY didn't want people to think they can't lynch VE today, which really chaps my ass, because I really DO want people to think they can't lynch VE today.
Hey man, you make about 20 posts, I'll make a case on you, and it'll be all back to normal.
On September 24 2014 10:56 VisceraEyes wrote:So while I AM partnered with Chairman Ray, I'm NOT sure what I think about the Defender claim. Statistically it's more likely that he's town/3p I guess, but does the Defender just claim like that? Like, if he's not intending to save anyone tonight then what's the point of claiming? Was it just because of Damdred (or whoever) asking the third parties to claim that caused him to claim? Think of it from a win-condition perspective. If he's really the Defender then PRESENTLY his win-condition is to survive til endgame. If he makes a save then his win-con changes to a TOWN win condition, but from what I see it looks like PRESENTLY his win-condition is to just survive til end-game. Why wouldn't mafia kill him in the night then? If he's able to interfere with their kills, then there's literally no reason NOT to put a bullet on him REGARDLESS of the fact that he's claimed third party. How about if he actually DOES make a save? MMMEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHHH.....I'm pretty sure I don't believe the claim. I'm not sure what I think this means with regard to his alignment, though I lean mafia. I'll give a definitive answer on that a little later (he's posted exactly once in the QT, so he at the very least knows where it's located.) However it seems like he's claimed that he's done posting for the day. If that's the case then I'm all about lynching him.
CR's claim is legit. I'm annoyed that it is, but it is.
While Oats is correct that a 3rd party might not counter-claim here, it's still risky for mafia to do. It's hard to claim something like this really early since there is a risk you'll be CC'd. You just can't predict what that 3rd party player will do.
So the timing makes it believable in my book. A later claim... probably not.
On September 24 2014 10:46 Damdred wrote: Wwhat do you guys think of vayne atm
Vayne is vayne. Slightly anal-retentive regarding CR, but that's normal for either alignment.
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I really don't like geript. Town points for the person who tells everyone why.
##Vote Geript
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Hello MM - if you were to lynch one person who has posted so far, who would it be? The correct answer may or may not be geript.
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I'll tell you the answer after Yamato and/or MM decide to post. Although you are more than welcome to keep trying on geript or another potential scummer.
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@ MM
What do you make of CR's claim?
RE: Geript
Geript is mafia because his play is completely disjointed with the thread flow.
On September 24 2014 08:17 geript wrote: Oh thank god. I'm not Vayne's partner. Unfortunately I got mystery meat so who knows how that will end up.
On September 24 2014 08:19 geript wrote: I'm half tempted to flip CR to see if VE is confirmed town or not.
On September 24 2014 08:20 geript wrote: Vayne seems like he cares about this game. That kinda makes me want to lynch him too.
On September 24 2014 09:13 geript wrote: I'll claim 3P. That should give me a day to reach a 7 page filter :-P
On September 24 2014 09:24 geript wrote:It's a joke. I assumed anyone who played BH's game would get it. Apparently not.
Geript makes his entrance with these posts, and they completely ignore the current line of discussion. Literally everyone is talking about CR's claim, but geript chooses to ignore this. It would be OK if these posts were useful or provided something informative, but they are largely 1-lined throwaway comments ( and 1 terrible joke) that "act confident" but don't say anything of value.
Then the next time he returns:
On September 24 2014 10:33 geript wrote: CR-VE Hapa-Abuse Vayne--DP Grack--Kush but Kush isn't on the sign up Geript--MysteryMeat Oats--Damdred
So here's where we're at.
He posts this, which is so typical of someone trying to appear useful without actually being so. In his filter he still has yet to even touch the CR stuff, which is an event that everyone else so far immediately locked onto and provided input.
So basically, geript's play so far has been making throw-away "confident" posts that add nothing to discussion while ignoring the current flow of discussion - a mentality I associate with an early-game mafia trying too hard to fit in.
Lastly, as a result of my provocations:
On September 24 2014 11:45 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 11:44 Hapahauli wrote: I'll tell you the answer after Yamato and/or MM decide to post. Although you are more than welcome to keep trying on geript or another potential scummer. No sir. You are not going to call me scum Hapa. If you even think it one more time I will lynch the fuck out of you.
This "come at me bro" post is just the worst.
And this is not a bullshit Day 1 read - I'm actually pretty confident about this one.
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These town-points are getting cold people.
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On September 24 2014 12:44 yamato77 wrote: I don't see much I would deem particularly interesting in that filter, Hapa.
Exactly.
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On September 24 2014 12:50 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 12:47 yamato77 wrote: I didn't think Hapa was mafia
I just said something to get a reaction from people
It was a boring moment in the thread. And do you think Hapa knew that? Is there some obvious reason for not questioning you on that throw away read? Cause if you called ME mafia I would be all up in your grill about why, especially if you provided zero reasoning, and I think Town!Hapa would want to know your thought process also, rather than just ignoring it which is essentially what he did. What do you think of my hapa post?
Of course I knew that.
Do you think I"m the densest player in the world?
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