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Hapahauli
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On September 25 2014 08:40 kushm4sta wrote: however i would counterpoint with 1 bare minimum rationale - easy not scummy 2 follows thread sentiment - giving opinions on thread sentiment isn't scummy. being disconnected i think is more scummy. Everything can be counter-pointed this early in the game kush. We just have to decide how plausible something is or not. | ||
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On September 25 2014 08:42 MysteryMeat1 wrote: lets all ignore my postings... Well I'm less interested in hearing you justify yourself than hearing your non-VE reads. | ||
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On September 25 2014 08:36 geript wrote: First off, my townread on MM1 isn't terribly strong. It's mostly based off of him posting things in the QT between when I was asleep and when I woke up that pretty heavily mirrored where I was at in general without me posting those thoughts anywhere. You can understand why this is very unsatisfying to the rest of us, no? As for abuse, I just generally like the tone of his posting. He sounds enthusiastic, is fairly attentive to the thread (I like how he pointed out your "read" of MM). When you jumped on him, he seemed pretty calm and reasonable about the whole thing, which I liked alot coming out of a not-so-experienced player: On September 25 2014 03:38 abuse wrote: I mean the way he posts mainly. Also, I don't doubt his push is serious, though I do not really agree with it, because I do not see hapa being scummy. for me, right now, vayne is scummy. I am not done with my analysis yet though. geript - explain why my entry makes you happy to lynch me? Seems a bit fake, considering even what you are saying about VE right now is complimenting what I said about him in my entry post. Promethelax, are you honestly thinking that just asking about masons is enough to be painted as town? Do you really think that kush did not read the OP of the game he signed up for? If we assume he did, would you say that these words would most likely come from a scum kush or a townie kush? Certainly not the strongest town-read ever, but at the same time, I'm not lynching him today. No way. | ||
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Also, how did I pass on Oats/Damdred? I find Damdred null. I find Oats town for reasons that I mentioned. I don't think it gets much clearer. | ||
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On September 25 2014 08:52 MysteryMeat1 wrote: oats/damdred, oats play soo far has reminded me of when we played together in cell, Also not a fan of damdred who makes the case with oats in the morning and doesn't seem to re-evaluate whats happened throughout the day. Can you elaborate on this? If Oats' play reminds you of his play in Cell III, in what ways does it do so? Describe Oats' mafia play in Cell III. As for Damdred, what makes you think that he hasn't re-evaluated? Also, why is failure to change reads a scumtell? | ||
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Your read on me seems to ebb and flow with how much I read you as mafia. | ||
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@ MM: On September 25 2014 09:06 MysteryMeat1 wrote: I've only played the cell game with oats, and in cell he barely contributed at all. He was not memorable and hasn't played differently than that game. I think a few things have happened this game, and damdred has been keeping up on it. Oats also hasn't really said anything but calling geript and DP mafia. I don't think failing to change reads is a scumtell, i think newer information needs to be taken into account, and if it supports your reads or disagrees with your reads then it matters. WEll you realize this is fairly incomplete logic on both players right? So why are you scumreading Damdred? And as for Oats, is that what he did in cell? Just call two people mafia over and over again? Is that different from his town-play? | ||
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On September 25 2014 09:13 MysteryMeat1 wrote: Oats only called people mafia like once. While i've only played one game with oats, when he was mafia, i kind of forgot he was even in the game until later on. Ok so just general inactivity. Damdred hasn't taken anything into account, and i felt that he only posted his thoughts on DP in a way that he was trying to push a mislynch. In what way? You make a lot of these general statements but fail to explain them until I pull them out of you. It also seems super scummy that both players would talk about why one person would be scum in a qt. Why? What have you and geript talked about in your QT? | ||
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On September 25 2014 09:28 yamato77 wrote: well hapa, geript gave you what you wanted Hah. In a way yes. It's hard not to see his stuff as genuine. I liked this quite a bit: 5 Abuse/Hapa. Abuse has done nothing and honestly is a decent policy lynch. Hapa's been very towny and very scummy. I really don't in any way understand his thought process behind relying so heavily on tone reads. Learning how to do it, fine. Putting it into practice fine. Doing so while not equally making good pushes against people for logical reasons that actually carry weight... very bad. If there's a mafia/mafia pair in the vets, this is most likely it. I guess I have been talked out of it once more. | ||
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On September 25 2014 09:59 geript wrote: Yo Hapa, explain to me why you were so keen on Abuse not being shot or lynched as a test to your alignment? I'm not? I just don't think he's mafia. Do you have any reasons to think he's mafia? | ||
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On September 25 2014 10:13 geript wrote: lol I do find it a bit funny that we're both kinda just ignoring Vayne right now. Sort of. I just need to re-read. | ||
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I havent' seen a single person disagree with my case. | ||
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On September 25 2014 12:53 geript wrote: Look at Damdred specifically what I posted. I did and it's an interesting observation, but that's about it. It's plausible to talk with a null read about scum-reads. The QT is there... it's hard to ignore it unless you're super suspicious of your partner. Hell being on the same page isn't necessarily a bad thing. It would be one thing if he thought Oats was mafia. Oats null? I'm very unconvinced by the argument. At the very least, it's not stronger than the one on VE. | ||
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On September 25 2014 13:06 geript wrote: I disagree. The odds of VE/CR being a mafia/mafia pair is reasonably low. We both agree on that. Where's the double mafia pair then Hapa? Why care about the mafia pair? I care about my mafia reads. VE is by far my strongest. I have a good case on him, apparently everyone thinks I have a good case on him, so lets lynch him. As for the mafia pair, I don't know. I'm re-reading. If I have an opinion worth posting, I'll post it. | ||
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