Devil's Riddle Mafia - Page 3

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 20:07 GMT

#1116

Everyone lay a vote down. I don't care who it is for right yet, we'll argue about that for a bit. Lay a vote down and put your noose where your mouth is.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 20:11 GMT

#1120

Geript: unvote CR and vote someone worth lynching.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 20:12 GMT

#1121

On September 26 2014 05:11 Hapahauli wrote:

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On September 26 2014 05:09 geript wrote:

On September 26 2014 04:48 Hapahauli wrote:
We're still lynching VE.

On September 26 2014 03:23 VisceraEyes wrote:

On September 26 2014 03:13 Promethelax wrote:
I find myself suspicious of my partner. Yamato hasn't done anything really in qt. I've been using it more than I thought I would since I wanted to make sure we read each other as town since, if we are both town, we are the strongest town-town pairing.

In qt and in thread Yam has posted little one liners and argued with DP. That is it.

He said he would talk to me about his reads since he thinks I am town but he simply hasn't. The last thing he said was that VA is someone he ignores.

I'm not terribly interested in lynching Yamato today but it is something I would like to hear opinions on. I see people giving him a town read but I don't see why.

I think I want to lynch my QT mate Chairman Ray. Like - I was giving him a pass because claim, but I've been like trying to exchange thoughts and ideas in our QT and there's just no reciprocation whatsoever. He's not playing the game in the QT, and he's not playing the game in the thread. He's not trying to with the game with town, frankly he's not trying to win the game as any alignment. I don't think he's playing like a third-party who turns into a town. So I want to lynch him because that's the role he's claimed.

Any questions?

##Vote: Chairman Ray

How can you make this post and have read the thread?

It's a complete cop-out vote. Put your vote on someone that provides no impact, that everyone abandoned for today, and provides literally no useful information towards finding mafia.

Regarding my meta case, DP did bring up a good point about him going after DP in "The Game." So that part of my meta case was wrong - didn't expect to have to go back 20 town games. Regardless, I do not believe town-VE is the type of player that's town-reading MM1 and Damdred so early into the game. That's very, very unlike any of his town games, including "the game."

We need to start consolidating. The people voting Damdred and Oats still have not made a case on them and are doing some weird process of elimination thing, which is not an adequate reason to lynch someone.

On September 26 2014 03:26 geript wrote:
@Prome Here is a link to his only game here; idk if (s)he's played elsewhere. At first glance it seems pretty standard new player flaws and was modkilled N2 (I'm assuming for inactivity but I'll doublecheck).

On September 26 2014 03:35 geript wrote:

On August 27 2014 19:07 abuse wrote:
meatpudding
His reply to my initial first 4 questions satisfies me deeply (no perv intended)
He is giving an experienced player vibe, even though this is a newbie game.

He seems to be the only person to actually read my posts how I intended them to be read, and does good analysis of the situation.
Same as Barakos, even if he turns out to be scum in the end(which I also do not believe to be the case), I think having him along the way will still help town a lot.
His posts are logical and have meaning behind them. He does not try to ignore questions and try to negatively push any flaws he sees in others' posts. He asks about them instead of attacking.

Also - I do not see him to be the cop, I do see him as town though.

This is the only type of thing I really have to fault when comparing the two. He earlyish into D1 (started on p6 and he posted a series of these at p11) that he goes through a bit methodically about reading people. He hasn't really done this at all. He seems really detached in general in comparison.

There's a minor townie point for him and his gum comment on me as that type of attitude pervades his newbie filter, but the rest of what he posted seems pretty different actually.

Here's something to look at. Both Prome and I agreed on it.

Yeah I read that game too. But making a meta tell of a person based on 1 game is... not good.

I brought up a point on abuse being scummy that wasn't to do with meta (because I agree, you can't make a call here. Even more so because newbie.) Please address it.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 20:18 GMT

#1126

On September 26 2014 05:15 geript wrote:

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Honestly I'm really torn between Abuse and VE with a side of CR. Like I think there's almost no way CR is the martyr 3P right now. He's not at all playing like he's going to end with a "win with town" wincon; that's really telling for me. He also spend most of the day doing nothing and the other half of the day pretending he's in some lala world. I don't see him getting any better; i don't think his flip helps with VE, but I think we'll end up lynching him at some point so I'd rather clear him now before he kills a town.

On Abuse, I mean half policy half acting differently half I don't trust Hapa. On VE, I don't hate parts of Hapa's case and I've listed my own reasons multiple times. It's just that my ass is itching and I think he'll probly flip town.

I had a dream about the balance for this game. It suggested that the 3p has to be anti-town because 10-3 is essentially balanced to begin with. 10-3 with mason pairs is very town favoured, even more so since we know the alignments of the pairs. Since there is a 3p it has to be anti town to make up for the masoning of the players.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 20:20 GMT

#1130

On September 26 2014 05:17 Hapahauli wrote:

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You mean this?

It seems like a pretty typical newbie post, no? Plus he's very consistently suspicious of Vayne in my conversations with him in the QT, so I think that post looks better to me. Perhaps unsatisfying to you guys, but w/e.

I really don't want to get into the mindset of forcing myself to defend abuse, because my reasons for not wanting to lynch him are more along the lines of "how could everyone see VE's vote on CR and not want to lynch him with fire?"

Yes I agree. I'm talking about d2 lynch at this point. I'm just curious since I assume you have more ideas than the rest of us on your partner who seems scummy to me.

Interestingly once we lynch Ve and assuming he flips scum everyone's partner will be confirmed town to them. Which should be excellent; we'll have five mason pairs who are conf town to each other.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 20:21 GMT

#1132

On September 26 2014 05:18 abuse wrote:
Sure. Ignore everything I say.

VE it is.

## vote: VE

Tell me what I'm ignoring so I can refrain from ignoring it. I agree with your vote but you clearly don't. What are your thoughts?

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 20:31 GMT

#1136

On September 26 2014 05:27 abuse wrote:

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Your whole case on me is based on that one post, and because I seem to be wishy washy and have not stated my thoughts on DP and Vayne.
This is false, I have done so many times. Read the filter.

My thoughts up until a few minutes ago, due to some QT interaction, were that vayne is definitely scum. Not so sure now, but I sure as hell am not going to let him keep playing like this if this continues after D1. I have been null on VE this entire time, because his gameplay is very peculiar, but I trust hapa's judgement in this case, and his vote on CR is silly beyond belief.
I don't really have a problem with a lynch on VE. What makes you think I do not agree with my vote?

The post I was quoting is why I doubt your belief in this vote. You don't seem to want to vote VE. You are very wishy washy, and your post that I was talking about is very scum oriented; between the rest of your play starting to pick up a bit and Hapa's word I am willing to let you go for a day.

I'm interested in seeing you push your own lynches over the next cycle though. Whatever you believe about your play thus far you've been essentially a non-entity.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 20:32 GMT

#1138

Oh you have got to be kidding me. We only have an hour and a half to consolidate and we need at least two more to come in and be willing to vote VE.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 20:33 GMT

#1140

Geript and MM1 you are both here. Get your votes onto VE. Do it now.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 20:37 GMT

#1142

On September 26 2014 05:35 geript wrote:
I'm willing to switch over if we need a lynch. I might as well because I don't think I'm going to get you to switch prome which we would need to get everyone else there. I still think it's a mislynch. No clear reason why; especially since I'm pretty sure at least half the people on him are town. Call it feels idk, I just don't feel comfortable with it.

##unvote
##vote VisceraEyes

Thanks buddy. We need a lynch. I don't think we can get one on anyone else, Even less so with VE's vote on CR and follow up vanishing act. VE simply has to die.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 20:48 GMT

#1145

On September 26 2014 05:44 geript wrote:
So basically we need MM, DP, Oats, Kush, or Vayne to switch. Maybe CR doesn't vote and gets modkilled.

That is exactly what we need and I have to go to work. Your job is to camp the thread and as soon as one of those guys posts make him vote VE. We need a lynch. DP has said he'd be back for EOD but just in case he isn't back get one of the other bastards to do it.

I leave thread in your capable hands. Make sure we get a lynch.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 22:15 GMT

#1224

The fuck is bonded?

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 22:18 GMT

#1227

Can you explain why you thought the VE lynch was uncontested? I had to babysit the thread into voting him at the last minute.

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 25 2014 22:24 GMT

#1230

On September 26 2014 07:20 Grackaroni wrote:

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Because nobody else was being considered for the lynch. Ve himself threw away his vote on CR and gave up.

Are you DP?

Promethelax

Canada7089 Posts

September 26 2014 10:05 GMT

#1269

On September 26 2014 18:41 abuse wrote:

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Seems counter-productive if you want more people in your community.

If you prove worth listening to people will listen to you, that is how it works in everything. This site has a tone of talent when it comes to mafia and so we often ignore newer payers who are less talented. That isn't the best way to be I agree but it is how we are. If you want us to listin to you say something worth listening to instead of bitching about how we view you.