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On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 12:51 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 12:50 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:47 yamato77 wrote:
I didn't think Hapa was mafia
I just said something to get a reaction from people
It was a boring moment in the thread. And do you think Hapa knew that? Is there some obvious reason for not questioning you on that throw away read? Cause if you called ME mafia I would be all up in your grill about why, especially if you provided zero reasoning, and I think Town!Hapa would want to know your thought process also, rather than just ignoring it which is essentially what he did. What do you think of my hapa post? Of course I knew that. Do you think I"m the densest player in the world? How did you know that? What evidence was there that the read was not genuine?
Because I dont' think like a brick.
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On September 24 2014 13:00 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 12:56 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:51 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 12:50 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:47 yamato77 wrote:
I didn't think Hapa was mafia
I just said something to get a reaction from people
It was a boring moment in the thread. And do you think Hapa knew that? Is there some obvious reason for not questioning you on that throw away read? Cause if you called ME mafia I would be all up in your grill about why, especially if you provided zero reasoning, and I think Town!Hapa would want to know your thought process also, rather than just ignoring it which is essentially what he did. What do you think of my hapa post? Of course I knew that. Do you think I"m the densest player in the world? How did you know that? What evidence was there that the read was not genuine? Because I dont' think like a brick. Correct there was no evidence. A townie would question Yamato for that. Hell the first thing I thought when I read that was "why?" but you just ignored it. That is scummy.
Vayne could very well be scum. He basically has a hard on for lynching the least threatening third party we could have in this game. I mean, sure, I could lynch third party. But I would want to try and lynch mafia first.
Ok.
Given that Yamato and I have an extensive history, why should I feel remotely threatened by something he does all the time? There are things not worth caring about. For some reason, you think my meta is that I"m reactionary to every time my name is mentioned.
Which is far from the truth.
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On September 24 2014 13:07 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:00 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:56 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:51 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 12:50 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:47 yamato77 wrote:
I didn't think Hapa was mafia
I just said something to get a reaction from people
It was a boring moment in the thread. And do you think Hapa knew that? Is there some obvious reason for not questioning you on that throw away read? Cause if you called ME mafia I would be all up in your grill about why, especially if you provided zero reasoning, and I think Town!Hapa would want to know your thought process also, rather than just ignoring it which is essentially what he did. What do you think of my hapa post? Of course I knew that. Do you think I"m the densest player in the world? How did you know that? What evidence was there that the read was not genuine? Because I dont' think like a brick. Correct there was no evidence. A townie would question Yamato for that. Hell the first thing I thought when I read that was "why?" but you just ignored it. That is scummy.
Vayne could very well be scum. He basically has a hard on for lynching the least threatening third party we could have in this game. I mean, sure, I could lynch third party. But I would want to try and lynch mafia first. Ok. Given that Yamato and I have an extensive history, why should I feel remotely threatened by something he does all the time? There are things not worth caring about. For some reason, you think my meta is that I"m reactionary to every time my name is mentioned. Which is far from the truth. No i think your meta is to try and figure out why people do/say stuff and there is a distinct lack of that. I also think your geript case looks and feels contrived, none of your stated explanations for scum!geript are that convincing and yet you are confident in your read for a reason I can't fathom.
For someone who hates bad meta cases, you are really bad at meta.
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On September 24 2014 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 13:08 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:07 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:00 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:56 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:51 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 12:50 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:47 yamato77 wrote:
I didn't think Hapa was mafia
I just said something to get a reaction from people
It was a boring moment in the thread. And do you think Hapa knew that? Is there some obvious reason for not questioning you on that throw away read? Cause if you called ME mafia I would be all up in your grill about why, especially if you provided zero reasoning, and I think Town!Hapa would want to know your thought process also, rather than just ignoring it which is essentially what he did. What do you think of my hapa post? Of course I knew that. Do you think I"m the densest player in the world? How did you know that? What evidence was there that the read was not genuine? Because I dont' think like a brick. Correct there was no evidence. A townie would question Yamato for that. Hell the first thing I thought when I read that was "why?" but you just ignored it. That is scummy.
Vayne could very well be scum. He basically has a hard on for lynching the least threatening third party we could have in this game. I mean, sure, I could lynch third party. But I would want to try and lynch mafia first. Ok. Given that Yamato and I have an extensive history, why should I feel remotely threatened by something he does all the time? There are things not worth caring about. For some reason, you think my meta is that I"m reactionary to every time my name is mentioned. Which is far from the truth. No i think your meta is to try and figure out why people do/say stuff and there is a distinct lack of that. I also think your geript case looks and feels contrived, none of your stated explanations for scum!geript are that convincing and yet you are confident in your read for a reason I can't fathom. For someone who hates bad meta cases, you are really bad at meta. Or I am amazing and you are scum :D
Which do you think is more likely?
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On September 24 2014 13:14 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 13:12 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:08 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:07 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:00 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:56 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:51 Hapahauli wrote:
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Of course I knew that.
Do you think I"m the densest player in the world? How did you know that? What evidence was there that the read was not genuine? Because I dont' think like a brick. Correct there was no evidence. A townie would question Yamato for that. Hell the first thing I thought when I read that was "why?" but you just ignored it. That is scummy.
Vayne could very well be scum. He basically has a hard on for lynching the least threatening third party we could have in this game. I mean, sure, I could lynch third party. But I would want to try and lynch mafia first. Ok. Given that Yamato and I have an extensive history, why should I feel remotely threatened by something he does all the time? There are things not worth caring about. For some reason, you think my meta is that I"m reactionary to every time my name is mentioned. Which is far from the truth. No i think your meta is to try and figure out why people do/say stuff and there is a distinct lack of that. I also think your geript case looks and feels contrived, none of your stated explanations for scum!geript are that convincing and yet you are confident in your read for a reason I can't fathom. For someone who hates bad meta cases, you are really bad at meta. Or I am amazing and you are scum :D Which do you think is more likely? I think you are scum.
This is going nowhere.
Let me know when you're ready to do productive things. Like lynching geript.
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Honestly DP, you don't even have to understand my case beyond what Damdred said:
On September 24 2014 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I can get behind a Geript lynch
##Vote: Geript Why? What is so convincing about hapa's case on geript that makes you able to get behind a lynch on him? Geript's posts just feel really awkward to me so I guess I like Hapa's narrative. Not realizing he has a qt doesn't really help his case.
Think about how awkard geript's posts sound in the context of the thread. There is a clear conversation topic that everyone is discussing (CR's claim), then he enters the thread and posts completely useless crap, then a summary post of pairings.
On September 24 2014 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 13:22 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:14 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:12 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:08 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:07 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:00 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:56 Hapahauli wrote:
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Because I dont' think like a brick. Correct there was no evidence. A townie would question Yamato for that. Hell the first thing I thought when I read that was "why?" but you just ignored it. That is scummy.
Vayne could very well be scum. He basically has a hard on for lynching the least threatening third party we could have in this game. I mean, sure, I could lynch third party. But I would want to try and lynch mafia first. Ok. Given that Yamato and I have an extensive history, why should I feel remotely threatened by something he does all the time? There are things not worth caring about. For some reason, you think my meta is that I"m reactionary to every time my name is mentioned. Which is far from the truth. No i think your meta is to try and figure out why people do/say stuff and there is a distinct lack of that. I also think your geript case looks and feels contrived, none of your stated explanations for scum!geript are that convincing and yet you are confident in your read for a reason I can't fathom. For someone who hates bad meta cases, you are really bad at meta. Or I am amazing and you are scum :D Which do you think is more likely? I think you are scum. This is going nowhere. Let me know when you're ready to do productive things. Like lynching geript. I'm being productive. Why don't you try and convince me of geript being scum if you are so certain?
See: above
I generally don't care to argue with the one person in every one of my town games that always finds me scummy on day 1. It's a chore, and a waste of my time given that everyone else will read me as town.
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On September 24 2014 13:32 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 13:27 Hapahauli wrote:Honestly DP, you don't even have to understand my case beyond what Damdred said: On September 24 2014 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I can get behind a Geript lynch
##Vote: Geript Why? What is so convincing about hapa's case on geript that makes you able to get behind a lynch on him? Geript's posts just feel really awkward to me so I guess I like Hapa's narrative. Not realizing he has a qt doesn't really help his case. Think about how awkard geript's posts sound in the context of the thread. There is a clear conversation topic that everyone is discussing (CR's claim), then he enters the thread and posts completely useless crap, then a summary post of pairings. On September 24 2014 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:22 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:14 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:12 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:08 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:07 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:03 Hapahauli wrote:
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Ok.
Given that Yamato and I have an extensive history, why should I feel remotely threatened by something he does all the time? There are things not worth caring about. For some reason, you think my meta is that I"m reactionary to every time my name is mentioned.
Which is far from the truth. No i think your meta is to try and figure out why people do/say stuff and there is a distinct lack of that. I also think your geript case looks and feels contrived, none of your stated explanations for scum!geript are that convincing and yet you are confident in your read for a reason I can't fathom. For someone who hates bad meta cases, you are really bad at meta. Or I am amazing and you are scum :D Which do you think is more likely? I think you are scum. This is going nowhere. Let me know when you're ready to do productive things. Like lynching geript. I'm being productive. Why don't you try and convince me of geript being scum if you are so certain? See: above I generally don't care to argue with the one person in every one of my town games that always finds me scummy on day 1. It's a chore, and a waste of my time given that everyone else will read me as town. I don't think you are scummy every time you are town at all. So that is bullshit. Not engaging in a discourse is anti-town and if people read you as town from what you have contributed thus far well I would be appalled honestly.
Again, not worth my time.
What makes Geript more likely to be scum over a townie who didn't read his pm properly and was just talking shit at the start of the game?
Because this is more than just him not reading his PM properly. This is him entering the thread and posting for the sake of posting as opposed to reading the thread.
Odds are that a player who does something like this is mafia. Not a "townie who is talking shit."
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On September 24 2014 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 13:35 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:32 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:27 Hapahauli wrote:Honestly DP, you don't even have to understand my case beyond what Damdred said: On September 24 2014 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I can get behind a Geript lynch
##Vote: Geript Why? What is so convincing about hapa's case on geript that makes you able to get behind a lynch on him? Geript's posts just feel really awkward to me so I guess I like Hapa's narrative. Not realizing he has a qt doesn't really help his case. Think about how awkard geript's posts sound in the context of the thread. There is a clear conversation topic that everyone is discussing (CR's claim), then he enters the thread and posts completely useless crap, then a summary post of pairings. On September 24 2014 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:22 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:14 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:12 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:08 Hapahauli wrote:
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For someone who hates bad meta cases, you are really bad at meta. Or I am amazing and you are scum :D Which do you think is more likely? I think you are scum. This is going nowhere. Let me know when you're ready to do productive things. Like lynching geript. I'm being productive. Why don't you try and convince me of geript being scum if you are so certain? See: above I generally don't care to argue with the one person in every one of my town games that always finds me scummy on day 1. It's a chore, and a waste of my time given that everyone else will read me as town. I don't think you are scummy every time you are town at all. So that is bullshit. Not engaging in a discourse is anti-town and if people read you as town from what you have contributed thus far well I would be appalled honestly. Again, not worth my time. What makes Geript more likely to be scum over a townie who didn't read his pm properly and was just talking shit at the start of the game? Because this is more than just him not reading his PM properly. This is him entering the thread and posting for the sake of posting as opposed to reading the thread. Odds are that a player who does something like this is mafia. Not a "townie who is talking shit." I think mafia are more likely to read the thread properly and less likely to shitpost like that.
I think you don't know how to scumhunt.
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On September 24 2014 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 13:35 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:32 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:27 Hapahauli wrote:Honestly DP, you don't even have to understand my case beyond what Damdred said: On September 24 2014 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I can get behind a Geript lynch
##Vote: Geript Why? What is so convincing about hapa's case on geript that makes you able to get behind a lynch on him? Geript's posts just feel really awkward to me so I guess I like Hapa's narrative. Not realizing he has a qt doesn't really help his case. Think about how awkard geript's posts sound in the context of the thread. There is a clear conversation topic that everyone is discussing (CR's claim), then he enters the thread and posts completely useless crap, then a summary post of pairings. On September 24 2014 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:22 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:14 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:12 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:10 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:08 Hapahauli wrote:
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For someone who hates bad meta cases, you are really bad at meta. Or I am amazing and you are scum :D Which do you think is more likely? I think you are scum. This is going nowhere. Let me know when you're ready to do productive things. Like lynching geript. I'm being productive. Why don't you try and convince me of geript being scum if you are so certain? See: above I generally don't care to argue with the one person in every one of my town games that always finds me scummy on day 1. It's a chore, and a waste of my time given that everyone else will read me as town. I don't think you are scummy every time you are town at all. So that is bullshit. Not engaging in a discourse is anti-town and if people read you as town from what you have contributed thus far well I would be appalled honestly. Again, not worth my time. What makes Geript more likely to be scum over a townie who didn't read his pm properly and was just talking shit at the start of the game? Because this is more than just him not reading his PM properly. This is him entering the thread and posting for the sake of posting as opposed to reading the thread. Odds are that a player who does something like this is mafia. Not a "townie who is talking shit." I think mafia are more likely to read the thread properly and less likely to shitpost like that.
See the thing is that this is explanation is not likely. For example, take a look at this in geript's filter:
On September 24 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
CR-VE
Hapa-Abuse
Vayne--DP
Grack--Kush but Kush isn't on the sign up
Geript--MysteryMeat
Oats--Damdred
So here's where we're at.
Here's something that shows that he did sort of read the thread and is trying to contribute.
The key word here is "sort-of".
Mafia is about finding out who is deceiving you. If geript truly didn't read a damn thing and shitposted the whole filter, you might have an argument. That is a plausible town behavior. However this is not the behavior that geript is exhibiting.
He enters the thread, shitposts, then attemps to contribute with a post that clearly read every single partner claim, then "come-at-me-bro's", which is very inconsistent.
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On September 24 2014 13:40 yamato77 wrote:
DP tryharding is adorable.
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Ok I'm starting to be too much of a dick.
I'll re-write my case into something a little more presentable.
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On September 24 2014 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 13:41 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:35 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:32 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:27 Hapahauli wrote:Honestly DP, you don't even have to understand my case beyond what Damdred said: On September 24 2014 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 12:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I can get behind a Geript lynch
##Vote: Geript Why? What is so convincing about hapa's case on geript that makes you able to get behind a lynch on him? Geript's posts just feel really awkward to me so I guess I like Hapa's narrative. Not realizing he has a qt doesn't really help his case. Think about how awkard geript's posts sound in the context of the thread. There is a clear conversation topic that everyone is discussing (CR's claim), then he enters the thread and posts completely useless crap, then a summary post of pairings. On September 24 2014 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:22 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:14 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:12 Hapahauli wrote:
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Which do you think is more likely?
I think you are scum. This is going nowhere. Let me know when you're ready to do productive things. Like lynching geript. I'm being productive. Why don't you try and convince me of geript being scum if you are so certain? See: above I generally don't care to argue with the one person in every one of my town games that always finds me scummy on day 1. It's a chore, and a waste of my time given that everyone else will read me as town. I don't think you are scummy every time you are town at all. So that is bullshit. Not engaging in a discourse is anti-town and if people read you as town from what you have contributed thus far well I would be appalled honestly. Again, not worth my time. What makes Geript more likely to be scum over a townie who didn't read his pm properly and was just talking shit at the start of the game? Because this is more than just him not reading his PM properly. This is him entering the thread and posting for the sake of posting as opposed to reading the thread. Odds are that a player who does something like this is mafia. Not a "townie who is talking shit." I think mafia are more likely to read the thread properly and less likely to shitpost like that. See the thing is that this is explanation is not likely. For example, take a look at this in geript's filter: On September 24 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
CR-VE
Hapa-Abuse
Vayne--DP
Grack--Kush but Kush isn't on the sign up
Geript--MysteryMeat
Oats--Damdred
So here's where we're at.
Here's something that shows that he did sort of read the thread and is trying to contribute. The key word here is "sort-of". Mafia is about finding out who is deceiving you. If geript truly didn't read a damn thing and shitposted the whole filter, you might have an argument. That is a plausible town behavior. However this is not the behavior that geript is exhibiting. He enters the thread, shitposts, then attemps to contribute with a post that clearly read every single partner claim, then "come-at-me-bro's", which is very inconsistent. Hmmmm. I guess that is a good point actually. It shows that Geript is not invested in being actually productive. I'm still not sure that makes him mafia though.
Ok cool atleast we're somewhat on the same page then.
We're less than 24 hours into day one, and I think that's as good a reason of any to vote someone. Hell if I had evidence that someone wasn't being invested in being productive, I'd probably vote them 48 hours in as well.
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On September 24 2014 13:45 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 13:44 yamato77 wrote:On September 24 2014 13:41 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:40 yamato77 wrote:
DP tryharding is adorable. What you think of hapa yamato? Give reasons. Hapa likes his early game tunnels. Yes he does. Sorry but this is garbage Yamato.
Bro. Have you played with me before?
Like... do you remember the things I've done to you?
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What's so funny is that I've intentionally hard-tunneled him for the lolz in like 3 of my town games.
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I'm confused.
So you conceded I made a good point in my case against geript, and one of the main reasons you think I'm mafia is because my case was fabricated.
This doesn't really hold.
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On September 24 2014 13:52 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 13:51 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm confused.
So you conceded I made a good point in my case against geript, and one of the main reasons you think I'm mafia is because my case was fabricated.
This doesn't really hold. Do mafia never make good points in their cases on townies? If that was the case this game would be really really easy.
Of course mafia and town can.
The key here is mafia and town.
You're using a null tell to call me mafia.
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On September 24 2014 13:58 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 13:53 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:52 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:51 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm confused.
So you conceded I made a good point in my case against geript, and one of the main reasons you think I'm mafia is because my case was fabricated.
This doesn't really hold. Do mafia never make good points in their cases on townies? If that was the case this game would be really really easy. Of course mafia and town can. The key here is mafia and town. You're using a null tell to call me mafia. No. I think the way you are behaving in totality is scummy also, I just used that case as a focal point of some pressure because it felt so contrived, but conceded that the case made at least one reasonable point.
"In totality" huh.
Tell me more.
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If I "make a good point" on someone, a rational townie would sit down, say "wait a minute", and reconsider his/her read on that person.
Instead, I made a "good point" that doesn't make geript suspicious? How does that make sense? How is it a good point?
Are you intentionally trying to tunnel me or something? What's the deal?
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On September 24 2014 14:02 kushm4sta wrote:
3 person game right here.
The 4th slot is open for anyone who'd like to join in on the fun.
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On September 24 2014 14:04 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 24 2014 13:59 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:58 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:53 Hapahauli wrote:On September 24 2014 13:52 DarthPunk wrote:On September 24 2014 13:51 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm confused.
So you conceded I made a good point in my case against geript, and one of the main reasons you think I'm mafia is because my case was fabricated.
This doesn't really hold. Do mafia never make good points in their cases on townies? If that was the case this game would be really really easy. Of course mafia and town can. The key here is mafia and town. You're using a null tell to call me mafia. No. I think the way you are behaving in totality is scummy also, I just used that case as a focal point of some pressure because it felt so contrived, but conceded that the case made at least one reasonable point. "In totality" huh. Tell me more. Or I will just keep it to myself until I have enough to lynch you with or change my mind.
So you're bullshitting to "pressure" me?
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