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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 04:45 GMT
#402
On September 24 2014 13:44 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 13:41 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:40 yamato77 wrote:
DP tryharding is adorable.


What you think of hapa yamato?

Give reasons.

Hapa likes his early game tunnels.

Yes he does.


Sorry but this is garbage Yamato.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 04:48 GMT
#408
On September 24 2014 13:45 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:41 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:32 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Honestly DP, you don't even have to understand my case beyond what Damdred said:

On September 24 2014 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:
On September 24 2014 12:51 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 12:04 Grackaroni wrote:
I can get behind a Geript lynch

##Vote: Geript


Why?
What is so convincing about hapa's case on geript that makes you able to get behind a lynch on him?

Geript's posts just feel really awkward to me so I guess I like Hapa's narrative. Not realizing he has a qt doesn't really help his case.


Think about how awkard geript's posts sound in the context of the thread. There is a clear conversation topic that everyone is discussing (CR's claim), then he enters the thread and posts completely useless crap, then a summary post of pairings.

On September 24 2014 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:22 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:14 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

I think you are scum.


This is going nowhere.

Let me know when you're ready to do productive things. Like lynching geript.


I'm being productive. Why don't you try and convince me of geript being scum if you are so certain?



See: above

I generally don't care to argue with the one person in every one of my town games that always finds me scummy on day 1. It's a chore, and a waste of my time given that everyone else will read me as town.


I don't think you are scummy every time you are town at all. So that is bullshit.

Not engaging in a discourse is anti-town and if people read you as town from what you have contributed thus far well I would be appalled honestly.


Again, not worth my time.

What makes Geript more likely to be scum over a townie who didn't read his pm properly and was just talking shit at the start of the game?


Because this is more than just him not reading his PM properly. This is him entering the thread and posting for the sake of posting as opposed to reading the thread.

Odds are that a player who does something like this is mafia. Not a "townie who is talking shit."


I think mafia are more likely to read the thread properly and less likely to shitpost like that.


See the thing is that this is explanation is not likely. For example, take a look at this in geript's filter:

On September 24 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
CR-VE
Hapa-Abuse
Vayne--DP
Grack--Kush but Kush isn't on the sign up
Geript--MysteryMeat
Oats--Damdred

So here's where we're at.


Here's something that shows that he did sort of read the thread and is trying to contribute.

The key word here is "sort-of".

Mafia is about finding out who is deceiving you. If geript truly didn't read a damn thing and shitposted the whole filter, you might have an argument. That is a plausible town behavior. However this is not the behavior that geript is exhibiting.

He enters the thread, shitposts, then attemps to contribute with a post that clearly read every single partner claim, then "come-at-me-bro's", which is very inconsistent.


Hmmmm. I guess that is a good point actually.

It shows that Geript is not invested in being actually productive. I'm still not sure that makes him mafia though.




Ok cool atleast we're somewhat on the same page then.

We're less than 24 hours into day one, and I think that's as good a reason of any to vote someone. Hell if I had evidence that someone wasn't being invested in being productive, I'd probably vote them 48 hours in as well.


Not really. I still think you are scummy. I don't want to lynch you today cause I could be wrong. But if you don't start shitting town rainbows on day 2 I will try and lynch you.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 04:49 GMT
#410
On September 24 2014 13:46 yamato77 wrote:
It's good to know that you still don't know the patterns to Hapa's play.


I'm not saying the statement is untrue. I know first hand it is. I'm saying your input is garbage as in worthless. You didn't answer the question.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 04:50 GMT
#411
On September 24 2014 13:49 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 13:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:45 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:43 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:41 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:36 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:35 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:32 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:27 Hapahauli wrote:
Honestly DP, you don't even have to understand my case beyond what Damdred said:

On September 24 2014 13:04 Grackaroni wrote:
[quote]
Geript's posts just feel really awkward to me so I guess I like Hapa's narrative. Not realizing he has a qt doesn't really help his case.


Think about how awkard geript's posts sound in the context of the thread. There is a clear conversation topic that everyone is discussing (CR's claim), then he enters the thread and posts completely useless crap, then a summary post of pairings.

On September 24 2014 13:23 DarthPunk wrote:
[quote]

I'm being productive. Why don't you try and convince me of geript being scum if you are so certain?



See: above

I generally don't care to argue with the one person in every one of my town games that always finds me scummy on day 1. It's a chore, and a waste of my time given that everyone else will read me as town.


I don't think you are scummy every time you are town at all. So that is bullshit.

Not engaging in a discourse is anti-town and if people read you as town from what you have contributed thus far well I would be appalled honestly.


Again, not worth my time.

What makes Geript more likely to be scum over a townie who didn't read his pm properly and was just talking shit at the start of the game?


Because this is more than just him not reading his PM properly. This is him entering the thread and posting for the sake of posting as opposed to reading the thread.

Odds are that a player who does something like this is mafia. Not a "townie who is talking shit."


I think mafia are more likely to read the thread properly and less likely to shitpost like that.


See the thing is that this is explanation is not likely. For example, take a look at this in geript's filter:

On September 24 2014 10:33 geript wrote:
CR-VE
Hapa-Abuse
Vayne--DP
Grack--Kush but Kush isn't on the sign up
Geript--MysteryMeat
Oats--Damdred

So here's where we're at.


Here's something that shows that he did sort of read the thread and is trying to contribute.

The key word here is "sort-of".

Mafia is about finding out who is deceiving you. If geript truly didn't read a damn thing and shitposted the whole filter, you might have an argument. That is a plausible town behavior. However this is not the behavior that geript is exhibiting.

He enters the thread, shitposts, then attemps to contribute with a post that clearly read every single partner claim, then "come-at-me-bro's", which is very inconsistent.


Hmmmm. I guess that is a good point actually.

It shows that Geript is not invested in being actually productive. I'm still not sure that makes him mafia though.




Ok cool atleast we're somewhat on the same page then.

We're less than 24 hours into day one, and I think that's as good a reason of any to vote someone. Hell if I had evidence that someone wasn't being invested in being productive, I'd probably vote them 48 hours in as well.


Not really. I still think you are scummy. I don't want to lynch you today cause I could be wrong. But if you don't start shitting town rainbows on day 2 I will try and lynch you.

that's a rather boring way to go about reading someone


Nah, I Never really try and lynch potentially valuable townies day one.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 04:52 GMT
#413
On September 24 2014 13:51 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm confused.

So you conceded I made a good point in my case against geript, and one of the main reasons you think I'm mafia is because my case was fabricated.

This doesn't really hold.


Do mafia never make good points in their cases on townies? If that was the case this game would be really really easy.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 04:58 GMT
#417
On September 24 2014 13:53 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 13:52 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:51 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm confused.

So you conceded I made a good point in my case against geript, and one of the main reasons you think I'm mafia is because my case was fabricated.

This doesn't really hold.


Do mafia never make good points in their cases on townies? If that was the case this game would be really really easy.


Of course mafia and town can.

The key here is mafia and town.

You're using a null tell to call me mafia.


No. I think the way you are behaving in totality is scummy also, I just used that case as a focal point of some pressure because it felt so contrived, but conceded that the case made at least one reasonable point.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:03 GMT
#422
On September 24 2014 13:54 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 13:49 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:46 yamato77 wrote:
It's good to know that you still don't know the patterns to Hapa's play.


I'm not saying the statement is untrue. I know first hand it is. I'm saying your input is garbage as in worthless. You didn't answer the question.

Why would I suspect Hapa for doing something I downright know he's going to do?

...

Why would YOU suspect him on this basis if you supposedly know it's true?

Your scumread of him is garbage. Laughable, really. And then you don't even have the balls to back it up, you just limp away saying "I'll lynch you TOMORROW if I still think you're scum!"

"Don't kill valuable townies D1" LOLOL then why did you even make the case.



Because I want to figure out if I am correct in my suspicions. I do that by pressuring him. Then, when I create something to talk about with that pressure I ask people what they think of it to figure out THEIR alignments.

So that is why when I ask you a QUESTION RELATED TO THE DISCUSSION IN THE THREAD could you please answer it?

Further Hapa tunnels in the early game but usually they are more inquisitive and less, well, bad. But hey, I haven't played with him for like a year so I could be wrong. Which is why I, and this is hilarious, Pressure him and ask others questions.

Shocking I know.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:04 GMT
#424
On September 24 2014 13:59 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 13:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:53 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:52 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:51 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm confused.

So you conceded I made a good point in my case against geript, and one of the main reasons you think I'm mafia is because my case was fabricated.

This doesn't really hold.


Do mafia never make good points in their cases on townies? If that was the case this game would be really really easy.


Of course mafia and town can.

The key here is mafia and town.

You're using a null tell to call me mafia.


No. I think the way you are behaving in totality is scummy also, I just used that case as a focal point of some pressure because it felt so contrived, but conceded that the case made at least one reasonable point.


"In totality" huh.

Tell me more.


Or I will just keep it to myself until I have enough to lynch you with or change my mind.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:05 GMT
#426
On September 24 2014 13:57 yamato77 wrote:
I don't like being a dick but you asked for it. There's literally no reason I should have a definitive answer on Hapa's alignment this early.


I also didn't require a definitive answer. I just wanted SOME input on what was happening in the thread.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:06 GMT
#427
On September 24 2014 14:05 Hapahauli wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 24 2014 14:04 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:59 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:58 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:53 Hapahauli wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:52 DarthPunk wrote:
On September 24 2014 13:51 Hapahauli wrote:
I'm confused.

So you conceded I made a good point in my case against geript, and one of the main reasons you think I'm mafia is because my case was fabricated.

This doesn't really hold.


Do mafia never make good points in their cases on townies? If that was the case this game would be really really easy.


Of course mafia and town can.

The key here is mafia and town.

You're using a null tell to call me mafia.


No. I think the way you are behaving in totality is scummy also, I just used that case as a focal point of some pressure because it felt so contrived, but conceded that the case made at least one reasonable point.


"In totality" huh.

Tell me more.


Or I will just keep it to myself until I have enough to lynch you with or change my mind.


So you're bullshitting to "pressure" me?


No I think you are scummy so I am pressuring you. Either I will be confirmed in my suspicions or you will change my mind. Pretty basic actually.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:15 GMT
#433
On September 24 2014 14:07 yamato77 wrote:
What do you think I think about Hapa, DP?


I think he is scummy. I didn't like his case on geript. I think he was not as inquisitive as I would expect town hapa to be.

I didn't like that he tried to ignore my pressure initially, and I think that his one liner insults after I continued to pressure him were an attempt to handle things without engaging in the town discourse which is scummy.

Every game I have played in with hapa he has been obviously pro town throughout the game as town and his scum games have been lackluster imitations of his town play. I feel that this game is more likely the latter but would like to give him an opportunity to do stuff until day 2. Partly because it is my policy when dealing with 'strong' townies, and partially because a lot of my read on him is feel / old meta, which is not enough to lynch someone.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:19 GMT
#436
On September 24 2014 14:17 yamato77 wrote:
I asked you what you thought MY read of Hapa was

I know what you think

show some insight


Oh I think you love him and are annoyed that someone dares to call him scum or something.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:23 GMT
#439
Why is yamato town hapa?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:23 GMT
#440
my biggest town read is Kush by the way.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:28 GMT
#444
On September 24 2014 14:25 Hapahauli wrote:
He is much more apathetic and willing to conform to what people want to hear as mafia.

Also, reading Kush as town for being himself is nonsense.

I'm pretty sure he is butthurt about stuff I do regardless of his alignment.

I'm pretty sure he town slipped when he asked why vt's were masons.

I don't think he would be cognizant enough to do that as "not vt"
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:28 GMT
#445
EBWOP second to lines about kush.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:28 GMT
#446
TWO
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:30 GMT
#448
On September 24 2014 14:29 Hapahauli wrote:
I would read literally any other player as town for what kush did.

But it's kush.


Meh I think it's a solid town slip regardless.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:35 GMT
#451
On September 24 2014 14:32 Grackaroni wrote:
Kush was legit confused. He asked me if we were mafia in qt.


HAHA
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
September 24 2014 05:36 GMT
#453
On September 24 2014 14:33 yamato77 wrote:
DP smells.


Nice to see your pm calling me a Mafia/ League god and wanting to bury the hatchet meant something to you.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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