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On September 25 2014 01:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 01:29 Promethelax wrote:On September 25 2014 01:27 VisceraEyes wrote:On September 25 2014 01:24 Promethelax wrote:On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 25 2014 01:20 Promethelax wrote:On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter. And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch? Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless. If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm. If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain. VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player. Unless he's mafia, then it's "claiming VT to get a townread and then fuck off for the whole game" What I'm asking you is why you think that comes specifically from townKush and not mafiaKush. I don't think Kush is a bad player - he's often perceptive and speaks his mind. He's been neither of those things this game, so I'm interested in why you're hard townreading him for his first post. gutread. #notasstrongasyouledmetobelieve
I said I found him townie and that I was uninterested in lynching him today. Exactly as strong as I lead you to believe.
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On September 25 2014 01:32 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 01:28 Promethelax wrote:On September 25 2014 01:26 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 25 2014 01:24 Promethelax wrote:On September 25 2014 01:21 VayneAuthority wrote:On September 25 2014 01:20 Promethelax wrote:On September 25 2014 01:16 VayneAuthority wrote:
prom I received mod confirmation on how his role works -_- what is there to not understand? its in the thread read host's filter. And you kept pushing him after that. Or at least that was what I saw when I was reading the thread. Am I wrong? Do you no longer believe him to be the best lynch? Damdred: you made posts and they were meaningless. Everyone posted before me but I did not find what you posted useful or interesting. Feel free to contribute now and be memorable the mod post gave even greater incentive to lynch him considering what CR posted before he left for what seems like the entire cycle. If he chooses to save mafia, which he will, our KP is meaningless. If we are lynching into anyone else, well that is what we are figuring out in the QT atm. If CR saves ANYONE his win con changes to Wins-With-Town why would he save scum? Explain. VE: kush seems like town because of his first post. It struck me as coming from a town player and even more so a town kush. The thoughtlessness of claiming VT while at the same time misunderstanding how this set-up works is the carelessness of a town player. On September 24 2014 07:35 Chairman Ray wrote:
Yeah, what the heck.
I'm Chitaru Namatame the defender. Not gonna bother saving town. SO DON'T KILL ME MAFIA Yes he is clearly trying to win with his survivor role and is asking scum to not kill him so that he can win in endgame. What is your point? Do you still not understand his role? He is saying he won't save ANYONE. That's the best case scenario. I dont work with best case scenarios he can also save mafianot even be defender 3rd party (33% chance he roles this as 3rd party, 66% chance he roled something much more dangerous) could be mafia fake claiming so yea id rather not risk it.
okay so I struck out the one that is against his own win-con.
You haven't brought up the second point at all throughout this game. I brought that up. You not bringing that up is part of what makes you scummy.
Third point is dumb as dick. There is confirmed 1 3p in this game. No more, no less. Fake claiming that as mafia is a HUGE risk. Possible but awful; if we ever flip another 3p we can kill CR. If we kill two mafia and have no other options we can lynch CR.
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On September 25 2014 01:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Prom what's your thoughts for Damdred since you made your list.
Would take Dam as town. He was unhappy I hadn't noticed him which is good. Scum generally don't want people to pay attention to them and his post complaining that I hadn't noticed him is quite townie.
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On September 25 2014 01:39 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 25 2014 01:39 Promethelax wrote:On September 25 2014 01:36 Grackaroni wrote:
Prom what's your thoughts for Damdred since you made your list. Would take Dam as town. He was unhappy I hadn't noticed him which is good. Scum generally don't want people to pay attention to them and his post complaining that I hadn't noticed him is quite townie. I think it's pretty ballsy of him to go after DP
So you think DP is town?
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On September 25 2014 04:08 abuse wrote:
1. is a fair point but I am not good with collecting my thoughts well on such huge information loads, so I just go with how I can manage. and I do not agree with 2. I am pretty clear with who I find suspicious and who I find legit.
me and hapa or oats and damdred?
Would you say that the chances are high that 3 mafia are among these 4?
I know I'm not scum and hapa does not seem like scum either. Both Oats and Damdred have not said anything so far that would strike as anti town or scummy.
Why are you sure that there is no scum between DP and Vayne? Does vayne's play so far seem legit and not worth looking into? I'm having a hard time understanding this..
Can people who have played with abuse before tell me if he is usually this wishy washy? This entire post is just an attempt to push the lynch away from himself and onto anywhere else it could stick without actually scum hunting or attempting to find the correct target.
DP and Vayne have been been garnering attention up to this point but abuse doesn't say that he thinks either one is scum. Instead he wants geript to call them scum and stop calling him/hapa scum.
If I had to pick a single post to lynch someone over I would call this the most lynch worthy post thus far in the game.
On September 25 2014 11:23 geript wrote:
@Hapa/Yam/VE/Prom
What do you guys make of Oats/Damdred having no opinion of each other. It seems like most everyone active has a specific read on their partner. But like Damdred has mostly been bitching about me thinking his pairing is a good flip despite explaining it multiple times while saying/thinking nothing about his partner and Oats is mia on any actual intelligent issue.
I don't like damdred's play. It is pretty terrible and mostly whiny but he did a thing earlier which makes me think he is terrible and town and not mafia. He was whining about not being noticed which simpply isn't a thing a lurky scum player whines about. He was unhappy I wasn't paying attention to him despite him having done essentially nothing.
He is a decently town read.
I'd be curious to see what Oats has to say about damdred though. I've been gut reading oats as town but looking at the thread I can't figure out why which is bothersome. I'd like more from him.
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@oats: I'm sorry you never learned to play mafia. I tired to teach you, I really did.
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I find myself suspicious of my partner. Yamato hasn't done anything really in qt. I've been using it more than I thought I would since I wanted to make sure we read each other as town since, if we are both town, we are the strongest town-town pairing.
In qt and in thread Yam has posted little one liners and argued with DP. That is it.
He said he would talk to me about his reads since he thinks I am town but he simply hasn't. The last thing he said was that VA is someone he ignores.
I'm not terribly interested in lynching Yamato today but it is something I would like to hear opinions on. I see people giving him a town read but I don't see why.
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On September 26 2014 03:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Prom you want to weigh in at all on VE? I think he's probably the most realistic lynch at this point.
I'm still having mixed feelings on him and he wouldn't be my lynch priority but for the sake of consolidation and sheeping my town reads I'll probably end up with a vote there.
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Grack who is your top lynch candidate and why? Two sentences or less.
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same question to MM1 and Damdred.
Who is your best scum read and why? gogogo.
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On September 26 2014 03:23 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 03:13 Promethelax wrote:
I find myself suspicious of my partner. Yamato hasn't done anything really in qt. I've been using it more than I thought I would since I wanted to make sure we read each other as town since, if we are both town, we are the strongest town-town pairing.
In qt and in thread Yam has posted little one liners and argued with DP. That is it.
He said he would talk to me about his reads since he thinks I am town but he simply hasn't. The last thing he said was that VA is someone he ignores.
I'm not terribly interested in lynching Yamato today but it is something I would like to hear opinions on. I see people giving him a town read but I don't see why. I think I want to lynch my QT mate Chairman Ray. Like - I was giving him a pass because claim, but I've been like trying to exchange thoughts and ideas in our QT and there's just no reciprocation whatsoever. He's not playing the game in the QT, and he's not playing the game in the thread. He's not trying to with the game with town, frankly he's not trying to win the game as any alignment. I don't think he's playing like a third-party who turns into a town. So I want to lynch him because that's the role he's claimed. Any questions? ##Vote: Chairman Ray
I have a question. Why haven't you been reading the thread or thinking about this game? There is only one way to deal with CR's claim DP and Oats discussed that and CR agreed. We let CR use his defender power (if he has it, which I doubt) n1 which will turn him into town and save a townie from death. If he does not do this we lynch him d2. That has been settled.
Do you seriously have no scum reads?
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On September 26 2014 03:28 MysteryMeat1 wrote:
##Unvote:
##Vote:Abuse
willing to switch my vote, but i think abuse is a pretty solid lynch today. I mentioned this in QT, but i didn't like abuse's early townread on Damdred/oats, i felt that it was more of an attempt to gain town cred in the even of a green flip.
Is that your only reason for lynching abuse? Is that the scummiest thing in the thread?
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On September 26 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
Yes, yamato is town and mafia-siding this game. It's a sad day.
wat?
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On September 26 2014 03:35 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On August 27 2014 19:07 abuse wrote:
meatpudding
His reply to my initial first 4 questions satisfies me deeply (no perv intended)
He is giving an experienced player vibe, even though this is a newbie game.
He seems to be the only person to actually read my posts how I intended them to be read, and does good analysis of the situation.
Same as Barakos, even if he turns out to be scum in the end(which I also do not believe to be the case), I think having him along the way will still help town a lot.
His posts are logical and have meaning behind them. He does not try to ignore questions and try to negatively push any flaws he sees in others' posts. He asks about them instead of attacking.
Also - I do not see him to be the cop, I do see him as town though. This is the only type of thing I really have to fault when comparing the two. He earlyish into D1 (started on p6 and he posted a series of these at p11) that he goes through a bit methodically about reading people. He hasn't really done this at all. He seems really detached in general in comparison. There's a minor townie point for him and his gum comment on me as that type of attitude pervades his newbie filter, but the rest of what he posted seems pretty different actually.
I happen to agree. His tone is totally different from that newbie game. I don't think I can call that alignment indicative though. Going from a newbie into a real game is hard. Even more so with this many strong players/personalities. I'm not sure how a newbie would do with it and if we can take seriously the change in his behaviour.
It isn't a point in his favour however.
I'd like to hear from hapa why he thinks Abuse seems townie since he should have the best insight.
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On September 26 2014 03:58 Damdred wrote:
Maybe i'm over complicating things. But aren't you town reading or at least town leaning oats now for the same reason you scum read him earlier?
MM1 please answer this. Also please tell us your reasoning that you say you have posted before about hapa. I don't care if you've already said it, I want to hear it again.
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So why do you think abuse is the scummiest person in the thread?
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##Vote: VE
Not only am I trusting Hapa on this (which I am) VE totally abandoned the thread with a shit vote. I questioned him on it and he did nothing at all to justify it. I doubt he had even read the thread.
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On September 26 2014 04:42 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 03:13 Promethelax wrote:
I find myself suspicious of my partner. Yamato hasn't done anything really in qt. I've been using it more than I thought I would since I wanted to make sure we read each other as town since, if we are both town, we are the strongest town-town pairing.
In qt and in thread Yam has posted little one liners and argued with DP. That is it.
He said he would talk to me about his reads since he thinks I am town but he simply hasn't. The last thing he said was that VA is someone he ignores.
I'm not terribly interested in lynching Yamato today but it is something I would like to hear opinions on. I see people giving him a town read but I don't see why. You left the QT when I was playing for hours after. Not my fault we didn't interact. I'm not just going to dump posts in there for no reason. Prom plz
Come to qt. I have some things to ask you.
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On September 26 2014 04:43 geript wrote:
@Prome we have a little over 2 hours to get a lynch. Who do you want?
CR is the safe no one will really fight it lynch.
Abuse is an ok lurker lynch, Vayne is too maybe.
Kush I could lynch but I doubt the support's there. Damdred is maybe an ok lynch but I think it's too likely that I'm reading him wrong.
VE has sorta faded out. Kinda reminds me of when he was mafia in gmarsh's game. The tone thing and reversing Hapa's argument on himself feels a bit bad and there's Hapa's arguments too.
Hapa I think was too active to lynch today; I think in the long run lynching abuse makes more sense there. Plus he's been all over the place for me. I still don't see how he ever thought I was mafia and him returning to that read made me feel even more odd about him.
DP I think is town but I don't think he's been terribly useful. Kinda in the same boat as Yam.
I think Grack's town.
I want to lynch VE.
Next day I'd like to look at both abuse and VA both still look scummy to me but I don't have the support to force their lynches today and, honestly, I'm more interested in seeing a VE flip. More people said things about him and he is therefore a more useful flip for town.
Who do you want to lynch geript?
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Time to CONSOLIDATE BITCHES
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