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On September 27 2014 18:00 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 17:56 DarthPunk wrote:On September 27 2014 17:53 Promethelax wrote:On September 27 2014 17:50 geript wrote: To be fair DP, I saw that CR said both his partners were mad that he claimed 3p. I don't think it terribly changes things in any regard.
@Prome could you check my read on Abuse. Do you agree with it and the reasoning behind it? The general premise of the read is one I've used and support. It entails a weak scum player though and since I have no idea of abuse's scum capabilities I'd call him a town lean but not as confirmed as you seem to think he is. I think oats has a decent chance of being the last scum actually. DP: are you sure there can be only one of each role? This set-up seems poorly thought out and poorly defined. I can't find anywhere that it says only one is possible. No. but anyone who has played mafia sort of has inherent ideas of what is balanced. And two werewolves would mean that town would HAVE to mislynch one of them or auto win. SO I think that possibility (two werewolves being possible) would not have occurred to someone fakeclaiming at the start of the game. Werewolf is susceptible to 3p kills, it isn't as outlandish as you are saying it is. Though it is really fucking retarded and Vanye usually understands what is and isn't retarded in terms of roles.
That is the key point.
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On September 27 2014 17:58 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 17:53 DarthPunk wrote: WOW I wish Kush's filter link was in the OP.
Kinda useful. But that would require kush to not be an ass and sign up for games on alt accounts. Something he has been doing since before I left. Oats just hasn't done anything at all townie, his activity is shit which it usually isn't as town. He tried to call me out for town reading him early and kept trying to get me lynched which he isn't likely to do as town unless he just want Senpai to notice him. Oats is probably the first mafia player on this site to ever look up to me and last hasn't stopped since I coached his newbies forever ago. He likes to be buddies when we are town but tries to avoid me when he is scum. Plus he would want to shoot me as scum.
Yeah I don't agree that oats is townie at all like some people have said. Although he looked better at the end of day one.
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On September 27 2014 18:05 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 18:03 geript wrote: So where do I fall in order in the line of "newbies that looked up to you?" You weren't new when you decided that I was awesome. It was PYP:LoL and you'd been playing for a while. DP: who are your top scum reads?
No clue. There is a whole swathe of people that fall somewhere between Plausible - More plausible.
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On September 27 2014 18:05 geript wrote: I have a question DP. Did Vayne claim before or after CR did? Let me check.
He claimed at: 09-23-2014 11:55 PM ET (US)
I can;t compare them because they are in two different time formats for me. ET and AEDT
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Actually I think Damdred is scum.
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Does everyone remember how Damdred spent most of day one waiting for me to appear so he could talk with me?
This post here is the LAST time he actually develops the read on me. And how does he do it? By rehashing something he posted in his qt.
Seems like he is really invested in his scum read or trying to convince others to lynch him.
On September 25 2014 08:41 Damdred wrote: Just got to a comp i'll go on and paste my notes that i put up this morning to oats (about dp)
Yea, at the start he just skims the thread and votes with what could be seen as something that could become popular in the thread since CR basically said he would help mafia. DP when confronted instantly voted off.
When it comes to hapa he gave himself an out of his scum read on him by saying it was basically outdated meta, its a decent scum tell to give yourself such an easy out at that point if hes played with him so much. And he misrepresents the meta and comes to geript with a chainsaw in hand basically. Even though hes so sure that hapa is scum, he refuses to vote on him or push his lynch today even though most of his filter IS HAPA IS SCUM. Its noncommital with the appearance of looking good.
He said he would be willing to lynch a third party if another better lynch could not be obtained. If you look at the OP there is only 1 3p in this game. Which at this point if nobody has CC'd or claimed third party we can be safe to assume that CR is the only one. So he should be off the table, and lynching into the unknown with a chance to hit mafia is better than lynching a known. (wasteing a lynch is never good in my book)
He isn't pushing anything but hapa is scum, and he'll let that ride till tomorrow so that he can try to get him lynched tomorrow (if hes not shitting towny rainbows). Hes throwing doubt on a few people and giving a little pressure on geript at this point which looks and feels more like show than anything.
Added a few things in the ().
What is the next thing he posts about his major read from day one? The person he spoke at length about wanting to question:
On September 26 2014 00:50 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 00:15 Oatsmaster wrote: What do you mean "Like what"?
Im saying you might be buddying me because I didnt feel like I explained my scumread on DP well enough.
Anyway as I said, not interested in lynching you today.
Who Im interested in lynching. PROMETHELAX. His first content post is so bad. He waffles around geript, posts about some not very relevent posts, then gives a bunch of reads with no reasoning and never attempts to make any effort, other than bitching to VE to give him reads, to get info to expand his scumreads. all his scumreads are "they havent done anything". super weak. Then he goes onto Vayne, none of the points he brings up is good. His main point is that town Vayne would read the OP. Totally not a point at all. Why would scumVayne purposely push a case based on bad info? Literally it makes no sense to not check how the role works as scum because you dont want to get caught like that. Bad bad bad. Continuing, he doesnt post about the biggest issue in the thread, the Hapa/VE stuff. Its huge. He doesnt care. Showing that his mindset is off and isnt aware of the normal thread atmosphere cause hes scum.
OK. ##vote Promethelax
Hes gonna come back and post a wall of text but dont get suckered. Stay the course and LYNCH HIM. Majority lynch. no lynch is the absolute worst thing that can happen.
I felt like I did explain why I was scum reading DP at the time decently well. I suppose i'm being prudent in how I look at our partnership currently and you should act the same way towards me until our alignments are known to each other. So I can understand the stance.
At the time? So he doesn't scum read me anymore? Who the fuck knows. He has dropped his read on me with zero reasoning the read he used as an excuse to be unproductive prior to that.
On September 26 2014 00:50 Damdred wrote: The case is not bad, Prom posts a few big posts that seem good at face value but their are several issues within each.
Several issues within each. What issues? What is he talking about? No one knows because he doesn;t explain or extrapolate.
Non committal and saying nothing.
On September 26 2014 03:47 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On September 26 2014 03:23 Promethelax wrote: same question to MM1 and Damdred.
Who is your best scum read and why? gogogo. Sorry I missed this while looking. I'm really hesitant to say MM, but I think hes a decent lynch today for a few reasons (on my phone so can't quote but I can add those laters and if mm wants to address this hes welcome to) In his earlier filter, he talks about not liking hapa (who at the time I believe, thread sentiment was against) but had no real opinion on DP because he had never played with him before. On further inspection, MM still hasn't given a read on DP but did give one on hapa and after talking with hapa I learned that MM never played with him either. So why the double standard and still not having an opinion on someone who is prominent in the thread? (once thread sentiment turned in hapas favor MM felt a lot better about hapa and worse about VE which is a non-point i think) His postins about who he thinks is the best lynch is always in flux and is a bit strange. He said at one point that Oats was the better lynch out of myself and Oats. Once his partner started in on me he switched to me, then back to oats. While always staying voted on me. It just does not make sense and not a lot of time passes between "I do not know if i want to lynch oats or VE first today" to "Damdred is the best lynch today". Later on he says lynch oats, and he would rather have me alive and he liked that I hadn't town read my partner on basically nothing, but this was the same t hing that got him to switch to me in the first place last night. Later on the same reason he wants to move to oats and lynch oats, is the reason he gives him a pass for today? And then he jumps on abuse. MM just seems like he wants to kill anyone he can, or look like hes contributing to the thread. Its just hes pretty easy to lynch in every game I play with him and i'm hesitant in it now.
Cool now his top scum read is the biggest nobody lurker in the game. What happened to DP being scum? Who the fuck knows. But I find it very disingenuous that such a huge part of his day one scum hunting can just disappear into nothingness.
On September 26 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote: ##Vote VE
I have to start going back to work now, but i'll be around the last hour hit and miss if we want to do a sudden change, I really do not want a no lynch some information is better than none.
Out of nowhere He joins the VE wagon. ZERO explanation. Just hops on. LIke why? He didn;t even TRY to lynch his 'biggest scum read' MM or his previous obsession DP.
Looks Like a bus. Smells like a bus.
I come in and try some last minute shenanigans.
On September 26 2014 06:46 Damdred wrote: I would switch to mm or useless dp
OH LOOK HE SHEEPS HIS SCUM READ THAT HE DROPPED BUT NOW HAS AGAIN TO STOP THE VOTE ON VE WHO HE HAS SAID NOTHING ABOUT.
Like look at the EXACT progression from Damdred and his VE read and bathe in the scumminess.
On September 26 2014 04:57 Damdred wrote: @Hapa
VEs lack of being present at this point in the day is worrying, or at least sticking around. After the VE flip where would you go if we lynched him? And what do you think of MM?
On September 26 2014 05:15 Damdred wrote: ##Vote VE
I have to start going back to work now, but i'll be around the last hour hit and miss if we want to do a sudden change, I really do not want a no lynch some information is better than none.
On September 26 2014 06:39 Damdred wrote: VE besides Cr who is mafia to you?
On September 26 2014 06:46 Damdred wrote: I would switch to mm or useless dp
Oh shit VE was lynched, better salvage my town cred mang
On September 26 2014 07:22 Damdred wrote: I'm glad I stuck on him and I hope Cr is the defender.
This is a great day for town.
But wait. Why is he questioning the Cr defender claim. At the time everyone in the thread should have been pretty sure that he WAS the defender. Because the alternative was so fucking INCOMPREHENSIBLE.
Off.
On September 27 2014 08:16 Damdred wrote: ##vote CR
at work atm, glad you did the smart thing geript.
Oh look lost my other buddy. Give me town creds.
And today, all Damdred has done is push Vayne and IGNORED THE TWO PEOPLE HE WANTED TO LYNCH INSTEAD OF VE.
Damdred is scum
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On September 27 2014 18:38 Promethelax wrote: Damdred is super townie. I just read his filter. You should too.
Either 3p is poisoner or arsonist. Both are weaker than mafia. Poisoner cannot immodestly remove threats to himself and arsonist can only light once so he has to reach endgame with the right players soaked. Both are less powerful than mafia. Also I like killing mafia. On top of that last mafia may have a role, both strongman and vig are extremely potent.
He is not town. He is mafia.
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So everyone just ignoring my case hey?
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On September 27 2014 20:29 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 20:27 DarthPunk wrote: So everyone just ignoring my case hey? Sorry mustve ignored you. Damn that must be a sucky feeling.
lol
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On September 28 2014 06:44 Promethelax wrote: Also what the fuck is this hosting? I know that there was not a unanimous vote to change deadlines, I did not vote for it. The hosts for this game should be ashamed of themselves.
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On September 28 2014 08:10 yamato77 wrote: dp, what do you think about grack?
What is there to say? He lurking and useless. He actually did stuff in the ONE game I played with him in which he was mafia.
Titanic II
Why do you think he is scum yamato. A one liner from you is about as convincing as a toothless prostitute.
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On September 28 2014 08:35 GlowingBear wrote: Please keep hosting issues to address to in the post game or via PM. I kindly ask you to keep the thread discussion inside the game context. Thank you 
LOL. You got balls kid.
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Damdred's response to my case was shit. Let's talk about his really weird voting history shall we?
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Like damdred tried to switch off of VE in a really really scummy way.
He kind of gives momentum toward it whilst not actually moving his vote. And when it doesn't happen he is QUICK to lap up any town cred he can get.
Townies are far more DIRECT and far less careful because they don;t know that VE is going to flip mafia.
And then questioning chairman ray's alignment contrary to thread sentiment at the time (as the thread had pretty clearly established he was third party) Is ALSO really fucking weird.
I think he is very likely to be scum. He has looked scummy all game and his VE vote progression and his CR vote seal the deal.
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It's really annoying that people keep calling me mafia. Just sayin'
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On September 28 2014 08:48 Grackaroni wrote: meh I don't think CR was trying to be misleading. You were one of the people not supportive of the VE lynch and you are one of the people I could see getting mad at CR and making him send the kp to prom instead of Geript.
Well if you don't think CR was trying to be misleading you should think I am confirmed town.
Why? you ask. Because he was talking to ME about what his two partners did.
##rekt
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On September 28 2014 08:53 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah I really don't care about that. More of I think CR wanted to get the fact that he wanted to kill Geript off his chest.
Well that is bullshit grack. Either you think he was misleading and then nothing he said means jack shit (the correct play)
Or you think he was not misleading and then he fucking slipped that I was town.
You can't pick and choose what he was misleading about and what he was genuine about to suit your own agenda motherfucker.
So which is it?
Was he genuine or not. Was he misleading or not.
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On September 28 2014 08:59 Grackaroni wrote: you already said you thought CR slipped information so how is that the correct play now?
I think CR was truthful about the Geript statement and I didn't notice that the person that he told his teammates were angry at him was you.
You never EVER trust a dead mafioso 100%. You should know that Grack. In Titanic II you said a lot of things that were genuine. But you also twisted and lied about shit.
I do think he slipped some shit out. But you can't take that to the bank.
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On September 28 2014 09:07 Grackaroni wrote:lol ok I think that's fair. I agree I shouldn't take that to the bank. So, now I am going to go ahead and pick and choose and say that I believe this quote from CR was genuine Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 08:12 Chairman Ray wrote: We were like so close to killing you too geript. I really wanted to kill you, but my scum partner was too stubborn about killing prom. If it were up to me, we would be in a decent spot.
Anyways, gg, was fun having a fakeclaim game
And say that this quote may OR may not be genuine Show nested quote +On September 27 2014 08:47 Chairman Ray wrote:On September 27 2014 08:43 DarthPunk wrote: LOLOLOLOLOLOL.'
##vote Chairman Ray.
P.S: Why the fuck would you claim third party? This is my 8th game in a row rolling scum. I haven't played town in almost 2 years, and I hate playing scum. I gotta do something to keep things interesting. My mafia teammates were not very happy with it either.
Are you scum grack?
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On September 28 2014 18:15 Promethelax wrote:Show nested quote +On September 28 2014 11:15 VayneAuthority wrote: after thinking about it
##vote kushm4sta Do you...do you even know what cycle it is bro?
The hosts DID just cut they day in half randomly. And it wasn't really announced in the thread that clearly either.
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