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DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 15 2014 08:48 GMT
#1101
On October 15 2014 17:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DarthPunk what game are YOU reading?
This is what abuse said about Rad from the time he was pushing loaf!!!!!
Show nested quote +
His first posts, questioning why superbia and fecal both called loaf town were good, and follows with good questions towards loaf.

This is the only important thing regarding this connection read you are making. What happened a day after doesn't matter shit.
That is what i think abuse had as a read on Rad at the time he pushed loaf and that's what i am talking about.

You have to take a look what actually happened during that time and not what someone wrote 36hours after that.
Do you disagree the thoughts from abuse i quoted is a townread?


From the SAME fucking post rayn:

So, current read on Rad: Somewhere between null and scum.


So no I don;t think he is town reading fucking rad. Which is why I said he was wishy washy. Honestly. What the fuck?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 08:53 GMT
#1102
Guys stop it already. abuse you clearly did something wrong considering you got lynched as town AND considering the other wagon in LYLO was ALSO town. DP is a good player. He is not always right (like noone is) so you should take some advice in what he is saying. Although he is presenting his stuff in an arrogant way that does not mean he is completely wrong. You really did misjudge loafery and Rad very heavily at the start of the game. Instead of arguing with DP how good/bad you were try to instead learn from the insight he gives. Even if he is wrong -- regarding your alignment -- you'll have to notice townies CAN think you are mafia for something you did. Why? what should you do differently next time in order to avoid it?

That's the point of post-game discussion in newbie games, not to flame the shit out of people who misread you in obs QT.
Same goes to DP, you are not really helping abuse...
table for two on a tv tray
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1944 Posts
October 15 2014 08:53 GMT
#1103
So, rayn says that whatever is said 36 hours later means shit. Which is also what I said, and what you DID here:
On October 15 2014 17:29 DarthPunk wrote:

it was wishy-washy

Show nested quote +
On October 11 2014 23:06 abuse wrote:
i didnt push rad as scum.
I said that post was scummy.

im going to need more than "i think rad is scum here, read his filter" to persuade me that he is scum in this game.


Show nested quote +
On October 08 2014 21:39 abuse wrote:

So, current read on Rad: Somewhere between null and scum.


Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 06:10 abuse wrote:
P.S. Yeah, rad disappearing for 10 mins now is interesting considering he was here right before deadline.. :/


and was actually the way that I would expect mafia to treat another mafia.

Yeah really don't know what the fuck you are talking about rayn.


And now you just forget all that and just focus on that one post, because obviously you were right .

Facepalm.
I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1944 Posts
October 15 2014 08:55 GMT
#1104
On October 15 2014 17:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys stop it already. abuse you clearly did something wrong considering you got lynched as town AND considering the other wagon in LYLO was ALSO town. DP is a good player. He is not always right (like noone is) so you should take some advice in what he is saying. Although he is presenting his stuff in an arrogant way that does not mean he is completely wrong. You really did misjudge loafery and Rad very heavily at the start of the game. Instead of arguing with DP how good/bad you were try to instead learn from the insight he gives. Even if he is wrong -- regarding your alignment -- you'll have to notice townies CAN think you are mafia for something you did. Why? what should you do differently next time in order to avoid it?

That's the point of post-game discussion in newbie games, not to flame the shit out of people who misread you in obs QT.
Same goes to DP, you are not really helping abuse...


Thanks for this.
I really do appreciate what you were saying, sadly DP is not somebody I could ever look up to or take seriously even.
I am shit-talking now because I really do not care anymore, and will not be playing any more games. This is just a parting gift to DP really, because I don't like him.
I don't believe you.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 15 2014 08:56 GMT
#1105
On October 15 2014 17:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys stop it already. abuse you clearly did something wrong considering you got lynched as town AND considering the other wagon in LYLO was ALSO town. DP is a good player. He is not always right (like noone is) so you should take some advice in what he is saying. Although he is presenting his stuff in an arrogant way that does not mean he is completely wrong. You really did misjudge loafery and Rad very heavily at the start of the game. Instead of arguing with DP how good/bad you were try to instead learn from the insight he gives. Even if he is wrong -- regarding your alignment -- you'll have to notice townies CAN think you are mafia for something you did. Why? what should you do differently next time in order to avoid it?

That's the point of post-game discussion in newbie games, not to flame the shit out of people who misread you in obs QT.
Same goes to DP, you are not really helping abuse...


Dude was shit talking me for no reason. There is no way in gods green earth I am going to let that go rayn.

Also, Explain how abuse was town reading Rad when he in fact said he was null to scummy?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Barakos
Profile Joined February 2012
Germany358 Posts
October 15 2014 08:57 GMT
#1106
On October 15 2014 17:38 abuse wrote:
Also, you disappoint me in thinking that saying you do not understand the rules to get towncred is "genius acting". It is a basic move.


I can name you 3 games in which a town did this...
1. Disney Princes Newbie Mini Mafia - Daydreamarine, who didn't know anything about mafia and rules/roles
2. Los Alamos Newbie Mini Mafia - loafery
3. Avogadros Number Mafia - Oatsmaster, who didn't read the setup properly and got into an arguement with me about it, before I had to drop out and flipped town D1

Reasoning behind this is, that as mafia, you care about setups and basic rules, since you need the knowledge to fakeclaim and use it to your advantage.
So seeing that this is a newbie-game, you can quite safely assume, that not knowing the rules is kind of a town-trait... arguing about them or even claiming a free-win based on false understanding of the rules is an almost guaranteed town, especially if you get over your "omg, that guy sucks so bad, let's kill him"-reflexes and try to read his posts with the mindset of a newbie posting them...
I wouldn't necessarily apply this logic to every veteran-game her on this site and I am pretty sure, I will at some point run into somebody, who fools me with some acting, but it sure holds up for me for now.

Also note, that this is something different, than what rad (i think) did, when he started argueing about the notifications blocked / jailed people would get, since this is much more in-depth and not explained properly in the role-descriptions.
Rad
Profile Joined May 2010
United States935 Posts
October 15 2014 08:57 GMT
#1107


This ego war is pretty lolz guys.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 15 2014 08:58 GMT
#1108
On October 15 2014 17:55 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Guys stop it already. abuse you clearly did something wrong considering you got lynched as town AND considering the other wagon in LYLO was ALSO town. DP is a good player. He is not always right (like noone is) so you should take some advice in what he is saying. Although he is presenting his stuff in an arrogant way that does not mean he is completely wrong. You really did misjudge loafery and Rad very heavily at the start of the game. Instead of arguing with DP how good/bad you were try to instead learn from the insight he gives. Even if he is wrong -- regarding your alignment -- you'll have to notice townies CAN think you are mafia for something you did. Why? what should you do differently next time in order to avoid it?

That's the point of post-game discussion in newbie games, not to flame the shit out of people who misread you in obs QT.
Same goes to DP, you are not really helping abuse...


Thanks for this.
I really do appreciate what you were saying, sadly DP is not somebody I could ever look up to or take seriously even.
I am shit-talking now because I really do not care anymore, and will not be playing any more games. This is just a parting gift to DP really, because I don't like him.


Because you know me so well and have played so often with me. Wait.. No you haven't. You are coming from a place of ignorance. But you are being hilarious so feel free to continue babe. I have more gif's to post :D
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-15 08:59:47
October 15 2014 08:58 GMT
#1109
On October 15 2014 17:48 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DarthPunk what game are YOU reading?
This is what abuse said about Rad from the time he was pushing loaf!!!!!
His first posts, questioning why superbia and fecal both called loaf town were good, and follows with good questions towards loaf.

This is the only important thing regarding this connection read you are making. What happened a day after doesn't matter shit.
That is what i think abuse had as a read on Rad at the time he pushed loaf and that's what i am talking about.

You have to take a look what actually happened during that time and not what someone wrote 36hours after that.
Do you disagree the thoughts from abuse i quoted is a townread?


From the SAME fucking post rayn:

Show nested quote +
So, current read on Rad: Somewhere between null and scum.


So no I don;t think he is town reading fucking rad. Which is why I said he was wishy washy. Honestly. What the fuck?

dude can you understand that post happened A DAY after the initial connection???
let me spell it out to you:
Oct 7th: Rad makes the scummy post (1)
Oct 7th: abuse calls loaf out
Oct 7th: abuse pushes loaf
Oct 8th: abuse calls Rad "null/scum". Still he calls the observations Rad made a day before good -> townie!!! (see the (1) -> timeline)

Like wtf? There is no way abuse did read Rad scum at the time he pushed loaf. Read the whole post and put the things onto a timeline. abuse did NOT scumread Rad at the time he pushed loafery!

am i correct abuse?
table for two on a tv tray
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 15 2014 08:59 GMT
#1110
On October 15 2014 17:53 abuse wrote:
So, rayn says that whatever is said 36 hours later means shit. Which is also what I said, and what you DID here:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:29 DarthPunk wrote:

it was wishy-washy

On October 11 2014 23:06 abuse wrote:
i didnt push rad as scum.
I said that post was scummy.

im going to need more than "i think rad is scum here, read his filter" to persuade me that he is scum in this game.


On October 08 2014 21:39 abuse wrote:

So, current read on Rad: Somewhere between null and scum.


On October 12 2014 06:10 abuse wrote:
P.S. Yeah, rad disappearing for 10 mins now is interesting considering he was here right before deadline.. :/


and was actually the way that I would expect mafia to treat another mafia.

Yeah really don't know what the fuck you are talking about rayn.


And now you just forget all that and just focus on that one post, because obviously you were right .

Facepalm.


It doesn't MATTER if I was right (hint: I was) I am explaining my thought process. Even if I WAS wrong. (i'm not) you should be able to understand WHY I was thinking what I was thinking. :D
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 15 2014 09:01 GMT
#1111
On October 15 2014 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 15 2014 17:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DarthPunk what game are YOU reading?
This is what abuse said about Rad from the time he was pushing loaf!!!!!
His first posts, questioning why superbia and fecal both called loaf town were good, and follows with good questions towards loaf.

This is the only important thing regarding this connection read you are making. What happened a day after doesn't matter shit.
That is what i think abuse had as a read on Rad at the time he pushed loaf and that's what i am talking about.

You have to take a look what actually happened during that time and not what someone wrote 36hours after that.
Do you disagree the thoughts from abuse i quoted is a townread?


From the SAME fucking post rayn:

So, current read on Rad: Somewhere between null and scum.


So no I don;t think he is town reading fucking rad. Which is why I said he was wishy washy. Honestly. What the fuck?

dude can you understand that post happened A DAY after the initial connection???
let me spell it out to you:
Oct 7th: Rad makes the scummy post (1)
Oct 7th: abuse calls loaf out
Oct 7th: abuse pushes loaf
Oct 8th: abuse calls Rad "null/scum". Still he calls the observations Rad made a day before good -> townie!!!

Like wtf? There is no way abuse did read Rad scum at the time he pushed loaf. Read the whole post and put the things onto a timeline. abuse did NOT scumread Rad at the time he pushed loafery!

am i correct abuse?


Nah i'm not looking at time stamps. But what you are saying is heavily inferred. Whatever. You should be able to understand my thought process which is the point. (even if I am wrong about the timing)
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1944 Posts
October 15 2014 09:01 GMT
#1112
On October 15 2014 17:57 Barakos wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:38 abuse wrote:
Also, you disappoint me in thinking that saying you do not understand the rules to get towncred is "genius acting". It is a basic move.


I can name you 3 games in which a town did this...
1. Disney Princes Newbie Mini Mafia - Daydreamarine, who didn't know anything about mafia and rules/roles
2. Los Alamos Newbie Mini Mafia - loafery
3. Avogadros Number Mafia - Oatsmaster, who didn't read the setup properly and got into an arguement with me about it, before I had to drop out and flipped town D1

Reasoning behind this is, that as mafia, you care about setups and basic rules, since you need the knowledge to fakeclaim and use it to your advantage.
So seeing that this is a newbie-game, you can quite safely assume, that not knowing the rules is kind of a town-trait... arguing about them or even claiming a free-win based on false understanding of the rules is an almost guaranteed town, especially if you get over your "omg, that guy sucks so bad, let's kill him"-reflexes and try to read his posts with the mindset of a newbie posting them...
I wouldn't necessarily apply this logic to every veteran-game her on this site and I am pretty sure, I will at some point run into somebody, who fools me with some acting, but it sure holds up for me for now.

Also note, that this is something different, than what rad (i think) did, when he started argueing about the notifications blocked / jailed people would get, since this is much more in-depth and not explained properly in the role-descriptions.


Wow, a post that actually does not make me cringe.

You are wrong though. the fact that this is a newbie game, is exactly why you can quite safely assume that not knowing the rules does not mean shit. That is what a newbie is. Your assumption is based, that everyone in the game has decent common sense, which is not something you can take for granted in a newbie game. The first hours of a newbie game, you have no idea how good/bad/logical the people are.
And I still find it funny, that you say "if you get over your "omg that guy sucks so bad, lets kill him" reflexes, considering you said this in avogadro's mini mafia.

On October 12 2014 08:58 DarthPunk wrote:
GlowingBear, What if I said that I would 100% lynch a shit posting townie day one even if I knew he was town.

I don't believe you.
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1944 Posts
October 15 2014 09:04 GMT
#1113
On October 15 2014 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 15 2014 17:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DarthPunk what game are YOU reading?
This is what abuse said about Rad from the time he was pushing loaf!!!!!
His first posts, questioning why superbia and fecal both called loaf town were good, and follows with good questions towards loaf.

This is the only important thing regarding this connection read you are making. What happened a day after doesn't matter shit.
That is what i think abuse had as a read on Rad at the time he pushed loaf and that's what i am talking about.

You have to take a look what actually happened during that time and not what someone wrote 36hours after that.
Do you disagree the thoughts from abuse i quoted is a townread?


From the SAME fucking post rayn:

So, current read on Rad: Somewhere between null and scum.


So no I don;t think he is town reading fucking rad. Which is why I said he was wishy washy. Honestly. What the fuck?

dude can you understand that post happened A DAY after the initial connection???
let me spell it out to you:
Oct 7th: Rad makes the scummy post (1)
Oct 7th: abuse calls loaf out
Oct 7th: abuse pushes loaf
Oct 8th: abuse calls Rad "null/scum". Still he calls the observations Rad made a day before good -> townie!!! (see the (1) -> timeline)

Like wtf? There is no way abuse did read Rad scum at the time he pushed loaf. Read the whole post and put the things onto a timeline. abuse did NOT scumread Rad at the time he pushed loafery!

am i correct abuse?


that is a safe assumption, yes, when I was pushing loaf, I was just pushing loaf. I was planning to look into other people's responses for the push to get their alignments.
I don't believe you.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 15 2014 09:05 GMT
#1114
On October 15 2014 18:01 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:57 Barakos wrote:
On October 15 2014 17:38 abuse wrote:
Also, you disappoint me in thinking that saying you do not understand the rules to get towncred is "genius acting". It is a basic move.


I can name you 3 games in which a town did this...
1. Disney Princes Newbie Mini Mafia - Daydreamarine, who didn't know anything about mafia and rules/roles
2. Los Alamos Newbie Mini Mafia - loafery
3. Avogadros Number Mafia - Oatsmaster, who didn't read the setup properly and got into an arguement with me about it, before I had to drop out and flipped town D1

Reasoning behind this is, that as mafia, you care about setups and basic rules, since you need the knowledge to fakeclaim and use it to your advantage.
So seeing that this is a newbie-game, you can quite safely assume, that not knowing the rules is kind of a town-trait... arguing about them or even claiming a free-win based on false understanding of the rules is an almost guaranteed town, especially if you get over your "omg, that guy sucks so bad, let's kill him"-reflexes and try to read his posts with the mindset of a newbie posting them...
I wouldn't necessarily apply this logic to every veteran-game her on this site and I am pretty sure, I will at some point run into somebody, who fools me with some acting, but it sure holds up for me for now.

Also note, that this is something different, than what rad (i think) did, when he started argueing about the notifications blocked / jailed people would get, since this is much more in-depth and not explained properly in the role-descriptions.


Wow, a post that actually does not make me cringe.

You are wrong though. the fact that this is a newbie game, is exactly why you can quite safely assume that not knowing the rules does not mean shit. That is what a newbie is. Your assumption is based, that everyone in the game has decent common sense, which is not something you can take for granted in a newbie game. The first hours of a newbie game, you have no idea how good/bad/logical the people are.
And I still find it funny, that you say "if you get over your "omg that guy sucks so bad, lets kill him" reflexes, considering you said this in avogadro's mini mafia.

Show nested quote +
On October 12 2014 08:58 DarthPunk wrote:
GlowingBear, What if I said that I would 100% lynch a shit posting townie day one even if I knew he was town.



Sigh. I would explain that but it is an ongoing game. An experienced player would understand what I meant by that if they read the context.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 15 2014 09:05 GMT
#1115
So Basically what you all are saying is.

I'm da bess
ModeratorINFLATE YOUR POST COUNT; PLAY TL MAFIA
abuse
Profile Joined April 2011
Latvia1944 Posts
October 15 2014 09:05 GMT
#1116
On October 15 2014 17:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Because you know me so well and have played so often with me. Wait.. No you haven't. You are coming from a place of ignorance. But you are being hilarious so feel free to continue babe. I have more gif's to post :D


Wrong assumption. Again. I have looked at quite enough of games/QT's of you being in them.
see, if you weren't so arrogant you would have actually considered that option.
I don't believe you.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 15 2014 09:06 GMT
#1117
Anyway i'm done with you Abuse, You should go play some games on OMGUS. probably more your level.

"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 15 2014 09:06 GMT
#1118
On October 15 2014 18:01 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 15 2014 17:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 15 2014 17:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DarthPunk what game are YOU reading?
This is what abuse said about Rad from the time he was pushing loaf!!!!!
His first posts, questioning why superbia and fecal both called loaf town were good, and follows with good questions towards loaf.

This is the only important thing regarding this connection read you are making. What happened a day after doesn't matter shit.
That is what i think abuse had as a read on Rad at the time he pushed loaf and that's what i am talking about.

You have to take a look what actually happened during that time and not what someone wrote 36hours after that.
Do you disagree the thoughts from abuse i quoted is a townread?


From the SAME fucking post rayn:

So, current read on Rad: Somewhere between null and scum.


So no I don;t think he is town reading fucking rad. Which is why I said he was wishy washy. Honestly. What the fuck?

dude can you understand that post happened A DAY after the initial connection???
let me spell it out to you:
Oct 7th: Rad makes the scummy post (1)
Oct 7th: abuse calls loaf out
Oct 7th: abuse pushes loaf
Oct 8th: abuse calls Rad "null/scum". Still he calls the observations Rad made a day before good -> townie!!!

Like wtf? There is no way abuse did read Rad scum at the time he pushed loaf. Read the whole post and put the things onto a timeline. abuse did NOT scumread Rad at the time he pushed loafery!

am i correct abuse?


Nah i'm not looking at time stamps. But what you are saying is heavily inferred. Whatever. You should be able to understand my thought process which is the point. (even if I am wrong about the timing)

I understand your thought process but it doesn't make sense because it's based on wrong assumptions on people's reads on each other at the time stuff actually happened.

That's what i am saying. Generally speaking, you are right. If it just happened like you said. But it didn't.
table for two on a tv tray
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 15 2014 09:06 GMT
#1119
On October 15 2014 18:05 abuse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 17:58 DarthPunk wrote:
Because you know me so well and have played so often with me. Wait.. No you haven't. You are coming from a place of ignorance. But you are being hilarious so feel free to continue babe. I have more gif's to post :D


Wrong assumption. Again. I have looked at quite enough of games/QT's of you being in them.
see, if you weren't so arrogant you would have actually considered that option.


Which games? I already asked you this by the way.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
October 15 2014 09:07 GMT
#1120
On October 15 2014 18:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 15 2014 18:01 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 15 2014 17:58 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 15 2014 17:48 DarthPunk wrote:
On October 15 2014 17:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
DarthPunk what game are YOU reading?
This is what abuse said about Rad from the time he was pushing loaf!!!!!
His first posts, questioning why superbia and fecal both called loaf town were good, and follows with good questions towards loaf.

This is the only important thing regarding this connection read you are making. What happened a day after doesn't matter shit.
That is what i think abuse had as a read on Rad at the time he pushed loaf and that's what i am talking about.

You have to take a look what actually happened during that time and not what someone wrote 36hours after that.
Do you disagree the thoughts from abuse i quoted is a townread?


From the SAME fucking post rayn:

So, current read on Rad: Somewhere between null and scum.


So no I don;t think he is town reading fucking rad. Which is why I said he was wishy washy. Honestly. What the fuck?

dude can you understand that post happened A DAY after the initial connection???
let me spell it out to you:
Oct 7th: Rad makes the scummy post (1)
Oct 7th: abuse calls loaf out
Oct 7th: abuse pushes loaf
Oct 8th: abuse calls Rad "null/scum". Still he calls the observations Rad made a day before good -> townie!!!

Like wtf? There is no way abuse did read Rad scum at the time he pushed loaf. Read the whole post and put the things onto a timeline. abuse did NOT scumread Rad at the time he pushed loafery!

am i correct abuse?


Nah i'm not looking at time stamps. But what you are saying is heavily inferred. Whatever. You should be able to understand my thought process which is the point. (even if I am wrong about the timing)

I understand your thought process but it doesn't make sense because it's based on wrong assumptions on people's reads on each other at the time stuff actually happened.

That's what i am saying. Generally speaking, you are right. If it just happened like you said. But it didn't.


Which is probably why I got it wrong? Right?
:D
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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