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On October 15 2014 08:26 Fecalfeast wrote:
I like to think I could talk my way out of an early scumread from you superbia but as Rad said, you were 2scary4us you were dying no matter how many shots it took
At least I was killed out of respect! I'm okay with that. 
Also, shout out to my coach, Promethelax, who gave me some excellent tips! (also for having me talk myself out of lynching FF d1 ). QT if anyone's interested: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/FtvMPxNpp5QG
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Couple interesting things I noticed:
"Don't be too sure about surviving the night. Your role will be nullified if scum have knowledge of your role."
That's some good advice ^^
"Already asked, I don't get notified"
Interesting here - I thought for sure you had been notified after n1. My bad for assuming as this affected my decisions.
Thanks for the link. Getting more insight is fun 
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Good job guys.
If you guys have questions and stuff for me, just ask. I'm around.
lol I have nothing more to say.
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On October 15 2014 07:12 Fecalfeast wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 07:09 abuse wrote:You two really did play well. Read the entire scum QT. We were disgustingly unlucky to have dusts and loaf in the game though  Loaf was literally the key player at the end of the game, and he came, said complete bs, and then bailed. Ugh. Most of my thoughts were that rad has to be tracker if it's not loaf, and if it is loaf, then fk it, I don't even feel bad for lynching him and losing the entire game, because of how he played. Oh wells. Probably my last game of mafia. Don't think this is for me :3 I lost my first 3 games as town and, even though I embellished the sentiment in this game, I was ready to quit mafia too. Its really fun ater you really get a feel for how people play. Play another newbie game if you can and see what it's like playing a newbie game with a little more experience than the newcomers. I would hate to see someone quit mafia because of donkeys
I do understand the game, and I'd like to believe that I did have a little more experience than the people in this game. That's just it.
I need to know that the other players know what they are doing, otherwise all my reads go to trash, and I am too arrogant to deal with plays like loaf did. My brain refuses to comprehend them.
The non-newbie games are too big on the other end, everyone plays off meta, and there are way way way too many pages for me to be able to keep up, considering I have work and my memory sucks, so I can't remember posts very well.
On October 15 2014 07:45 Rad wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 07:09 abuse wrote:You two really did play well. Read the entire scum QT. We were disgustingly unlucky to have dusts and loaf in the game though Loaf was literally the key player at the end of the game, and he came, said complete bs, and then bailed. Ugh. Most of my thoughts were that rad has to be tracker if it's not loaf, and if it is loaf, then fk it, I don't even feel bad for lynching him and losing the entire game, because of how he played. Oh wells. Probably my last game of mafia. Don't think this is for me :3 Don't give up! You were a top town read for most people and loaf definitely made things easier for us. My only advice would be to step back and rethink things more often. You had fecal pegged as town at the end and that was that, and you let me get away with just arguing with you all of d3. I think from your position suggesting we put fecal up for lynch is smarter than just calling me bad town.
Loaf singlehandedly destroyed the game, not made it just easier for you, lol.
I had breshke pegged as town, not fecal. I wanted fecal to be town, but I did understand that he most likely wasnt. If loaf had flipped scum, and breshke had died in the night, I would've voted for FF instantly.
You were in a perfect spot, because loaf refused to claim tracker, which only left you as the other candidate. Due to pure PoE, you were safe, there was no basis on me calling you anything other than town, and i hated that, because I really did think you were scum. And suggesting we put up fecal for lynch would not have been the better play in this case, because at that point you were pretty much confirmed town, and all you had to do, was what you did - say "I will not move my vote from abuse". Since we needed to be united in the lynch, just one town refusing to do so resulted in us losing..
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Either way, I focus on the wrong things in game, and I am utterly clueless about things that ACTUALLY find mafia, not what I think is from mafia. Things I see as scummy might not neccessarily be scummy, which is a huuuge flaw in my play, and I just don't see the things I am supposed to see if I am to be a good player. I feel like I do, but I don't. Hence why it would be way too much effort and time to put into changing the way I think, so I think I'm better off going under.
Good luck to you guys though~
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Oh and last P.S. - I still think DarthPunk is not nearly as good as he seems to think he is.And he is a hypocrite. The obs qt just solidified that for me. + the "I cannot resonate with abuse at all" made me seriously laugh out loud, when barakos pointed out that what I like to do is lynch donkeys, which is precisely what DarthPunk does - does not care about lynching anyone who is stupid. Honestly Barakos is a much better player.
<3 DP, don't hate me pls.
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Thanks to my cohosts, the coaches and the players!
I think this game overall ran pretty smoothly (despite dusts getting modkilled; he had a good reason why he could not keep playing though), and I'm sorry about the lack of flavor in the day/night posts, this took long enough to start that my workload in day job had increased so much I just did not have the energy anymore.
I'll post some notes about the game later when I have time to clean them up to understandable form.
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You did fine abuse. I thought it was easy to read you town and your pushes and reads provided me with a lot of information. Yeah, we didn't lynch mafia, but hey, it happens. Game was decently hard. We'll get 'em next time. Also don't be too hard on loaf (and loaf don't be too hard on yourself), it's a newbie game for a reason.
Loaf, next time, you probably want to out your role in LYLO if you're not confirmed town (and especially if you're being read scummy). The main priority in LYLO is to gather up all the town (3 players, in this case) and have them all vote on the same mafia. If town is divided at EoD, the game is lost, because mafia can just vote-switch and hop on the town wagon at the last minute.
Also as a side-note, I had no idea the mafia would send a single person to do the lynch (for tracker shenanigans). I shouldn't have told tracker who to track there.
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Thanks LoneMeow for hosting! :D
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On October 15 2014 15:04 abuse wrote:
Either way, I focus on the wrong things in game, and I am utterly clueless about things that ACTUALLY find mafia, not what I think is from mafia. Things I see as scummy might not neccessarily be scummy, which is a huuuge flaw in my play, and I just don't see the things I am supposed to see if I am to be a good player. I feel like I do, but I don't. Hence why it would be way too much effort and time to put into changing the way I think, so I think I'm better off going under.
Good luck to you guys though~
A tip on the bolded. This is what we discussed with Zen after he died in our QT.
If i was in the game i would lynch FecalFeast without any hesitation.
On October 09 2014 05:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
Zen man:scum, everyone has said it already, if someone wants a post specifically from me about zen i can do that. My vote stays put as of now. It is starting to worry me that nobody is vehemently against the wagon, though.
Dusts: *tumbleweed*
Rad:town, actively looking for more scum even while there's a wagon.
Super:null/town, the big instigator of the wagon. No counter wagons and a rock solid argument. Why null/town and not town? Weird gut feelings that i can't explain.
Abuse:null, while he pushed loafery and looked town because of it, it took him quite some time to unvote and consider the current wagon. Elvis!'s actions don't help him either.
Elvis:scum/null, i hope he posts more, currently he has no vote and was only voting on loaf because he had pressure
Breshke: scum, pretty similar story to zen-man, i think this is a really good person to look at after the flip, or even right now. I would but i have already screwed this post up many times. Thanks phone.
Everyone else: null or i don't remember your posts
I read the last couple of pages and this is probably a scum post.
Note where he reads two people as null/null-mafia because of their votes on loaf? But then, he does not remember a single thing loaf has posted?!?!? It just doesn't make any sense. You can't possibly scumread people for voting for someone you don't even remember they have posted. To me it seems impossible and that he is just making shit up. Hell he even remembers a dude who hasn't posted anything at all...
Is loaf mafia with him? Maybe not, it would be too easy and FecalFeast has actually played mafia before.
Super is almost definitely town unless he plays a really good scumgame because mafia does not push lynches in general in newbie games.
In case Fecal is mafia it makes Elvis & Abuse town by his post.
Fecal scumreads Breskhe so he is town.
Another scum is probably Rad or dusks. (or loaf in case FF was just terrible).
This is all based on one post that caught my eye.
For end game credits mafia is FF and Rad.
edit: fixed link -> quote
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I really was just making shit up, for the record.
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On October 15 2014 16:22 Fecalfeast wrote:
I really was just making shit up, for the record.
yes i noticed.
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On October 15 2014 15:06 abuse wrote:
Oh and last P.S. - I still think DarthPunk is not nearly as good as he seems to think he is.And he is a hypocrite. The obs qt just solidified that for me. + the "I cannot resonate with abuse at all" made me seriously laugh out loud, when barakos pointed out that what I like to do is lynch donkeys, which is precisely what DarthPunk does - does not care about lynching anyone who is stupid. Honestly Barakos is a much better player.
<3 DP, don't hate me pls.
Yeah I only called rad and fecal scum on my first read through of day one.
Too bad you look so awful that I had you as mafia over fecal who was my third choice.
Sorry for being horrible. LMAO.
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oh and correctly reading Loaf as town at the start was the key to solving this game IMO.
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I think abuse's play on D1 was fine.
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On October 15 2014 16:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think abuse's play on D1 was fine.
I disagree.
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Can you actually offer some advice then? "I cannot resonate with abuse" is not really helpful and as you are not in the game yourself you can't even affect to what people talk about by leading them to talk about right/important things.
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On October 15 2014 16:46 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 16:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think abuse's play on D1 was fine. I disagree.
Hence why you're a hypocrite <3.
I still think lynching loaf on D1 would have been the best option, because him being alive at the end totally ruined everything. At least for me.
Also as I recall, Barakos was the one who did the actual hunting in obs qt.
Anyways, I don't really care, I just think you're batcrap arrogant, and from all the games I've seen/read up on you, i was not impressed the least, not nearly as I was with some other players here.
Cheers bro~
Just to be clear - I think I'm not good. I just don't think you are good either.
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On October 15 2014 16:55 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 16:46 DarthPunk wrote:On October 15 2014 16:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think abuse's play on D1 was fine. I disagree. Hence why you're a hypocrite <3. I still think lynching loaf on D1 would have been the best option, because him being alive at the end totally ruined everything. At least for me. Also as I recall, Barakos was the one who did the actual hunting in obs qt. Anyways, I don't really care, I just think you're batcrap arrogant, and from all the games I've seen/read up on you, i was not impressed the least, unlike some other players here. Cheers bro~
That's not really how the game works. While i understand your point all of you townies missed the most obvious scumpost on D1. I think the townies were too tunneled into one of Zen/Breskhe being mafia on D1 and when Breskhe picked up his posting you all completely forgot what actually happened at the EOD1. When something changes (lynch, nightkills, someone being scummy starts to towntell) you must go back and see where you went wrong. Look at the whole game with "new eyes", not only the game after the said event.
That's where i think the town went wrong.
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On October 15 2014 16:55 abuse wrote:Show nested quote +On October 15 2014 16:46 DarthPunk wrote:On October 15 2014 16:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think abuse's play on D1 was fine. I disagree. Hence why you're a hypocrite <3. I still think lynching loaf on D1 would have been the best option, because him being alive at the end totally ruined everything. At least for me. Also as I recall, Barakos was the one who did the actual hunting in obs qt.Anyways, I don't really care, I just think you're batcrap arrogant, and from all the games I've seen/read up on you, i was not impressed the least, not nearly as I was with some other players here. Cheers bro~ Just to be clear - I think I'm not good. I just don't think you are good either.
on the bolded : Re-read and confirmed.
Barakos was the one who called FF scum for example, you just agreed after asking why he thinks so. Then you said rad and me were scum, and were only right on rad,while I was your prime suspect really. If you were in the game you would have mislynched. While Barakos said I wasn't scum. Barakos read things much much much better than you did.
Hence why I'm saying you are not as good as you think you are.
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