how can you even imagine that me and loaf can possibly be a scumteam, considering i have put him down so hard this entire game? like literally from my first post?

also,"As you can see breshke, based on these scenarios and my own interpretations of them, loaf is the least likely logical candidate for scum, and abuse is the most."
i dont know if you read your own scenarios, but even in your scenarios, the 2nd most likely scenario for you is loaf being scum.

Also, about your last paragraph, why are you just ignoring everything breshke himself has been saying? He has explained his reasons for thinking why I am town.

abuse

Latvia1945 Posts

October 14 2014 19:49 GMT

#962

honestly, I cannot believe that what you are saying during this day makes any sense at all if you are town.
If you are not town, you cannot be tracker. If you are not tracker, then the real tracker here fucked up so bad it is not even funny.
What a game..

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

October 14 2014 19:50 GMT

#963

Abuse what were you planning to get out of the tacker hypos?

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 14 2014 19:50 GMT

#964

Okay so Loaf/Rad scumteam?

So many options...

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

October 14 2014 19:52 GMT

#965

On October 15 2014 04:50 Fecalfeast wrote:
Okay so Loaf/Rad scumteam?

So many options...

That is the one exact team it is impossible to be.

Fecalfeast

Canada11355 Posts

October 14 2014 19:54 GMT

#966

Oh because of tracker claim stuff? I haven't been paying attention to that really. If there's no red track, there's no tracker right now. Let mafia have one disadvantage, please?

If it's truly impossible by some voodoo math magic, there's going to be some crazy stuff going on in the next hour...

abuse

Latvia1945 Posts

October 14 2014 19:55 GMT

#967

On October 15 2014 04:29 Rad wrote:
If you consider me and abuse town, then you consider FF/loaf scumteam. Why would FF bus his partner ASAP on d3? Is this a smart scum play in your book? Does FF get confirmed status level townie points if loaf flips scum in this scenario, making it worth the strange bus? The only other potential outcome there is the loaf wagon catches on, he flips town and scum wins.

But me + loaf makes sense, even though I pushed loaf like no tomorrow (because if you keep this shit up, there really wont be no tomorrow). Why do you not see that as "bussing" but as a 2nd most likely scum team scenario ?

abuse

Latvia1945 Posts

October 14 2014 19:57 GMT

#968

On October 15 2014 04:50 Breshke wrote:
Abuse what were you planning to get out of the tacker hypos?

I said what I wanted from the hypos.

On October 14 2014 17:26 abuse wrote:

Show nested quote +

I was sure that the tracker was between Rad and Breshke.
I was hoping Rad would have more of a brain and actually post a hypo list that would make any sense, instead of taking it stupidly. If he did, I would've taken his list for granted as the real tracker's list, but he didn't take the chance, and did a stupid fake list with the same person during both nights. I can't even emphasize how stupid and anti-town that was of him.

The tracker is now definitely not me, not breshke and not you. So we have that going for us, which is nice.
Basically it means Rad is tracker.

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

October 14 2014 19:58 GMT

#969

Why if you are town are you role hunting not scum hunting
.

Rad

United States935 Posts

October 14 2014 19:59 GMT

#970

@abuse

I get that Breshke thinks you're town based on your play. I'm asking for the scenarios in which it makes most sense that you're town based on how things have played out. For example, loaf/fecal scumteam requires a retarded play. Pushing your scum partner the whole game is not impossible to do as scum and is actually the ideal thing to do.

Loaf is in 1 scenario, breshke's in 2, fecal's in 2, you're in 3. Get it?

abuse

Latvia1945 Posts

October 14 2014 20:00 GMT

#971

Are you kidding me?
I already said who I think scum is.
Now we have 5 people left, if you find the PR, you get a confirmed townie. Add yourself as town and you have 2 mafia between 3 people.
Also - wtf. Why are you asking this now

abuse

Latvia1945 Posts

October 14 2014 20:01 GMT

#972

On October 15 2014 04:59 Rad wrote:
@abuse

I get that Breshke thinks you're town based on your play. I'm asking for the scenarios in which it makes most sense that you're town based on how things have played out. For example, loaf/fecal scumteam requires a retarded play. Pushing your scum partner the whole game is not impossible to do as scum and is actually the ideal thing to do.

it is actually an incredibly stupid play.

Also - Rad, would you like to claim PR now? it is about time.

abuse

Latvia1945 Posts

October 14 2014 20:02 GMT

#973

also, What I did to loaf was not "pushing".

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

October 14 2014 20:03 GMT

#974

On October 15 2014 04:59 Rad wrote:
@abuse

I get that Breshke thinks you're town based on your play. I'm asking for the scenarios in which it makes most sense that you're town based on how things have played out. For example, loaf/fecal scumteam requires a retarded play. Pushing your scum partner the whole game is not impossible to do as scum and is actually the ideal thing to do.

Loaf is in 1 scenario, breshke's in 2, fecal's in 2, you're in 3. Get it?

But not based on how many scenarios but based on play who do you think scum is? I think ff could easily bus loaf at the start of the day as he isn't the most useful scum partner. Also it seems kind of likely when you look at how loaf reacted to his push, the fact that he hardly acknowledged it even saying he was town because he was looking at it "objectivly", even though ff said he was riding the vote to the grave.

Rad

United States935 Posts

October 14 2014 20:23 GMT

#975

On October 15 2014 05:03 Breshke wrote:

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Abuse. Check my thoughts on him:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/466626-newbie-mini-mafia-lix?page=44#876
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/466626-newbie-mini-mafia-lix?page=45#892
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/466626-newbie-mini-mafia-lix?page=46#908

About a FF/loaf scum team... early bus from FF because loaf hasn't been useful, loaf suddenly becomes more active... they could have just discussed loaf becoming more active in their QT since he's obviously willing to be more active?? It just doesn't make sense.

On October 15 2014 05:01 abuse wrote:

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it is actually an incredibly stupid play.

Also - Rad, would you like to claim PR now? it is about time.

Tracker shouldn't claim here without a red hit. Anyone can claim tracker at this point and anyone can counter-claim. If scum is lynched here and tracker remains unknown, town has a much better chance to win.

Confirming someone as town to YOU only matters to YOU, and I think YOU are scum. A tracker claim at this point only tells scum who they are, town can't trust it right now. A scum lynch today does not guarantee a town win.

abuse

Latvia1945 Posts

October 14 2014 20:27 GMT

#976

Yeah, but i'm just asking it for fun right now honestly, because we'd at least get a claim and counterclaim up. and get 2 people who are surely of the opposite alignment.

By the way, Rad, tell me something. Who do you think is scummier right now. Me or FF?

Breshke

Australia3749 Posts

October 14 2014 20:30 GMT

#977

##Vote:Abuse

I have to vote with my biggest town read, town can't be split urgh my gut is telling me this is wrong but im horrible so who knows. Also where is loaf?

abuse

Latvia1945 Posts

October 14 2014 20:30 GMT

#978

nevermind.
I just noticed that you said that a loaf+FF team is not possible in your mind.

I am done. I am town. This game is over, scum wins.

Even if loaf dies today and flips scum, we still lose because Rad.